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Post by jaffery on Feb 20, 2022 19:33:30 GMT -5
Why are we dragging Ghost for hitting only 500k streams on Spotify? How many songs are doing better? 18? That's hardly a problem when no song is even close to 2M streams and only a couple are at 1M. You are just focusing on Spotify, but "Ghost" was #36 on Streaming Songs last week and has a peak of #34 to this point. That's all obviously well below its current standing of #4 on Radio Songs. While they are two different metrics, you'd expect them to be a bit closer. I think radio stations would rather play a song that’s dominating call outs with 500-600k streams than a song doing 1m streams. Also, ghost is far from peaking on streams. I see it reaching top 10 on Spotify and top 20 on overall streaming after the Grammys |
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Post by jaffery on Feb 20, 2022 19:35:15 GMT -5
In regard to ghost, a lot of people are connecting to the song because of the lyrics and that acoustic guitar transition in the chorus is beautiful and very addicting. Go look at the YouTube comment section to the video and you will see all the locals on there and what they’re saying is the reason it’s doing so well
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 20, 2022 19:46:27 GMT -5
You are just focusing on Spotify, but "Ghost" was #36 on Streaming Songs last week and has a peak of #34 to this point. That's all obviously well below its current standing of #4 on Radio Songs. While they are two different metrics, you'd expect them to be a bit closer. I think radio stations would rather play a song that’s dominating call outs with 500-600k streams than a song doing 1m streams. Also, ghost is far from peaking on streams. I see it reaching top 10 on Spotify and top 20 on overall streaming after the Grammys What song are you referring to that is only doing 1 million streams? |
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Post by goldentakes on Feb 20, 2022 20:06:59 GMT -5
Ghost's run seems kind of similar to Adore You so far tbh. Radio staples that slowly gained traction in all platforms as months went on. Adore you peaked at #23 on streaming but still dominated airplay. Ghost has peaked at 34 and is still rising, probably will be in the 20's by next week. Songs been out for almost a year and been a single for 5+ months and is #19 on US Spotify and rising, and y'all trying to say it doesn't feel like a hit lol, I really don't understand. I'm genuinely curious, do you guys think Adore you didn't feel like a hit either?
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Feb 20, 2022 20:11:42 GMT -5
Adore You was awful. I can’t believe radio made that one a hit, and not Golden.
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Post by fridayteenage on Feb 20, 2022 21:05:46 GMT -5
Ghost's run seems kind of similar to Adore You so far tbh. Radio staples that slowly gained traction in all platforms as months went on. Adore you peaked at #23 on streaming but still dominated airplay. Ghost has peaked at 34 and is still rising, probably will be in the 20's by next week. Songs been out for almost a year and been a single for 5+ months and is #19 on US Spotify and rising, and y'all trying to say it doesn't feel like a hit lol, I really don't understand. I'm genuinely curious, do you guys think Adore you didn't feel like a hit either? yes. i had to google to see what song you were talking about. i only remembered miley's. |
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Post by goldentakes on Feb 20, 2022 21:44:54 GMT -5
Fair enough. Personally I really liked Adore You, felt like it had it's moment for sure.
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Post by Darkest Hour on Feb 20, 2022 22:05:31 GMT -5
Country audience is using Amazon Music more and more. Most country streaming gainers of the week are attributed to playlisting there.
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Post by fridayteenage on Feb 20, 2022 22:47:49 GMT -5
Country audience is using Amazon Music more and more. Most country streaming gainers of the week are attributed to playlisting there. top 50 on streaming songs overall: fancy like #32 tennessee whiskey #38 aa #42 buy dirt #46 Still not great. |
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Post by Darkest Hour on Feb 20, 2022 22:50:04 GMT -5
top 50 on streaming songs overall: fancy like #32 tennessee whiskey #38 aa #42 buy dirt #46 Still not great. It's Winter. Historically country streaming is the best during Summer (reflected in Spotify charts as well). |
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Post by degen on Feb 20, 2022 23:29:22 GMT -5
“Do We Have a Problem” STILL in the Top 10 on Apple Music even after new releases came through. Must be an awkward sight for the haters. Let them jump in glee tomorrow when they see the second week fall. But that will be it from there.
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Post by nathanalbright on Feb 21, 2022 0:05:24 GMT -5
Most of us pay more attention to the Hot 100 than to the Apple sales charts, and for good reason. Then we can look forward to two more big falls next week.
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Post by degen on Feb 21, 2022 0:29:11 GMT -5
Most of us pay more attention to the Hot 100 than to the Apple sales charts, and for good reason. Then we can look forward to two more big falls next week. Except it’s not the Apple sales chart. It’s the Apple streaming chart, which is widely popular in the hip hop/R&B genre. |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Feb 21, 2022 0:42:12 GMT -5
I think there is a general surge in Country streams as opposed to pre-pandemic times. Country has been one of the last formats to adjust to streaming, and it's been simply catching up. With that said, unless you have a "cross-over" hit, pop/Country song or are named Luke Combs, Chris Stapleton or Morgan Wallen, you likely won't have high streams as a country song (of course, there's always exceptions to all rules). Politics has zero to do with this. (Politics does have some to do with iTunes Country Songs going Top 10... because as I said Country has taken a while to adjust to streaming... but even then that hardly has an impact on the Hot 100 (see Lets Go Brandon songs)). Didn't country music take awhile to adjust to the digital era, too? And now that has been the last genre to really let go of digital sales and transition to streaming. Actually I'd say rock has yet to let go of digital sales and transition to streaming. |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Feb 21, 2022 0:54:30 GMT -5
A name? Wtf is Lugus supposed to be Not the name, the ugly individual who has it. Yikes. yikes, yikes, yikes. |
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Post by Enigma. on Feb 21, 2022 2:21:50 GMT -5
I read that one as a joke
Country's appeal to streaming audience is way more limited than other genres. It's basically one or two current MALE artists (Wallen, Combs, Hayes, Kane Brown if you consider him country) and then Tennessee Whiskey.
Tennesee Whiskey is seven years old and still one of the most streamed country songs on a weekly basis.
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Post by After Minutes on Feb 21, 2022 5:39:27 GMT -5
I read that one as a joke Country's appeal to streaming audience is way more limited than other genres. It's basically one or two current MALE artists (Wallen, Combs, Hayes, Kane Brown if you consider him country) and then Tennessee Whiskey. Tennesee Whiskey is seven years old and still one of the most streamed country songs on a weekly basis. Is that really true? Maren Morris and Kacey Musgraves still perform better than most of them on streaming (because you'd definitely be right to point out how unbalanced country radio is), and Walker Hayes only really has one hit as far. And even then, Morgan Wallen and Luke Combs still easily beat the rest, so it's just them absolutely dominating the genre on streaming with a group of artists trying to catch up to them with mixed results |
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 21, 2022 7:34:29 GMT -5
I read that one as a joke Country's appeal to streaming audience is way more limited than other genres. It's basically one or two current MALE artists (Wallen, Combs, Hayes, Kane Brown if you consider him country) and then Tennessee Whiskey. Tennesee Whiskey is seven years old and still one of the most streamed country songs on a weekly basis. Is that really true? Maren Morris and Kacey Musgraves still perform better than most of them on streaming (because you'd definitely be right to point out how unbalanced country radio is), and Walker Hayes only really has one hit as far. And even then, Morgan Wallen and Luke Combs still easily beat the rest, so it's just them absolutely dominating the genre on streaming with a group of artists trying to catch up to them with mixed results How is Maren's new song doing in streaming? |
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Post by ontopofthis on Feb 21, 2022 7:41:31 GMT -5
Country audience is using Amazon Music more and more. Most country streaming gainers of the week are attributed to playlisting there. top 50 on streaming songs overall: fancy like #32 tennessee whiskey #38 aa #42 buy dirt #46 Still not great. Like, why are people being obtuse about public information? |
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Post by mms82 on Feb 21, 2022 7:44:43 GMT -5
top 50 on streaming songs overall: tennessee whiskey #38 it's going to be weird, but I'd bet dollars to donuts this passes Sunflower eventually for most weeks on streaming songs chart |
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 21, 2022 7:54:56 GMT -5
top 50 on streaming songs overall: tennessee whiskey #38 it's going to be weird, but I'd bet dollars to donuts this passes Sunflower eventually for most weeks on streaming songs chart Nah, it only has 30 weeks total as of now since it's just a 50 position chart. It is 10x platinum, though, so I can see it threatening for the highest certified song ever in a few years if it keeps going the way it has been. Crazy. (It's also still top 50 at iTunes, though that's probably at most 1000 downloads a week.) |
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Feb 21, 2022 8:01:53 GMT -5
top 50 on streaming songs overall: tennessee whiskey #38 it's going to be weird, but I'd bet dollars to donuts this passes Sunflower eventually for most weeks on streaming songs chart It's not going to happen. It's a 7-year-old song that is 93 weeks behind Sunflower. To put into perspective how impossible it is, Tennessee Whiskey would need to chart on the streaming songs for nearly 22 more months (and that is in the unlikely case that Sunflower doesn't gain an additional week on the chart). If any song is going to break the Sunflower record in the future, unless that song gets virtually no radio, it will be one that finishes in the Top 5 of the all-time list. Heat Waves has the best chance of all the current songs, but it will need to chart like 150 weeks on the Hot 100 to do it. |
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Post by joshtheking on Feb 21, 2022 8:49:03 GMT -5
Hate Our Love by Queen Naija is soooo good, I hope radio gets on board
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Feb 21, 2022 9:05:54 GMT -5
it's going to be weird, but I'd bet dollars to donuts this passes Sunflower eventually for most weeks on streaming songs chart Nah, it only has 30 weeks total as of now since it's just a 50 position chart. It is 10x platinum, though, so I can see it threatening for the highest certified song ever in a few years if it keeps going the way it has been. Crazy. (It's also still top 50 at iTunes, though that's probably at most 1000 downloads a week.) It’s too far behind Uptown Funk, which is estimated to reach 20x platinum later this year or in early 2023. Tennessee Whiskey was released at around the same time as UF, and with UF remaining fairly steady in the US, I don’t see it making up the ground ever. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 21, 2022 9:09:30 GMT -5
Nah, it only has 30 weeks total as of now since it's just a 50 position chart. It is 10x platinum, though, so I can see it threatening for the highest certified song ever in a few years if it keeps going the way it has been. Crazy. (It's also still top 50 at iTunes, though that's probably at most 1000 downloads a week.) It’s too far behind Uptown Funk, which is estimated to reach 20x platinum later this year or in early 2023. Tennessee Whiskey was released at around the same time as UF, and with UF remaining fairly steady in the US, I don’t see it making up the ground ever. Ah yeah I see "UF" hasn't been certified since 2016. Wow. Of course, who knows if they will then actually certify is 20 million or whatever? "TW" is gaining a bit of ground at the moment. Regardless, what "TW" has done is amazing for a country song, especially one that never received significant airplay on any format. It will surely be the highest certified album track, if it isn't already. |
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Post by pnobelysk on Feb 21, 2022 9:40:19 GMT -5
it's going to be weird, but I'd bet dollars to donuts this passes Sunflower eventually for most weeks on streaming songs chart It's not going to happen. It's a 7-year-old song that is 93 weeks behind Sunflower. To put into perspective how impossible it is, Tennessee Whiskey would need to chart on the streaming songs for nearly 22 more months (and that is in the unlikely case that Sunflower doesn't gain an additional week on the chart). If any song is going to break the Sunflower record in the future, unless that song gets virtually no radio, it will be one that finishes in the Top 5 of the all-time list. Heat Waves has the best chance of all the current songs, but it will need to chart like 150 weeks on the Hot 100 to do it. I agree especially bc sunflower will likely gain traction again when the new spider verse movie comes out this year |
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Post by Groovy on Feb 21, 2022 9:46:55 GMT -5
Near four years later, it's still huge, I'm quite excited for the sequel.
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Feb 21, 2022 9:58:41 GMT -5
It's not going to happen. It's a 7-year-old song that is 93 weeks behind Sunflower. To put into perspective how impossible it is, Tennessee Whiskey would need to chart on the streaming songs for nearly 22 more months (and that is in the unlikely case that Sunflower doesn't gain an additional week on the chart). If any song is going to break the Sunflower record in the future, unless that song gets virtually no radio, it will be one that finishes in the Top 5 of the all-time list. Heat Waves has the best chance of all the current songs, but it will need to chart like 150 weeks on the Hot 100 to do it. I agree especially bc sunflower will likely gain traction again when the new spider verse movie comes out this year yeah, people associate Sunflower with Spiderman, that's one of the main reasons (if not the main reason) why the song is still big on streaming. |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Feb 21, 2022 10:11:53 GMT -5
US Spotify - 02/20/22
1(=) Carolina Gaitán - La Gaita, Mauro Castillo, Adassa, Rhenzy Feliz, Diane Guerrero, Stephanie Beatriz, Encanto Cast - We Don't Talk About Bruno 1,057,497 (-137,383)
2(+1) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 900,681 (-115,171)
3(-1) Jack Harlow - Nail Tech 788,743 (-268,501)
4(=) Gunna, Future - pushin P 785,596 (-100,230)
5(=) Kodak Black - Super Gremlin 749,919 (-98,733)
6(=) The Kid LAROI - STAY 689,872 (-85,609),
7(=) Lil Nas X - INDUSTRY BABY 673,609 (-84,542)
8(=) Jessica Darrow - Surface Pressure 665,196 (-92,104)
9(+1) Imagine Dragons - Enemy 578,584 (-53,502)
10(-1) GAYLE - abcdefu 551,369 (-81,038)
Others:
11(+5) The Walters - I Love You So 544,705 (-34,528)
12(+3) Doja Cat - Need to Know 522,390 (-59,470)
13(-1) Lil Nas X - THATS WHAT I WANT 518,066 (-73,015)
14(-1) Elton John, Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (PNAU Remix) 509,924 (-79,176)
15(-4) Drake - Knife Talk 506,840 (-84,752)
16(+1) Stephanie Beatriz, Olga Merediz, Encanto Cast - The Family Madrigal 497,458 (-71,432)
17(+2) Justin Bieber - Ghost 491,769 (-70,368)
18(+4) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 490,963 (-21,148)
19(-5) Becky G, KAROL G - MAMIII 489,597 (-98,859)
20(+1) Dove Cameron - Boyfriend 488,757 (-45,237)
22(-4) Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg - Still D.R.E. 459,235 (-106,322)
23(+2) Frank Ocean - Lost 452,386 (-38,500)
24(-1) Adele - Easy On Me 444,336 (-64,907)
25(+1) Doja Cat - Woman 438,095 (-47,780)
26(-2) Ed Sheeran - Shivers 433,557 (-71,300)
29(-1) Diane Guerrero, Stephanie Beatriz - What Else Can I Do? 412,124 (-60,794)
31(-2) Juice WRLD - Cigarettes 410,469 (-56,448)
33(+3) SZA - I Hate U 391,001 (-38,046)
34(+7) Arctic Monkeys - 505 389,555 (-15,199)
35(-1) Tate McRae - she's all i wanna be 389,461 (-48,834)
37(-2) Em Beihold - Numb Little Bug 385,317 (-44,241)
38(+4) The Rare Occasions - Notion 375,686 (-23,422)
39(-2) Fivio Foreign, Kanye West, Alicia Keys - City of Gods 362,220 (-66,311)
40(-2) Gunna - Banking On Me 357,015 (-69,593)
42(+6) Yeat - Monëy so big 354,018 (-26,737)
43(-4) Eminem - Lose Yourself 348,968 (-73,564)
44(-1) Lil Durk - Broadway Girls 348,187 (-44,691)
50(+21) Vundabar - Alien Blues 335,665 (-11,837)
51(+8) Playboi Carti - Sky 334,013 (-26,274)
52(-7) Latto - Big Energy 330,449 (-57,982)
53(-13) Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg - The Next Episode 329,600 (-84,216)
54(-1) Post Malone - One Right Now 326,783 (-40,411)
57(+12) The Neighbourhood - Softcore 325,815 (-23,326)
58(-7) Nicki Minaj, Lil Baby - Do We Have A Problem? 325,198 (-46,339)
59(-7) Stephanie Beatriz - Waiting on a Miracle 324,981 (-45,402)
60(-10) Dua Lipa - Levitating 323,816 (-50,822)
61(-1) THE ANXIETY, WILLOW, Tyler Cole - Meet Me At Our Spot 323,662 (-35,489)
62(=) Charlie Puth - Light Switch 321,388 (-36,535)
64(-1) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Smokin Out The Window 318,986 (-37,089)
65(+11) Tyler the Creator - NEW MAGIC WAND 318,452 (-23,618)
66(+2) King Von, 21 Savage - Don't Play That 317,801 (-32,264)
67(+12) Surf Curse - Freaks 317,426 (-22,678)
70(=) Jaymes Young - Infinity 313,465 (-34,196)
71(-15) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 313,199 (-50,432)
72(-7) Doja Cat - Get Into It (Yuh) 312,663 (-40,817)
73(+2) Lauren Spencer-Smith - Fingers Crossed 312,209 (-32,631)
75(-3) Gunna - P power 309,776 (-36,869)
76(+5) Muni Long - Hrs and Hrs 307,608 (-30,232)
77(+11) Labrinth - Mount Everest 306,844 (-14,495)
83(-5) Nardo Wick - Me or Sum 300,260 (-40,065)
84(-4) Sebastian Yatra - Dos Oruguitas 299,929 (-38,211)
88(-22) 50 Cent - In Da Club 294,065 (-57,138)
91(+4) Labrinth, Zendaya - All For Us 290,321 (-20,972)
94(+11) Beach House - Space Song 282,731 (-10,377)
101(+2) BoyWithUke - Toxic 271,745 (-24,120)
103(+4) Rod Wave - By Your Side 270,752 (-21,444)
104(+7) Ruth B. - Dandelions 267,640 (-17,115)
110(-12) 2Pac, Roger, Dr. Dre - California Love 258,283 (-49,745)
116(-32) Yeat - Poppin 252,831 (-76,310)
118(-10) Gucci Mane - Rumors 250,635 (-39,259)
121(+2) Taylor Swift - All Too Well (10 Minute Version) 248,876 (-23,942)
126(+38) Tame Impala - Eventually 244,384 (+1,488)
128(-16) Kendrick Lamar - Alright 243,510 (-40,647)
129(-5) Rauw Alejandro, Chencho Corleone - Desesperados 243,336 (-29,450)
130(+1) CKay - love nwantiti (ah ah ah) 243,233 (-26,345)
132(-22) Nicki Minaj, Lil Baby - Bussin 240,507 (-46,125)
136(-8) Stephanie Beatriz, Olga Merediz, John Leguizamo, Adassa, Maluma, Encanto Cast - All of You 237,981 (-33,972)
141(+2) The Weeknd - Sacrifice 234,984 (-23,044)
146(+30) Elley Duhé - Middle of the Night 227,824 (-10,353)
147(+13) Morgan Wallen - Sand in My Boots 227,574 (-18,861)
149(+35) Vacations - Young 226,909 (-6,399)
151(-16) YG - Scared Money 225,176 (-37,769)
155(+2) Yung Lean - Ginseng Strip 2002 223,075 (-24,921)
157(-4) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears Remix 222,323 (-27,776)
159(-7) Adele - Oh My God 222,154 (-28,442)
160(+19) Labrinth - Formula 221,963 (-15,529)
169(+4) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 219,811 (-19,170)
173(re-entry) Joy Again - Looking Out for You 218,757
179(-35) Russ - HANDSOMER 214,321 (-41,836)
189(+6) Cody Johnson - 'Til You Can't 210,411 (-20,358)
190(-21) Tiësto, Ava Max - The Motto 210,163 (-30,502)
191(+1) Kodak Black - Love & War 210,005 (-21,357)
192(-4) Baby Keem - trademark usa 209,368 (-22,832)
193(-27) ACRAZE, Cherish - Do It To It 209,105 (-32,351)
199(-21) Ed Sheeran - The Joker And The Queen 207,728 (-29,802)
197(-68) DDG - Elon Musk 208,223 (-62,598)
200(-7) Jessie Murph - Pray 207,708 (-23,249)
Total Streams for Save Your Tears: 442,134
Lmao, just as people were saying Ghost wasn't doing well on streaming, it gets a new peak on Spotify
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 21, 2022 10:20:43 GMT -5
Lmao, just as people were saying Ghost wasn't doing well on streaming, it gets a new peak on Spotify Spotify obviously isn't all of streaming. Regardless, I don't think anyone said the song was declining in streams, so I don't get your point. The observation some of us have made is that its streaming has been well behind its airplay. That is still true at this point, even with a new peak on Spotify. That doesn't mean it couldn't catch up at some point, but to this point in its chart run its stats are heavily radio-driven. That is a fact. |
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