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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jan 14, 2022 11:29:23 GMT -5
Itβs odd to me how people consider radio numbers to be in opposition of other metrics, as if theyβre holding certain songs ahead (or back), but we need to remember that a vast number of people (still) listen to radio and hear their music that way. Sure, they donβt purposely seek these songs out and yeah, the audience numbers may not be what they once were, but in the grand scheme of things, this audience counts so why are people constantly framing them in such a poor light? If radio is whatβs keeping βEasy On Meβ at number one, then βEasy On Meβ is being heard by a hell of a lot more people than βBrunoβ is, even if the latter is being talked about more on social media. Social media conversations (particularly around music) represent a limited range of people that are listening to music. Donβt let it fool you.
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Post by iHype. on Jan 14, 2022 11:32:33 GMT -5
Like I said a few weeks ago, this is actually pretty similar to the period when One Sweet Day/Exhale/Hey Lover all became the longest #1, #2, and #3 running songs ever because it was just static at the top of the charts with no new hits for a whole quarter. How many weeks were they the exact top 3? Wasn't "Gangsta's Paradise" #4 or #5 most of that time, too? I know TLC released a single in that time, but it was a fourth single so...Madonna had "You'll See" drop around then, but it wasn't a long lasting hit. 1995-12-02 1 One Sweet Day - Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men 2 Exhale (Shoop Shoop) (From 'Waiting To Exhale') - Whitney Houston 3 Hey Lover - LL Cool J 4 Fantasy - Mariah Carey 5 Gangsta's Paradise (From 'Dangerous Minds') - Coolio Featuring L.V. 1995-12-09 1 One Sweet Day - Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men 2 Exhale (Shoop Shoop) (From 'Waiting To Exhale') - Whitney Houston 3 Hey Lover - LL Cool J 4 Fantasy - Mariah Carey 5 Gangsta's Paradise (From 'Dangerous Minds') - Coolio Featuring L.V. 1995-12-16 1 One Sweet Day - Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men 2 Exhale (Shoop Shoop) (From 'Waiting To Exhale') - Whitney Houston 3 Hey Lover - LL Cool J 4 Fantasy - Mariah Carey 5 Gangsta's Paradise (From 'Dangerous Minds') - Coolio Featuring L.V. 1995-12-23 1 One Sweet Day - Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men 2 Exhale (Shoop Shoop) (From 'Waiting To Exhale') - Whitney Houston 3 Hey Lover - LL Cool J 4 Gangsta's Paradise (From 'Dangerous Minds') - Coolio Featuring L.V. 5 Fantasy - Mariah Carey 1995-12-30 1 One Sweet Day - Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men 2 Exhale (Shoop Shoop) (From 'Waiting To Exhale') - Whitney Houston 3 Hey Lover - LL Cool J 4 Gangsta's Paradise (From 'Dangerous Minds') - Coolio Featuring L.V. 5 Diggin' On You - TLC 1996-01-06 1 One Sweet Day - Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men 2 Exhale (Shoop Shoop) (From 'Waiting To Exhale') - Whitney Houston 3 Hey Lover - LL Cool J 4 Gangsta's Paradise (From 'Dangerous Minds') - Coolio Featuring L.V. 5 Diggin' On You - TLC 1996-01-13 1 One Sweet Day - Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men 2 Exhale (Shoop Shoop) (From 'Waiting To Exhale') - Whitney Houston 3 Hey Lover - LL Cool J 4 Gangsta's Paradise (From 'Dangerous Minds') - Coolio Featuring L.V. 5 Diggin' On You - TLC 1996-01-20 1 One Sweet Day - Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men 2 Exhale (Shoop Shoop) (From 'Waiting To Exhale') - Whitney Houston 3 Hey Lover - LL Cool J 4 Missing - Everything But The Girl 5 Breakfast At Tiffany's - Deep Blue Something 1996-01-27 1 One Sweet Day - Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men 2 Exhale (Shoop Shoop) (From 'Waiting To Exhale') - Whitney Houston 3 Missing - Everything But The Girl 4 Hey Lover - LL Cool J 5 Name - Goo Goo Dolls 1996-02-03 1 One Sweet Day - Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men 2 Exhale (Shoop Shoop) (From 'Waiting To Exhale') - Whitney Houston 3 Missing - Everything But The Girl 4 One Of Us - Joan Osborne 5 Hey Lover - LL Cool J 1996-02-10 1 One Sweet Day - Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men 2 Exhale (Shoop Shoop) (From 'Waiting To Exhale') - Whitney Houston 3 Missing - Everything But The Girl 4 One Of Us - Joan Osborne 5 Hey Lover - LL Cool J 8 consecutive weeks of the same top 3, and they were all in top 5 for 11 consecutive weeks. |
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jan 14, 2022 11:40:30 GMT -5
I guess we can make the following parallels from 95/96 to 21/22.
OSD -> EOM
Exhale -> Stay
Missing -> Heat Waves
Hey Lover -> IB
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Post by NeRD on Jan 14, 2022 12:12:11 GMT -5
Isn't how something feels subjective? Lol Yes, thus I wrote "It's just my experience and I don't want to assume everyone has the same experience" And the numbers said "Bruno" was the most streamed song last week. Lol You and I know that streaming isn't the only metric of the Hot 100. If that were the case, Brenda would have been number one for at least one week this year. |
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Jan 14, 2022 12:43:50 GMT -5
Yes, thus I wrote "It's just my experience and I don't want to assume everyone has the same experience" And the numbers said "Bruno" was the most streamed song last week. Lol You and I know that streaming isn't the only metric of the Hot 100. If that were the case, Brenda would have been number one for at least one week this year. It wouldn't, because Brenda never topped the Streaming Songs chart. Mariah would have had two more weeks at #1 in 2021 though. |
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Post by After Minutes on Jan 14, 2022 13:23:18 GMT -5
Lost by Frank Ocean hit the US Spotify top 50
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Post by renfield75 on Jan 14, 2022 14:22:47 GMT -5
Itβs odd to me how people consider radio numbers to be in opposition of other metrics, as if theyβre holding certain songs ahead (or back), but we need to remember that a vast number of people (still) listen to radio and hear their music that way. Sure, they donβt purposely seek these songs out and yeah, the audience numbers may not be what they once were, but in the grand scheme of things, this audience counts so why are people constantly framing them in such a poor light? If radio is whatβs keeping βEasy On Meβ at number one, then βEasy On Meβ is being heard by a hell of a lot more people than βBrunoβ is, even if the latter is being talked about more on social media. Social media conversations (particularly around music) represent a limited range of people that are listening to music. Donβt let it fool you. And it's not like radio is the only metric holding on to old songs. Easy On Me, Stay, Heat Waves, and Industry Baby were all in the top ten on last week's streaming chart. Save Your Tears and Levitating were top 20. Since we're all passionate about music here we often forget how slow the rest of the public is to let go of older songs. |
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Post by rosalina4812 on Jan 14, 2022 14:24:59 GMT -5
My biggest flex right now is I haven't heard Bruno once. I feel sorry for you. |
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Post by badrobot on Jan 14, 2022 14:31:29 GMT -5
Itβs odd to me how people consider radio numbers to be in opposition of other metrics, as if theyβre holding certain songs ahead (or back), but we need to remember that a vast number of people (still) listen to radio and hear their music that way. Sure, they donβt purposely seek these songs out and yeah, the audience numbers may not be what they once were, but in the grand scheme of things, this audience counts so why are people constantly framing them in such a poor light? If radio is whatβs keeping βEasy On Meβ at number one, then βEasy On Meβ is being heard by a hell of a lot more people than βBrunoβ is, even if the latter is being talked about more on social media. Social media conversations (particularly around music) represent a limited range of people that are listening to music. Donβt let it fool you. I'd like to add, and I know this is totally anecdotal, but I'm surprised how much my own listening habits mirror the radio charts despite the fact that I haven't listened to radio in decades (the majority of music I listen to doesn't make the charts at all, but when I do listen to popular stuff, it usually syncs up far more with radio hits than streaming hits). I think radio does a really good job at representing what the "silent majority" of music listeners are interested in. These are people who enjoy listening to music but don't follow the charts or rush to listen to new artists or new albums. They're not following TikTok trends or streaming specific albums on loop all day long. They're usually older, like 30+ probably (I'm 41) -- and keep in mind, the MAJORITY of people in this country are over 30 years old, so it's not like this is some tiny niche audience. If you're young and in school/college or constantly on tiktok, I could easily see how baffling it would be to have these "boring" songs be so high on the charts when they no longer seem relevant to you (if they ever did). But on the flip side, people in my demo probably look at the charts and don't even recognize half the names, let alone the songs. There was just a post in another thread about the top 10 streaming artists of the year, and when I saw the list I laughed because I've literally never heard a single song by the majority of them (among this list, the only song I've heard by any of these artists is "Lucid Dreams": YoungBoy Never Broke Again, Juice WRLD, Morgan Wallen, Rod Wave, Polo G and Pop Smoke). And I'd guess probably most of my friends my age would say the same. Anyway, my point is -- radio represents a pretty massive audience, it just so happens that they are mostly the type of people who would never post here or care about the charts. |
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Post by rosalina4812 on Jan 14, 2022 14:45:08 GMT -5
Itβs odd to me how people consider radio numbers to be in opposition of other metrics, as if theyβre holding certain songs ahead (or back), but we need to remember that a vast number of people (still) listen to radio and hear their music that way. Sure, they donβt purposely seek these songs out and yeah, the audience numbers may not be what they once were, but in the grand scheme of things, this audience counts so why are people constantly framing them in such a poor light? If radio is whatβs keeping βEasy On Meβ at number one, then βEasy On Meβ is being heard by a hell of a lot more people than βBrunoβ is, even if the latter is being talked about more on social media. Social media conversations (particularly around music) represent a limited range of people that are listening to music. Donβt let it fool you. I'd like to add, and I know this is totally anecdotal, but I'm surprised how much my own listening habits mirror the radio charts despite the fact that I haven't listened to radio in decades (the majority of music I listen to doesn't make the charts at all, but when I do listen to popular stuff, it usually syncs up far more with radio hits than streaming hits). I think radio does a really good job at representing what the "silent majority" of music listeners are interested in. These are people who enjoy listening to music but don't follow the charts or rush to listen to new artists or new albums. They're not following TikTok trends or streaming specific albums on loop all day long. They're usually older, like 30+ probably (I'm 41) -- and keep in mind, the MAJORITY of people in this country are over 30 years old, so it's not like this is some tiny niche audience. If you're young and in school/college or constantly on tiktok, I could easily see how baffling it would be to have these "boring" songs be so high on the charts when they no longer seem relevant to you (if they ever did). But on the flip side, people in my demo probably look at the charts and don't even recognize half the names, let alone the songs. There was just a post in another thread about the top 10 streaming artists of the year, and when I saw the list I laughed because I've literally never heard a single song by the majority of them (among this list, the only song I've heard by any of these artists is "Lucid Dreams": YoungBoy Never Broke Again, Juice WRLD, Morgan Wallen, Rod Wave, Polo G and Pop Smoke). And I'd guess probably most of my friends my age would say the same. Anyway, my point is -- radio represents a pretty massive audience, it just so happens that they are mostly the type of people who would never post here or care about the charts. Most of those listeners donβt even have favorite songs or genres. Heck most people donβt. They just put on the radio to distract or calm their minds. They would listen to any song in every given moment from their goto radio station. Radio isnβt a representation of their likes, radio stations gives them what they should like based on algorithms. |
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Post by renaboss on Jan 14, 2022 16:39:20 GMT -5
I am right there with radio defenders, lately I'm a bigger fan of the Radio Songs chart than the Hot 100, because if a song makes the radio top 10 then it definitely is a hit that has reached the general public. People like to complain that radio fails to catch up to streaming hits, but I rather think it's streaming hits that should perhaps make the effort to be more radio-friendly. Let's talk solely about hip-hop, for example: it remains a dominating genre, the go-to for the younger generation, but it rarely does well on radio, so people think the radio charts don't accurately represent what's popular, or that they're unfair towards hip-hop in general. But back in the 2000's, the Hot 100 was pretty much a mirror of the radio chart, and most of it was hip-hop. That kind of music isn't being played by radio anymore because it's just not suitable for the medium, the way it was 15 years ago - so why don't artists make rap songs that are more radio-friendly and dominate both metrics? The way Lil Nas X is doing it.
As for Bruno, I get the whole thing with it being too 'musical' for radio, but it's so catchy that I'm sure it would take off well.
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Post by After Minutes on Jan 14, 2022 16:43:20 GMT -5
That's like asking why Jason Aldean doesn't rap not to flop on streaming
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Post by Groovy on Jan 14, 2022 17:41:57 GMT -5
My biggest flex right now is I haven't heard Bruno once. I feel sorry for you. Don't feel sorry for me. |
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Post by nathanalbright on Jan 14, 2022 17:47:09 GMT -5
Itβs odd to me how people consider radio numbers to be in opposition of other metrics, as if theyβre holding certain songs ahead (or back), but we need to remember that a vast number of people (still) listen to radio and hear their music that way. Sure, they donβt purposely seek these songs out and yeah, the audience numbers may not be what they once were, but in the grand scheme of things, this audience counts so why are people constantly framing them in such a poor light? If radio is whatβs keeping βEasy On Meβ at number one, then βEasy On Meβ is being heard by a hell of a lot more people than βBrunoβ is, even if the latter is being talked about more on social media. Social media conversations (particularly around music) represent a limited range of people that are listening to music. Donβt let it fool you. I'd like to add, and I know this is totally anecdotal, but I'm surprised how much my own listening habits mirror the radio charts despite the fact that I haven't listened to radio in decades (the majority of music I listen to doesn't make the charts at all, but when I do listen to popular stuff, it usually syncs up far more with radio hits than streaming hits). I think radio does a really good job at representing what the "silent majority" of music listeners are interested in. These are people who enjoy listening to music but don't follow the charts or rush to listen to new artists or new albums. They're not following TikTok trends or streaming specific albums on loop all day long. They're usually older, like 30+ probably (I'm 41) -- and keep in mind, the MAJORITY of people in this country are over 30 years old, so it's not like this is some tiny niche audience. If you're young and in school/college or constantly on tiktok, I could easily see how baffling it would be to have these "boring" songs be so high on the charts when they no longer seem relevant to you (if they ever did). But on the flip side, people in my demo probably look at the charts and don't even recognize half the names, let alone the songs. There was just a post in another thread about the top 10 streaming artists of the year, and when I saw the list I laughed because I've literally never heard a single song by the majority of them (among this list, the only song I've heard by any of these artists is "Lucid Dreams": YoungBoy Never Broke Again, Juice WRLD, Morgan Wallen, Rod Wave, Polo G and Pop Smoke). And I'd guess probably most of my friends my age would say the same. Anyway, my point is -- radio represents a pretty massive audience, it just so happens that they are mostly the type of people who would never post here or care about the charts. My experience is generally similar to yours, and I am 40 myself. |
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Post by Groovy on Jan 14, 2022 18:41:47 GMT -5
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Post by gikem on Jan 14, 2022 19:19:39 GMT -5
Reportedly this will be a Spotify-exclusive song with The Game, and only available to listen to for 24 hours. |
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Post by 85la on Jan 14, 2022 19:59:28 GMT -5
Furthermore on the pro (or at least not as much anti-) radio bandwagon, many streams are passive as well, determined by playlists not directly selected by the listeners or what they elect to hear exactly, so in that way it functions much the same as radio. I'm not sure about the ratio of on-demand to passive streams though?
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Post by lazer on Jan 14, 2022 20:27:47 GMT -5
All I am asking for radio is to go back to the days where they play newer songs frequently and letting go old songs faster.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 14, 2022 20:51:00 GMT -5
renaboss so every rap artist should make music like Lil Nas X so they can have some success on radio, really? Real rappers don't even regard Lil Nas X as a rapper. He's a pop star. Radio itself should evolve it's idea of what a rap hit should sound like. If a song is popular, it's popular. It doesn't matter whether or not it sounds like something radio should play or not. Radio shouldn't be this ancient institution so set in it's way that if you're not making bubblegum pop radio fodder, you don't get to have substantial airplay, even if your song is what's most impactful within culture and with actual active listeners who keep going back to streaming those songs.
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Post by JukeboxJacob on Jan 14, 2022 21:28:40 GMT -5
Hopefully a full week of the video will help "Oh My God" climb back into the top 20 or even top 15. I'm confident the video is just the boost it needs to repeak top 5 and have a solid chart run |
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Post by JukeboxJacob on Jan 14, 2022 21:35:27 GMT -5
The ability to gauge how big songs "feel" is a matter of how much time you spend exposed to the social world (online or IRL). As someone who spends an unhealthy amount of time on social media (FB, Twitter, Discord, YT), I can speak from experience and say that Easy On Me's a pretty big hit outside of just the stats. But Bruno... that song has ascended hit status. It's HUGE. So charts aside, I'd say Bruno's the "real" #1 rn
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Post by JukeboxJacob on Jan 14, 2022 21:39:53 GMT -5
My biggest flex right now is I haven't heard Bruno once. to the group of people who have yet to hear it... it's SO worth the listen. Beware it might get stuck in your head for 2 weeks straight tho. Oh look, it's conveniently embedded right here in this post! |
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Post by JukeboxJacob on Jan 14, 2022 21:54:46 GMT -5
First off, I'm sorry for 4 posts in a row lol. I try not to be spammy like that
Radio's hostility to rhythm (hip hop/rap) is definitely a problem. On Christian stations, they TAKE OUT rap sections on the few Christian hits that actually dare to have one. It's probably close-minded boomers running things who never moved on from the "rap isn't real music" mindset
Disclaimer: No hate to boomers, ELE!
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Post by somelikeitwhen on Jan 14, 2022 22:02:02 GMT -5
First off, I'm sorry for 4 posts in a row lol. I try not to be spammy like that Radio's hostility to rhythm (hip hop/rap) is definitely a problem. On Christian stations, they TAKE OUT rap sections on the few Christian hits that actually dare to have one. It's probably close-minded boomers running things who never moved on from the "rap isn't real music" mindset Disclaimer: No hate to boomers, ELE! Extinction level event? |
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Post by fridayteenage on Jan 14, 2022 22:16:08 GMT -5
3 mil 1st day global YT for What Else Can I Do.
hopefully another hit and helps with the sps for the album this week.
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Post by iHype. on Jan 14, 2022 22:32:28 GMT -5
First off, I'm sorry for 4 posts in a row lol. I try not to be spammy like that Radio's hostility to rhythm (hip hop/rap) is definitely a problem. On Christian stations, they TAKE OUT rap sections on the few Christian hits that actually dare to have one. It's probably close-minded boomers running things who never moved on from the "rap isn't real music" mindset Disclaimer: No hate to boomers, ELE! Well Christian is a very conservative genre filled with people that still don't like much 'secular' influence so thatβs not too surprising. What is more surprising and honestly comes off as borderline racism at this point is HAC radio still completely editing out Rap verses in every single hit in 2022. Itβs mind boggling they think playing Crazy In Love or Dark Horseβs rap feature is somehow going to be completely horrifying for the listener to experience. These (listeners) are mostly people aged 30-50 in a generation who have grown up their entire life where Hip-Hop is prevalent in mainstream Pop music and so are the features. You would think their audience is 85 year old puritan boomers with this mindset that even indirectly playing Hip-Hop for 20 seconds within a Pop song is completely unacceptable. When these listeners buy and stream the songs they are consuming them with the rap feature. Labels don't even bother to release versions without rap features for sale/stream because in reality so little of the public actually care about that. Itβs ridiculous. No middle aged Pop listener is getting horrified and offended at hearing Umbrella with Jay-Zβs verse in the year 2022. |
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Post by nathanalbright on Jan 14, 2022 23:31:57 GMT -5
I'm mystified by the same thing, it is rather baffling.
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Post by gikem on Jan 15, 2022 0:10:37 GMT -5
There are some times when taking out a rap verse can otherwise improve a song if itβs replaced with something more substantial. For example, Wiz Khalifaβs verse absolutely did not fit on Payphone by Maroon 5, and the bridge they replaced him with does make the song genuinely better and more cohesive. However, if I feel itβs an integral part of the song, I agree that having such a verse surgically removed and replaced with nothing is a bad idea.
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Post by dovahduck on Jan 15, 2022 0:33:54 GMT -5
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