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Post by jayhawk1117 on Jul 25, 2021 12:40:55 GMT -5
The ironic thing is that BTS, The Kid LAROI, and Lil Nas X are all under the same label (Columbia). So if BTS ends up blocking Stay or Industry Baby from taking the #1, then that could finally be the deciding factor in Columbia saying "OK, this s**t has gone too far," just as I assume every other major label (especially Olivia's label Interscope) has decided already. Exactly. That group isn't on some fringe label. Columbia is completely complicit here and could easily shut this down by removing the 50 versions of the 2 songs. Something tells if a certain gay, black artist gets blocked at #2, he will use his social and amazing marketing savvy to 'discuss' the issue. Website sales should count, they're great for fan engagement. It's simply been abused by the label (issuing the multiple versions) and by dark $$$ that likely comes from the artists themselves. I'd feel differently, if the fans were actually spending their money. yeah if Industry Baby has a 400 plus week and misses number one.... It's over lol
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Post by lugus15 on Jul 25, 2021 12:43:08 GMT -5
The thing is, it's not BTS' fault that their competition is so weak and lame. G4u barely cracks 300 points each week.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jul 25, 2021 12:47:19 GMT -5
The thing is, it's not BTS' fault that their competition is so weak and lame. G4u barely cracks 300 points each week. Apologies that organic popularity is only worth 300 points each week I noticed that you only show up either to bash Olivia or say we're being to mean to ARMYs so can you just do Pulse a service and never post again?
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Post by Choco on Jul 25, 2021 12:47:34 GMT -5
The thing is, it's not BTS' fault that their competition is so weak and lame. G4u barely cracks 300 points each week. To be fair if some people weren't buying over 50 copies of the 16 versions each week, "Butter" wouldn't crack 250, let alone 300.
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Jul 25, 2021 12:53:51 GMT -5
The thing is, it's not BTS' fault that their competition is so weak and lame. G4u barely cracks 300 points each week. how dare the organic hit ONLY crack 300
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Post by edward on Jul 25, 2021 13:06:25 GMT -5
It's not really easy for a song to stay above 300 points for 10 weeks since like 2020. Good 4 u is still getting a lot of streams and is top 5 on radio so it's definitely not a weak no.1 Also the system is kinda broken so it isn't really accurate anyway.
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Post by kindofbiased on Jul 25, 2021 13:06:58 GMT -5
Would be hilarious to me if Columbia’s 24 copies of one single reign at #1 ended because Columbia’s own other artists ended up getting screwed out of #1s because of it
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Post by korbel16 on Jul 25, 2021 13:41:32 GMT -5
The thing is, it's not BTS' fault that their competition is so weak and lame. G4u barely cracks 300 points each week. oh ya totally never cracked 500+ points in a week or anything. Very weak !!
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Post by Lukas on Jul 26, 2021 8:38:51 GMT -5
Did you know that a song that is #2 on the radio and streaming metrics, aka the metrics the US population uses the most these days, is actually "really weak and lame?" Yeah, I know, really shocking, but it's true!
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Jul 26, 2021 8:59:14 GMT -5
Did you know that a song that is #2 on the radio and streaming metrics, aka the metrics the US population uses the most these days, is actually "really weak and lame?" Yeah, I know, really shocking, but it's true! but a song that can't consistently crack the top 30 on Spotify anymore, the top 1500 on Apple Music and has incredibly negative call-out scores is VERY strong and legitimate
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Post by spiritboy on Jul 26, 2021 9:08:15 GMT -5
I'd rather have 10 weeks of 300 points than debuting with 400-500-600 points and fall like a rock the second week.
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Post by nathanalbright on Jul 26, 2021 9:10:23 GMT -5
True, true.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 26, 2021 9:17:07 GMT -5
Did you know that a song that is #2 on the radio and streaming metrics, aka the metrics the US population uses the most these days, is actually "really weak and lame?" Yeah, I know, really shocking, but it's true! but a song that can't consistently crack the top 30 on Spotify anymore, the top 1500 on Apple Music and has incredibly negative call-out scores is VERY strong and legitimate Case in point, One Too Many continues to chart on the Hot 100 despite not being ranked on Apple Music or Spotify, and is below the Top 50 on the iTunes chart. It only ranks 44 on radio songs because country radio has been pushing this since last October despite ranking 35th out of 36 in call outs. Yep, this is totally normal.
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Post by nathanalbright on Jul 26, 2021 9:26:53 GMT -5
Go ahead and keep flogging that horse, as if it wasn't usual for songs to be promoted for months and months these days as long as it resonates with someone, first on Hot AC and then on country. Country songs routinely spend years being promoted before they hit the charts at all.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jul 26, 2021 9:27:42 GMT -5
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Post by lazer on Jul 26, 2021 9:31:57 GMT -5
#OneTooManyStreamingParty
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Post by Gary on Jul 26, 2021 9:39:21 GMT -5
This is what happens to you after staring at 'One Too Many' 'Blinding Lights'
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 26, 2021 9:42:45 GMT -5
I don't mind sales still being counted but why the hell are people allowed to buy 4 copies of a song on a website and have that count towards the Hot 100? Website sales should not be allowed on the Hot 100. Website sales are not the issue here, Why do you think that Website sales shouldn't be allowed to count on the Hot 100 just because of the Mass buying? Yeah, web site sales in and of itself isn't the issue. It's that the same people are buying multiple copies on a weekly basis. It's the mass buying that needs to be not be counted, or at least downweighted.
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Post by Limited Edition on Jul 26, 2021 9:48:52 GMT -5
#OneTooManyStreamingParty If the song wasn't mediocre, I would join
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 26, 2021 10:13:48 GMT -5
Go ahead and keep flogging that horse, as if it wasn't usual for songs to be promoted for months and months these days as long as it resonates with someone, first on Hot AC and then on country. Country songs routinely spend years being promoted before they hit the charts at all. But when was the last time you saw a song by two established artists in their 40s pushed by a format for nearly a year despite it being ranked almost at the very bottom of that format? Yeah, there are songs that take long to peak, but those are usually by a breakout artist smashing on multiple formats and probably with good call out scores (for example, Lights by Ellie Goulding in 2012). Not by 2 established artists with a song only relevant on one format with very bad call out scores.
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Post by Gary on Jul 26, 2021 10:24:05 GMT -5
Go ahead and keep flogging that horse, as if it wasn't usual for songs to be promoted for months and months these days as long as it resonates with someone, first on Hot AC and then on country. Country songs routinely spend years being promoted before they hit the charts at all. But when was the last time you saw a song by two established artists in their 40s pushed by a format for nearly a year despite it being ranked almost at the very bottom of that format? Yeah, there are songs that take long to peak, but those are usually by a breakout artist smashing on multiple formats and probably with good call out scores (for example, Lights by Ellie Goulding in 2012). Not by 2 established artists with a song only relevant on one format with very bad call out scores. One Too Many is far from the oldest song in the upper portion of country radio But I think the real issue that people are having is, how many times do you need to keep repeating the same post before you move on to a new topic? I think people are aware of your opinion on this song
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Post by rimetm on Jul 26, 2021 10:27:45 GMT -5
The thing about Country callouts is that it’s not close to comprehensive because of how slow the format is. Only a scant few songs on the list have yet to make the Hot 100 and several have gone recurrent. In addition, the more important stat here is Pop Score. Most people check on the Top 40 callouts, and for example this week, only 8 of the 29 covered songs have scores of 80 or higher. For Country, all (including One Too Many) but 4 songs are at that threshold, with all but Next Girl (which is getting into burnout phase early) expected to reach that mark once familiarity improves. One Too Many itself still has room to grow from its current 81, with it expected to be pushed to an 85 by its peak.
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Post by nathanalbright on Jul 26, 2021 10:47:46 GMT -5
Go ahead and keep flogging that horse, as if it wasn't usual for songs to be promoted for months and months these days as long as it resonates with someone, first on Hot AC and then on country. Country songs routinely spend years being promoted before they hit the charts at all. But when was the last time you saw a song by two established artists in their 40s pushed by a format for nearly a year despite it being ranked almost at the very bottom of that format? Yeah, there are songs that take long to peak, but those are usually by a breakout artist smashing on multiple formats and probably with good call out scores (for example, Lights by Ellie Goulding in 2012). Not by 2 established artists with a song only relevant on one format with very bad call out scores. I'd have to look at the callouts for the last Garth Brooks single or most recent duets between Tim McGraw and Faith Hill, but I would suspect the same kind of thing going on. This is by no means an unusual thing in country.
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Post by Caviar on Jul 26, 2021 12:32:45 GMT -5
No update? Are they auditing suspicious streams this week? Stay tuned!
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Post by nathanalbright on Jul 26, 2021 12:35:46 GMT -5
Let's see about that.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 26, 2021 12:36:27 GMT -5
For Country, all (including One Too Many) but 4 songs are at that threshold, with all but Next Girl (which is getting into burnout phase early) expected to reach that mark once familiarity improves. One Too Many itself still has room to grow from its current 81, with it expected to be pushed to an 85 by its peak. lol, the song has been out for 10 months now. When exactly do you expect ‘once familiarity improves’ to happen? June 2022?
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Post by otaviohmg on Jul 26, 2021 12:46:47 GMT -5
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jul 26, 2021 12:46:51 GMT -5
By Gary Trust 7/26/2021
The song spends an eighth week on top, matching the reign of Olivia Rodrigo's "Drivers License." BTS' "Butter" rebounds to No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 songs chart, from No. 7, adding an eighth week on top and tying for the chart's longest command of 2021, first logged by Olivia Rodrigo's "Drivers License" in January-March. "Butter" replaces BTS' own "Permission to Dance," which launched at No. 1 on the Hot 100 a week earlier, succeeding "Butter," which had spent the previous seven weeks at No. 1. "Permission to Dance" falls to No. 7. The Hot 100 blends all-genre U.S. streaming (official audio and official video), radio airplay and sales data. All charts (dated July 31) will update on Billboard.com tomorrow (July 27) For all chart news, you can follow billboard and billboardcharts on both Twitter and Instagram.
"Butter," released on HYBE/BigHit Music/Columbia Records, drew 30.7 million radio airplay audience impressions (up 2%) and 8.8 million U.S. streams (down 21%) in the week ending July 22, according to MRC Data.
Despite its airplay gain, the track drops 20-21 on Radio Songs. On Streaming Songs, it falls 26-40.
As "Butter" soars back to No. 1 on the Hot 100 from No. 7, swapping spots with "Permission to Dance" (1-7), sales most sharply tell the story of the stark rank changes. A week after "Permission to Dance" opened with 140,100 downloads sold (via its original and instrumental digital versions, each on sale for 69 cents), following its July 9 release, it drops by 39% to 85,000 in the week ending July 22 (encompassing those two digital versions, plus an "alternate single cover" option released in the group's webstore the last day of the tracking week, also for 69 cents).
Meanwhile, "Butter" resurges by 132% to 115,600 sold from 49,800, good for the Hot 100's top Sales Gainer award.
"Butter" tallies an eighth week atop the Digital Song Sales chart (2-1), supplanting "Permission to Dance" (1-2).
As "Butter" replaces "Permission to Dance" at No. 1 on the Hot 100, a week after "Permission to Dance" took over for "Butter," BTS is the first act to displace itself at No. 1 with a new leader and then send the previous No. 1 back to the summit with no other acts holding the top spot in between.
Olivia Rodrigo's "Good 4 U" holds at No. 2 on the Hot 100, nine weeks after it premiered at No. 1. It keeps at No. 2 on Streaming Songs, after seven weeks on top (24.4 million, down 5%); rises 4-3 on Radio Songs (71.5 million, up 10%); and holds at No. 12 on Digital Song Sales (7,100, down 4%). (See below for more on Rodrigo's Hot 100 and airplay chart moves.)
Dua Lipa's "Levitating," featuring DaBaby, rebounds 4-3 on the Hot 100, after reaching No. 2, as it logs a fifth week at No. 1 on Radio Songs, up 2% to a new weekly-best 81.4 million audience impressions. It also marks Lipa's best Radio Songs command outright in terms of weeks on top, surpassing the four-week reign of her prior leader, "Don't Start Now," in March-April 2020.
Plus, "Levitating" hits No. 1 on the Adult Contemporary chart, becoming Lipa's first leader on the radio ranking. She previously reached the AC top five with "Don't Start Now" (No. 5, this January) and "Break My Heart" (No. 4, April).
(Lipa additionally debuts two songs on the latest Hot 100: she's featured on Pop Smoke's "Demeanor," at No. 86, while her own "Love Again" enters at No. 89. The latter is new on the chart, but its origins trace back almost a century: it borrows the signature section of Lew Stone & His Monseigneur Band and Al Bowlly's "My Woman," which was released in 1933 and co-written by Bing Crosby. White Town's "Your Woman," which hit No. 23 on the Hot 100 in 1997, also incorporates the classic instrumental hook.)
The Kid LAROI and Justin Bieber's "Stay" dips to No. 4 on the Hot 100, a week after soaring in at No. 3. Still, it notches a second week atop Streaming Songs (28.6 million, down 6%) and enters Radio Songs at No. 35 (22.1 million, up 71%), as it wins the Hot 100's top Airplay Gainer honor.
(The Kid LAROI also earns his first No. 1 on a Billboard radio chart, as prior single "Without You," which hit No. 8 on the Hot 100 in May, takes over atop Adult Pop Airplay.)
Doja Cat's "Kiss Me More," featuring SZA, repeats at No. 5 on the Hot 100, after hitting No. 3; Ed Sheeran's "Bad Habits" is steady at No. 6, three weeks after it debuted at its No. 5 high; and, below BTS' "Permission to Dance," Lil Nas X's "Montero (Call Me by Your Name)" keeps at No. 8, following a week at No. 1.
Olivia Rodrigo's "Deja Vu" climbs 10-9 on the Hot 100, after reaching No. 3. It concurrently enters the Radio Songs top five (7-5; 61.1 million, up 6%). Meanwhile, Rodrigo rules the Pop Airplay radio-based chart for a second week with "Good 4 U," as "Deja Vu" ascends 5-4 and "Traitor" debuts at No. 40. Those three songs (with "Traitor" not being promoted as an official single) follow her breakthrough smash "Drivers License," which topped Pop Airplay for five weeks in March-April, with all four tracks from her debut album, Sour.
Rounding out the Hot 100's top 10, The Weeknd and Ariana Grande's "Save Your Tears" drops 9-10, after two weeks at No. 1.
Again, for all chart news, you can follow billboard and billboardcharts on both Twitter and Instagram and all charts (dated July 31), including the Hot 100 in its entirety, will refresh on Billboard.com tomorrow (July 27).
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jul 26, 2021 12:48:39 GMT -5
Weeks in the top 10. 29 Levitating 25 Save Your Tears 15 Kiss Me More 14 Montero (Call Me By Your Name) 10 good 4 u 10 deja vu 9 Butter 3 Bad Habits 2 Stay 2 Permisson to Dance
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Post by iHype. on Jul 26, 2021 12:48:48 GMT -5
#40 on Streaming & #1 on Hot 100.
Let’s see if this exits the Streaming chart completely while #1 at this point.
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