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Post by musicbuff26 on Dec 12, 2021 11:59:31 GMT -5
Oh ok, I see now it's her fans being too sensitive. All I said is that it doesn't look like "OMG" will be a big hit. That's it. I didn't say anything about her album sales and so forth, yet now it's become a thing it seems. OMG was a massive hit. It was #1 for like 4 weeks. Totally forgot about that song. Probably Ushers’ most forgettable #1 lol |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Dec 12, 2021 12:34:18 GMT -5
Oh ok, I see now it's her fans being too sensitive. All I said is that it doesn't look like "OMG" will be a big hit. That's it. I didn't say anything about her album sales and so forth, yet now it's become a thing it seems. Literally all they're doing is countering your argument. That's how a discussion works. You seem to be the sensitive one here. I mean, you originally said it had a bad peak and when someone corrected you that it has a top 5 peak, you moved the goal posts to weeks in the top ten even though you never stated that to begin with. I’m still confused about the suggestion that 21 was the only Adele album to have more than one big hit. Send My Love wasn’t massive like Hello but it’s not like it barely existed. |
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Post by kingvavis on Dec 12, 2021 12:43:11 GMT -5
OMG was a massive hit. It was #1 for like 4 weeks. Totally forgot about that song. Probably Ushers’ most forgettable #1 lol Love In This Club exists |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 12, 2021 13:16:42 GMT -5
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Post by JukeboxJacob on Dec 12, 2021 14:58:16 GMT -5
Oh My God will be a be a lasting top 10 hit for one reason - it's catchy af. A song this catchy just needs the exposure (which it's getting) and it'll take off.
Also, since someone brought up Usher's song, Oh My God > OMG
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Post by fridayteenage on Dec 12, 2021 15:02:25 GMT -5
omg seems likely to get a lot of radio spamming at least like send my love.
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Post by dovahduck on Dec 12, 2021 15:35:18 GMT -5
I know the anglosphere may not have really listened to him but the Latinx community just lost this legend:
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Post by spiritboy on Dec 12, 2021 15:49:56 GMT -5
I think we should give Oh My God some time before declaring a big hit or not. EOM is still huge in US, maybe they'll give the song proper push (like a MV and maybe a performance somewhere) when it starts to die down.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 12, 2021 17:57:38 GMT -5
Oh ok, I see now it's her fans being too sensitive. All I said is that it doesn't look like "OMG" will be a big hit. That's it. I didn't say anything about her album sales and so forth, yet now it's become a thing it seems. Literally all they're doing is countering your argument. That's how a discussion works. You seem to be the sensitive one here. I mean, you originally said it had a bad peak and when someone corrected you that it has a top 5 peak, you moved the goal posts to weeks in the top ten even though you never stated that to begin with. Not quite as I consider #5 to be just an ok peak for Adele, but regardless none of that has to do with album sales so... Literally all they're doing is countering your argument. That's how a discussion works. You seem to be the sensitive one here. I mean, you originally said it had a bad peak and when someone corrected you that it has a top 5 peak, you moved the goal posts to weeks in the top ten even though you never stated that to begin with. I’m still confused about the suggestion that 21 was the only Adele album to have more than one big hit. Send My Love wasn’t massive like Hello but it’s not like it barely existed. I didn't realize the only two options were big hit or barely existing? But you admit "Send My Love" wasn't massive, so I guess you get it. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 12, 2021 18:30:09 GMT -5
I know the anglosphere may not have really listened to him but the Latinx community just lost this legend: Not only that but a lot of people in Latin America as well. Also, the fact that today is the day of Mexico's patron saint, Our Lady of Guadalupe, seems to be a fitting coincidence as well. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Dec 12, 2021 18:40:15 GMT -5
Literally all they're doing is countering your argument. That's how a discussion works. You seem to be the sensitive one here. I mean, you originally said it had a bad peak and when someone corrected you that it has a top 5 peak, you moved the goal posts to weeks in the top ten even though you never stated that to begin with. Not quite as I consider #5 to be just an ok peak for Adele, but regardless none of that has to do with album sales so... I’m still confused about the suggestion that 21 was the only Adele album to have more than one big hit. Send My Love wasn’t massive like Hello but it’s not like it barely existed. I didn't realize the only two options were big hit or barely existing? But you admit "Send My Love" wasn't massive, so I guess you get it. It was pretty big tho! |
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Post by mylo on Dec 12, 2021 19:09:32 GMT -5
It's been charting for 2 weeks and Pulse is already arguing over how big a hit Oh My God is? Dafuk?
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Post by Gary on Dec 12, 2021 19:11:02 GMT -5
It will bounce back
The album and singles are doing fine
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Post by fridayteenage on Dec 12, 2021 19:16:34 GMT -5
sml peaked 19 in streaming and 10 in sales.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 12, 2021 19:17:36 GMT -5
sml peaked 19 in streaming and 10 in sales. So, not a big hit. |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Dec 12, 2021 19:30:34 GMT -5
People still care about chart peaks in 2021? Yeah, When We Were Young peaked at #14, but the song has almost 850M on Spotify and I think it's currently her 2nd most listened old song after RITD. but I guess that's not a big deal, since it didn't peak in the top 2.
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Post by rimetm on Dec 12, 2021 19:32:31 GMT -5
sml peaked 19 in streaming and 10 in sales. So, not a big hit. It was the #26 song of 2016. Would you say the songs adjacent to it, The Chainsmokers' "Roses" and Major Lazer's "Cold Water", weren't big hits? Would you say there were 25 or fewer big hits in 2016? It feels like you're just dragging this out to get a rise out of people. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2021 19:34:13 GMT -5
It was the #26 song of 2016. Would you say the songs adjacent to it, The Chainsmokers' "Roses" and Major Lazer's "Cold Water", weren't big hits? Would you say there were 25 or fewer big hits in 2016? It feels like you're just dragging this out to get a rise out of people. Don't forget it is also part of an album which sold over 10 million copies! |
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Post by magik on Dec 12, 2021 20:09:06 GMT -5
Are we really dooming a new song when we are in the middle of the Christmas season? If OMG doesn't pick up in streaming after Christmas (realistically the second week in January), then we can worry. We also need to consider the boost a bunch of old songs are going to get thanks to year-end playlisting on radio and streaming. It's odd that people are so quick to doom everything Adele has done this era. "Easy on Me" is proving people wrong, but that doesn't seem to stop people from dooming everything else she has done or will do.
Where does OMG stand without the Christmas overload? That should be the question.
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Post by atg on Dec 12, 2021 20:09:53 GMT -5
People still care about chart peaks in 2021? Yeah, When We Were Young peaked at #14, but the song has almost 900M on Spotify and I think it's currently her 2nd most listened old song after RITD. but I guess that's not a big deal, since it didn't peak in the top 2. Peaks shouldn’t matter at all especially on the hot 100. My fav example of this is Billie Ellish and Khalid’s lovely. I don’t recall it ever reaching the top 50 let alone sticking around on the charts yet is on track to reach 2 billion streams on Spotify and is both one of their top 2 most streamed tracks ever. In fact the song wasn’t even that big worldwide, only peaking in the top 5 in 2 countries. |
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Post by Groovy on Dec 12, 2021 20:25:45 GMT -5
You can make several examples of peaks not equalling popularity one that I'm gonna make is Post Malone, Psycho managed to top the charts in 2018 but you're not gonna convince me that it is bigger than some of his songs that didn't peak at 1 such as Better Now, Wow and Congratulations.
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Dec 12, 2021 20:31:48 GMT -5
It's odd that people are so quick to doom everything Adele has done this era. "Easy on Me" is proving people wrong I remember most of us thought EOM will be at #1 for 3-4 weeks, and now there's a possibility it'll be the first female song to spend at least 9 weeks at #1 since good 4 u Hello. |
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Post by kimberly on Dec 12, 2021 20:57:33 GMT -5
It's odd that people are so quick to doom everything Adele has done this era. "Easy on Me" is proving people wrong I remember most of us thought EOM will be at #1 for 3-4 weeks, and now there's a possibility it'll be the first female song to spend at least 9 weeks at #1 since good 4 u Hello. yeah I think my prediction was 3-5 weeks, which it has already surpassed. it's a multi-format smash on radio and its streaming hasn't deteriorated at the rate I thought it might after seeing how quickly its numbers fell back down to earth from its astronomical debut. I still think her album bomb was kind of weak—only one song debuted in the Top 10 and another in the Top 20. however, she's holding up remarkably well at #1 considering a lot of her peers (Taylor Swift, Beyoncé, Lady Gaga) either haven't had solo chart-toppers in a decade, or had zero longevity in the upper echelon of the Hot 100 after debuting at #1. other popular female artists from when Adele broke through like Katy Perry, Kesha, and Rihanna haven't been relevant to the Hot 100 discussions since 2017 (for different reasons). so I'd say 30's performance on the Hot 100 is just fine—neither a great showing nor a massive underperformance. |
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Post by magik on Dec 12, 2021 21:10:51 GMT -5
Has anyone had a massive album bomb this year, besides Drake? Juice WRLD's album bomb looks to be quite weak as well. And although Drake would have done quite well either way, all of his songs had a radio deal at the time. I guess you can say Olivia Rodrigo had one, but in general, album bombs have not been big.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 12, 2021 21:16:24 GMT -5
Has anyone had a massive album bomb this year, besides Drake? Juice WRLD's album bomb looks to be quite weak as well. And although Drake would have done quite well either way, all of his songs had a radio deal at the time. I guess you can say Olivia Rodrigo had one, but in general, album bombs have not been big. How did Olivia Rodrigo not have one? As in, "I guess" implies doubt. |
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Post by magik on Dec 12, 2021 21:21:38 GMT -5
Has anyone had a massive album bomb this year, besides Drake? Juice WRLD's album bomb looks to be quite weak as well. And although Drake would have done quite well either way, all of his songs had a radio deal at the time. I guess you can say Olivia Rodrigo had one, but in general, album bombs have not been big. How did Olivia Rodrigo not have one? As in, "I guess" implies doubt. Because I didn't pay much attention to her release. So, I take it that there was...? But other than Drake and Olivia, were there any other notable album bombs in 2021? |
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Post by gikem on Dec 12, 2021 21:27:51 GMT -5
How did Olivia Rodrigo not have one? As in, "I guess" implies doubt. Because I didn't pay much attention to her release. So, I take it that there was...? But other than Drake and Olivia, were there any other notable album bombs in 2021? J. Cole (5/29), Kanye (9/11), and Taylor (11/27) come to mind. None of these really had long-lasting hits (although the jury’s still out on ATW), but they absolutely swept the Hot 100 clean of old hits. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 12, 2021 21:34:59 GMT -5
^Arguably, the two next biggest album bombs on the Hot 100 came from The Off-Season (four top 10 Hot 100 debuts, plus nine songs in the top 20 and all 12 songs in the top 33) and Sour (three songs in the top 10, plus nine songs in the top 20 and all 11 songs in the top 29). Donda gets an asterisk from me, since it got more songs in the Hot 100 (23), but only two of them were in the top 10, seven in the top 20 and twelve in the top 40. Red (TV) is definitely in the top 10 album bombs, but further down with twenty-six songs in the Hot 100, but only, two songs in the top 10, three in the top 20 and four in the top 40. For the sake of comparison, 30 also got two in the top 10, three in the top 20, six in the top 40 and twelve in the top 56.
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Post by magik on Dec 12, 2021 21:37:40 GMT -5
Because I didn't pay much attention to her release. So, I take it that there was...? But other than Drake and Olivia, were there any other notable album bombs in 2021? J. Cole (5/29), Kanye (9/11), and Taylor (11/27) come to mind. None of these really had long-lasting hits (although the jury’s still out on ATW), but they absolutely swept the Hot 100 clean of old hits. Adele's 30 did the same thing. All tracks debuted in the top 60 and made some songs go recurrent. But I think it performed similarly to those artists (Taylor and Kanye) you mentioned. I just think we should now give realistic expectations for Adele. 21 and 25 were ten years ago and six years ago, respectively. If Adele can manage a multiplatinum album and another hit, then I'd consider that a huge success for her. I think this goes back to the Ed Sheeran argument in the other thread (?). The same would apply to him. |
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Post by Groovy on Dec 12, 2021 21:58:02 GMT -5
Lil Nas X had an album bomb too
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