Hil
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Post by Hil on Mar 29, 2023 15:44:18 GMT -5
Happy she’s doing both. HMH for the promo and Pink Champagne since she didn’t do it on tour and since it’s one of the better streamers on the album. I'd rather get OOTT. I really wanted PC on tour, but we got plenty of TV performances of it for the album release. Anyway, glad she's performing two either way. Hope she's actually going to the awards on the 2nd since she's pre-recording them.
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Post by rome on Mar 29, 2023 17:19:27 GMT -5
"Pink Champagne" is the standout track and most obvious hit on the album for me, though "Burn" probably would've made more sense as the lead single. The fact that it wasn't even performed on tour, let alone not be a single, is SUCH a disappointment. "Velvet Heartbreak" also should've been a single over "Hate My Heart". They are sonically similar, but VH is just a better song imo. Singles should have been: 1. Burn (spring/summer 2022) 2. Velvet Heartbreak (fall/winter 2022-2023) 3. Pink Champagne (spring-summer 2023) Probably "Crazy Angels" if they wanted to go with a 4th. Her streaming numbers are really disappointing though. Remember when Carrie signed with Universal and Cindy Mabe said their focus was going to be on making Carrie a global superstar? LOL. As far as Carrie duets go, I remember her saying in an interview somewhere that it's probably inevitable that she and Kelly will do something together. I could see them doing a Reba/Linda Davis-style "Does He Love You" 2.0. But I would really love to see her step outside her comfort zone and do something with a popular pop artist to expose her to a wider audience. Maybe someone like The Weeknd? Also, completely random, but here is an alternate version of her "Cry Pretty" album with a blue theme instead of the girly pink that a lot of people weren't a fan of. I think blue would've made more sense for the CP era since tears are often colored with blue and blue can also be used to describe feeling sad. Gives the album cover a more mature look, imo lol.
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Post by carriefan15 on Mar 29, 2023 17:35:07 GMT -5
She didn't even perform "Pink Champagne" on the tour so this is surprising. I think it fits right in with the theme this whole era…UNPREDICTABLE lol no one can say Carrie is too predictable after D&R
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Post by daddy on Mar 31, 2023 7:12:13 GMT -5
Unsure how common this is, but it's cool to see all of Carrie's mainstream country albums represented in her top 10 most popular tracks on Spotify.
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schnetzka
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Post by schnetzka on Mar 31, 2023 7:24:43 GMT -5
View AttachmentUnsure how common this is, but it's cool to see all of Carrie's mainstream country albums represented in her top 10 most popular tracks on Spotify. And there is only one repeat with 'Some Hearts' which goes to show Carrie's great discography.
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carriefan15
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Post by carriefan15 on Mar 31, 2023 19:32:23 GMT -5
Anyone down for a voting party tonight?! Gonna try to vote for an hour straight for Video or the Year! 🎉🥳 8-9:00pm Pacific Time. Gonna sit outside with a White Claw and play Carrie music while I’m voting 😂
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zdm1998
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Post by zdm1998 on Apr 2, 2023 7:59:44 GMT -5
Alright Team CU. If we're going to stick with HMH can we at least try to put some life into it, like perhaps discounting it on iTunes, or just something to bring it back to life lol.
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bornfearless2000
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Apr 2, 2023 9:20:54 GMT -5
Alright Team CU. If we're going to stick with HMH can we at least try to put some life into it, like perhaps discounting it on iTunes, or just something to bring it back to life lol. Please do HMH feat. Nicki Minaj
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zdm1998
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Post by zdm1998 on Apr 2, 2023 9:26:55 GMT -5
Alright Team CU. If we're going to stick with HMH can we at least try to put some life into it, like perhaps discounting it on iTunes, or just something to bring it back to life lol. Please do HMH feat. Nicki Minaj Lmaooo. I was thinking ft HARDY, but this surely is a job for the Barbs
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Post by soulfulwings on Apr 2, 2023 10:25:13 GMT -5
How are we only on the second single cause I am ready for a new era....
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Post by carrieidol1 on Apr 2, 2023 10:32:55 GMT -5
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Post by tigerman2022 on Apr 2, 2023 14:31:09 GMT -5
I voted for HMH, and hopefully Carrie's fan base will pull it through. BUT, if I'm being honest, of the three remaining videos, I don't think it's the best. To me, based on quality and concept, "Wait in the Truck" deserves it. But, I'm still rooting for and voting for Carrie.
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Post by carriefan15 on Apr 2, 2023 15:34:21 GMT -5
Voting!!! We got this! 5th year in a row coming up 🥳🎉🥳🎉
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Post by matty005 on Apr 2, 2023 15:40:14 GMT -5
Voting!!! We got this! 5th year in a row coming up 🥳🎉🥳🎉 Maybe this is why Carrie’s complacent for her videos these days. Even when her vids are just average they still win video of the year!
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Post by carrieidol1 on Apr 2, 2023 16:01:17 GMT -5
The CMTs are a popularity contest. Hardly about the actual videos… I mean some might vote based on that, but I’m pretty sure CMT is picking out artists whose videos are sure to draw ratings and votes… I don’t think there’s any sort of objective formula other than consideration of video release dates, artist popularity, and perhaps video performance on their countdown.
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Post by carriefan15 on Apr 2, 2023 16:49:22 GMT -5
Voting!!! We got this! 5th year in a row coming up 🥳🎉🥳🎉 Maybe this is why Carrie’s complacent for her videos these days. Even when her vids are just average they still win video of the year! Maybe. Maybe not. Guess we’ll never know
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Post by tigerman2022 on Apr 2, 2023 22:47:08 GMT -5
She needs to move on from "Hate My Heart." To quote a line from the song: "That ain't it." It doesn't create a moment when she performs it. Tonight was fine. I truly believe it's not her - it's the song. It doesn't showcase her at all. I felt the same way when we saw her on tour. Please move on to something else, Carrie. Hopefully, she does something else at the ACMs.
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Post by popwizard on Apr 2, 2023 23:23:54 GMT -5
She needs to move on from "Hate My Heart." To quote a line from the song: "That ain't it." It doesn't create a moment when she performs it. Tonight was fine. I truly believe it's not her - it's the song. It doesn't showcase her at all. I felt the same way when we saw her on tour. Please move on to something else, Carrie. Hopefully, she does something else at the ACMs. I think radio has Carrie fatigue, or legacy act status for her, at the moment unless the song is truly great. I think Hate My Heart is a pretty good song though. It’s relatable, light, fun with good lyrics in my opinion. I thought it was good on tour but at the same time wouldn’t be mad if she moved on from it. It surpasses Southbound (which went number 1) in terms of lyrics but SB had a very catchy chorus/hook/melody and this song seems to miss that in comparison.
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zdm1998
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Post by zdm1998 on Apr 3, 2023 6:36:13 GMT -5
She needs to move on from "Hate My Heart." To quote a line from the song: "That ain't it." It doesn't create a moment when she performs it. Tonight was fine. I truly believe it's not her - it's the song. It doesn't showcase her at all. I felt the same way when we saw her on tour. Please move on to something else, Carrie. Hopefully, she does something else at the ACMs. I think radio has Carrie fatigue, or legacy act status for her, at the moment unless the song is truly great. I think Hate My Heart is a pretty good song though. It’s relatable, light, fun with good lyrics in my opinion. I thought it was good on tour but at the same time wouldn’t be mad if she moved on from it. It surpasses Southbound (which went number 1) in terms of lyrics but SB had a very catchy chorus/hook/melody and this song seems to miss that in comparison. I’m not sure about them having fatigue. They jumped on HMH pretty fast when it first started out, and moved at a really good pace until the top 25. If they would’ve had fatigue they wouldn’t have moved it up the chart that fast, it would’ve been like Kelsea’s, slowing climbing through the 40s.
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zdm1998
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Post by zdm1998 on Apr 3, 2023 6:41:10 GMT -5
I do agree that HMH doesn’t really do a lot for me during TV performances, the CMA performance didn’t do much for me, and the CMT one, while better imo, didn’t do that much for me either. Not a lot of songs on the album give me the “it” factor where I think a lot could be done with a live performance like songs in the past (ex, Drinking Alone, Church Bells, Two Black Cadillacs, etc.)
I’m kinda just ready for a new era. I don’t really know why this one didn’t work, it wasn’t a bad album imo, but I just want to see Carrie making somewhat of a noise with her new material, not massive noise, but at least stuff that streams/sales decent like Southbound did.
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Post by tigerman2022 on Apr 3, 2023 11:07:15 GMT -5
I didn't see the whole thing, but I did this snippet of the "Pink Champagne" CMT performance. From what I see in this short snippet, the live performance of this would have been a better fit for CMTs. Hard to believe, but it even sounds more country than "HMH." I wasn't in the camp for this to be a single necessarily, but it is clear to me now that it would have been better than "HMH." Maybe "Burn" or something else will stick at some point, but the album itself I think is pretty much done at this point. Her team is really going to have to re-evaluate their promo and streaming strategies moving forward. I know her charting days will come to an end at some point, but I still think she has more to do and contribute. youtube.com/shorts/dsfm13flP4A?feature=share
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Post by desertfloods on Apr 3, 2023 17:26:49 GMT -5
What is that Pink Champagne performance for if it wasn't aired during CMT Awards?
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Post by Typo on Apr 3, 2023 19:33:22 GMT -5
There’s an extended version of the CMT Awards airing Thursday.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2023 0:06:36 GMT -5
I, too, am ready for a new era honestly. I really do not know what happened this era, but it just made zero noise for some reason. It’s like most people didn’t even know it happened. Maybe the more pop sound of it turned off some fans? I have a friend who didn’t like the new sound these last two eras, but loves Carrie. I don’t know what happened. But just two singles ago, she had a pretty decent hit with Southbound, which still streams well and OOTT is showing to actually be streaming pretty well. So there’s definitely still potential for success like that.
I’m just interested to see what happens next era. I think Carrie has already begun working on the next era, which is unusual but exciting for her.
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Post by schnetzka on Apr 4, 2023 6:02:26 GMT -5
See, I don't know if I agree with the "because of the pop sound" element of it because 'Cry Pretty' was even more pop that 'Denim & Rhinestones' and the former album did relatively well. Yes, it didn't go to the heights of her former releases but it still made some noise. I'm truly puzzled though why 'D&R' didn't do all that well in the grand scheme of things.
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Post by daddy on Apr 4, 2023 6:48:33 GMT -5
I think much of it is the marketing of the album. She consistently described it as “fun”. Even as a huge fan, it wasn’t very motivating. I’m in the minority of people who love “Ghost Story”, but marketing an album as “fun” with that as the single didn’t click. I think this album was created with a tour in mind, which is not - IMO - how an artist should put together an album.
I hope Carrie brings us some exceptional story songs moving forward or leans into a 90s country sound. After 2 glossy albums, I think most listeners would welcome a stripped back, countrier album. David/Carrie produced “My Savior”, so they definitely have it in them. I’d love something along the lines of Storyteller. Regardless, I’m curious to see where they’ll go from here. I hope we don’t have to wait so long until the next album.
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Post by desertfloods on Apr 4, 2023 7:38:39 GMT -5
I think much of it is the marketing of the album. She consistently described it as “fun”. Even as a huge fan, it wasn’t very motivating. I’m in the minority of people who love “Ghost Story”, but marketing an album as “fun” with that as the single didn’t click. I think this album was created with a tour in mind, which is not - IMO - how an artist should put together an album. I hope Carrie brings us some exceptional story songs moving forward or leans into a 90s country sound. After 2 glossy albums, I think most listeners would welcome a stripped back, countrier album. David/Carrie produced “My Savior”, so they definitely have it in them. I’d love something along the lines of Storyteller. Regardless, I’m curious to see where they’ll go from here. I hope we don’t have to wait so long until the next album. I wished she described the album better during promo as well, besides it being "fun". At that time, I remember thinking, "eh, that's not enough to sell the album to casual listeners". It's always been Carrie's thing though, making an album with radio and tour in mind. Which is why her albums tend to have something for everyone, but critics aren't big fans of them.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Apr 4, 2023 8:05:49 GMT -5
Carrie hasn’t done much to break through with the younger generations, who are generally extra “woke” and mainly respond to outspoken allies. Carrie’s conservative nature isn’t that appealing, and certainly won’t serve to grow her fan base these days. I know there are plenty of young people at her concerts, but generally speaking she isn’t making any splashes in the way it seems artists do these days to gain/regain traction in their careers.
Being a sweetheart from Oklahoma worked in 2005, but in this world of over exposure and viral trends she’s getting blown out of the water by literal trendsetters and outspoken artists. This is purely my opinion, I can’t really back anything up… just a hypothesis more or less based on who’s “big” right now and who isn’t…
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Apr 4, 2023 8:20:25 GMT -5
I think much of it is the marketing of the album. She consistently described it as “fun”. Even as a huge fan, it wasn’t very motivating. I’m in the minority of people who love “Ghost Story”, but marketing an album as “fun” with that as the single didn’t click. I think this album was created with a tour in mind, which is not - IMO - how an artist should put together an album. I hope Carrie brings us some exceptional story songs moving forward or leans into a 90s country sound. After 2 glossy albums, I think most listeners would welcome a stripped back, countrier album. David/Carrie produced “My Savior”, so they definitely have it in them. I’d love something along the lines of Storyteller. Regardless, I’m curious to see where they’ll go from here. I hope we don’t have to wait so long until the next album. Now that you mentioned ‘My Savior’, i just revisited the album after quite a while and forgot how i LOVED the album. The production, her voice, everything blended well. It’s probably her best Album IMO.
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Post by daddy on Apr 4, 2023 8:42:24 GMT -5
I think much of it is the marketing of the album. She consistently described it as “fun”. Even as a huge fan, it wasn’t very motivating. I’m in the minority of people who love “Ghost Story”, but marketing an album as “fun” with that as the single didn’t click. I think this album was created with a tour in mind, which is not - IMO - how an artist should put together an album. I hope Carrie brings us some exceptional story songs moving forward or leans into a 90s country sound. After 2 glossy albums, I think most listeners would welcome a stripped back, countrier album. David/Carrie produced “My Savior”, so they definitely have it in them. I’d love something along the lines of Storyteller. Regardless, I’m curious to see where they’ll go from here. I hope we don’t have to wait so long until the next album. Now that you mentioned ‘My Savior’, i just revisited the album after quite a while and forgot how i LOVED the album. The production, her voice, everything blended well. It’s probably her best Album IMO. I'm not one to typically listen to hymns, but it really is an exceptional album and perfectly produced. It's so... peaceful. Her vocals are pristine and clear and really blend beautifully with the instruments. Was so happy it got her a well-deserved 8th Grammy. Personally, I'm thankful she chose to go this route vs a Contemporary Christian album, which I find to be such a generic sounding genre And it gave us this stellar medley:
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