Billboard Hot 100: 07/24/2021

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Surprised no one mentioned this song when talking about Stay because this is much closer (and more recent) to it than Blinding Lights

[Limited Edition]

So we're just comparing every single pop song that uses synths to Blinding Lights? Neither Ghost nor Stay sound like Blinding Lights to me. Well, at least Stay has a drum pattern quite similar to Blinding Lights. Ghost doesn't even have that.

[jaffery]

The Weeknd didn’t even suits and he didn’t invent copying 80s music

[mylo]

I suppose the Blinding Lights comparisons are because of how massive it was last year and ( for better or worse ) this year. It joined songs last year (like DSN) that were opposed to the trap sound of prior years and that different sound may now have been earmarked by artists as a sound that is popular now. The Weeknd didn't invent it but he may have inspired some kind of trend.

People are predicting/hoping for a pop-punk revival inspired by the success of good 4 u and that may well happen as artists experiment with what the sound of the 20s will be. If the sound of the early 20s is pop-punk or synthpop then i guarantee people will look back and say that BL or G4U were the "trendsetters" per say.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - 07/09/21

1(debut) The Kid LAROI - Stay 2,345,292
2(-1) Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u 1,825,773 (+39,108)
3(debut) Post Malone - Motley Crew 1,695,072
4(-2) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More 1,265,608 (+60,808)
5(debut) Billie Eilish - NDA 1,167,545
6(debut) BTS - Permission to Dance 1,033,060
7(-3) Måneskin - Beggin' 1,010,708 (+50,719)
8(-5) Olivia Rodrigo - deja vu 991,656 (+28)
9(-3) Doja Cat - Ain't Shit 979,487 (+34,656)
10(-3) Dua Lipa - Levitating 970,374 (+54,668)

Others:
11(-6) Olivia Rodrigo - traitor 936,405 (-18,177)
12(-3) Polo G - RAPSTAR 929,349 (+20,468)
13(-5) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 928,402 (+16,143)
14(-4) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 920,231 (+72,175)
15(-2) Megan Thee Stallion - Thot Shit 814,806 (+55,458)
16(+14) BTS - Butter 801,117 (+276,574)
17(-6) Doja Cat, The Weeknd - You Right 771,447 (-71,599)
18(-4) Drake - Wants and Needs 757,231 (+2,264)
19(-4) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 751,431 (+32,436)
20(-8) Olivia Rodrigo - favorite crime 747,256 (-24,613)
21(-5) Bad Bunny - Yonaguni 743,639 (+41,678)
22(+3) Justin Bieber - Peaches 695,525 (+53,446)
23(debut) Kane Brown, blackbear - Memory 668,244
24(-6) Olivia Rodrigo - happier 665,835 (-18,213)
25(-8) Tyler The Creator, YoungBoy Never Broke Again, Ty Dolla $ign - WUSYANAME 661,416 (-26,906)
26(debut) Bas - The Jackie 652,266
27(debut) BIA - WHOLE LOTTA MONEY Remix 636,836
29(-8) Olivia Rodrigo - brutal 618,452 (-6,837)
30(-8) Rauw Alejandro - Todo De Ti 588,924 (-5,059)
31(-6) Masked Wolf - Astronaut In The Ocean 582,895 (+25,771)
32(-8) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Leave the Door Open 579,688 (+13,526)
33(-10) Olivia Rodrigo - jealousy, jealousy 576,633 (-10,192)
34(-8) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears Remix 574,063 (+17,482)
35(-8) WILLOW - t r a n s p a r e n t s o u l 560,169 (+13,735)
36(-5) DaBaby - Red Light Green Light 548,926 (+26,341)
37(-8) Doja Cat - Need to Know 526,889 (-1,802)
38(-10) DaBaby - Ball If I Want To 502,748 (-26,221)
39(-7) DJ Khaled - EVERY CHANCE I GET 496,366 (-24,996)
40(debut) Mora, Bad Bunny, Sech - Volando Remix 489,529
41(-8) Giveon - Heartbreak Anniversary 485,781 (-1,420)
42(-8) Trippie Redd - Miss the Rage 480,617 (+15,588)
44(-9) Cochise, $NOT - Tell Em 459,156 (-4,644)
45(-7) Maroon 5 - Beautiful Mistakes 448,888 (+10,478)
46(-4) Walker Hayes - Fancy Like 447,942 (+41,439)
47(-7) Saweetie - Best Friend 439,486 (+21,245)
48(-11) Olivia Rodrigo - enough for you 435,286 (-13,699)
49(-10) Roddy Ricch - Late At Night 434,148 (+11,667)
51(-3) Bad Bunny - De Museo 425,138 (+36,603)
52(-7) Surf Curse - Freaks 418,785 (+22,329)
53(-10) Marshmello - Leave Before You Love Me 417,889 (+16,421)
54(debut) Vince Staples - ARE YOU WITH THAT? 416,590
55(+2) Nio Garcia, J Balvin, Bad Bunny - AM Remix 405,232 (+40,534)
56(-10) Måneskin - I WANNA BE YOUR SLAVE 398,844 (+10,027)
58(-11) Kali Uchis - telepatía 393,334 (+4,670)
59(+18) Polo G - GANG GANG 386,249 (+62,637)
61(-5) Bo Burnham - All Eyes On Me 380,952 (+16,066)
66(-15) Bella Poarch - Build a Bitch 372,620 (-4,347)
68(-24) Nelly, Florida Georgia Line - Lil Bit 368,463 (-28,008)
71(-21) Tyler the Creator - JUGGERNAUT 358,949 (-21,097)
74(-14) J. Cole - m y . l i f e 355,217 (-3,049)
76(+6) The Kid LAROI - WITHOUT YOU 350,393 (+37,106)
77(-14) Bo Burnham - Welcome to the Internet 347,730 (+611)
78(=) J Balvin, Maria Becerra - Qué Más Pues? 339,989 (+18,083)
79(-8) Luke Combs - Forever After All 338,640 (+8,426)
80(-14) J. Cole - p r i d e . i s . t h e . d e v i l 337,667 (+2,214)
81(-5) Interney Money - His & Hers 336,290 (+10,751)
82(debut) Logic - Get Up 335,934
85(-6) MoneyBagg Yo - Wockesha 330,316 (+10,977)
88(-21) Doja Cat - I Don't Do Drugs 324,104 (-10,357)
86(-6) Lil Baby, Lil Durk - Hats Off 326,825 (+9,680)
92(-18) Doja Cat - Get Into It (Yuh) 314,038 (-14,223)
93(-4) Sleepy Hallow - 2055 311,527 (+16,104)
98(-8) Bo Burnham - Bezos I 299,347 (+4,949)
99(+2) Billie Eilish - Lost Cause 298,943 (+16,860)

106(-25) Brent Faiyaz - Wasting Time 287,889 (-26,563)
108(-39) Tyler the Creator - LEMONHEAD 286,394 (-46,547)
109(-9) Polo G - No Return 284,750 (+2,639)
111(-8) Migos - Having Our Way 284,255 (+2,676)
113(-8) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 281,652 (+3,444)
114(-29) Tyler the Creator - LUMBERJACK 281,423 (-19,294)
119(-26) Tyler the Creator - SWEET / I THOUGHT YOU WANTED TO DANCE 275,166 (-15,545)
120(+20) Chris Young, Kane Brown - Famous Friends 275,139 (+35,602)
121(-8) Madison Beer - Reckless 272,408 (+10,053)
123(-12) Tai Verdes - A-O-K 270,230 (+3,853)
127(re-entry) Ryan Hurd - Chasing After You 264,350
129(-10) Migos - Straightenin 261,456 (+3,683)
131(re-entry) Vince Staples - LAW OF AVERAGES 259,582
136(-19) PinkPantheress - Pain 254,407 (-4,358)
138(-18) Sarah Cothran - As the World Caves In 253,809 (-3,938)
139(+4) Big Red Machine - Renegade 251,748 (+18,428)
141(-19) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug, Gunna - Ski 250,933 (-5,272)
143(debut) Maluma - Sobrio 249,769
149(-17) Trinidad Cardona - Dinero 246,967 (+1,532)
150(-11) Dan + Shay - Glad You Exist 246,950 (+7,272)
152(+46) Migos - Modern Day 243,702 (+43,210)
154(+4) Blueface, Og Bobby Billions - Outside (Better Days) 242,109 (+19,044)
158(-24) Bo Burnham - Look Who's Inside Again 239,072 (-4,164)
159(re-entry) G Herbo, Polo G, Lil Tja - Cry No More 237,921
160(-18) $ilkMoney - My Potna Dem 237,686 (+69)
161(re-entry) Riton, Nightcrawlers - Friday 237,425
163(+22) Elle King, Miranda Lambert - Drunk (And I Don't Wanna Go Home) 236,770 (+30,449)
166(-16) Galantis - Heartbreak Anthem 233,334 (+5,175)
172(debut) Vince Staples - SUNDOWN TOWN 227,708
184(-17) Imagine Dragons - Wrecked 219,606 (+2,692)
198(-61) BIA - WHOLE LOTTA MONEY 211,407 (-31,389)

Total Streams for Save Your Tears: 855,715
Total Streams for WHOLE LOTTA MONEY: 848,243

Biggest Gains (50K+): GANG GANG, Dynamite, Peaches, Butter, Thot Shit, Bad Habits, Levitating, Beggin', Kiss Me More

[fridayteenage]

personally i prefer bts to bieber; so if the choice is between those, wouldn't mind mr yummy yummy yummy being blocked again.

[alexandria2001]

Only beat in Stay sounds like the beat from Blinding Lights, being in the same bpm with the same pitch too. The synths remind me of a late 00s club song or two, but I'm ot sure which ones. I agree the synths aren't at all similar to the synths in Blinding Lights though, as the synths in that song are 80s synths or are at least a lot more reminiscent of the 80s. But yeah, I agree most of Stay isn't reminiscent of Blinding Lights, since the synths and bass line are very different. The beat is similar enough though bpm and pitch to make comparisons to the beat, but that beat is only one part of the song, so it doesn't matter too much.

[jaffery]

Jul 10, 2021 9:59:04 GMT -5 alexandria2001 said:

Only beat in Stay sounds like the beat from Blinding Lights, being in the same bpm with the same pitch too. The synths remind me of a late 00s club song or two, but I'm ot sure which ones. I agree the synths aren't at all similar to the synths in Blinding Lights though, as the synths in that song are 80s synths or are at least a lot more reminiscent of the 80s. But yeah, I agree most of Stay isn't reminiscent of Blinding Lights, since the synths and bass line are very different. The beat is similar enough though bpm and pitch to make comparisons to the beat, but that beat is only one part of the song, so it doesn't matter too much.

The song is driven by its melody not the beat though.

[Limited Edition]

Obama has decent taste. AITO though lmao

[lurker2]

"My fellow Americans, I want to be perfectly clear: what you know about rolling down in the deep?"

[goldentakes]

Jul 10, 2021 9:13:11 GMT -5 mylo said:

I suppose the Blinding Lights comparisons are because of how massive it was last year and ( for better or worse ) this year. It joined songs last year (like DSN) that were opposed to the trap sound of prior years and that different sound may now have been earmarked by artists as a sound that is popular now. The Weeknd didn't invent it but he may have inspired some kind of trend.

People are predicting/hoping for a pop-punk revival inspired by the success of good 4 u and that may well happen as artists experiment with what the sound of the 20s will be. If the sound of the early 20s is pop-punk or synthpop then i guarantee people will look back and say that BL or G4U were the "trendsetters" per say.

Good 4 U is obviously massive (and a solid song), but I think MGK and Travis Barker are, and will be regarded as the main trendsetters for the Pop-Punk revival we're seeing now. A lot of emo trap was starting to delve into that realm, but MGK was the first real mainstreamer to do the full genre pivot. Plus considering how well Tickets to My Downfall performed, I think that's become a pretty well-established narrative at this point.

[kcdawg13]

Jul 10, 2021 12:44:14 GMT -5 goldentakes said:

Jul 10, 2021 9:13:11 GMT -5 mylo said:

I suppose the Blinding Lights comparisons are because of how massive it was last year and ( for better or worse ) this year. It joined songs last year (like DSN) that were opposed to the trap sound of prior years and that different sound may now have been earmarked by artists as a sound that is popular now. The Weeknd didn't invent it but he may have inspired some kind of trend.

People are predicting/hoping for a pop-punk revival inspired by the success of good 4 u and that may well happen as artists experiment with what the sound of the 20s will be. If the sound of the early 20s is pop-punk or synthpop then i guarantee people will look back and say that BL or G4U were the "trendsetters" per say.

Good 4 U is obviously massive (and a solid song), but I think MGK and Travis Barker are, and will be regarded as the main trendsetters for the Pop-Punk revival we're seeing now. A lot of emo trap was starting to delve into that realm, but MGK was the first real mainstreamer to do the full genre pivot. Plus considering how well Tickets to My Downfall performed, I think that's become a pretty well-established narrative at this point.

I mean, I would argue that artists like Lil Peep and Juice WRLD pushed this genre back into the mainstream years ago (MGK's album isn't that different from "Lucid Dreams"), but yes, I guess "my ex's best friend" was the first real pop punk hit coming back that unleashed the beast.

[jenglisbe]

Jul 10, 2021 5:24:20 GMT -5 jeiboy said:

Jul 9, 2021 23:37:15 GMT -5 Push The Button said:

Are they mass buying two separate singles this week? That’s nuts.

They are mass buying until September at least

to secure the "Song of the Summer" 2021 Billboard title.

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These stans have ruined chart watching for me.

[goldentakes]

Jul 10, 2021 17:34:58 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

Jul 10, 2021 12:44:14 GMT -5 goldentakes said:

Good 4 U is obviously massive (and a solid song), but I think MGK and Travis Barker are, and will be regarded as the main trendsetters for the Pop-Punk revival we're seeing now. A lot of emo trap was starting to delve into that realm, but MGK was the first real mainstreamer to do the full genre pivot. Plus considering how well Tickets to My Downfall performed, I think that's become a pretty well-established narrative at this point.

I mean, I would argue that artists like Lil Peep and Juice WRLD pushed this genre back into the mainstream years ago (MGK's album isn't that different from "Lucid Dreams"), but yes, I guess "my ex's best friend" was the first real pop punk hit coming back that unleashed the beast.

Lucid Dreams was definitely an influential song, but in no way would i describe it as pop-punk. Yeah Juice definitely took some inspiration from that era, but his music was still solidly in the rap lane. Imo, the difference is that Tickets to My downfall was almost completely driven on rock elements from the early 2000's, listen to the guitar riff and melodies on a song like Bloody Valentine and tell me that it is not far more pop-punk based than anything from Goodbye and Good Riddance.

[rainygirl]

Jul 9, 2021 23:33:57 GMT -5 lurker2 said:

I might just be tired (and tired me once got convinced Bebe Rexha was good), but Stay might've grown on me a lot? Kind of a bop.

same for me and I’m not a Bieber fan LOL . But hey, a good song is a good song . It needed 20 more seconds though

[rainygirl]

Jul 10, 2021 7:43:33 GMT -5 whales10268 said:

Maybe we can get 3 top 10 debuts this week. Billie looks like a top 20 debut.

NDA is my favorite Billie song ever

[chartfreak]

There's 99 other songs......

[thegreatdivine]

I know all music is subjective but I question your taste if NDA is the best Billie Eilish song ever to you.

[andrebra]

Jul 10, 2021 22:19:11 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

I know all music is subjective but I question your taste if NDA is the best Billie Eilish song ever to you.

For real. I think it’s a highlight for the era, but I don’t think it even holds a candle to songs like bellyache or COPYCAT.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Another notable release: Luke Hemmings (frontman of 5SOS) released his debut single as a solo act

[shayonce]

US Apple Music Top 100 7/10 Saturday
1.(=) The Kid LAROI & Justin Bieber - Stay
2.(+1) Drake - Wants and Needs (feat. Lil Baby)
3.(-1) Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u
4.(=) Post Malone - Motley Crew
5.(+2) Megan Thee Stallion - Thot s**t
6. Moneybagg Yo - Wockesha
7.(+2) DJ Khaled - EVERY CHANCE I GET (feat. Lil Baby & Lil Durk)
8.(=) Polo G - RAPSTAR
9.(+1) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More (feat. SZA)
10.(-5) BIA & Nicki Minaj - WHOLE LOTTA MONEY (Remix)
11.(-5) Doja Cat - Ain't s**t

25.(-3) Bad Bunny - De Museo
30.(-1) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits
48.(-21) Billie Eilish - NDA
53.(-22) Mora, Bad Bunny & Sech - Volando (Remix)
65.(+1) Kane Brown x blackbear - Memory
67.(-14) Vince Staples - ARE YOU WITH THAT?
71.(-17) Bas & J. Cole - The Jackie (feat. Lil Tjay)
88.(-15) BTS - Permission to Dance

[iamsorare]

Post Malone fell two positions on apple music..if Spotify drop is going to be huge today then I don't think that he will debut in top 10...I see a top 5 debut for ''stay'' on hot 100,top 15 for Post Malone and top 40 for Billie Eilish

[jeiboy]

US YouTube:

1. BTS 4.8 million
5. Billie 1.5 million
6. Kid Laroi/JB 1.4 million
15. Post Malone 1.1 million

[phieaglesfan712]

Jul 10, 2021 22:11:51 GMT -5 chartfreak said:

There's 99 other songs......

Even that seems at least one too many, lol. Billboard needs to contract the charts to 50 or 75 songs. Most of the time, I hardly even know any of the songs on the bottom half of the Hot 100 anymore.

The primary reason why I watch the charts right now is because there is a song on the cusp of breaking 3 records: the Soundscan Era real points, Adult Contemporary weeks at #1, and the Hot 100 longevity records. If Blinding Lights wasn't charting right now, I honestly wouldn't be as interested in these charts.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Jul 11, 2021 7:18:44 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Jul 10, 2021 22:11:51 GMT -5 chartfreak said:

There's 99 other songs......

Even that seems at least one too many, lol. Billboard needs to contract the charts to 50 or 75 songs. Most of the time, I hardly even know any of the songs on the bottom half of the Hot 100 anymore.

The primary reason why I watch the charts right now is because there is a song on the cusp of breaking 3 records: the Soundscan Era real points, Adult Contemporary weeks at #1, and the Hot 100 longevity records. If Blinding Lights wasn't charting right now, I honestly wouldn't be as interested in these charts.

...it doesn't matter that you don't know any of the songs on the bottom half. BARELY ANYONE IN THE GENERAL PUBLIC KNOWS HALF OF WHAT'S ON THE CHARTS. Not even chart watchers who care about this memorize all 100 songs the are charting within a given week.

It's a f**king chart measuring streams, sales, and airplay amongst the general public. Even if it was whittled down to 50, I don't think that would change people not knowing what's charting. If you don't really care about that, that's not on Billboard to change to suit your tastes. Go make your own personal chart like other Pulse members

[jenglisbe]

Jul 11, 2021 7:28:47 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Jul 11, 2021 7:18:44 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Even that seems at least one too many, lol. Billboard needs to contract the charts to 50 or 75 songs. Most of the time, I hardly even know any of the songs on the bottom half of the Hot 100 anymore.

The primary reason why I watch the charts right now is because there is a song on the cusp of breaking 3 records: the Soundscan Era real points, Adult Contemporary weeks at #1, and the Hot 100 longevity records. If Blinding Lights wasn't charting right now, I honestly wouldn't be as interested in these charts.

...it doesn't matter that you don't know any of the songs on the bottom half. BARELY ANYONE IN THE GENERAL PUBLIC KNOWS HALF OF WHAT'S ON THE CHARTS.

It's a f**king chart measuring streams, sales, and airplay amongst the general public. Even if it was whittled down to 50, I don't think that would change people not knowing what's charting. If you don't really care about that, that's not on Billboard to change to suit your tastes. Go make your own personal chart like other Pulse members

Yeah I don't know why people can't seem to grasp that Billboard is an industry publication, and above all else the charts are for the industry to gauge popularity, see how their stuff is doing, etc. We as the public just happened to catch onto it and get interested, but it isn't for us. So many complaints and debates could be avoided if people kept that in mind.

[phieaglesfan712]

Jul 11, 2021 7:33:32 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Jul 11, 2021 7:28:47 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

...it doesn't matter that you don't know any of the songs on the bottom half. BARELY ANYONE IN THE GENERAL PUBLIC KNOWS HALF OF WHAT'S ON THE CHARTS.

It's a f**king chart measuring streams, sales, and airplay amongst the general public. Even if it was whittled down to 50, I don't think that would change people not knowing what's charting. If you don't really care about that, that's not on Billboard to change to suit your tastes. Go make your own personal chart like other Pulse members

Yeah I don't know why people can't seem to grasp that Billboard is an industry publication, and above all else the charts are for the industry to gauge popularity, see how their stuff is doing, etc. We as the public just happened to catch onto it and get interested, but it isn't for us. So many complaints and debates could be avoided if people kept that in mind.

I agree that Billboard is an industry publications and it is supposed to gauge the popularity of songs based on sales, streaming, and airplay. However,  the inconsistency of the 50/20 rule makes the bottom 50 (of which I already hardly know anymore) even more inaccurate. Nobody wants to see One Too Many chart for a 62nd week in the 61-80 range because it might be 'gaining', when you have fresher songs like Up already in recurrency. Either tighten the 50/20 rule and apply it consistently, or get rid of the bottom 25 or 50 songs altogether.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Jul 11, 2021 7:45:56 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Jul 11, 2021 7:33:32 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Yeah I don't know why people can't seem to grasp that Billboard is an industry publication, and above all else the charts are for the industry to gauge popularity, see how their stuff is doing, etc. We as the public just happened to catch onto it and get interested, but it isn't for us. So many complaints and debates could be avoided if people kept that in mind.

I agree that Billboard is an industry publications and it is supposed to gauge the popularity of songs based on sales, streaming, and airplay. However,  the inconsistency of the 50/20 rule makes the bottom 50 (of which I already hardly know anymore) even more inaccurate. Nobody wants to see One Too Many chart for a 62nd week in the 61-80 range because it might be 'gaining', when you have fresher songs like Up already in recurrency. Either tighten the 50/20 rule and apply it consistently, or get rid of the bottom 25 or 50 songs altogether.

Oh my fucking god you fucking weirdo, can you just let One Too Many be a sleeper hit? ? ? ? ?

[mylo]

Jul 11, 2021 7:45:56 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Jul 11, 2021 7:33:32 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Yeah I don't know why people can't seem to grasp that Billboard is an industry publication, and above all else the charts are for the industry to gauge popularity, see how their stuff is doing, etc. We as the public just happened to catch onto it and get interested, but it isn't for us. So many complaints and debates could be avoided if people kept that in mind.

I agree that Billboard is an industry publications and it is supposed to gauge the popularity of songs based on sales, streaming, and airplay. However,  the inconsistency of the 50/20 rule makes the bottom 50 (of which I already hardly know anymore) even more inaccurate. Nobody wants to see One Too Many chart for a 62nd week in the 61-80 range because it might be 'gaining', when you have fresher songs like Up already in recurrency. Either tighten the 50/20 rule and apply it consistently, or get rid of the bottom 25 or 50 songs altogether.

You never learn do you? Can your brain only process One Too Many and Blinding Lights?

[thegreatdivine]

I can't wait for Blinding Lights to fall out of the Hot 100 so I don't have to see phieaglesfan712's posts any longer.