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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 26, 2022 9:28:13 GMT -5
This one is even more airplay driven than "EOM." It isn't top 30 in streaming, yet it's top 20 on Hot 100. "Airplay driven" - meaning people are still hearing it... and liking it. Haven't you read the multiple radio = relevant discussions we've had lately? Or does your distaste for Adele overpower your ability to read and learn? Why do you even dislike Adele so much in the first place? lol When you reply to this, please put it all in one concise post, instead of trying to drag it out and clogging a whole page of the thread b/c I won't entertain it Why do you have to be so condescending? ;) I don't dislike Adele, that's an assumption you have made. Me stating a fact - her current singles are receiving the majority of their chart points from airplay - is not the same as whether or not I like someone. If anything you are letting your distaste for something overpower your ability to read and comprehend, but then it's normal for what you interpret in others to more so be revealing about yourself.
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Post by mylo on Jan 26, 2022 10:54:04 GMT -5
Why do you have to be so condescending?
Bit rich coming from you ngl
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Post by Gary on Jan 26, 2022 11:34:25 GMT -5
Well... Adele's "Army" is doing its job LOL
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jan 26, 2022 11:35:53 GMT -5
More like Adele’s payola army, since it’s being radio driven.
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Post by Gary on Jan 26, 2022 11:47:34 GMT -5
Either way - radio is a measure of popularity
Not everyone - streams as a means of "consuming" music
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 26, 2022 13:20:22 GMT -5
Why do you have to be so condescending? Bit rich coming from you ngl Hence the ;) in my post. That was a reference to a past discussion, but I guess you felt a need to jump in on something of which you didn't have knowledge.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jan 26, 2022 13:25:48 GMT -5
Oh my god is doing so much better than when we were young did and I don’t remember this narrative being forced back then.
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Post by Music Fan on Jan 26, 2022 13:44:48 GMT -5
"OH NO AN ARTIST'S SECOND SINGLE IS BARELY HITTING TOP 50 ON STREAMING AND SALES BECAUSE THAT SAME ARTIST STILL HAS THE #1 SONG IN THE COUNTRY. WHAT A FLOP!"
This literal conversation makes no sense to me. Not everyone can have simultaneous Top 10 on everything, including Adele. OMG may or may not outlive EOM. But we can't really determine OMG's power until EOM starts actually drastically falling in all metrics to the point were OMG has an opportunity to shine or bust up in flames.
Regardless, a Top 5 peak on debut week and returning to Top 20 is more than some of your faves have achieved recently. So, I don't think Adele minds either way.
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Post by spiritboy on Jan 26, 2022 13:56:05 GMT -5
How can people claim EOM is radio driven when it's still in top 10 on Spotify US? Clearly people like and stream the song.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 26, 2022 15:17:23 GMT -5
How can people claim EOM is radio driven when it's still in top 10 on Spotify US? Clearly people like and stream the song. If a song is #1 in streaming and #10 at radio, would you disagree if someone said that song is streams-driven? Saying something is FITB driven doesn't mean it isn't doing anything else, it just means that metric is its primary source of chart points. It is factually true that more than 50% of the chart points for "EOM" are coming from airplay.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jan 26, 2022 15:23:14 GMT -5
So why does it feel like it’s being said with a negative connotation? Or am I the only one misinterpreting something?
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Post by kimberly on Jan 26, 2022 15:46:05 GMT -5
I think the disconnect comes from the sheer number of weeks "Easy on Me" has/will have spent at No. 1 by the end of its chart run. Because in honesty, it feels nowhere near as dominant as "Despacito" or "Old Town Road," so if it manages to float past the 15-week mark, it will be the odd one out.
That said, while "Easy on Me" is a relatively weak number-one hit purely based on its chart points in its more recent weeks, it is still the biggest song in the country. This is kind of like how "34+35" was No. 1 on Spotify after last holiday season with like 750k daily streams. It's nowhere near the biggest-song-ever, but it is the current number-one.
"Easy on Me" is also a relatively secure number-one hit, performing well across all three Hot 100 components. Radio does love some Adele, sure, and the holiday freeze did carry it over nicely into the new year, but at the same time it's been consistent on Spotify and Apple Music, as well as whatever relevance digital sales have these days.
Overall, this discussion is so extremely boring. Most of us expected "Easy on Me" to crash after a couple weeks at the top and a few more in the top ten, and the truth can often be a hard pill to swallow. Virtually no one predicted this would become her longest-running number-one hit. We were wrong!
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jan 26, 2022 16:38:24 GMT -5
^True. I didn't have expectations one way or another RE the length of reign for EOM, though am pleased to see it perform as it has.
And, jeesh, phieagles really has it in for Ms. Atkins and this smash hit, eh?
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jan 26, 2022 17:12:22 GMT -5
^True. I didn't have expectations one way or another RE the length of reign for EOM, though am pleased to see it perform as it has. And, jeesh, phieagles really has it in for Ms. Atkins and this smash hit, eh? I might have complained about it weeks ago, but I’ve already moved on from this like every other normal person. fridayteenage is the only one that’s still complaining about EOM’s run at #1.
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Post by Gary on Jan 26, 2022 18:34:15 GMT -5
LOL - this whole discussion is far from normal
Easy on Me is 9 weeks at #1 on radio but only spent half that time at #1 on streaming - so it is a bigger hit at radio - I agree
question is -- so?
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Post by Choco on Jan 26, 2022 18:34:33 GMT -5
Overall, this discussion is so extremely boring. Most of us expected "Easy on Me" to crash after a couple weeks at the top and a few more in the top ten, and the truth can often be a hard pill to swallow. Virtually no one predicted this would become her longest-running number-one hit. We were wrong! This 150%. Would love if this allowed us to move on to some other topics. I think there's truth in both "Easy on Me" being relatively weak on a weak market and it still being a huge win for Adele. I'd say EOM is performing much better than 30 itself by comparison.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jan 26, 2022 18:40:20 GMT -5
Overall, this discussion is so extremely boring. Most of us expected "Easy on Me" to crash after a couple weeks at the top and a few more in the top ten, and the truth can often be a hard pill to swallow. Virtually no one predicted this would become her longest-running number-one hit. We were wrong! This 150%. Would love if this allowed us to move on to some other topics. I think there's truth in both "Easy on Me" being relatively weak on a weak market and it still being a huge win for Adele. I'd say EOM is performing much better than 30 itself by comparison. EOM is performing much better than Hello was at this point in its run, Hello had huge radio and streaming at launch but the massive hyped caused it to burn on people really fast and the song was off the Hot 100 by mid-April. I expect EOM to stick around much longer than Hello, even after it falls from the #1 spot. It's obviously still connecting with people since it's Top 10 on Spotify.
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Post by Gary on Jan 26, 2022 18:41:43 GMT -5
Being radio friendly helps too
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Post by Caviar on Jan 26, 2022 19:23:36 GMT -5
Did the Mediabase audience gains come from Country? When I saw that I knew there would be meltdowns from certain posters.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 26, 2022 19:50:32 GMT -5
^Maybe. That's the duet version with Chris Stapleton entering the country airplay top 50 based on spins. Based on audience, though, it would be top 40, above I Bet You Think About Me.
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Post by Choco on Jan 26, 2022 22:02:23 GMT -5
This 150%. Would love if this allowed us to move on to some other topics. I think there's truth in both "Easy on Me" being relatively weak on a weak market and it still being a huge win for Adele. I'd say EOM is performing much better than 30 itself by comparison. EOM is performing much better than Hello was at this point in its run, Hello had huge radio and streaming at launch but the massive hyped caused it to burn on people really fast and the song was off the Hot 100 by mid-April. I expect EOM to stick around much longer than Hello, even after it falls from the #1 spot. It's obviously still connecting with people since it's Top 10 on Spotify. Yeah. Hello departed at under 30 weeks total. (Was it 26?). This is already nearing 20 weeks and still #1.
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Post by Future Captain on Jan 26, 2022 23:21:17 GMT -5
This 150%. Would love if this allowed us to move on to some other topics. I think there's truth in both "Easy on Me" being relatively weak on a weak market and it still being a huge win for Adele. I'd say EOM is performing much better than 30 itself by comparison. EOM is performing much better than Hello was at this point in its run, Hello had huge radio and streaming at launch but the massive hyped caused it to burn on people really fast and the song was off the Hot 100 by mid-April. I expect EOM to stick around much longer than Hello, even after it falls from the #1 spot. It's obviously still connecting with people since it's Top 10 on Spotify. Not necessarily, I think (?). At this same point of time in their run, Hello is #5 in Sales, #3 in Streaming, and #2 in Radio, also notable is that Hello is not in on-demand streaming services until it already dropped out of the chart. Comparatively Easy On Me is #7 in Sales, #9 in Streaming, and #1 in Radio. This is not to discredit Easy On Me, of course, just that comparing it to Hello in term of chart performance isn't exactly apples to apples considering Hello had far stronger competition and had major disadvantages to it's longevity.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 27, 2022 13:31:13 GMT -5
EOM is performing much better than Hello was at this point in its run, Hello had huge radio and streaming at launch but the massive hyped caused it to burn on people really fast and the song was off the Hot 100 by mid-April. I expect EOM to stick around much longer than Hello, even after it falls from the #1 spot. It's obviously still connecting with people since it's Top 10 on Spotify. Not necessarily, I think (?). At this same point of time in their run, Hello is #5 in Sales, #3 in Streaming, and #2 in Radio, also notable is that Hello is not in on-demand streaming services until it already dropped out of the chart. Comparatively Easy On Me is #7 in Sales, #9 in Streaming, and #1 in Radio. This is not to discredit Easy On Me, of course, just that comparing it to Hello in term of chart performance isn't exactly apples to apples considering Hello had far stronger competition and had major disadvantages to it's longevity. This is very relevant information that shouldn't be overlooked.
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Post by 85la on Jan 27, 2022 14:15:37 GMT -5
Not necessarily, I think (?). At this same point of time in their run, Hello is #5 in Sales, #3 in Streaming, and #2 in Radio, also notable is that Hello is not in on-demand streaming services until it already dropped out of the chart. Comparatively Easy On Me is #7 in Sales, #9 in Streaming, and #1 in Radio. This is not to discredit Easy On Me, of course, just that comparing it to Hello in term of chart performance isn't exactly apples to apples considering Hello had far stronger competition and had major disadvantages to it's longevity. This is very relevant information that shouldn't be overlooked. Yeah, although Hello was actually available on Spotify and other On-Demand streaming services since it first came out. It was just the whole album that wasn't released to streaming until several months later.
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Post by nathanalbright on Jan 28, 2022 2:18:02 GMT -5
Time to lock this one I assume?
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Post by Future Captain on Jan 28, 2022 7:15:36 GMT -5
This is very relevant information that shouldn't be overlooked. Yeah, although Hello was actually available on Spotify and other On-Demand streaming services since it first came out. It was just the whole album that wasn't released to streaming until several months later. whoops, my bad
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Post by Groovy on Jan 28, 2022 13:45:43 GMT -5
Surprisingly, this thread still isn’t locked.
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