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Post by spiritboy on Dec 14, 2021 5:47:10 GMT -5
Regarding SZA, if it were up to her label, they would've released the album already. The last i heard she scrapped the album and started to re-record it and she was having problems with her record label. Maybe she's punishing them by delaying it?
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Post by Enigma. on Dec 14, 2021 6:04:53 GMT -5
One would think that TDE is a progressive and nice label for artists.
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Post by Future Captain on Dec 14, 2021 6:30:56 GMT -5
I dont have any of the Amazon products so I have no idea how it works, but what's the chance that amazon exclusives does that well bc they would always be prioritized whenever a command to "play Christmas songs" is made on an Echo or stuff like that?
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Dec 14, 2021 6:36:40 GMT -5
Notable Gains:
#23. Kodak Black - Super Gremlin (+32) *new peak*
#64. Doja Cat - Woman (+26)
#70. Polo G - Bad Man (Smooth Criminal) (+14)
Notable Losses:
#32. Michael Bublé - It's Beginning to Look a Lot like Christmas (-12)
#42. Taylor Swift - All Too Well (Taylor's Version) (-21)
#43. Måneskin - Beggin' (-11)
#47. Adele - Oh My God (-10)
#52. Jason Aldean and Carrie Underwood - If I Didn't Love You (-10)
#73. Zac Brown Band - Same Boat (-13)
#83. Meek Mill feat. Lil Baby and Lil Durk - Sharing Locations (-11)
#93. Priscilla Block - Just About Over You (-12)
#99. Wale feat. J. Cole - Poke It Out (-12)
Re-entries:
#20. Perry Como And The Fontane Sisters With Mitchell Ayres And His Orchestra - It's Beginning To Look A Lot Like Christmas
#80. Gunna and Future - Too Easy
Notable Dropouts:
Wild Side (20 weeks)
Baddest (17 weeks)
Volvi (17 weeks)
Moth to a Flame (6 weeks)
Biggest Gain in Airplay: Oh My God
Biggest Gain in Sales: abcdefu
Gained in Points:
#2. Mariah Carey - All I Want for Christmas is You (+1)
#3. Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree (+1)
#5. Burl Ives - A Holly Jolly Christmas (+2)
#6. Bobby Helms - Jingle Bell Rock (-1)
#9. Glass Animals - Heat Waves (-1)
#10. Andy Williams - It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year (+1)
#11. Ed Sheeran - Shivers (-2)
#12. Doja Cat - Need to Know (-2)
#13. Wham! - Last Christmas (+2)
#14. Jose Feliciano - Feliz Navidad (+2)
#15. GAYLE - abcdefu (+9) *new peak*
#17. The Ronettes - Sleigh Ride (+2)
#18. Dean Martin = Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow! (+4)
#20. Nat King Cole - The Christmas Song (-2)
#24. Kelly Clarkson - Underneath the Tree (+3)
#26. Andy Williams - Happy Holidays/The Holiday Season (+4)
#27. Gene Autry - Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer (+8)
#30. Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me (+6)
#34. Chuck Berry - Run Rudolph Run (+6)
#37. Perry Como - (There's No Place Like) Home for the Holidays (+9)
#40. Justin Bieber - Ghost (-1)
#44. Drake feat. 21 Savage and Project Pat - Knife Talk (-3)
#45. Dustin Lynch feat. Lauren Alaina and MacKenzie Porter (+4)
#46. Billie Eilish - Happier Than Ever (-2)
#47. Adele - Oh My God (-10)
#48. CKay - love nwantiti (ah ah ah) (-1)
#54. Nardo Wick feat. G Herbo, Lil Durk, and 21 Savage - Who Want Smoke?? (-1)
#56. Jordan Davis feat. Luke Bryan - Buy Dirt (-2)
#58. Chris Stapleton - You Should Probably Leave (-1)
#62. Morgan Wallen - Sand in My Boots (+2)
#63. Chloe - Have Mercy (-1)
#68. Kane Brown - One Mississippi (-3)
#69. Latto - Big Energy (+2) *new peak*
#71. Imagine Dragons and JID - Enemy (-2)
#74. Taylor Swift - Christmas Tree Farm (Old Timey Version) (+8) *new peak*
#79. Dan + Shay - Pick Out a Christmas Tree (+2)
#81. Cody Johnson - 'Til You Can't (+7)
#82. Taylor Swift - Message in a Bottle (-4)
#85. Giveon - For Tonight (=)
#89. Drake feat. Travis Scott - Fair Trade (-3)
#92. Kelsea Ballerini feat. Kenny Chesney - Half of My Hometown (+1)
#95. Eric Church - Heart on Fire (-3)
Top 10 Without Christmas Songs:
1. Easy On Me
2. STAY
3. I Hate U
4. INDUSTRY BABY
5. Heat Waves
6. Shivers
7. Need to Know
8. abcdefu
9. Bad Habits
10. Cold Heart
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Dec 14, 2021 6:37:55 GMT -5
One would think that TDE is a progressive and nice label for artists. RCA is her main label and distributer. She's not really contractually tied to TDE outside of doing guest features for actual TDE acts. |
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Post by gikem on Dec 14, 2021 6:42:43 GMT -5
Something tells me Billboard screwed up something with the two versions of It’s Beginning To Look A Lot Like Christmas this week. Pretty sure the Buble version should be #21 and the Como version should be #32.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Dec 14, 2021 7:03:20 GMT -5
Something tells me Billboard screwed up something with the two versions of It’s Beginning To Look A Lot Like Christmas this week. Pretty sure the Buble version should be #20 and the Como version should be #32. The Como version might have more airplay and streams on other platforms besides Spotify. on Spotify, the Buble version is higher but I don't know what the stats are on other websites. |
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Post by gikem on Dec 14, 2021 7:07:19 GMT -5
Something tells me Billboard screwed up something with the two versions of It’s Beginning To Look A Lot Like Christmas this week. Pretty sure the Buble version should be #20 and the Como version should be #32. The Como version might have more airplay and streams on other platforms besides Spotify. on Spotify, the Buble version is higher but I don't know what the stats are on other websites. No way any Christmas songs should be losing like that on a relatively normal week while another re-enters that high above several other staples. I genuinely think Billboard had a mix-up here. |
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Post by felipe on Dec 14, 2021 7:07:41 GMT -5
Not sure this is the right place to ask it but anyway.
I saw Adele is #1 on the Hot 100 and the Global 200 excluding US. Ok. So how come Mariah is #1 on the Global 200? I understand the Global 200 takes into account the US charts and the non-US charts, and Adele is #1 on both. Am I missing something?
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Post by Enigma. on Dec 14, 2021 7:37:19 GMT -5
Polo G's Album Bomb: Don't Play featuring Lil Baby (66) Young N Dumb (87) Start Up Again featuring MoneyBaggYo (94) Partin Ways (100)  |
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Dec 14, 2021 8:02:14 GMT -5
Notable Losses:
#42. Taylor Swift - All Too Well (Taylor's Version) (-21) Already outside the Top 40 in Week 4. It will probably fall outside the Top 75 next week, and be off the charts the following week. Unless Taylor's team makes a full push on radio, don't expect much of a recovery after Christmas. |
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Post by Verisimilitude on Dec 14, 2021 8:03:52 GMT -5
Not sure this is the right place to ask it but anyway. I saw Adele is #1 on the Hot 100 and the Global 200 excluding US. Ok. So how come Mariah is #1 on the Global 200? I understand the Global 200 takes into account the US charts and the non-US charts, and Adele is #1 on both. Am I missing something? Because the Global 200 doesn't include airplay while the Hot 100 does. |
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Post by 𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿 on Dec 14, 2021 8:11:54 GMT -5
It's worth noting that Dua Lipa's "Levitating" has gone recurrent after 60 weeks at the Hot 100, and "Save Your Tears" now notched a full year on the charts.
Which means next week's Christmas Billboard Hot 100 won't have this year's YE Top 2, another iconic and amazing Top 2 also backed up with insane longevity with 112 weeks on the Hot 100, not as high as last year's YE Top 2 ("Blinding Lights" and "Circles" that had a cumulative 151 weeks at Hot 100)
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 14, 2021 8:21:15 GMT -5
Butter managed to re-enter at #4 in Hot 100 Recurrents. Wild Side not only dropped out of the Hot 100, but didn't even manage to chart in Hot 100 Recurrents. And there's some competition among the holiday songs, with some of them actually having losses and some significant reshuffling in the Holiday 100. And yeah, the White Christmas Spotify fiasco continues to be rectified further for A Holly Jolly Christmas.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 14, 2021 8:22:30 GMT -5
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Dec 14, 2021 8:32:00 GMT -5
It's worth noting that Dua Lipa's "Levitating" has gone recurrent after 60 weeks at the Hot 100, and "Save Your Tears" now notched a full year on the charts. Which means next week's Christmas Billboard Hot 100 won't have this year's YE Top 2, another iconic and amazing Top 2 also backed up with insane longevity with 112 weeks on the Hot 100, not as high as last year's YE Top 2 ("Blinding Lights" and "Circles" that had a cumulative 151 weeks at Hot 100) Next week's Hot 100 will also be the first since 9/7/2019 to not feature any of Blinding Lights, Circles, Levitating, or Save Your Tears. |
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Post by Zeebz on Dec 14, 2021 8:45:12 GMT -5
Lol the posts in this thread have made me more sick of “Blinding Lights” than the overplay ever did. Please refrain from posting about it incessantly as it is currently not relevant to the Hot 100.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 14, 2021 9:02:49 GMT -5
Okay we really need to see how strong these Amazon exclusives are because how did this gain when it's only available on Amazon? Where is Taylor's song ranked on Amazon's chart? |
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Post by Verisimilitude on Dec 14, 2021 9:11:05 GMT -5
Okay we really need to see how strong these Amazon exclusives are because how did this gain when it's only available on Amazon? Where is Taylor's song ranked on Amazon's chart? At the moment, #22. Further proving that Amazon Music is by far the biggest streaming service for Christmas songs in the US and Kworb should add the charts to his website. |
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Post by velaxti on Dec 14, 2021 9:18:02 GMT -5
Next week's Christmas Billboard Hot 100 won't have this year's YE Top 2, another iconic and amazing Top 2 Surely almost all year-end top 2s are iconic by nature of how the whole thing works (having the most points in a 52 week period is always remarkable). Off the top of my head ones I remember are Party Rock Anthem/Rolling In the Deep, Somebody That I Used to Know/Call Me Maybe, Thrift Shop/Blurred Lines, Boom Boom Pow/Poker Face, etc. They always have to be sort of iconic. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 14, 2021 9:21:06 GMT -5
Where is Taylor's song ranked on Amazon's chart? At the moment, #22. Further proving that Amazon Music is by far the biggest streaming service for Christmas songs in the US and Kworb should add the charts to his website. It is definitely huge for Christmas music, but I don't know how much impact it has the other 46 weeks of the year. Having said that, Taylor's song is only #40 on Holiday Streaming Songs and #50 on the overall Holiday 100. It probably wouldn't make the Hot 100 if a lot of the songs above it weren't recurrent. The lowest ranked song on the Holiday 100 to be in the top 50 of the Hot 100 is "(There's No Place Like) Home for the Holidays" at #20. So, nearly 30 holiday songs are above Taylor's song but not on the Hot 100 because of recurrency rules. |
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Post by velaxti on Dec 14, 2021 9:23:50 GMT -5
In the UK a few years ago an Amazon exclusive Christmas song by Ellie Goulding went to #1.
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Post by gikem on Dec 14, 2021 9:30:50 GMT -5
New Entries: Juice WRLD & Justin Bieber - Wandered To LA (49) Nardo Wick, Lil Baby & Future - Me Or Sum (86) Camila Cabello - I'll Be Home For Christmas (97) Brent Faiyaz - Mercedes (98) Polo G's Album Bomb: Don't Play featuring Lil Baby (66) Young N Dumb (87) Start Up Again featuring MoneyBaggYo (94) Partin Ways (100) *I will edit if updates more new entries #72 Merry Christmas - Ed Sheeran & Elton John |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 14, 2021 10:01:16 GMT -5
In the UK a few years ago an Amazon exclusive Christmas song by Ellie Goulding went to #1. You mean River. That was only two years ago. |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Dec 14, 2021 10:24:52 GMT -5
Not sure why you're that surprised: new Christmas releases aren't streaming magnets the year they're released. Carrie Underwood's Christmas album last year didn't have much traction despite it selling well, neither have the slew of Christmas albums that've been released the past few weeks. The Jennifer x Mariah x Ariana Christmas collab from last year took DAYS after release to chart and it didn't even chart in the Top 100, it was always in the bottom half, and that song was actually being promoted heavily and hyped up on social media. I get that in a general sense, but she had a TV special last week and has done other promo. I expected it to help more than it apparently did, at least the Ariana duet since she's still pretty relevant. Well I guess you severely underestimated how much that Ariana duet was going to do since it's right at the bottom of the Bubbling Under chart |
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 14, 2021 10:32:18 GMT -5
I get that in a general sense, but she had a TV special last week and has done other promo. I expected it to help more than it apparently did, at least the Ariana duet since she's still pretty relevant. Well I guess you severely underestimated how much that Ariana duet was going to do since it's right at the bottom of the Bubbling Under chart Um, where did I give a prediction for you to be comparing that to? Anyway considering how many holiday songs aren't charting because of recurrency, that Bubbling Under position doesn't mean much. It's #90 on the Holiday 100. All I said is that I was surprised the songs weren't top 200 on Spotify. |
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Post by musicbuff26 on Dec 14, 2021 10:38:01 GMT -5
Non-holiday top 10:
1. Easy On Me
2. Stay
3. I Hate U
4. Industry Baby
5. Heat Waves
6. Shivers
7. Need to Know
8. abcdefu
9. Bad Habits
10. Cold Heart
Just helpful to see what the top 10 might look like after the New Year!
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Post by nathanalbright on Dec 14, 2021 12:34:58 GMT -5
I worry that these may be the only top tens that Cold Heart makes, but I hope I'm just being too pessimistic.
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Post by gikem on Dec 14, 2021 12:49:20 GMT -5
I worry that these may be the only top tens that Cold Heart makes, but I hope I'm just being too pessimistic. Its radio should catch up big-time after the holidays, so I’m not too concerned. |
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Dec 14, 2021 13:31:02 GMT -5
In the UK a few years ago an Amazon exclusive Christmas song by Ellie Goulding went to #1. You mean River. That was only two years ago. I could have sworn that was 4 years ago, and it was battling Perfect for #1. Then again, Perfect was on the charts for a long time, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it was still near the top of the UK charts a full 2 years later. |
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