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Post by atg on Aug 23, 2021 14:57:36 GMT -5
Y’all must be on something if this is a boring week. Stay being a real *organic* massive hit with actual strong numbers at #1, Bad Habits up to #2, Lizzo at #4, Levitating tying for the 3rd highest number of weeks in the top 10, Olivia and Lil Nas still smashing with 2 songs in the top 10. Would you guys prefer Butter having like its 12th inorganic week at #1 instead if none of this action happened? Smh
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Post by renfield75 on Aug 23, 2021 14:58:35 GMT -5
What is this, the 10th or 11th week Deja Vu has floated between nos. 9 and 10?
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Post by livelightning on Aug 23, 2021 15:01:25 GMT -5
This is lowkey a boring top 2 and I like both of these songs but this will get tiring. So you want BUTTER back at #1? lol Also, why is DaBaby still listed? cause that's the version people are still listening to |
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Post by Groovy on Aug 23, 2021 15:10:22 GMT -5
I love how Butter hasn’t been at 1 for about 3 weeks now and it still lives in most of your heads rent free lol.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Aug 23, 2021 15:21:03 GMT -5
What is this, the 10th or 11th week Deja Vu has floated between nos. 9 and 10? This its full chart run so far: 8-15-11-12-15-17-21-3-8-9-10-9-10-10-10-9-10-9-10-9. So 11th. |
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Post by gikem on Aug 23, 2021 15:31:56 GMT -5
We really got these two to chart the same exact week. Both almost entirely thanks to sales. I don't care how tired I am of saying it, Billboard needs to reduce the power of sales in their formula yesterday.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Aug 23, 2021 15:47:58 GMT -5
By Gary Trust
8/23/2021
The track also launches at No. 3 on Hot Dance/Electronic Songs and extends John's record for the most AC hits.
Elton John graces the Billboard Hot 100 for the first time in over 21 years, as "Cold Heart (Pnau Remix)," with Dua Lipa, debuts at No. 81 on the chart dated Aug. 28.
The song, released Aug. 13 on Mercury/EMI/Interscope Records, opens with 3.8 million radio airplay audience impressions, 3.5 million streams and 8,600 downloads sold in the U.S. in the week ending Aug. 19, according to MRC Data.
English icon John sings part of his No. 18-peaking 1990 Hot 100 hit "Sacrifice" and London-born Lipa reprises his No. 6 1972 classic "Rocket Man" in "Cold Heart," set to a beat by Australia's Pnau (brothers Nick and Sam Littlemore and Peter Mayes).
John makes his first Hot 100 appearance since the chart dated July 29, 2000, when "Someday Out of the Blue" ranked at No. 99 after reaching No. 49. "Cold Heart" is his 68th career entry, a run that began on the Aug. 15, 1970, tally, when "Border Song" bowed at No. 93.
John boasts nine Hot 100 No. 1s, from "Crocodile Rock" in 1973 to "Candle in the Wind 1997"/"Something About the Way You Look Tonight," his longest-leading hit (14 weeks), in 1997-98. He has notched 27 top 10s (tied for the ninth-best total in the chart's 63-year archives), among 57 top 40 hits (the sixth-best sum; plus, he ranked in the top 40 in a record 30 consecutive years, from 1970 through 1999).
Meanwhile, Lipa, who earns her 17th Hot 100 hit, is the latest artist with whom John has teamed for an entry on the chart. His prior such collabs: "Don't Go Breaking My Heart," with Kiki Dee (No. 1, four weeks, 1976); "That's What Friends Are For," with Dionne Warwick, Gladys Knight and Stevie Wonder (No. 1, four weeks, 1986); "Flames of Paradise," with Jennifer Rush (No. 36, 1987); "Through the Storm," with Aretha Franklin (No. 16, 1989); "Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me," with George Michael (No. 1, one week, 1992); "True Love," with Dee (No. 56, 1993); an update of "Don't Go Breaking My Heart" with RuPaul (No. 92, 1994); and "Written in the Stars," with LeAnn Rimes (No. 29, 1999).
"Cold Heart" concurrently launches at No. 3 on Hot Dance/Electronic Songs, which, like the Hot 100, blends airplay, sales and streaming data. It's John's third entry on the chart (which started in 2013), after "Sine From Above," with Lady Gaga (No. 14, June 2020), and his and Years & Years' cover of Pet Shop Boys' No. 9-peaking 1987 Hot 100 hit "It's a Sin" (No. 34, this May). "Cold Heart" also starts at No. 9 on Digital Song Sales (which began in 2010), marking John's first top 10 on the chart.
Additionally, "Cold Heart" bounds in at No. 16 on the Adult Contemporary radio airplay chart, where John extends his record for the most career entries to 74, encompassing the survey's 60-year history. Barbra Streisand ranks second with 64 AC visits, followed by Neil Diamond with 59. In between his last Hot 100 entry in 2000 and "Cold Heart," John continued to score AC hits, logging 15 entries, including three top 10s.
"Cold Heart" also pushes 39-32 on Adult Pop Airplay, where it's John's first charted title since 2002, and is bubbling under Pop Airplay -- where, with a debut, he would make his first appearance since 1998.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Aug 23, 2021 15:52:59 GMT -5
I'm surprised that Brainwashed didn't make the top 5:
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Post by kindofbiased on Aug 23, 2021 15:57:39 GMT -5
me when a song is only big on streaming: fuck off, I don’t believe in that made up nonsense
me when an exiled Chinese billionaire who’s only known for making ridiculous anti ccp songs bulk buys his way onto the hot 100 with a song that basically doesn’t exist: so true!
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 23, 2021 16:04:26 GMT -5
With the exception of Butter, this is a pretty solid top ten. Granted, it’s fairly pop heavy so that’s probably why I think so but all the songs seem fairly significant. I think we’ll look back on the top tens around this week years from now and remember how big all of these songs were, similarly to how we were looking at 2011 a few weeks back.
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Post by 85la on Aug 23, 2021 16:05:13 GMT -5
We really got these two to chart the same exact week. Both almost entirely thanks to sales. I don't care how tired I am of saying it, Billboard needs to reduce the power of sales in their formula yesterday. I'm surprised that Brainwashed didn't make the top 5:
Unless either song was mass-purchased (which I"m not aware of), with Dance 7 being the #2 seller and landing only at #88 on the Hot 100, I think we can live with that. Given that Brainwashed isn't in the top 5 best-sellers and ranks slightly behind at #90, it probably had slightly more streams and/or airplay, but I think we can live with that ranking too. How much lower do you want sales to be weighed? |
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Post by tanooki on Aug 23, 2021 16:13:47 GMT -5
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Post by tanooki on Aug 23, 2021 16:14:17 GMT -5
Brainwashed isn't all sales, Tom Macdonald gets a notable amount of YouTube as well, not to mention around 1-2 million on demand streams give or take.
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Post by joshtheking on Aug 23, 2021 16:22:08 GMT -5
Is this the lowest amount of streams for a charting song in the streaming era? |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Aug 23, 2021 16:27:59 GMT -5
Brainwashed isn't all sales, Tom Macdonald gets a notable amount of YouTube as well, not to mention around 1-2 million on demand streams give or take. Agreed. YouTube's weekly US music video chart had it with 2.72 million streams. I think TOTC's probably overestimated its weekly digital sales while underestimated its streams. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Aug 23, 2021 16:29:58 GMT -5
Is this the lowest amount of streams for a charting song in the streaming era? Probably, unless a song somehow charted with only sales and radio. |
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Post by tanooki on Aug 23, 2021 16:38:51 GMT -5
Is this the lowest amount of streams for a charting song in the streaming era? Probably, unless a song somehow charted with only sales and radio. Iris by Phoebe Bridgers and Maggie Rogers had only sales |
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Post by joshtheking on Aug 23, 2021 16:39:33 GMT -5
Well this Dance 7 fiasco definitely means this week isn't boring now lol... twitter is going crazy. For anyone who doesn't know, this guy is a billionaire with many allegations against him, and those sales were probably astroturfed
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Post by kindofbiased on Aug 23, 2021 16:45:40 GMT -5
On the one hand, it’s genuinely vile that an exiled billionaire with rape and kidnapping allegations whose entire “”music career”” consists of anti Chinese bulls**t was able to game billboard’s system like this and Billboard should be ashamed for allowing this to happen and validating his “career” in any way
On the other hand this dude couldn’t even crack the top 85 lmfao
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Aug 23, 2021 16:47:07 GMT -5
Probably, unless a song somehow charted with only sales and radio. Iris by Phoebe Bridgers and Maggie Rogers had only sales How many streams did the Aaron Lewis song get during its debut week? Or was that all sales too? |
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Post by tanooki on Aug 23, 2021 16:48:38 GMT -5
Iris by Phoebe Bridgers and Maggie Rogers had only sales How many streams did the Aaron Lewis song get during its debut week? Or was that all sales too? It had some streams, yeah |
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Post by bbdenney94 on Aug 23, 2021 17:03:16 GMT -5
We really got these two to chart the same exact week. Both almost entirely thanks to sales. I don't care how tired I am of saying it, Billboard needs to reduce the power of sales in their formula yesterday. [twitter What on *earth* is that Miles Guo song? Who is that? I can’t find an official video on YouTube. Is this like when when Shamus M’Cool debuted on the charts in 1980 after getting playlisted (but not actually played on the radio)? Edit: holy SHIT the song has 9000 streams on Spotify TOTAL. Apparently he is a billionaire Chinese national who is in exile after being convicted of rape and kidnapping. Apparently he just… bought himself a position on the charts. Welp. |
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Post by Clode on Aug 23, 2021 17:13:27 GMT -5
What a load of BS that "Dance 7" and "Brainwashed" were both able to debut on the Hot 100 based mostly on Sales. Like it is ridiculous how a song that only had 5,000 streams and literally no radio debuted on the Chart thanks to it's Sales. I guess if nothing is going to be done to lower down the weight of sales then I would at least appreciate it if Billboard raised the weight of streams higher than it currently is.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Aug 23, 2021 17:52:37 GMT -5
^Regardless, I would think the Hot 100 is long overdue for a formula overhaul.
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Post by lazer on Aug 23, 2021 17:55:52 GMT -5
A Chinese billionaire who is convicted of rape and kidnapping, and also a Trump associate has a song in the Hot 100 that has streams that are below 10,000. Billboard must change the formula NOW.
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Post by atg on Aug 23, 2021 18:03:05 GMT -5
What a load of BS that "Dance 7" and "Brainwashed" were both able to debut on the Hot 100 based mostly on Sales. Like it is ridiculous how a song that only had 5,000 streams and literally no radio debuted on the Chart thanks to it's Sales. I guess if nothing is going to be done to lower down the weight of sales then I would at least appreciate it if Billboard raised the weight of streams higher than it currently is. Mark is going to have a field day on these totally organic and well streamed debuts. God this is a new low for Billboard.. |
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Post by gikem on Aug 23, 2021 18:22:40 GMT -5
What a load of BS that "Dance 7" and "Brainwashed" were both able to debut on the Hot 100 based mostly on Sales. Like it is ridiculous how a song that only had 5,000 streams and literally no radio debuted on the Chart thanks to it's Sales. I guess if nothing is going to be done to lower down the weight of sales then I would at least appreciate it if Billboard raised the weight of streams higher than it currently is. Mark is going to have a field day on these totally organic and well streamed debuts. God this is a new low for Billboard.. I’m hoping Mark will choose not to discuss either of these songs in the video and give the WOTW and DHM to other songs. If he can choose to veto albums from being covered and avoid songs that meet his album bomb rules, he’s well within his right to ban artists/songs from coverage on BBBD. |
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Post by nathanalbright on Aug 23, 2021 18:23:09 GMT -5
That depends on whether he wants to rant about them or is just sick of talking about them.
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Post by Limited Edition on Aug 23, 2021 18:41:44 GMT -5
Considering every BTS number one song has reached there mainly due to massbuying, I doubt Billboard care about this either.
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Post by Gary on Aug 23, 2021 18:49:28 GMT -5
Believe it or not - not everyone relies exclusively on streaming for music
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