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Post by Groovy on Feb 21, 2022 10:23:12 GMT -5
Heat Waves dethroned Easy on Me on radio.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Feb 21, 2022 10:28:26 GMT -5
Lmao, just as people were saying Ghost wasn't doing well on streaming, it gets a new peak on Spotify Spotify obviously isn't all of streaming. Regardless, I don't think anyone said the song was declining in streams, so I don't get your point. The observation some of us have made is that its streaming has been well behind its airplay. That is still true at this point, even with a new peak on Spotify. That doesn't mean it couldn't catch up at some point, but to this point in its chart run its stats are heavily radio-driven. That is a fact. ...  |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Feb 21, 2022 10:29:21 GMT -5
Heat Waves dethroned Easy on Me on radio.  |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Feb 21, 2022 10:34:19 GMT -5
Heat Waves will be joining Levitating as two songs managing to get #1 in Radio Songs thanks to a second wind. I wonder if this will be become a common occurence.
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates Β« 2022 Β» / Β« 02 Β» / Β« 21 Β»
1(+1) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 90.98(+0.34)
2(-1) Adele - Easy On Me 90.88(-0.61)
3(=) Justin Bieber - Ghost 84.93(-0.03)
4(=) The Kid Laroi & Justin Bieber - Stay 82.93(+0.25)
5(=) GAYLE - abcdefu 76.15(+0.73)
6(=) Lil Nas X - THATS WHAT I WANT 72.68(+0.35)
7(=) Ed Sheeran - Shivers 66.52(-0.55) +
8(=) Doja Cat - Need To Know 66.07(-0.31)
9(=) Post Malone & The Weeknd - One Right Now 55.20(+0.21)
10(=) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits (feat. Bring Me The Horizon) 54.76(-0.10)
15(+2) Doja Cat - Woman 42.74(+0.74) 23(+3) Kodak Black - Super Gremlin 36.03(+0.83)
47(+8) Imagine Dragons - Enemy From League Of Legends 24.81(+2.15)
66(+2) Luke Combs - Doin' This 20.56(+0.71)
81(+2) Fireboy Dml X Ed Sheeran - Peru 17.05(+1.01)
88(+11) Saweetie - Closer f/H.E.R. 14.95(+1.22) -(-) Fivio Foreign, Kanye West & Alicia Keys - City of Gods 4.32(+2.41) +
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Post by gikem on Feb 21, 2022 10:42:19 GMT -5
Heat Waves will be joining Levitating as two songs managing to get #1 in Radio Songs thanks to a second wind. I wonder if this will be become a common occurence. If it does, I hope it happens to songs that are actually good. (Not to say that these arenβt good, Iβd just like to see some consistency here) |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Feb 21, 2022 10:44:18 GMT -5
Lmao, just as people were saying Ghost wasn't doing well on streaming, it gets a new peak on Spotify Spotify obviously isn't all of streaming. Regardless, I don't think anyone said the song was declining in streams, so I don't get your point. The observation some of us have made is that its streaming has been well behind its airplay. That is still true at this point, even with a new peak on Spotify. That doesn't mean it couldn't catch up at some point, but to this point in its chart run its stats are heavily radio-driven. That is a fact. Do you think itβs a bad thing when songs are radio driven? |
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Post by Groovy on Feb 21, 2022 10:46:40 GMT -5
Interestingly enough, Chart Essentials released what the Hot 100 would look like without airplay.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Feb 21, 2022 10:47:01 GMT -5
Heat Waves will be joining Levitating as two songs managing to get #1 in Radio Songs thanks to a second wind. I wonder if this will be become a common occurence. If it does, I hope it happens to songs that are actually good. It looks like Cold Heart might be next. It bottomed out around 44-45M kWorb aud, and has been increasing since the end of last week. |
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Post by kingvavis on Feb 21, 2022 10:55:21 GMT -5
Heat Waves will be joining Levitating as two songs managing to get #1 in Radio Songs thanks to a second wind. I wonder if this will be become a common occurence. If it does, I hope it happens to songs that are actually good. I guess we live in two different timelines |
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 21, 2022 10:56:06 GMT -5
Spotify obviously isn't all of streaming. Regardless, I don't think anyone said the song was declining in streams, so I don't get your point. The observation some of us have made is that its streaming has been well behind its airplay. That is still true at this point, even with a new peak on Spotify. That doesn't mean it couldn't catch up at some point, but to this point in its chart run its stats are heavily radio-driven. That is a fact. Do you think itβs a bad thing when songs are radio driven? Not "bad," no. I think radio certainly serves a purpose (and an audience). I do give more credibility to songs that are driven by streaming, though. |
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Feb 21, 2022 11:05:05 GMT -5
Interesting that EOM would be at #16 and Stay at #18 if radio wasnβt included in the formula. It was pretty clear what metric was refusing to let these songs go.
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Post by οΌ³ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½π€ο½ο½ on Feb 21, 2022 11:37:55 GMT -5
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Post by annoymous1 on Feb 21, 2022 11:47:17 GMT -5
A collab no one asked for but one needs it more than the other since a certain single didn't do the numbers it was suppost to which is why the album got pushed back so it wouldn't flop.
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Post by gikem on Feb 21, 2022 11:51:28 GMT -5
Are all these recent Ed Sheeran collabs (Peru, TJ&TQ, and now Bam Bam) just his way of saying the = era underperformed by his standards and he needs to make up for that somehow?
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Post by Au$tin on Feb 21, 2022 11:57:47 GMT -5
Are all these recent Ed Sheeran collabs (Peru, TJ&TQ, and now Bam Bam) just his way of saying the = era underperformed by his standards and he needs to make up for that somehow? No? "Bam Bam" was in the works before =. And the TJ&TQ remix was teased before the album came out as well. |
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Post by rainygirl on Feb 21, 2022 11:59:58 GMT -5
Interestingly enough, Chart Essentials released what the Hot 100 would look like without airplay. not sure what the purpose of this hypothetical chart is . All it does is create what If scenarios |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Feb 21, 2022 12:01:24 GMT -5
Interestingly enough, Chart Essentials released what the Hot 100 would look like without airplay. not sure what the purpose of this hypothetical chart is . All it does is create what If scenarios I mean what's wrong with that? I think it's a fun seeing what ifs + it's the closest thing we have to the defunct Rolling Stones chart |
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Post by rainygirl on Feb 21, 2022 12:06:30 GMT -5
Are all these recent Ed Sheeran collabs (Peru, TJ&TQ, and now Bam Bam) just his way of saying the = era underperformed by his standards and he needs to make up for that somehow? No? "Bam Bam" was in the works before =. And the TJ&TQ remix was teased before the album came out as well. Ed may never recover from this over saturation. He and Weeknd need a very very long beak . This is too much |
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Post by spiritboy on Feb 21, 2022 12:07:52 GMT -5
Ghost has already over 400m streams on Spotify and will continue to have healthy gains so it doesn't matter if "it doesn't feel like a hit" to some of you guys, it's a hit. In streaming age, peaks don't define everything.
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Post by gikem on Feb 21, 2022 12:10:23 GMT -5
Are all these recent Ed Sheeran collabs (Peru, TJ&TQ, and now Bam Bam) just his way of saying the = era underperformed by his standards and he needs to make up for that somehow? No? "Bam Bam" was in the works before =. And the TJ&TQ remix was teased before the album came out as well. Even if they were all in the works for a while, the timing of these collabs releasing within months of each other seems suspect to me. Reminds me of when The Weeknd decided to pump out a bunch of collabs between TMB and the release of Dawn FM. |
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Post by spiritboy on Feb 21, 2022 12:10:27 GMT -5
No? "Bam Bam" was in the works before =. And the TJ&TQ remix was teased before the album came out as well. Ed may never recover from this over saturation. He and Weeknd need a very very long beak . This is too much Ed is doing fine in Europe and Australia (and Japan) and he's releasing another album in a year. He'll be touring for 4 years so i guess everything is fine with his career. |
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Post by Choco on Feb 21, 2022 12:10:40 GMT -5
I think Ed is just naturally phasing out of the superstardom stage of his career. Not saying he'll flop but this era has been reliant on radio spamming stateside. On paper the hits have been big but you can see the cracks and the formula starting to yield diminishing returns.
Plenty of room to be successful in a more lowkey way tho.
As for Camila Cabello, she's running out of options.
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Post by spiritboy on Feb 21, 2022 12:12:36 GMT -5
No? "Bam Bam" was in the works before =. And the TJ&TQ remix was teased before the album came out as well. Even if they were all in the works for a while, the timing of these collabs releasing within months of each other seems suspect to me. Reminds me of when The Weeknd decided to pump out a bunch of collabs between TMB and the release of Dawn FM. They've already planned the Taylor remix release for January/February before the album release so there's nothing suspicious about that. About Camila collab, she asked Ed to join her on a song and he accepted. |
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Post by rainygirl on Feb 21, 2022 12:13:38 GMT -5
No? "Bam Bam" was in the works before =. And the TJ&TQ remix was teased before the album came out as well. Even if they were all in the works for a while, the timing of these collabs releasing within months of each other seems suspect to me. Reminds me of when The Weeknd decided to pump out a bunch of collabs between TMB and the release of Dawn FM. I agree . And of course nobody is saying their careers are over or anything but they wonβt be what they were before . Which is still fine |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Feb 21, 2022 12:15:12 GMT -5
Do you think itβs a bad thing when songs are radio driven? Not "bad," no. I think radio certainly serves a purpose (and an audience). I do give more credibility to songs that are driven by streaming, though. Why do you think that is? |
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Post by spiritboy on Feb 21, 2022 12:15:18 GMT -5
I think Ed is just naturally phasing out of the superstardom stage of his career. Not saying he'll flop but this era has been reliant on radio spamming stateside. On paper the hits have been big but you can see the cracks and the formula starting to yield diminishing returns. Plenty of room to be successful in a more lowkey way tho. As for Camila Cabello, she's running out of options. Isn't selling out stadiums is a proof of his superstardom? I mean many acts struggle to sell arenas yet he is doing another huge tour. If superstardom is only about making hits, then neither Taylor nor Gaga are superstars anymore so what you said doesn't make sense. Plus Ed already had two huge hits last year with Bad Habits and Shivers. |
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Post by spiritboy on Feb 21, 2022 12:17:20 GMT -5
Even if they were all in the works for a while, the timing of these collabs releasing within months of each other seems suspect to me. Reminds me of when The Weeknd decided to pump out a bunch of collabs between TMB and the release of Dawn FM. I agree . And of course nobody is saying their careers are over or anything but they wonβt be what they were before . Which is still fine Ed is selling out stadiums around the world, what are you talking about? :lol: The Weeknd will also announce a stadium tour soon and i'm sure he'll do very well. Both are very global acts and will be more than fine. |
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Post by Choco on Feb 21, 2022 12:21:00 GMT -5
Perhaps superstardom was the wrong term - commercial peak is what I meant.
The smallest cristicism in a post saying he's still gonna be fine will still ignite a whole paragraph response lmao.
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Post by rainygirl on Feb 21, 2022 12:21:53 GMT -5
isnβt that the same day Billie and kid Cudi is coming out ? Should be fun π |
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Post by Choco on Feb 21, 2022 12:23:33 GMT -5
isnβt that the same day Billie and kid Cudi is coming out ? Should be fun π Billie and Kid Cudi have a collab coming out? |
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