Billboard Hot 100: 08/28/2021

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

At this rate, we’ll all have a songwriting credit somewhere on the album.

[85la]

Aug 24, 2021 21:41:41 GMT -5 firefox said:

In other news, seems like Hayley Williams & Josh Farro are now credited as a songwriters on Olivia's "Good 4 u". They will be getting 50% of the royalties... that's a lot I must say considering this is a huge hit. Good 4 them, maybe?

that's interesting. the songs do sound glaringly similar.

[lyhom]

that blurred lines lawsuit really did ruin songwriting credits for years to come, huh

[𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤]

Aug 24, 2021 21:46:30 GMT -5 Clode said:

I mean was it really necessary for Hayley and Josh to get credited as songwriters on "Good 4 U", Like was this done in order to avoid a possible Lawsuit?

yeah….the songs are kinda similar, but enough to warrant a credit imo. Oh well, this is how it goes w copyright in 2021

[nathanalbright]

Better to credit than to be sued for millions. If Sam Smith and Robin Thicke can be sued for songwriting credits, nothing says Olivia would be immune for an obvious influence.

[radio2009]

Aug 24, 2021 16:54:43 GMT -5 rekwiem said:

Aug 24, 2021 11:58:06 GMT -5 Naos said:

Bubbling Under:
1. Anne Wilson - My Jesus (+10)
2. Jimmie Allen & Brad Paisley - Freedom Was a Highway (+9)
3. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Nevada (=)
4. Sub Urban & Bella Poarch - Inferno (debut)
5. Lady A - Like a Lady (-1)
6. blackbear - @ my worst (+6)
7. Maroon 5 - Lost (+3)
8. Wale - Angles (-2)
9. Blxst & Tyga - Chosen (+16)
10. Kodak Black & Rod Wave - Before I Go (debut)
11. J Balvin & Skrillex - In Da Getto (+7)
12. Zac Brown Band - Same Boat (-5)
13. Michael Ray - Whiskey and Rain (+4)
14. Grupo Firme & Carin Leon - El Toxico (-1)
15. Jon Pardi - Tequila Little Time (=)
16. Maneskin - I Wanna Be Your Slave (-8)
17. Surf Curse - Freaks (+2)
18. Priscilla Block - Just About Over You (+5)
19. Grupo Firme - Ya Superame (debut)
20. YNW Melly - Take Kare (debut)
21. Sech & Jhay Cortez - 911 (=)
22. NLE Choppa - Mmm Hmm (debut)
23. Parker McCollum - To Be Loved By You (+1)
24. Tiesto & Karol G - Don't Be Shy (debut)
25. Evan Craft, Danny Gokey & Redimi2 - Be Alright (debut)

I Wanna Be Your Slave falling :( was really hoping that one would debut on the Hot 100

"Beggin" is the current single, once that's done "Slave" will be th next single.

[𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤]

^ I honestly doubt it. Beggin & IWBYS smashed simultaneously pretty much everywhere. Pushing IWBYS far after its streaming peak (when it feels like old news) is a bad move. They're teasing Teatro d'ira vol 2 so the follow-up will probably be from that

[Groovy]

The new Billboard Breakdown is out, why am I just now realizing that telepatia went recurrent?

[Choco]

If I were Olivia I would have probably taken the Good 4 U thing to court. They sound similar as in "inspired by" or like how a lot of Pop songs sound similar, but it was not a "deja vu"/"Cruel Summer" thing where it sounds like the exact same thing in parts.

[bbdenney94]

Aug 24, 2021 11:58:06 GMT -5 Naos said:

Bubbling Under:
1. Anne Wilson - My Jesus (+10)
2. Jimmie Allen & Brad Paisley - Freedom Was a Highway (+9)
3. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Nevada (=)
4. Sub Urban & Bella Poarch - Inferno (debut)
5. Lady A - Like a Lady (-1)
6. blackbear - @ my worst (+6)
7. Maroon 5 - Lost (+3)
8. Wale - Angles (-2)
9. Blxst & Tyga - Chosen (+16)
10. Kodak Black & Rod Wave - Before I Go (debut)
11. J Balvin & Skrillex - In Da Getto (+7)
12. Zac Brown Band - Same Boat (-5)
13. Michael Ray - Whiskey and Rain (+4)
14. Grupo Firme & Carin Leon - El Toxico (-1)
15. Jon Pardi - Tequila Little Time (=)
16. Maneskin - I Wanna Be Your Slave (-8)
17. Surf Curse - Freaks (+2)
18. Priscilla Block - Just About Over You (+5)
19. Grupo Firme - Ya Superame (debut)
20. YNW Melly - Take Kare (debut)
21. Sech & Jhay Cortez - 911 (=)
22. NLE Choppa - Mmm Hmm (debut)
23. Parker McCollum - To Be Loved By You (+1)
24. Tiesto & Karol G - Don't Be Shy (debut)
25. Evan Craft, Danny Gokey & Redimi2 - Be Alright (debut)

One nice thing about the astroturfed song getting removed is that this song was able to debut, so Evan Craft and Redimi2 were able to get their first charting entries. I really don't like the song, but still, good for them.

Side note: Danny Gokey notches his third song at #125. Is that a record?  sike the website glitched, he only has two #125 songs

[rihannabiggestfan]

Aug 25, 2021 10:23:34 GMT -5 bbdenney94 said:

Aug 24, 2021 11:58:06 GMT -5 Naos said:

Bubbling Under:
1. Anne Wilson - My Jesus (+10)
2. Jimmie Allen & Brad Paisley - Freedom Was a Highway (+9)
3. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Nevada (=)
4. Sub Urban & Bella Poarch - Inferno (debut)
5. Lady A - Like a Lady (-1)
6. blackbear - @ my worst (+6)
7. Maroon 5 - Lost (+3)
8. Wale - Angles (-2)
9. Blxst & Tyga - Chosen (+16)
10. Kodak Black & Rod Wave - Before I Go (debut)
11. J Balvin & Skrillex - In Da Getto (+7)
12. Zac Brown Band - Same Boat (-5)
13. Michael Ray - Whiskey and Rain (+4)
14. Grupo Firme & Carin Leon - El Toxico (-1)
15. Jon Pardi - Tequila Little Time (=)
16. Maneskin - I Wanna Be Your Slave (-8)
17. Surf Curse - Freaks (+2)
18. Priscilla Block - Just About Over You (+5)
19. Grupo Firme - Ya Superame (debut)
20. YNW Melly - Take Kare (debut)
21. Sech & Jhay Cortez - 911 (=)
22. NLE Choppa - Mmm Hmm (debut)
23. Parker McCollum - To Be Loved By You (+1)
24. Tiesto & Karol G - Don't Be Shy (debut)
25. Evan Craft, Danny Gokey & Redimi2 - Be Alright (debut)

One nice thing about the astroturfed song getting removed is that this song was able to debut, so Evan Craft and Redimi2 were able to get their first charting entries. I really don't like the song, but still, good for them.

Side note: Danny Gokey notches his third song at #125. Is that a record?

Isn't it Danny's second? This and You Are So Beautiful

[bbdenney94]

Aug 25, 2021 12:12:45 GMT -5 rihannabiggestfan said:

Aug 25, 2021 10:23:34 GMT -5 bbdenney94 said:

One nice thing about the astroturfed song getting removed is that this song was able to debut, so Evan Craft and Redimi2 were able to get their first charting entries. I really don't like the song, but still, good for them.

Side note: Danny Gokey notches his third song at #125. Is that a record?

Isn't it Danny's second? This and You Are So Beautiful

You are correct. For some reason, accessing Gokey's Bubbling Under page via Google duplicates You Are So Beautiful, so I mistakenly thought there were three entries.

[85la]

Aug 25, 2021 9:57:15 GMT -5 Choco said:

If I were Olivia I would have probably taken the Good 4 U thing to court. They sound similar as in "inspired by" or like how a lot of Pop songs sound similar, but it was not a "deja vu"/"Cruel Summer" thing where it sounds like the exact same thing in parts.

Nah, that wouldn't be a good move. She will miss out on some publishing revenue by giving them writing credit, however going to court would also be costly and time-consuming, and would bring a lot of negative publicity at this crucial point in her career where she is trying to establish her stardom, and the risk of losing is too great.

Having said that, this does raise some questions about her originality as a songwriter, as this is now the third song on just her first album that have been deemed very similar to other artist's songs.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Aug 25, 2021 13:40:24 GMT -5 85la said:

Aug 25, 2021 9:57:15 GMT -5 Choco said:

If I were Olivia I would have probably taken the Good 4 U thing to court. They sound similar as in "inspired by" or like how a lot of Pop songs sound similar, but it was not a "deja vu"/"Cruel Summer" thing where it sounds like the exact same thing in parts.

Nah, that wouldn't be a good move. She will miss out on some publishing revenue by giving them writing credit, however going to court would also be costly and time-consuming, and would bring a lot of negative publicity at this crucial point in her career where she is trying to establish her stardom, and the risk of losing is too great.

Having said that, this does raise some questions about her originality as a songwriter, as this is now the third song on just her first album that have been deemed very similar to other artist's songs.

While I agree with you that taking this to court would be a highly risky and expensive affair, respectfully disagree in the merits of her "originality as a songwriter" whatever that means.

Rregardless of what you think of Olivia, her art is hers and she should not be in trouble just because her influences are obvious. This isnt a case of Led Zeppelin admitting to intentionally stealing riffs from artists, this is a woman who grew up on Paramore and Taylor Swift and is making music similar to them.

Olivia is just one of thousands of examples in both contemporary and classic music. Even an artist as brazenly in your face like Greta Van Fleet, Robert Plant was never mad about them being a copycat. All music has a lineage line to past works and no artist should be ashamed.

[jenglisbe]

Aug 24, 2021 21:46:30 GMT -5 Clode said:

I mean was it really necessary for Hayley and Josh to get credited as songwriters on "Good 4 U", Like was this done in order to avoid a possible Lawsuit?

The songwriting lawsuits/credits are out of control IMO. Song has always been based in influence/tradition/borrowing. I think unless it's blatant stealing, let it go.

[nathanalbright]

Even when it is blatant stealing I think it is far better to openly acknowledge one's borrowing and give credit to the ones one borrowed/stole from, rather than to hide it and pretend as if one came across that sound first.

[singingrulebritannia]

Aug 25, 2021 13:54:09 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Aug 25, 2021 13:40:24 GMT -5 85la said:

Nah, that wouldn't be a good move. She will miss out on some publishing revenue by giving them writing credit, however going to court would also be costly and time-consuming, and would bring a lot of negative publicity at this crucial point in her career where she is trying to establish her stardom, and the risk of losing is too great.

Having said that, this does raise some questions about her originality as a songwriter, as this is now the third song on just her first album that have been deemed very similar to other artist's songs.

While I agree with you that taking this to court would be a highly risky and expensive affair, respectfully disagree in the merits of her "originality as a songwriter" whatever that means.

Rregardless of what you think of Olivia, her art is hers and she should not be in trouble just because her influences are obvious. This isnt a case of Led Zeppelin admitting to intentionally stealing riffs from artists, this is a woman who grew up on Paramore and Taylor Swift and is making music similar to them.

Olivia is just one of thousands of examples in both contemporary and classic music. Even an artist as brazenly in your face like Greta Van Fleet, Robert Plant was never mad about them being a copycat. All music has a lineage line to past works and no artist should be ashamed.

Also she's still a teenager, did anyone expect her to pull a The KLF and invent new genres on her first records lol

[Au$tin]

Aug 24, 2021 21:49:44 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

At this rate, we’ll all have a songwriting credit somewhere on the album.

Katy Perry about to get one for "brutal" since she says "teenage dream" in the verse.

[spiritboy]

Aug 25, 2021 15:53:14 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Aug 24, 2021 21:49:44 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

At this rate, we’ll all have a songwriting credit somewhere on the album.

Katy Perry about to get one for "brutal" since she says "teenage dream" in the verse.

That would be great since SOUR will win AOTY, Katy would've won her first Grammy. :kii:

[atg]

Aug 25, 2021 15:53:14 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Aug 24, 2021 21:49:44 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

At this rate, we’ll all have a songwriting credit somewhere on the album.

Katy Perry about to get one for "brutal" since she says "teenage dream" in the verse.

Ne-Yo also about to get one because she says “so sick” right before that line.

[Gary]

Artist 100 - most weeks at #1


Dating to the Artist 100's inception, only three acts have spent more time at No. 1 than BTS:
Taylor Swift (48 weeks),
Drake (32)
The Weeknd (22)

BTS (20)

[jenglisbe]

Aug 25, 2021 15:58:58 GMT -5 spiritboy said:

Aug 25, 2021 15:53:14 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Katy Perry about to get one for "brutal" since she says "teenage dream" in the verse.

That would be great since SOUR will win AOTY, Katy would've won her first Grammy. :kii:

LMAO!!!

Speaking of dumb rules...

[Limited Edition]

Aug 26, 2021 7:30:56 GMT -5 Codex said:

Aug 14, 2021 19:23:04 GMT -5 After Minutes said:

Maybe in the US but I genuinely think that Levitating may not even be one of the year's five biggest hits globally

It’s still top 10 on Global Spotify and it’s almost September… Future Nostalgia (the album) was already the 2nd most streamed album of 2020 globally. It’s nonsense to say that it’s success is at all US specific.

It's not US specific but it's possible Levitating won't even be top 3 on IFPI's list of the best selling worldwide hits of 2020. Drivers License (probably), Good 4 u (possibly) and Save Your Tears (possibly) can all be ahead of it. When you add a song like Stay which seems to be massive during the last months of 2021 (like Closer), it's not weird that Levitating doesn't feel like top 5 biggest WW hit of the year. I think it's top 5 though

[Choco]

I know Mediatraffic is flawed, but on the latest chart, "Levitating" is #9 while "drivers license" is #38. Both are at about 6 million points. Remember that US is included in any worldwide tracking chart and there "Levitating" is still #6 while DL is out of the chart.

"Save Your Tears" on the other hand is above "Levitating" and has more points, so it will moste likely end up ranking higher. "good 4 u" is above "Levitating" as well and outgaining it, but it has less points than the Dua song as of the latest chart. It will be close between those two.

"Bad Habits" and "STAY" are current threads but they need to mantain huge levels for what's left of the year to catch up to the tracks mentioned above.

[jodakyellow]

Aug 24, 2021 21:46:30 GMT -5 Clode said:

I mean was it really necessary for Hayley and Josh to get credited as songwriters on "Good 4 U", Like was this done in order to avoid a possible Lawsuit?

Olivia keeps doing this and either she (and/or her team) thinks it's just the right thing to do or it's being proactive against legal action, but I worry that it sets a bad precedent.  Surely there are songs that sound kinda like "Misery Business" that inspired Paramore, and so on... can't we just acknowledge that there's a finite amount of ways for a pop song to sound, and save the co-credits and legal stuff for actual copying?

(Or maybe "Good 4 U" really does sound exactly like "Misery Business" and I'm the only person who can't hear it? who knows.)