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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Jan 25, 2022 14:59:28 GMT -5
Does anyone have the bubbling under chart ?
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Post by magik on Jan 25, 2022 15:07:02 GMT -5
The fact that EOM is top 10 in each metric, but people still find a way to discredit it and compare it to "Butter" is hilarious. I didn't realize that EOM was basically in the top 10 of each metric each week except the most obvious week.
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Post by fridayteenage on Jan 25, 2022 15:10:20 GMT -5
top 10 in each metric merits t10, yes.
being #1 on spotify/sales/streams merits #1.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 25, 2022 15:16:53 GMT -5
The fact that EOM is top 10 in each metric, but people still find a way to discredit it and compare it to "Butter" is hilarious. I didn't realize that EOM was basically in the top 10 of each metric each week except the most obvious week. It's a decent #1, but barely hanging in the top 10 of streaming is not exactly a dominant #1. I think the point some of us are making is its stats don't suggest a 10-14 week #1. That is not the same thing as saying it isn't doing well. (I also realize this is separate from someone comparing it to "Butter").
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Post by magik on Jan 25, 2022 15:33:52 GMT -5
The fact that EOM is top 10 in each metric, but people still find a way to discredit it and compare it to "Butter" is hilarious. I didn't realize that EOM was basically in the top 10 of each metric each week except the most obvious week. It's a decent #1, but barely hanging in the top 10 of streaming is not exactly a dominant #1. I think the point some of us are making is its stats don't suggest a 10-14 week #1. That is not the same thing as saying it isn't doing well. (I also realize this is separate from someone comparing it to "Butter"). It doesn't matter if it's a "dominant #1." It has earned every bit of its weeks at #1, and it's not her fault that the competition is weak. I'm pretty sure if you break down the songs with the most weeks at #1, there are a ton of them who had less dominant weeks at #1. Every #1 is relative due to its competition and other factors. Comparing its situation to "Butter" is a bunch of stupidity.
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Post by magik on Jan 25, 2022 15:37:59 GMT -5
top 10 in each metric merits t10, yes. being #1 on spotify/sales/streams merits #1. To you. Not to Billboard, which is what matters in the end... obviously.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jan 25, 2022 15:50:11 GMT -5
How is this a conversation every week? If a song that has accumulated the most points across the metrics despite not leading in any of them not deserving of number one, what is?
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 25, 2022 15:57:45 GMT -5
Can someone point me to the post/s where it was stated "EOM" doesn't deserve to be #1? I missed it and want to see how this discussion flowed.
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Post by fridayteenage on Jan 25, 2022 15:59:22 GMT -5
How is this a conversation every week? If a song that has accumulated the most points across the metrics despite not leading in any of them not deserving of number one, what is? No, it's leading in radio, coming for 10th week, double any of its other metrics.
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Post by magik on Jan 25, 2022 16:00:16 GMT -5
It's easy to look up the definition of "implication." And it doesn't take much to scroll up, like two posts.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jan 25, 2022 16:01:21 GMT -5
Can someone point me to the post/s where it was stated "EOM" doesn't deserve to be #1? I missed it and want to see how this discussion flowed. Oh right. Sorry. I wasn’t precise enough for you to find something else to be nitpicky over.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 25, 2022 16:03:44 GMT -5
It's easy to look up the definition of "implication." And it doesn't take much to scroll up, like two posts. I looked at the previous 2-3 pages and didn't see anyone write that it wasn't deserving, but I also know the conversation went on longer.
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Post by magik on Jan 25, 2022 16:05:18 GMT -5
It's really not that hard to point out, and considering this Taylor stan has posted the same mess for weeks, just in different ways, it really shouldn't be that hard. But there you go. top 10 in each metric merits t10, yes. being #1 on spotify/sales/streams merits #1.
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Post by JukeboxJacob on Jan 25, 2022 17:11:06 GMT -5
18. Oh My God: Coming back for top 10! 30. Fingers Crossed (-11): Haha 39. Meet Me At Our Spot (+10): Todd In The Shadows' influence (joking) 40 & 41. One Mississippi & If I Didn't Love You: The 2 best country songs currently charting IMO 77. Have Mercy: It's safe to say this peaked now
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Post by 85la on Jan 25, 2022 19:09:07 GMT -5
“Surface Pressure” is the seventh song from an animated Disney movie to hit the top ten. “Beauty and the Beast”: #9 (1992) “A Whole New World”: #1 (1993) “Can You Feel the Love Tonight”: #4 (1994) “Colors of the Wind”: #4 (1995) “Let It Go”: #5 (2014) “We Don’t Talk About Bruno”: #2 (2022) “Surface Pressure”: #10 (2022) Backtracking on the topic a bit here, but another song is Linda Ronstadt and James Ingram's "Somewhere Out There," which reached #2 from the 1986 animated movie An American Tail, only it wasn't Disney. Not sure if there are other non-Disney animated movie songs, and wondering why they chose to limit it to only Disney? They have made most major animated films throughout history, but not all.
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Jan 25, 2022 19:35:15 GMT -5
It would be pretty foolish and inaccurate to say EOM doesn't deserve it's place at number one.
But it's equally as foolish to pretend to not understand what's being stated. Easy On Me is heading into it's 12th week at number one, which would be FIFTEEN with no Christmas songs affecting it's reign.
For the most popular non Christmas song for the last 4 months, you'd expect it to be doing insane streams in this day and age. But it's not. That's the whole point lol.
It's certainly earned it's 12 weeks but it's certainly not been a STRONG run.
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Post by Caviar on Jan 25, 2022 19:59:56 GMT -5
Next week will be 11 weeks, not 12. It’s unlikely to make it to 12 weeks though but her domination has been delicious to watch.
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Jan 25, 2022 20:03:29 GMT -5
Rip. Well take what I said and take away one 💀. I mean is Bruno set to take it down on 2/12?
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Post by Future Captain on Jan 25, 2022 20:07:10 GMT -5
Rip. Well take what I said and take away one 💀. I mean is Bruno set to take it down on 2/12? if both Bruno and EOM continues it's current trajectory, Bruno will either dethrone EOM in 2/12 or 2/19 chart. But of course, it's also possible that Bruno will plateau this week and start falling instead of continuing its growth, allowing EOM to get up to 14 weeks or so.
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Jan 25, 2022 20:24:37 GMT -5
I mean the fact that it's become a hit at all is honestly shocking and it's continued chokehold on Spotify is wild to watch so it eventually being number one would just be the next natural step lol
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Post by Gary on Jan 25, 2022 21:04:46 GMT -5
"Easy On Me" I guess is the Pulse "Butter" of 2022
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 25, 2022 21:36:58 GMT -5
18. Oh My God: Coming back for top 10! This one is even more airplay driven than "EOM." It isn't top 30 in streaming, yet it's top 20 on Hot 100.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jan 25, 2022 21:56:35 GMT -5
18. Oh My God: Coming back for top 10! This one is even more airplay driven than "EOM." It isn't top 30 in streaming, yet it's top 20 on Hot 100. Oh My God is even starting to stall on radio. This is going to struggle to even make it to 20 weeks.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jan 25, 2022 23:14:42 GMT -5
jeng- the conversation, I think, stemmed from a post(s) that suggested "Easy on Me" wasn't a strong/deserving No. 1 because it was so airplay-fueled.
I guess someone could argue that any track so dominant in one metric, and less so in others, would not be deserving of No. 1. Like, if "We Don't Talk About Bruno" hits No. 1, do we really think some won't think a track with such little airplay - we're talking about less than 500,000 audience impressions for its No. 2 rank this week - should lead the chart? In the end, ya can't satisfy everybody, and the track with the best overall showing, per chart rules, will prevail, as always.
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Post by JukeboxJacob on Jan 26, 2022 0:36:53 GMT -5
18. Oh My God: Coming back for top 10! This one is even more airplay driven than "EOM." It isn't top 30 in streaming, yet it's top 20 on Hot 100. "Airplay driven" - meaning people are still hearing it... and liking it. Haven't you read the multiple radio = relevant discussions we've had lately? Or does your distaste for Adele overpower your ability to read and learn? Why do you even dislike Adele so much in the first place? lol When you reply to this, please put it all in one concise post, instead of trying to drag it out and clogging a whole page of the thread b/c I won't entertain it
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Post by Choco on Jan 26, 2022 1:51:21 GMT -5
OMG isn't exactly setting radio on fire right now either. It could really go either way.
Adele isn't one to play the singles game that much so I don't think she'll care enough to promote it much. I'd expect a similar deal to what the non-Hello singles from 25 got.
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Post by jamatthews83 on Jan 26, 2022 2:13:21 GMT -5
Debuts this week: #88 Jason Aldean - Trouble with a Heartbreak 73 spots lower than the If I Didn't Love You debut.
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Post by Enigma. on Jan 26, 2022 3:10:58 GMT -5
So, Sacrifice is the third highest The Weeknd song this week already... The timing couldn't be more wrong for the album tbh
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Post by firefox on Jan 26, 2022 3:22:46 GMT -5
Debuts this week: #88 Jason Aldean - Trouble with a Heartbreak 73 spots lower than the If I Didn't Love You debut. Carrie Underwood carried that song.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jan 26, 2022 6:06:29 GMT -5
The fact that Sacrifice is lower than Save Your Tears is a little sad, but that -12 drop isn't horrible. At least One Right Now seems to be holding pretty tight, until pop radio drops it then it's all down hill but we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
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