Billboard Hot 100: 03/12/2022

[Choco]

please do not engage 🙏🙏🙏

[phieaglesfan712]

Mar 7, 2022 16:47:46 GMT -5 gabe said:

Mar 7, 2022 13:47:12 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Yikes at abcdefu and Super Gremlin not even clearing WDTAB.

Stay joins Circles as the only song to spend its first 34 weeks on the chart. 4 weeks to tie and 5 weeks to set the record. (Stay could pass Circles on the all-time Hot 100 list as early as 4 weeks from now.)

this makes no sense. perhaps you should have let this thought marinate in the brain for a bit more time so it was ready?

It is correct. There are only 4 songs with 34 weeks in the Top 10, and two of them (Blinding Lights and Levitating) did not debut Top 10. Unless I’m missing a song, the record is as follows:

Circles - 38
Stay - 34 (active streak)
Shape of You - 33

[Music Fan]

Mar 7, 2022 13:55:22 GMT -5 enwhy said:

How the hell did Bad Habits manage stick around in the top 10 another week? Like who's still listening to that?

Count me in as listening to the Bring Me The Horizon version nonstop last week, when I had barely even listened to the original much.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

I don’t see what the big deal is over an old ass song peaking months/years after its release. Still trying to figure out how it’s the fault of Billboard, or Spotify, or iTunes, or whatever else that’s to blame that isn’t the actual people listening to the actual old ass songs.

[kindofbiased]

The real reason the charts need to start moving again is because if this goes on any longer everybody on this forum is gonna lose the little sanity we have left

[Gary]

Mar 7, 2022 14:46:11 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Maybe a mandatory retirement rule for Heat Waves and Stay once they reach like 90 weeks. Without it, they may chart until late 2023/early 2024.

OK, why 90 weeks, why not 120 or some other number?

[Gary]

5 Reasons Why Glass Animals’ ‘Heat Waves’ Took a Record-Breaking 59 Weeks to Top the Billboard Hot 100
The alt-pop hit finishes its historic climb to No. 1 on the Hot 100 this week.


By Andrew Unterberger


Traditionally, Billboard Hot 100 records are set incrementally and ultimately broken by relatively small margins: Take the famous record for endurance at No. 1 on the chart, which has grown while changing hands over the last 30 years from 13 weeks to 14 weeks to 16 weeks to 19 weeks. Every so often, though, you get a record-setter that blazes so far past the previous holder that it makes you wonder if you’re talking about a different chart altogether — as is the case this week, when U.K. band Glass Animals reaches No. 1 with their smash hit “Heat Waves,” doing so in the song’s 59th week on the listing (dated March 12).


03/07/2022


Not only is that the longest a song has ever taken to hit No. 1 on the Hot 100, it beats the previous record by 24 weeks, a 69% difference. What’s more, the previous record-holder had a conspicuously nontraditional journey to the apex — Mariah Carey’s 1994 holiday classic “All I Want For Christmas Is You” built up its chart run over the course of multiple decades, as a perennial re-charter that began charting in consecutive years in 2012 but did not actually top the listing until 2019. (Even the second-longest run to No. 1 pre-“Heat Waves,” by Los Del Rio’s “Macarena” with its 33-week trek to No. 1, had a long interruption, as the song fell off the Hot 100 for nearly four months after its first 20 weeks, before re-entering with new momentum; by comparison, “Heat Waves” took only 61 weeks total from its debut for its 59-week chart journey.)

How were Glass Animals able to take this unprecedented trek to No. 1 on the Hot 100 with their international breakout single? Here are five factors that certainly contributed:

1. Taking the alternative-to-pop long crossover route.

A common factor in many of the longest-enduring Hot 100 hits is that they started on a different radio format before crossing over to pop — and eventually spreading to many others in between. This was certainly the case with “Heat Waves,” which debuted on Billboard‘s Alternative Airplay chart in November 2020 and topped it in March 2021 — about a month after it bowed on Pop Airplay, which “Waves” finally topped this January. It’s a similar route to ones taken by previous long-trek alt-to-pop Hot 100-toppers like Vertical Horizon’s “Everything You Want” (26 weeks) and Creed’s “With Arms Wide Open” (27 weeks), as well as Imagine Dragons’ No. 3-peaking “Radioactive,” which until The Weeknd’s “Blinding Lights” passed it last year, held the record for longest total run on the Hot 100 with 87 weeks.

2. Longer Hot 100 endurance in the 2020s.

As suggested by the previously alluded-to record 90-week run of “Blinding Lights” on the Hot 100 in 2019-21, big hits have a tendency to hang around the Hot 100 — particularly its upper stretches — for longer than they used to. In fact, even with its 59 weeks on the chart, “Heat Waves” is still only the third-longest-running Hot 100 hit currently in the chart’s top 25, behind both Dua Lipa’s “Levitating” (69 weeks) and The Weeknd and Ariana Grande’s “Save Your Tears” (61 weeks), at Nos. 15 and 21, respectively. Meanwhile, of the five songs with the longest runs in the chart’s top 10 and the top five — both lists led by “Lights” — none are from longer ago than 2016.

The reasons for this are many, but in large part due to streaming supplanting song sales as a major driver of consumption on the Hot 100 (which also factors radio airplay), and allowing for greater chart endurance in the process. (Listeners are likely to buy a song only once, but they can stream it countless times over many weeks.) Meanwhile, rather than try to compete with the freshness and immediacy that streaming can offer, pop radio has largely slowed down its playlist turnover and drifted further than ever towards established hits — particularly in the last couple years over the course of the pandemic, where familiarity has been paramount as radio seeks programming safety amid fewer workers commuting and, thus, potentially listening in cars. It all adds up to major cross-platform hits lasting longer than they ever have before.


3. Virality breeding further virality.

We’ve long been used to the concept of a song going viral resulting in an accelerated journey to a high, quick peak — one that usually dies out nearly as quickly. But a few years into the TikTok era, virality is proving it doesn’t have to be so fast or extreme: Instead, songs have longer, more gradual, and sometimes less linear growth curves — where it can be harder to tell what point you’re currently at in the curve in real time. Such was the case with “Heat Waves,” which spread very slowly over multiple bumps — one from a fanfic trend in late 2020, one just from a sense of seasonal appropriateness in mid-2021, and one from a remix trend on TikTok a little later that year.

While none of the bumps resulted in stratospheric gains for the song, they’ve all added up to the song being one of the biggest streaming hits of the past couple years — and one that now has a life of its own well beyond any of the mini-trends it’s been involved with. It’s never reached higher than No. 5 on the Streaming Songs chart, but it’s been on the chart for 49 weeks now, and returns to that No. 5 peak this week — nearly four months after hitting it initially. It wouldn’t be surprising at this point if it was still pretty close to there a couple months from now.

4. A slow-burner.

Appropriately for a song of its title, “Heat Waves” isn’t a pop scorcher so much as a slowly enveloping temperature shift. Whereas the major trend of 2020s pop has been the return of uptempo — from “Blinding Lights” to “Levitating” to “Stay” — “Heat Waves” instead wriggled into the charts with a decidedly midtempo groove and a catchy-but-low-key chorus, one less obviously immediate but arguably even more insidious. It’s the sort of song that takes more than a couple listens to prove totally addictive; just listening to it, you can hear why it wasn’t a crossover smash immediately out of the gate, but it’s also hardly shocking that it eventually became a favorite to millions of stateside pop fans, either.

5. Lack of major new competition.

As evidenced by last November’s Encanto soundtrack and its breakout single “We Don’t Talk About Bruno” owning the Billboard 200 albums chart and Hot 100 respectively over the past month, there have not been a large number of major new song or album releases dotting the calendar thus far in 2022 — with most of the songs recently rising in the upper stretches of the Hot 100 (GAYLE’s “abcdefu,” Kodak Black’s “Super Gremlin,” Justin Bieber’s “Ghost”) being holdovers from 2021. With “Heat Waves” remaining fairly steady in radio and streaming over recent weeks, what put it over the top on the Hot 100 was not any particular new gain in metrics, but rather just holding on long enough while “Bruno” started to drop at a greater rate.

It will be interesting to see now if “Heat Waves” can reign for as long as “Bruno” did merely through the steadiness that’s defined its 2022 to date, or if another hit — either one of those aforementioned risers, or a new song that we don’t know about yet — will rise to actually seize the mantle from it.

[Gary]

Levitating #15 (69 weeks charting)
Save Your Tears #21 (61 weeks charting)

[phieaglesfan712]

Hopefully, this is the last week charting for Save Your Tears. In fact, this makes me in favor of gikem’s 78-week rule. Under that rule, SYT’s last week on the chart would have been 9/25/2021.

[Gary]

The article suggests that streaming is the driver for the longer runs. Radio, in part seems to be influenced by streaming playlists.  Crossing multiple radio formats helps in longevity too



At the end of the day - you can install any recurrency rule you want --- nothing wrong with making your own chart.

[phieaglesfan712]

lol

[mms82]

Mar 7, 2022 17:04:11 GMT -5 Music Fan said:

Mar 7, 2022 13:55:22 GMT -5 enwhy said:

How the hell did Bad Habits manage stick around in the top 10 another week? Like who's still listening to that?

Count me in as listening to the Bring Me The Horizon version nonstop last week, when I had barely even listened to the original much.

Ed Sheeran doing rock is actually fantastic - I know Collab No 2 wasn’t Ed levels success but I think it’s his best album, the guy can make great songs across genres

[Gary]

Mar 7, 2022 17:48:02 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

lol

Posted that in the Kanye album thread a couple days ago - for reference



With ‘Donda 2’ Stem Player Release, Kanye West Skips Streamers — And the Charts
The album and the $200 devices that play it fail to meet Billboard's chart eligibility requirements.


BY COLIN STUTZ


AAfter releasing 16 tracks from Donda 2 to his Stem Player last week, Kanye West is so far staying true to his promise to hold back the album from streaming services.

The artist and entrepreneur, who now goes by Ye, reported $1.3 million in Stem sales via Instagram in the 24 hours after announcing Donda 2 would be released exclusively on his $200 proprietary hockey-puck-sized streaming devices, which allow users to remix songs as they listen. While new Stem purchases appear to come preloaded with 2019’s Jesus Is King, last year’s Donda and Donda 2, anyone who purchased the device when it was released last year can also upload the Donda 2 songs — or others — using their computer and a USB-C cable.

Ye said at time of his Feb. 18 Instagram post that he had sold 39,500 Stem Players to date — for total net sales topping $8.6 million.

While that revenue far surpasses what an artist can earn from streaming or sales in the same time period, one thing this release strategy will not be earning Ye is placement on the Billboard charts. That’s because the album is being sold with a device that can be used for other means besides the playing of the album. As such, the Stem/Donda package would fall within Billboard’s latest merch bundle policy, where albums sold with merchandise are not chart eligible.

Since the Stem Player is a fairly new concept, however, people familiar with the matter from both Billboard and MRC say they plan to continue to monitor its evolution as it relates to chart eligibility.

Ye released four Donda 2 tracks to his Stem Player on Feb. 23 following a listening party and live performance in Miami the night prior. The next day, he released 12 more songs, calling the 16-track collection the “Miami Version.”

When Ye released Donda on Aug. 29, it topped the Billboard 200 albums chart with 309,000 equivalent album units moved, according to MRC Data, becoming 2021’s top single-week release to that point. He was later surpassed by Drake’s Certified Lover Boy and Adele’s 30 and ended 2021 with the calendar year’s 39th biggest album, according to the Billboard 200 year-end chart.

[kindofbiased]

I think Mark from SpectrumPulse pointed this out in the latest Billboard Breakdown but I really hope Ed and his label see how well this BMTH remix of Bad Habits is doing and pushes one of the rock driven songs from = like Tides because of it

[forg]

Aside from Heat Waves, what other songs that debuted at #100 ended up at #1?

[gikem]

Mar 7, 2022 20:58:29 GMT -5 forg said:

Aside from Heat Waves, what other songs that debuted at #100 ended up at #1?

The only 2 to do so (that I know of) were both of Wiz Khalifa's #1's (Black & Yellow and See You Again). Me! would have joined this company had it managed to overtake Old Town Road in its 2nd week.

[Gary]

Mar 7, 2022 21:03:31 GMT -5 gikem said:

Mar 7, 2022 20:58:29 GMT -5 forg said:

Aside from Heat Waves, what other songs that debuted at #100 ended up at #1?

The only 2 to do so were both of Wiz Khalifa's #1's (Black & Yellow and See You Again). Me! would have joined this company had it managed to overtake Old Town Road in its 2nd week.

Here’s a recap of all 11 singles that have summited the chart after starting on the first step (an eclectic list whose previous two entries, coincidentally, belong to Wiz Khalifa).

Hot 100 No. 1s That Debuted at No. 100
“Heat Waves,” Glass Animals, hit No. 1 March 12, 2022
“See You Again,” Wiz Khalifa feat. Charlie Puth, April 25, 2015
“Black and Yellow,” Wiz Khalifa, Feb. 19, 2011
“Kiss Kiss,” Chris Brown feat. T-Pain, Nov. 10, 2007
“Can’t Help Falling in Love,” UB40, July 24, 1993
“The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia,” Vicki Lawrence, April 7, 1973
“When a Man Loves a Woman,” Percy Sledge, May 28, 1966
“Go Away Little Girl,” Steve Lawrence, Jan. 12, 1963
“Michael,” The Highwaymen, Sept. 4, 1961
“Teen Angel,” Mark Dinning, Feb. 8, 1960
“Kansas City,” Wilbert Harrison, May 18, 1959

[fridayteenage]

Ed Sheeran's two mountains of longevity made me curious so I looked up 21stc female albums with multiple solos at 4 months top 10. A very short list:
1989
21.

[Groovy]

Mar 8, 2022 0:02:28 GMT -5 fridayteenage said:

Ed Sheeran's two mountains of longevity made me curious so I looked up 21stc female albums with multiple solos at 4 months top 10. A very short list:
1989
21.

That’s it, wow, kind’ve surprised that 25, Teenage Dream, Sour, The Dutchess, Good Girl Gone Bad and The Fame aren’t up there.

[fridayteenage]

Mar 8, 2022 0:09:39 GMT -5 Groovy said:

Mar 8, 2022 0:02:28 GMT -5 fridayteenage said:

Ed Sheeran's two mountains of longevity made me curious so I looked up 21stc female albums with multiple solos at 4 months top 10. A very short list:
1989
21.

That’s it, wow, kind’ve surprised that 25, Teenage Dream, Sour, The Dutchess, Good Girl Gone Bad and The Fame aren’t up there.

td's 2nd longest: td, 14 weeks
25: send my love, 8 weeks
dutchess: clumsy, 12 weeks
if you count rerelease, good girl: disturbia, 14 weeks
fame: lovegame, 10 weeks

drivers license was 1 week short.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Mar 7, 2022 14:57:29 GMT -5 leonagwen said:

Mar 7, 2022 13:52:58 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

burn everything

one of the worst songs to hit number one in the past 10 years

It's a good song!

no it's not

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Notable Gains:
#19. Lil Durk - AHHH HA (+23)
#37. Luke Combs - Doin' This (+12)
#42. Dierks Bentley, HARDY, and Breland - Beers On Me (+10)
#54. Em Beihold - Numb Little Bug (+14)
#55. Dove Cameron - Boyfriend (+10)
#73. Tiësto and Ava Max - The Motto (+12)

Notables Losses:
#41. Jack Harlow - Nail Tech (-23)
#60. NEIKED, Mae Muller, and Polo G - Better Days (-10)
#62. Adele - Oh My God (-17)
#63. Dr. Dre feat. Snoop Dogg - Still D.R.E. (-20)
#70. Fivio Foreign, Kanye West, and Alicia Keys - City of Gods (-16)
#71. Stephanie Beatriz - Waiting On a Miracle (-11)
#74. Gunna - Banking On Me
#75. Ed Sheeran and Taylor Swift - The Joker And The Queen (-11)
#84. Future - Worst Day (-11)
#89. Stephanie Beatriz, Olga Merediz, John Leguizamo, Adassa, Maluma & Encanto Cast - All Of You (-12)
#94. Nicki Minaj and Lil Baby - Bussin (-22)
#97. King Von and 21 Savage - Don't Play That (-11)

Re-entry:
#88. Thomas Rhett - Slow Down Summer

Notable Dropouts:
Who Want Smoke?? (20 weeks)
Freedom Was A Highway (20 weeks)
Get Into It (Yuh) (17 weeks)
All Too Well (10 Minute Version) (15 Weeks)

Biggest Gain in Sales: abcdefu
Biggest Gain in Airplay: Enemy
Biggest Gain in Streaming (estimate): AHHH HA

Gained in Points:
#1. Glass Animals - Heat Waves (+1) *new peak*
#3. GAYLE - abcdefu (=)
#4. Kodak Black - Super Gremlin (+1) *new peak*
#11. Lil Nas X - THATS WHAT I WANT
#13. Imagine Dragons and JID - Enemy (+7) *new peak*
#17. Latto - Big Energy (+4) *new peak*
#21. Doja Cat - Woman (+3) *new peak*
#22. Post Malone and The Weeknd - One Right Now (=)
#25. SZA - I Hate U (+3)
#26. Jordan Davis feat. Luke Bryan - Buy Dirt (+5)
#28. Charlie Puth - Light Switch (+1) *new peak*
#36. Lauren Spencer-Smith - Fingers Crossed (+2)
#38. WizKid feat. Justin Bieber and Tems - Essence (+3)
#46. Parker McCollum - To Be Loved By You (+5) *new peak*
#48. Cole Swindell and Lainey Wilson - Never Say Never (+7) *new peak*
#50. Walker Hayes - AA (+3) *new peak*
#53. Kelsea Ballerini feat. Kenny Chesney - Half of My Hometown (+4)
#56. Sam Hunt - 23 (=)
#57. Tate McRae - she's all i wanna be (+5)
#58. Nardo Wick, Lil Baby, and Future - Me Or Sum (+5) *new peak*
#61. Fireboy DML and Ed Sheeran - Peru (+9) *new peak*
#65. Yung Bleu and Kehlani - Beautiful Lies (+9) *new peak*
#66. Ari Lennox - Pressure (+1)
#68. The Chainsmokers - High (+1)
#69. Maren Morris - Circles Around This Town (+7)
#77. Miranda Lambert - If I Was A Cowboy (+2) *new peak*
#78. ACRAZE feat. Cherish - Do It To IT (+4)
#85. Carly Pearce and Ashley McBryde - Never Wanted to Be That Girl (+2) *new peak*
#87. ERNEST feat. Morgan Wallen - Flower Shops (+1)
#91. Alesso with Katy Perry - When I'm Gone (-1)
#92. Chris Brown - Iffy (+1)
#93. Russell Dickerson - Home Sweet (+1)
#98. Saweetie feat. H.E.R. - Closer (-2)

[lugus15]

Ya'll realize that Nicki would have gotten an easy #1 IF she had released her single in any of the weeks after the one she released it?

[otaviohmg]

[phieaglesfan712]

Mar 8, 2022 5:42:15 GMT -5 lugus15 said:

Ya'll realize that Nicki would have gotten an easy #1 IF she had released her single in any of the weeks after the one she released it?

I'm not sure about the Super Bowl week (every song decreased in points that week), but I think she would have gotten the #1 had she released DWHAP on the 3/5, 3/12, or 3/19 tracking week. That said, not having a radio push doomed her chances the week she released. The fact that Nicki even debuted at #2 with no radio should tell everyone that the Meg/Dua collab, which is getting a radio push, is most likely going to debut at #1. Meg/Dua is bigger than Nicki/Lil Baby right now.

[gikem]

Mar 8, 2022 5:27:37 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

#63. Dr. Dre feat. Snoop Dogg - Still D.R.E. (-20)

Nothing against this classic song, but why is Billboard still allowing it to chart? Isn’t the rule that songs this old should be gone after they slip below #50 no matter how many weeks they have? I know that’s how Christmas songs work every year.

[Future Captain]

Mar 8, 2022 5:42:15 GMT -5 lugus15 said:

Ya'll realize that Nicki would have gotten an easy #1 IF she had released her single in any of the weeks after the one she released it?

easily. back in 2014 she also had that problem, where she would have had #1 with Anaconda had she released the video anytime in that year other than the week it did (She got blocked by Shake It Off which debuted with the strongest point week of the year)

[phieaglesfan712]

Nicki probably should have dropped the Anaconda video at the same time as the single (I never really understood why she waited 2 weeks to drop the video). She would have gotten the easy 2 weeks at #1, instead of Rude getting a 5th and 6th week. (I'm not so sure she would have gotten the #1 if she released the video later, as AATB was coming.)

[lazer]

I think Nicki Minaj's last opportunity to get a solo #1 was if she released Chun Li on a Friday with a music video and releasing the album couple weeks later.

[Choco]

The song dropped so much that I'm glad it didn't get to #1. Between BTS, Taylor Swift, 6ix9ine and Travis Scott we've had enough shortlived chart toppers for a while.

Now Anaconda was another story...