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Post by allow that on Sept 29, 2004 9:56:03 GMT -5
"Boulevard of Broken Dreams" is #15 in Audience on the Alternative chart. It is currently #39 on the Mediabase Alt chart, but is completely out of the Taking Off Section and has a bullet of +74.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Oct 2, 2004 3:08:13 GMT -5
"Holiday" and this are my 2 favorite songs off the album, which is pretty f**king cool, if you ask me. They're already in my Top 5 Green Day songs of all time; maybe even my eventual favorites. And "Jesus of Suburbia," despite being over 9 minutes long and having 5(!) Roman numeraled parts (And there's another one of these at the other end of the album!) is pretty f**ing good, also. I still can't get my head around these two epics. I'm not used to rock songs having multiple movements. The first one is definitely better than the second one, though.
God, this is easily their most musically well-written album ever.
This song is going straight to the Top 10 on my personal chart and will surely be another #1 for them, nationally. The last time they had a Top 10 on my chart was "Geek Stink Breath" back in '95/'96. After Dookie being my favorite album of '95 and "When I Come Around" being the longest-running #1 that year with 15 straight weeks, that's how little all their singles since have impressed me as a Green Day fan. Sure they've scraped the chart a few times since then, and I think "Redundant" went to the Top 20, but I now with this song and this album, they're coming back around on me in a big way.
By the way, did anyone, when hearing Billie Joe's "ah-ah"s after the chorus, or wherever it happens, have Avril's "My Happy Ending" cross their mind? Clearly the songs were written at about the same time, so no unconscious borrowing is going on, but still...
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Post by Crushcrushchris on Oct 4, 2004 17:07:06 GMT -5
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Post by irice22 on Oct 4, 2004 19:01:40 GMT -5
I'm glad this is their next single, I love it!
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Post by Unexpected on Oct 4, 2004 19:06:07 GMT -5
Love this one and I also did notice the tinge of Avril as well.
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Post by Matt4319 on Nov 8, 2004 2:31:33 GMT -5
#6 and +420! It was actually just 22 spins from #3 this week.
This is gonna be #1 for a while.
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Post by crash46 on Nov 8, 2004 2:58:45 GMT -5
By the way, did anyone, when hearing Billie Joe's "ah-ah"s after the chorus, or wherever it happens, have Avril's "My Happy Ending" cross their mind? Clearly the songs were written at about the same time, so no unconscious borrowing is going on, but still... Yeah.
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Post by Radical347 on Nov 8, 2004 23:31:08 GMT -5
This song is alright but I'm not wow'd by it like everyone else is. It sounds like they were trying too hard to create one of those teenage depression songs, especially with a title like that, and the music is a bit too edgy for the lyrics.
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Post by crash46 on Nov 9, 2004 1:52:55 GMT -5
But if it wasn't "edgy" like that, it'd be just like all the other teenage depression songs and it'd be just another one. The last minute of the song, when the intensity level is at its highest and it stays that way right up to the end of the song, is what made an okay song into a very good one.
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Post by Slinky on Nov 9, 2004 8:52:49 GMT -5
One thing that usually turns me off in a rock song, but I like about this song, is the repetition. Lyrically, the song is very simple. The verses are very similar, and even within those verses, the song repeats similar lyrics (e.g. "I walk alone"). Yet, thanks to the music, the song has a definite climax and each verse evokes a different feeling, even though the lyrics are the same. It is really well done.
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Post by thedualityofman on Nov 9, 2004 10:53:14 GMT -5
Its not great Green Day lyric wise but instrumentally, I think this is one of the best songs they've ever written.
Expect atleast 2 months out of Green Day being at #1 with this.
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Post by Miguelín on Nov 9, 2004 16:23:00 GMT -5
Its not great Green Day lyric wise but instrumentally, I think this is one of the best songs they've ever written. Expect atleast 2 months out of Green Day being at #1 with this. I Agree. 8 - 10 weeks at least
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Post by EvanJ on Nov 13, 2004 20:34:51 GMT -5
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Nov 15, 2004 22:10:46 GMT -5
The new video (which I only saw half of on MTV2 today) looks great. Sam Bayer agreed to do another one for them. Green Day are on fire with this album; arguably the most relevant they've been since '95.
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Post by thedualityofman on Nov 16, 2004 2:14:42 GMT -5
American Idiot may be as relevant and can quite possibly stand the test of time just as much as Dookie has.
The video for Boulevard Of Broken Dreams looks like a classic that will be remembered for a long long time.
Hell, Boulevard Of Broken Dreams is a song that will be remembered for a long long time.
Does anyone kind of get the same vibe from it that comes from When I Come Around? I know they're two different subject matters but in terms of the sound, they have some pretty big similarities.
My prediction is that whatever is released after Boulevard Of Broken Dreams, will go atleast top 5. Green Day are way too hot to not get that kind of airplay.
Hell, now that I think about it, I don't think anyone's been able to come back with the impact and borderline worship that Green Day has.
The Red Hot Chili Peppers are the only other band I can think of that may be even close as far as coming back to dominate the airwaves and get as much love and respect. U2, The Foo Fighters and maybe Blink 182 are the only other bands I can think of who could come close.
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Post by j on Nov 16, 2004 10:40:55 GMT -5
Well, Linkin Park just returned to the charts bagging 5 #1s in the process.
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Post by thedualityofman on Nov 16, 2004 12:40:21 GMT -5
Linkin Park reaks of payola though.
That and I generally dislike them, but that isn't for this thread.
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Post by allow that on Nov 16, 2004 12:42:40 GMT -5
Well, Linkin Park just returned to the charts bagging 5 #1s in the process. They're still a relatively new artist though. The bands Duality mentioned are pretty much the only ones I can think of who are still relevant after almost a decade (or even much longer) on the charts.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Nov 17, 2004 19:06:29 GMT -5
Linkin Park reaks of payola though. I'm not so sure about that...I think mainstream Alternative radio likes them a lot more right now than you give them credit for.
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Post by j on Nov 18, 2004 6:44:25 GMT -5
They're still a relatively new artist though. All he said was bands making a return so I thought anyone on their second album qualified. Anyways...
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Post by flarbygarby on Nov 18, 2004 8:05:33 GMT -5
I listened to this one for the first time yesterday. It's sweet, simple, yet honest. #1 easily.
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Post by EvanJ on Nov 18, 2004 18:19:30 GMT -5
It debuts at Number 71 on the Billboard Hot 100.
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Post by Keith3000 on Nov 19, 2004 2:03:47 GMT -5
American Idiot may be as relevant and can quite possibly stand the test of time just as much as Dookie has. The video for Boulevard Of Broken Dreams looks like a classic that will be remembered for a long long time. Hell, Boulevard Of Broken Dreams is a song that will be remembered for a long long time. Does anyone kind of get the same vibe from it that comes from When I Come Around? I know they're two different subject matters but in terms of the sound, they have some pretty big similarities. My prediction is that whatever is released after Boulevard Of Broken Dreams, will go atleast top 5. Green Day are way too hot to not get that kind of airplay. Hell, now that I think about it, I don't think anyone's been able to come back with the impact and borderline worship that Green Day has. The Red Hot Chili Peppers are the only other band I can think of that may be even close as far as coming back to dominate the airwaves and get as much love and respect. U2, The Foo Fighters and maybe Blink 182 are the only other bands I can think of who could come close. I agree with basically this whole post...very well said.
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Post by kingLUKE22 on Nov 19, 2004 9:17:47 GMT -5
Yeah, this Summer when I heard that Green Day had a new album coming out I didn't pay much attention to it. The last song of theirs that I remember being a semi-big hit was "Minority" in 2000. I just figured they might get a novelty hit off of the album considering it was, afterall, Green Day. But as Duality said, this band is borderlined worshiped now. Every single one of my friends is in love with this entire album and have all run out to get a copy. The last time I remeber such mass hysteria over an alternative band was when Evanescence came out, but unlike Green Day, they were a NEW band.
I'm sincerely thrilled about how well Green Day are doing now, and "Boulevard" will probably go down as one of my favorite songs of all-time. I've heard the entire album now, and I agree, ANYTHING that is released after this will go top 5 not only for the buzz, but due to sheer quality. Can't wait to see what the next single will be in about 10 weeks when this one isn't #1.
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Post by friday on Nov 19, 2004 11:10:15 GMT -5
Yeah, these girls who I was eating lunch with said that Green Day were the "Beatles of punk rock". I told them that Green Day aren't that, that the Ramones would be the "Beatles of punk rock". They sloffed the comment off saying the Ramones suck. I don't see how anyone can be a fan of punk rock without at least liking the Ramones. I'm thinking it's either because the Ramones aren't from Seattle, or they never heard of them in the first place.
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Post by thedualityofman on Nov 19, 2004 11:19:08 GMT -5
How do you NOT know who the Ramones are?
Those same females probably also believe that Good Charlotte are the Pink Floyd and Simple Plan are the Doors of punk rock as well.
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Post by SyrupBoy on Nov 19, 2004 12:15:48 GMT -5
mainstream Alternative radio Oxymoron of the century.
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Post by halo19 on Nov 19, 2004 17:08:13 GMT -5
I'm not a big LP fan, but I regretfully admit that I never really thought there was payola with them. My first sign was the fact that they had all of those non-official singles on the chart in 2002, then when they finally release a single in March of 2003, it explodes. The only thing that annoys me is that all 5 singles were #1's. I don't mind all of those, but they aren't all good enough for that.
It's clear why this is exploding. It's a well-received album from an already-mainstay artist on the format.
Incubus seem to have a lot of respect and success with each release. I am really convinced that they didn't follow-up "Talk Shows".
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Post by friday on Nov 19, 2004 17:30:06 GMT -5
Those same females probably also believe that Good Charlotte are the Pink Floyd and Simple Plan are the Doors of punk rock as well. Well, I don't know about that. Though I saw an Avril Lavigne CD in one of the girls' CD cases, she told me Rammstein was one of her favorite punk bands (I didn't know they were punk, but oh well) and she was singing along to an Ozzy song on the radio today. So I don't think it's a case where they're your stereotypical air-headed female music fans. Well, maybe not all of them. And I did get her to amend her statement saying Green Day were the "Beatles of pop-punk", which is definitely a much more appropriate analogy in my opinion.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Nov 20, 2004 1:57:30 GMT -5
Nevertheless... And I did get her to amend her statement saying Green Day were the "Beatles of pop-punk", which is definitely a much more appropriate analogy in my opinion. I could argue that the Ramones are the "forefathers" of pop-punk as well. (I don't care to brand them the "Beatles" of punk rock due to their limited, yet sustained, success and their lack of evolution.) Joey was influenced by tons of '50's & '60's bubblegum pop. The Sex Pistols and the Clash (in their early days) were more straight-up "punk." Green Day are the Beatles of modern pop-punk, how 'bout that? However, seeing that there was no Beatles-type band in the pop-punk sub-genre before them, they very well could be the "Beatles of pop-punk," also, just like you said.
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