|
|
Post by phieaglesfan712 on Aug 9, 2021 16:22:19 GMT -5
so many silly excuses.if a female pop girl did the numbers of 'take my breath' everyone here would drag her..weeknd release this week was perfect..kanye didn't drop his album,drake didn't release yet.. Wow you really hate The Weeknd, the only people going after pop girls for doing lower numbers are deluded Twitter stans and anxious chart watchers that use the Hot 100 threads as artist discussion threads and cried about BL flopping after falling to #52 in it's second week. Songs stabilize, again BL took a couple months to hit big. Look at the BL thread, everybody was calling it a flop a week after it debuted. Then it became the biggest song of all time. Let TYB have a few weeks to build radio, stabilize on streaming and then we can talk about it being a flop. There's no reason during the first week for any song we should be calling it a flop, the track hasn't had any time to grow yet. I love Abel, but you’re wrong on this. If this really was a busy time and A-listers are dropping every week, BL would be in recurrency. It just hasn’t really been busy since Butter/Sour dropped. |
|
|
|
Post by nathanalbright on Aug 9, 2021 16:23:37 GMT -5
It seems like every week we're talking about albums or releases that people view as flops. It's pretty fatiguing, really.
|
|
|
|
Post by kcdawg13 on Aug 9, 2021 16:24:11 GMT -5
Wow you really hate The Weeknd, the only people going after pop girls for doing lower numbers are deluded Twitter stans and anxious chart watchers that use the Hot 100 threads as artist discussion threads and cried about BL flopping after falling to #52 in it's second week. Songs stabilize, again BL took a couple months to hit big. Look at the BL thread, everybody was calling it a flop a week after it debuted. Then it became the biggest song of all time. Let TYB have a few weeks to build radio, stabilize on streaming and then we can talk about it being a flop. There's no reason during the first week for any song we should be calling it a flop, the track hasn't had any time to grow yet. I said it again yesterday, blinding lights wasn't an official single when it was released..many weeks later it became an official single with radio support and playlists..if you want to compare take my breath then compare it with heartless or callout my name or starboy! Lmao Heartless fell to #17 in its second week, do you remember when everyone was laughing at the song for having the biggest fall in Hot 100 history at the time? Probably not since you made your account months after the song peaked. Heartless didn't do that well in it's first couple weeks either, everyone thought it was the hype single leading into BL. But the song ended up becoming a decent sized hit, and it stabilized. |
|
iamsorare
Platinum Member
Banned
Joined: June 2020
Posts: 1,177
|
Post by iamsorare on Aug 9, 2021 16:26:47 GMT -5
I said it again yesterday, blinding lights wasn't an official single when it was released..many weeks later it became an official single with radio support and playlists..if you want to compare take my breath then compare it with heartless or callout my name or starboy! Lmao Heartless fell to #17 in its second week, do you remember when everyone was laughing at the song for having the biggest fall in Hot 100 history at the time? Probably not since you made your account months after the song peaked. Heartless didn't do that well in it's first couple weeks either, everyone thought it was the hype single leading into BL. But the song ended up becoming a decent sized hit, and it stabilized. it was the THIRD week ,not the second and it fell that much cause of the holiday-christmas songs.. heartless bounced back and spent many weeks in the top 20 and returned to top 5 on hot 100.. take my breath is doing worse so far |
|
|
|
Post by phieaglesfan712 on Aug 9, 2021 16:28:11 GMT -5
Again, the Heartless situation should come with an asterisk due to the holiday season. It’s fall from 1-17 would have been like 1-12 if it was any time of the year. I wouldn’t say it’s post Christmas run was stabilizing, but rather a correction from a steeper fall than what would have been normal.
|
|
|
|
Post by nathanalbright on Aug 9, 2021 16:29:05 GMT -5
It ended up hitting the YE, so it was stable enough. Not all #1 hits in this era have stabilized to that extent after memorable falls from pole position.
|
|
iamsorare
Platinum Member
Banned
Joined: June 2020
Posts: 1,177
|
Post by iamsorare on Aug 9, 2021 16:30:27 GMT -5
It ended up hitting the YE, so it was stable enough. Not all #1 hits in this era have stabilized to that extent after memorable falls from pole position. heartless was #28 on YE ,yeah pretty good result |
|
suzcruz7
Gold Member
Joined: January 2021
Posts: 535
|
Post by suzcruz7 on Aug 9, 2021 16:32:29 GMT -5
It seems like every week we're talking about albums or releases that people view as flops. It's pretty fatiguing, really. They thrive off negativity. Anything negative, they're for it. |
|
|
|
Post by nathanalbright on Aug 9, 2021 16:33:28 GMT -5
I'd rather celebrate the 100 songs that are on there or songs that are close that I would like to see make it in future weeks, but that's just me personally  . |
|
|
|
Post by kcdawg13 on Aug 9, 2021 16:38:47 GMT -5
Lmao Heartless fell to #17 in its second week, do you remember when everyone was laughing at the song for having the biggest fall in Hot 100 history at the time? Probably not since you made your account months after the song peaked. Heartless didn't do that well in it's first couple weeks either, everyone thought it was the hype single leading into BL. But the song ended up becoming a decent sized hit, and it stabilized. it was the THIRD week ,not the second and it fell that much cause of the holiday-christmas songs.. heartless bounced back and spent many weeks in the top 20 and returned to top 5 on hot 100.. don't compare heartless with take my breath cause take my breath is doing worse so far Heartless Hot 100 run: 32-1-17-26-39-20-17-18-19-19-17-17-14-13-17-21-16-4-12-19-21-28-37-out After the Christmas rush, the song stabilized decently in the Top 20, but at this time people were still calling the song a flop or underperforming for Weeknd standards. I was there, I remember. You have to give songs time to grow, everybody here calls every song that doesn't debut at #1 a flop. Bad Habits also got that treatment but it's turning out be a nicely sized hit for Ed Sheeran. |
|
iamsorare
Platinum Member
Banned
Joined: June 2020
Posts: 1,177
|
Post by iamsorare on Aug 9, 2021 16:40:52 GMT -5
it was the THIRD week ,not the second and it fell that much cause of the holiday-christmas songs.. heartless bounced back and spent many weeks in the top 20 and returned to top 5 on hot 100.. don't compare heartless with take my breath cause take my breath is doing worse so far Heartless Hot 100 run: 32-1-17-26-39-20-17-18-19-19-17-17-14-13-17-21-16-4-12-19-21-28-37-out After the Christmas rush, the song stabilized decently in the Top 20, but at this time people were still calling the song a flop or underperforming for Weeknd standards. I was there, I remember. You have to give songs time to grow, everybody here calls every song that doesn't debut at #1 a flop. Bad Habits also got that treatment but it's turning out be a nicely sized hit for Ed Sheeran. bad habits debuted at top 5 something that weekn's new single can't do..also many people including me said that post Malone's single was a flop and look now what happened.we were right!! |
|
|
|
Post by nathanalbright on Aug 9, 2021 16:42:15 GMT -5
If you call everything a flop you will be right in at least some cases.
|
|
|
|
Post by kcdawg13 on Aug 9, 2021 16:44:19 GMT -5
Heartless Hot 100 run: 32-1-17-26-39-20-17-18-19-19-17-17-14-13-17-21-16-4-12-19-21-28-37-out After the Christmas rush, the song stabilized decently in the Top 20, but at this time people were still calling the song a flop or underperforming for Weeknd standards. I was there, I remember. You have to give songs time to grow, everybody here calls every song that doesn't debut at #1 a flop. Bad Habits also got that treatment but it's turning out be a nicely sized hit for Ed Sheeran. bad habits debuted at top 5 something that weekn's new single can't do..also many people including me said that post Malone's single was a flop and look now what happened.we were right!! I didn't say Bad Habits flopped, because it's a hit. But people were already calling it a flop because it wasn't doing amazing as other Ed Sheeran singles did, but it ended up stabilizing decent on streaming and it's keeping up in the Top 10. |
|
|
|
Post by phieaglesfan712 on Aug 9, 2021 16:45:26 GMT -5
it was the THIRD week ,not the second and it fell that much cause of the holiday-christmas songs.. heartless bounced back and spent many weeks in the top 20 and returned to top 5 on hot 100.. don't compare heartless with take my breath cause take my breath is doing worse so far Heartless Hot 100 run: 32-1-17-26-39-20-17-18-19-19-17-17-14-13-17-21-16-4-12-19-21-28-37-out After the Christmas rush, the song stabilized decently in the Top 20, but at this time people were still calling the song a flop or underperforming for Weeknd standards. I was there, I remember. You have to give songs time to grow, everybody here calls every song that doesn't debut at #1 a flop. Bad Habits also got that treatment but it's turning out be a nicely sized hit for Ed Sheeran. I still call the 1-17-26-39-20-17 portion of the run a correction, rather than stabilizing. If not for the Christmas season, that portion of the run would have probably been something like 1-12-13-15-16-17. |
|
|
|
Post by kcdawg13 on Aug 9, 2021 16:46:20 GMT -5
Heartless Hot 100 run: 32-1-17-26-39-20-17-18-19-19-17-17-14-13-17-21-16-4-12-19-21-28-37-out After the Christmas rush, the song stabilized decently in the Top 20, but at this time people were still calling the song a flop or underperforming for Weeknd standards. I was there, I remember. You have to give songs time to grow, everybody here calls every song that doesn't debut at #1 a flop. Bad Habits also got that treatment but it's turning out be a nicely sized hit for Ed Sheeran. I still call the 1-17-26-39-20-17 portion of the run a correction, rather than stabilizing. If not for the Christmas season, that portion of the run would have probably been something like 1-12-13-15-16-17. Doesn't matter when people were still calling it a flop even when it returned to the Top 20 |
|
rainygirl
Gold Member
Joined: June 2020
Posts: 860
|
Post by rainygirl on Aug 9, 2021 16:46:38 GMT -5
Wow you really hate The Weeknd, the only people going after pop girls for doing lower numbers are deluded Twitter stans and anxious chart watchers that use the Hot 100 threads as artist discussion threads and cried about BL flopping after falling to #52 in it's second week. Songs stabilize, again BL took a couple months to hit big. Look at the BL thread, everybody was calling it a flop a week after it debuted. Then it became the biggest song of all time. Let TYB have a few weeks to build radio, stabilize on streaming and then we can talk about it being a flop. There's no reason during the first week for any song we should be calling it a flop, the track hasn't had any time to grow yet. I said it again yesterday, blinding lights wasn't an official single when it was released..it became an official single many weeks later.if you want to compare take my breath then compare it with heartless or call out my name or starboy! regardless of how you slice and dice it , BL is a friggin magical anomaly and a legend of a song . It’s unrealistic to expect that lightning to be duplicated again anytime soon |
|
|
|
Post by nathanalbright on Aug 9, 2021 16:48:58 GMT -5
Yeah, just about every song looks like a flop when compared to BL.
|
|
mylo
Charting
Joined: February 2021
Posts: 276
|
Post by mylo on Aug 9, 2021 17:21:00 GMT -5
Abel hit a commercial peak with AH. He will never beat BL and any song released will look like a flop compared to BL. Abel's debuts are always weak. His songs stabilise when radio gets on board. I'm tired of the "people are flopping arguments" People said Ed flopped with Bad Habits, people said Justin flopped with Anyone and Hold On, people are saying The Weeknd flopped with TMB. Ultimately though Justin got his no.1 with Peaches and Bad Habits is doing just fine. TMB will make top 10 and it'll probably stay for a few weeks, this will be good enough for him. It's been 17 months since AH and at this point it feels as if even Abel wants his old songs to die. For some reason radio has decided that BL must only leave the charts in 2028 and that SYT should still be in the top 10 despite the fact it was the weakest single of AH.
|
|
lurker2
Gold Member
Joined: April 2019
Posts: 691
|
Post by lurker2 on Aug 9, 2021 18:01:34 GMT -5
TMB is a minor underpreformance, but since it'll have radio and is good hopefully it stabilizes. I wouldn't say we should judge stuff off BL (songs rebounding like it are the exception), but TMB is doing alright. Not good (I was hoping for slightly above Heartless), but it isn't a flop IMO.
|
|
|
|
Post by goldentakes on Aug 9, 2021 18:17:02 GMT -5
Yeah fr, people gotta stop overreacting to this stuff. While I'm disappointed with how Take My Breath is performing so far (bc it's a legitimately great song), I think it's far too soon to call it a flop. My guess is that it'll stabilize down the line and probably end up having a Heartless type run, Although I do agree that Abel should have waited until 2022 to start his album roll out.
|
|
GP
4x Platinum Member
TOOOO BE LOOOVED
Joined: December 2017
Posts: 4,975 
|
Post by GP on Aug 9, 2021 18:29:55 GMT -5
TMB is soo good I'm obsessed
|
|
Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ
Diamond Member
Joined: August 2017
Posts: 11,072
|
Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Aug 9, 2021 19:22:11 GMT -5
Yeah, GP (general public, ^not you GP) really know (or care) that both SYT and BL are in the top 20 of the Hot 100 chart...an average listener probably left Blinding in 2020, and SYT like 2-3 weeks after the remix with Ari.
I honestly don't buy that s**t about the overexposure, especially if controlled by the radio. It's 2021, most people don't really care about the radio, and they listen to whatever they want.
also, like I said 2 days ago, it's still early to tell or know something, but I guess it's just in human nature to label everything immediately.
|
|
TakeMe
Charting
Joined: November 2017
Posts: 350
|
Post by TakeMe on Aug 9, 2021 19:36:15 GMT -5
Is it possible Wknd peaked with AH/BL n future singles won’t do as well but still somewhat?
|
|
Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ
Diamond Member
Joined: August 2017
Posts: 11,072
|
Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Aug 9, 2021 19:37:47 GMT -5
|
|
suzcruz7
Gold Member
Joined: January 2021
Posts: 535
|
Post by suzcruz7 on Aug 9, 2021 19:42:31 GMT -5
Is it possible Wknd peaked with AH/BL n future singles won’t do as well but still somewhat? Well...I'm not sure how he (or anyone) could do better than Blinding Lights in the near future. |
|
jenglisbe
Diamond Member
Joined: January 2005
Posts: 35,645
|
Post by jenglisbe on Aug 9, 2021 19:44:10 GMT -5
Not "Blinding Lights" outlasting the lead single from the album after it!
|
|
dovahduck
Platinum Member
Kavinsky finally dropped! :)
Joined: April 2018
Posts: 1,871
|
Post by dovahduck on Aug 9, 2021 20:17:39 GMT -5
Not "Blinding Lights" outlasting the lead single from the album after it! "Blinding Lights" will outlast humanity. NASA will send an engrained recording of it on vinyl to outer space and future alien civilizations will study that as the last remaining fragment of the Sol solar system civilization. They will note us as having been blinding by the lights due to the future eventual red giant extinction event that our world will face. |
|
jred
Platinum Member
Joined: November 2014
Posts: 1,337
|
Post by jred on Aug 9, 2021 20:27:23 GMT -5
Is it possible Wknd peaked with AH/BL n future singles won’t do as well but still somewhat? Considering BL is the biggest hit single of all time in the United States, I think it’s fair to say that was his peak, yes. |
|
dremolus - solarpunk
Diamond Member
𝙁𝙧𝙤𝙢 𝙋𝙖𝙡𝙚𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙣𝙚 𝙩𝙤 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙋𝙃, 𝙎𝙩𝙤𝙥 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙐.𝙎. 𝙒𝙖𝙧 𝙈𝙖𝙘𝙝𝙞𝙣𝙚
Joined: August 2019
Posts: 13,326
My Reviews
Pronouns: (he/him/they)
|
Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Aug 9, 2021 22:05:06 GMT -5
Are we done arguing about TMB yet?
|
|
|
|
Post by nathanalbright on Aug 9, 2021 22:33:55 GMT -5
We're only on page 9. It's going to be a long week if you want the arguments to end now.
|
|
