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Post by kindofbiased on Mar 12, 2022 12:59:28 GMT -5
Honestly I'm not worried about Sweetest Pie at all, it'll be fine, the thing that stung for me when I saw the Spotify charts was the lack of any album bomb from Lil Durk. I've seen way too many album bombs on AM that didn't translate to Spotify and as such didn't translate to the hot 100 and the more I pay attention to music rn the more I feel like we're just never gonna get anything to actually disrupt this Painfully slow period
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Post by degen on Mar 12, 2022 14:02:58 GMT -5
What the hell is everyone talking about! Am I the only one that thinks βSweetest Pieβ had a really solid debut? lol. I mean I already made it clear somewhere neither of those ladies have ever had front loaded debuts (not counting WAP which is an anomaly). They are more gradual builders. I only expected SP to debut in the top 10 so to me the first day numbers have met my expectations. Weβll see where it goes from here. I dont think it will fall off like βRumors,β but I also donβt think it will do as well as βKiss Me More.β
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Mar 12, 2022 14:35:08 GMT -5
The big difference is that Meg and Dua's previous songs (with maybe the exception of WAP) weren't as heavily advertised from the get go like this. Sweetest Pie reminds me a lot of Take My Breath. Both of those songs were advertised heavily with the expectation of a very high (#1 or #2) debut. You don't go through the trouble of all that promotion to just have a Top 10 debut. TMB's debut was a failure (as I said back in August), and so will Sweetest Pie if it doesn't debut at #1 or #2.
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Post by degen on Mar 12, 2022 15:53:50 GMT -5
If I had to predict (and I donβt, but I will anyway) at this point, Iβd say this will have a similar trajectory to songs like βRumors.β Relatively quick rise (on radio), peak within the first few weeks on the Hot 100 and will be gone by summer - but by then we wonβt notice because weβll be in the midst of the summer bangers of the year (I hope). The gag is you thinking radio is going to be playing new music this summer. I think you mean weβll be in the midst of fall 2021 music by that point.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Mar 12, 2022 16:28:47 GMT -5
If I had to predict (and I donβt, but I will anyway) at this point, Iβd say this will have a similar trajectory to songs like βRumors.β Relatively quick rise (on radio), peak within the first few weeks on the Hot 100 and will be gone by summer - but by then we wonβt notice because weβll be in the midst of the summer bangers of the year (I hope). The gag is you thinking radio is going to be playing new music this summer. I think you mean weβll be in the midst of fall 2021 music by that point. I didnβt say radio would be playing new music tho.
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Post by Joe1240 on Mar 12, 2022 22:02:51 GMT -5
There has been releases this year from major artists this year such as The Weeknd,Christina Aguilera,Jennifer Lopez,Avril Lavigne,Dua Lipa and Ed Sheeran,It is just that none of these new releases have done nothing on the charts just overshadowed by Tik Tok songs. Also a lot of 2020/2021 hits are still getting lots of streams such as Blinding Lights and Driverβs License and also not really any new Breakout artists that we usually see annually. Of these artists I'd only call three major atm, and of those one released a song yesterday, one released only a remix (and a feature that is massive in the UK) and the third looks to be setting up for an album re-release Still although major label Artist releases, lots of new songs also by Adele her 2nd single,Taylor Swiftβs feature on Ed Sheeranβs song,The Chainsmokers pop friendly new singles,Ariana Grande even had an soundtrack song for an Netflix movie and Maren Morris pop friendly singles also all artists who have good track records on the charts. It is basically an case of Tik Tok songs overshadowed all the major stars songs recently. Bad Habits by Ed Sheeran got an 2nd life due to the new rock remix out currently.
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Post by Enigma. on Mar 13, 2022 4:53:54 GMT -5
Of these artists I'd only call three major atm, and of those one released a song yesterday, one released only a remix (and a feature that is massive in the UK) and the third looks to be setting up for an album re-release Still although major label Artist releases, lots of new songs also by Adele her 2nd single,Taylor Swiftβs feature on Ed Sheeranβs song,The Chainsmokers pop friendly new singles,Ariana Grande even had an soundtrack song for an Netflix movie and Maren Morris pop friendly singles also all artists who have good track records on the charts. Apart from Adele's latest, all those bombed for a reason. The Ariana/Kid Cudi track is one of the worst they have released and completely pointless even in the movie context.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Mar 13, 2022 7:13:51 GMT -5
US Spotify - 03/12/22
1(=) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 958,863 (-47,563) 2(+1) Carolina GaitΓ‘n - La Gaita, Mauro Castillo, Adassa, Rhenzy Feliz, Diane Guerrero, Stephanie Beatriz, Encanto Cast - We Don't Talk About Bruno 843,155 (-7,754) 3(-1) Megan Thee Stallion, Dua Lipa - Sweetest Pie 769,018 (-167,027) 4(=) Kodak Black - Super Gremlin 763,106 (-35,137) 5(=) The Kid LAROI - STAY 710,644 (-26,121) 6(=) Nirvana - Something In The Way 677,442 (-56,949) 7(=) Lil Nas X - INDUSTRY BABY 653,244 (-20,615) 8(+1) Imagine Dragons - Enemy 635,639 (-14,173) 9(-1) Gunna, Future - pushin P 626,990 (-27,527) 10(+1) Drake - Knife Talk 570,866 (-41,620)
Lil Durk - 7220 23(+2) Broadway Girls 462,216 (-46,731) 29(-6) Petty Too 433,252 (-97,677) 31(-3) AHHH HA 425,270 (-70,832) 55(=) What Happened To Virgil 342,835 (-33,507) 160(-34) No Interviews 236,397 (-50,895) 183(-87) Golden Child 219,811 (-95,714) Total Streams: 2,119,781 (-41%)
Others: 11(+2) The Walters - I Love You So 559,860 (-48,802) 12(=) Dove Cameron - Boyfriend 549,469 (-61,253) 13(+1) Justin Bieber - Ghost 536,469 (-49,031) 14(+6) Jessica Darrow - Surface Pressure 532,271 (-15,615) 15(+7) Elton John, Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (PNAU Remix) 527,445 (-12,531) 16(+2) Doja Cat - Woman 527,148 (-24,857) 17(-1) Doja Cat - Need to Know 526,893 (-30,870) 18(-3) Jack Harlow - Nail Tech 520,569 (-48,915) 19(=) Lil Nas X - THATS WHAT I WANT 510,637 (-39,963) 21(+3) GAYLE - abcdefu 500,729 (-27,589) 22(-5) Kevin Gates - Thinking with My Dick 499,886 (-57,511) 24(+6) Becky G, KAROL G - MAMIII 458,778 (-33,352) 25(+1) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 449,808 (-47,800) 27(+4) Ed Sheeran - Shivers 437,403 (-37,022) 28(+10) Yeat - MonΓ«y so big 436,376 (-21,934) 30(+4) lil Shordie Scott - Rocking A Cardigan in Atlanta 425,994 (-38,853) 32(-5) Camila Cabello - Bam Bam 424,964 (-72,557) 33(-23) Rex Orange County - OPEN A WINDOW 423,946 (-219,945) 36(-4) Frank Ocean - Lost 418,818 (-50,440) 37(+2) Arctic Monkeys - 505 414,428 (-42,544) 38(-2) Em Beihold - Numb Little Bug 410,043 (-50,777) 39(+5) Stephanie Beatriz, Olga Merediz, Encanto Cast - The Family Madrigal 408,209 (-3,180) 40(+1) Adele - Easy On Me 402,554 (-41,683) 42(-9) Labrinth, Zendaya - I'm Tired 393,750 (-71,701) 43(-3) Russ - HANDSOMER Remix 388,775 (-67,244) 45(+7) Dua Lipa - Levitating 370,685 (-10,545) 46(+1) Post Malone - One Right Now 365,965 (-29,551) 47(+7) Latto - Big Energy 364,020 (-13,282) 48(+1) The Rare Occasions - Notion 362,669 (-23,214) 49(-4) Labrinth - Mount Everest 359,878 (-43,853) 51(-3) SZA - I Hate U 353,660 (-33,791) 52(-1) Elley DuhΓ© - MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT 349,875 (-32,691) 56(-3) Tyler the Creator - See You Again 338,204 (-41,312) 58(-8) Tate McRae - she's all i wanna be 333,412 (-51,959) 61(+1) THE ANXIETY, WILLOW, Tyler Cole - Meet Me At Our Spot 331,971 (-26,921) 64(+18) Diane Guerrero, Stephanie Beatriz - What Else Can I Do? 328,768 (-1,576) 66(-1) Lauren Spencer-Smith - Fingers Crossed 325,030 (-32,821) 68(-10) Tyler the Creator - NEW MAGIC WAND 324,609 (-43,471) 69(-10) Gunna - P power 324,579 (-42,034) 70(-6) Charlie Puth - Light Switch 323,946 (-34,165) 71(=) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 321,465 (-20,957) 74(-17) Imagine Dragons - Bones 316,938 (-56,064) 76(-7) Tyga, Doja Cat - Freaky Deaky 315,757 (-33,517) 80(-4) Surf Curse - Freaks 306,723 (-29,185) 81(-4) Gunna - Banking On Me 306,517 (-29,236) 83(-2) Juice WRLD - Cigarettes 306,383 (-24,962) 84(+22) Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg - Still D.R.E. 299,222 (-3,951) 86(-16) The Neighbourhood - Softcore 298,883 (-46,191) 88(-5) Playboi Carti - Sky 296,577 (-32,975) 92(-7) Ruth B. - Dandelions 292,331 (-33,873) 93(+1) Beach House - Space Song 289,926 (-27,122) 95(-16) Labrinth, Zendaya - All For Us 287,877 (-46,408) 99(-2) Vundabar - Alien Blues 279,688 (-34,782)
102(+6) Jaymes Young - Infinity 276,482 (-25,074) 106(+3) Nardo Wick - Me or Sum 274,664 (-25,940) 108(+7) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears Remix 272,972 (-22,129) 116(+3) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 264,692 (-26,538) 121(+26) TiΓ«sto, Ava Max - The Motto 260,608 (-11,327) 122(+32) Stephanie Beatriz - Waiting on a Miracle 260,262 (-3,910) 123(+10) Morgan Wallen - Sand in My Boots 260,009 (-21,447) 124(-11) Fivio Foreign, Kanye West, Alicia Keys - City of Gods 259,990 (-36,304) 126(-37) Rex Orange County - AMAZING 255,800 (-66,947) 133(-5) King Von, 21 Savage - Don't Play That 251,219 (-34,131) 134(-50) Machine Gun Kelly - ay! 250,957 (-77,632) 144(-4) ERNEST - Flower Shops 246,057 (-30,757) 153(+30) Sebastian Yatra - Dos Oruguitas 239,550 (-5,020) 154(+11) JVKE - this is what falling in love feels like 239,508 (-19,512) 156(+20) Rauw Alejandro, Chencho Corleone - Desesperados 238,288 (-14,330) 163(-65) Rex Orange County - KEEP IT UP 234,185 (-80,124) 169(+3) Muni Long - Hrs and Hrs 228,517 (-25,670) 172(-92) The Chainsmokers - iPad 226,562 (-106,523) 178(-12) Yeat - Poppin 223,288 (-35,125) 179(re-entry) BoyWithUke - Toxic 222,390 182(+9) Gucci Mane - Rumors 220,134 (-18,447) 187(+11) Vacations - Young 218,371 (-17,775) 188(-3) The Weeknd - Sacrifice 218,200 (-23,845) 189(+10) Cody Johnson - 'Til You Can't 217,803 (-17,981) 190(-2) Russ - HANDSOMER 217,605 (-22,453) 196(+1) Joy Again - Looking Out for You 215,545 (-20,607) 200(DEBUT) AnnenMayKantereit, Giant Rooks - Tom's Diner 214,898
Total Streams for HANDSOMER: 606,380 Total Streams for Save Your Tears: 537,664
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Mar 13, 2022 10:35:37 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates Β« 2022 Β» / Β« 03 Β» / Β« 13 Β»
1(=) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 89.69(-0.23) 2(=) GAYLE - abcdefu (feat. Royal & the Serpent) 81.85(-0.82) 3(=) The Kid Laroi & Justin Bieber - Stay 80.54(-0.07) 4(+1) Lil Nas X - THATS WHAT I WANT 78.91(+0.48) 5(-1) Justin Bieber - Ghost 78.70(-0.33) 6(=) Adele - Easy On Me 71.37(-1.09) 7(+1) Doja Cat - Woman 61.12(+1.56) + 8(-1) Latto - Big Energy 60.26(+0.51) 9(=) Doja Cat - Need To Know 58.92(-0.31) 10(=) Post Malone & The Weeknd - One Right Now 55.41(+0.00)
13(=) Imagine Dragons - Enemy From League Of Legends 51.20(+0.91)
16(=) Parker McCollum - To Be Loved By You 42.56(+0.75)
29(+3) Dierks Bentley - Beers On Me (feat. BRELAND & HARDY) 32.80(+0.78)
76(+4) Tate Mcrae - she's all i wanna be 16.36(+0.71)
86(+14) Camila Cabello - Bam Bam (feat. Ed Sheeran) 14.36(+1.13)
100(+10) Walker Hayes - AA 13.10(+0.73)
-(-) Megan Thee Stallion & Dua Lipa - Sweetest Pie 9.17(+3.15) + -(-) Rose Beat - Recordar 8.78(+0.72)
-(-) Dove Cameron - Boyfriend 8.19(+1.10)
-(-) Prince Royce & Maria Becerra - Te Espero 5.58(+1.01)
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Mar 13, 2022 11:39:09 GMT -5
Dua's numbers are tragic. She's coming from a huge era. As I said, this reminds me of when Abel released Take My Breath. Abel was coming off the After Hours era and still had 2 songs going strong, in Blinding Lights and Save Your Tears. Dua is coming off the Future Nostalgia era, and has 2 songs going strong in Levitating and Cold Heart.
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