Carrie Underwood - “I’m Gonna Love You” #1 All-Genre iTunes

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Apr 4, 2023 6:48:33 GMT -5 daddy said:

I think much of it is the marketing of the album. She consistently described it as “fun”. Even as a huge fan, it wasn’t very motivating. I’m in the minority of people who love “Ghost Story”, but marketing an album as “fun” with that as the single didn’t click. I think this album was created with a tour in mind, which is not - IMO - how an artist should put together an album.

I hope Carrie brings us some exceptional story songs moving forward or leans into a 90s country sound. After 2 glossy albums, I think most listeners would welcome a stripped back, countrier album. David/Carrie produced “My Savior”, so they definitely have it in them. I’d love something along the lines of Storyteller. Regardless, I’m curious to see where they’ll go from here. I hope we don’t have to wait so long until the next album.

I sort of feel like we might be getting that next era. I think Carrie realizes for whatever reason this album didn’t work and that is why she seems to already be making new music. She’s a competitive person so her realizing this era didn’t work will probably make her go back to the drawing board and think what can she do differently or something like that. The only place to go seems to be leaning into something countrier sounding so I just have a feeling that’s what we’ll be getting next album since it’ll probably be pretty different from this era. Which, ironically, I think might be more successful than these last two pop sounding albums

[zdm1998]

After much consideration, I would like Choctaw County Affair (Carrie’s Version), to be next. No further questions at this time. Given that twang country is back, it would slay on the radio.

[freeman]

I love Denim & Rhinestones so much. It might be my favorite album from her. Seeing the lukewarm reaction hurts me 😭 But I’ll be banging out to it till the end of time.

[schnetzka]

I definitely feel like an outlier on here sometimes because I absolutely love her more pop-influenced tracks and they seem to be some of her most disliked or not as well loved songs lol.

[kath2833]

I think D&R & Cry Pretty are my favorite Carrie albums so far because they show her range in production & vocals. She soars in CP with her high notes & vocal gymnastics while D&R combines various genres for an album that's always easy to listen to imo. Especially the title track D&R is such a bop with that intro! Whoever decided to make that the first song in the album was right to do so, easily sets the whole fun/upbeat mood of the album.

[desertfloods]

Perhaps putting out a very pop-leaning album (much more than Storyteller and prior) when her pop fanbase isn't big is what kills the era. Didn't catch the country audience, but didn't attract pop fans who have left either.

May have been a different story if she did it much earlier in her career.

[tigerman2022]

Apr 4, 2023 8:20:25 GMT -5 bornfearless2000 said:

Apr 4, 2023 6:48:33 GMT -5 daddy said:

I think much of it is the marketing of the album. She consistently described it as “fun”. Even as a huge fan, it wasn’t very motivating. I’m in the minority of people who love “Ghost Story”, but marketing an album as “fun” with that as the single didn’t click. I think this album was created with a tour in mind, which is not - IMO - how an artist should put together an album.

I hope Carrie brings us some exceptional story songs moving forward or leans into a 90s country sound. After 2 glossy albums, I think most listeners would welcome a stripped back, countrier album. David/Carrie produced “My Savior”, so they definitely have it in them. I’d love something along the lines of Storyteller. Regardless, I’m curious to see where they’ll go from here. I hope we don’t have to wait so long until the next album.

Now that you mentioned ‘My Savior’, i just revisited the album after quite a while and forgot how i LOVED the album. The production, her voice, everything blended well. It’s probably her best Album IMO.

I agree. 

[tigerman2022]

Apr 4, 2023 8:42:24 GMT -5 daddy said:

Apr 4, 2023 8:20:25 GMT -5 bornfearless2000 said:

Now that you mentioned ‘My Savior’, i just revisited the album after quite a while and forgot how i LOVED the album. The production, her voice, everything blended well. It’s probably her best Album IMO.

I'm not one to typically listen to hymns, but it really is an exceptional album and perfectly produced. It's so... peaceful. Her vocals are pristine and clear and really blend beautifully with the instruments. Was so happy it got her a well-deserved 8th Grammy. Personally, I'm thankful she chose to go this route vs a Contemporary Christian album, which I find to be such a generic sounding genre 

And it gave us this stellar medley: 



 
I completely agree. Top to bottom, I think it is her best album. I think that's due in large part to her passion for and connection to the songs. She needs to replicate that passion in her next country project, in my opinion. 

[musicfan134]

I don't know if it's because it's more "pop leaning" but it definitely feels like Carrie has been rather disconnected/disinterested in her country music as of late. She seemed to be a lot more into My Gift and My Savior than either CP or D&R quite frankly. I've said this before, but I honestly think she wants to move into the legacy act of her career and she is letting her musical output kind of lack a little bit as a result. Which is unfortunate because I firmly believe if she wanted to she could have 2-3 more decent sized album eras a la Storyteller. But I don't get the impression she wants that right now.

EDIT: I kind of wonder if that is due, in part, to her lack of a CMA EOTY win? I think we all know she is more stung at the snub than she will let us believe.

[Hil]

Apr 4, 2023 23:04:54 GMT -5 musicfan134 said:

I don't know if it's because it's more "pop leaning" but it definitely feels like Carrie has been rather disconnected/disinterested in her country music as of late. She seemed to be a lot more into My Gift and My Savior than either CP or D&R quite frankly. I've said this before, but I honestly think she wants to move into the legacy act of her career and she is letting her musical output kind of lack a little bit as a result. Which is unfortunate because I firmly believe if she wanted to she could have 2-3 more decent sized album eras a la Storyteller. But I don't get the impression she wants that right now.

EDIT: I kind of wonder if that is due, in part, to her lack of a CMA EOTY win? I think we all know she is more stung at the snub than she will let us believe.

I agree it stung her, but I don't think it affected her albums. Cry pretty did quite well, just not at radio. I think D&R was designed for radio and a tour. I haven no idea which direction Carrie will go next. I personally have loved her last three albums as a whole best, but I truly love pretty much most of her music. Some people want a rock album, but I hope she waits awhile for that. She still has time to make some noise and with the right album(s) she could do that the next couple of cycles. I hope she goes a little more country next time just because she hasn't done that in a while, and her voice sounds amazing on songs like that. 90's country with even some more stripped down stuff would be great. I love OOTT. It's interesting she's writing and back in the studio so early. It does seem like she's going to put out an album sooner than we're used to. Also super excited about the Cody Johnson duet. Should be good.

As far as awards I don't think Carrie thinks about them like she used to. I'd still love to see she and Brad host again. They were so good and make the show so much fun to watch, at least for me.

[Night Senses]

Apr 4, 2023 8:20:25 GMT -5 bornfearless2000 said:

Now that you mentioned ‘My Savior’, i just revisited the album after quite a while and forgot how i LOVED the album. The production, her voice, everything blended well. It’s probably her best Album IMO.

It’s an amazing album. I didn’t know she was so hands on with it.

[zdm1998]

Apr 4, 2023 23:04:54 GMT -5 musicfan134 said:

I don't know if it's because it's more "pop leaning" but it definitely feels like Carrie has been rather disconnected/disinterested in her country music as of late. She seemed to be a lot more into My Gift and My Savior than either CP or D&R quite frankly. I've said this before, but I honestly think she wants to move into the legacy act of her career and she is letting her musical output kind of lack a little bit as a result. Which is unfortunate because I firmly believe if she wanted to she could have 2-3 more decent sized album eras a la Storyteller. But I don't get the impression she wants that right now.

EDIT: I kind of wonder if that is due, in part, to her lack of a CMA EOTY win? I think we all know she is more stung at the snub than she will let us believe.

Agree with all of this. Feels like she’s trying to lean into being a legacy act about 5-10 years to early. I still feel like she has plenty of hype to still have a good 2-3 strong eras with top 3 or #1 songs.

[taylor is terrified]

Apr 5, 2023 5:13:26 GMT -5 zdm1998 said:

Apr 4, 2023 23:04:54 GMT -5 musicfan134 said:

I don't know if it's because it's more "pop leaning" but it definitely feels like Carrie has been rather disconnected/disinterested in her country music as of late. She seemed to be a lot more into My Gift and My Savior than either CP or D&R quite frankly. I've said this before, but I honestly think she wants to move into the legacy act of her career and she is letting her musical output kind of lack a little bit as a result. Which is unfortunate because I firmly believe if she wanted to she could have 2-3 more decent sized album eras a la Storyteller. But I don't get the impression she wants that right now.

EDIT: I kind of wonder if that is due, in part, to her lack of a CMA EOTY win? I think we all know she is more stung at the snub than she will let us believe.

Agree with all of this. Feels like she’s trying to lean into being a legacy act about 5-10 years to early. I still feel like she has plenty of hype to still have a good 2-3 strong eras with top 3 or #1 songs.

What would’ve helped with this was dropping HMH and bringing OOTT to radio ASAP, while the hype is still around it. It could easily be her biggest solo hit since “Church Bells” if it’s not too late. “Burn” should’ve been chosen in HMH’s place if they weren’t going to drop it.

If she is indeed working on a new album already, I’m saddened that D&R didn’t get nearly as much shine as it deserved but excited to hear what she has in store. Maybe it’ll be a sequel album, like “Growin’ Old” is for Luke Combs? That would be VERY cool to see, and something unique in Carrie’s career. If that’s the case, OOTT should be treated as a lead without question, unless there’s something even stronger.

[Hil]

Apr 5, 2023 5:13:26 GMT -5 zdm1998 said:

Apr 4, 2023 23:04:54 GMT -5 musicfan134 said:

I don't know if it's because it's more "pop leaning" but it definitely feels like Carrie has been rather disconnected/disinterested in her country music as of late. She seemed to be a lot more into My Gift and My Savior than either CP or D&R quite frankly. I've said this before, but I honestly think she wants to move into the legacy act of her career and she is letting her musical output kind of lack a little bit as a result. Which is unfortunate because I firmly believe if she wanted to she could have 2-3 more decent sized album eras a la Storyteller. But I don't get the impression she wants that right now.

EDIT: I kind of wonder if that is due, in part, to her lack of a CMA EOTY win? I think we all know she is more stung at the snub than she will let us believe.

Agree with all of this. Feels like she’s trying to lean into being a legacy act about 5-10 years to early. I still feel like she has plenty of hype to still have a good 2-3 strong eras with top 3 or #1 songs.

Maybe i misunderstand what you mean. I'm not sure anyone tries to move into the legacy act of their career. If you're saying she doesn't care what the critics and awards think, then you're absolutely right about that part. But I do think she wants to make good music for her legacy, and for her fans. Music that she loves, and has fun with. I think after Covid, and how heavy CP was, she wanted something light and fun. That being said, I do think she wants to stay relevant, so I could see her coming out with a more country sounding album next, not for awards, but for all the reasons I mentioned.

[zdm1998]

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I think what I’m meaning is it just doesn’t feel like she’s being very innovative. She’s not conforming to the new consumption of music with streaming/Tik Tok. She’s picking inferior tracks to be singles, over album tracks that have a lot more hit potential. She’s not going out of her comfort zone by working with different producers or songwriters because she’s comfortable. Not really going all out with promo with the album, after the initial album drop she hasn’t appeared on anything. All of this just makes it feel like she’s shifted.

[tigerman2022]

Apr 5, 2023 13:03:30 GMT -5 Hil said:

Apr 5, 2023 5:13:26 GMT -5 zdm1998 said:

Agree with all of this. Feels like she’s trying to lean into being a legacy act about 5-10 years to early. I still feel like she has plenty of hype to still have a good 2-3 strong eras with top 3 or #1 songs.

Maybe i misunderstand what you mean. I'm not sure anyone tries to move into the legacy act of their career. If you're saying she doesn't care what the critics and awards think, then you're absolutely right about that part. But I do think she wants to make good music for her legacy, and for her fans. Music that she loves, and has fun with. I think after Covid, and how heavy CP was, she wanted something light and fun. That being said, I do think she wants to stay relevant, so I could see her coming out with a more country sounding album next, not for awards, but for all the reasons I mentioned.

If it's in her heart to do it, I truly do hope she does an album leaning into a more traditional country sound/theme. For years, critics have said that she has the voice for it, especially the emotional "cry" that few other artists have. As I've said before, "Wine After Whiskey," "Low," and "Someday When I Stop Loving You" are some of her best. But, ultimately it's her legacy to leave. So, if she follows her heart and has no regrets, that will be a legacy she can be proud of. I also think she's not done with the gospel/inspirational path either. "My Savior" deserves a follow up, perhaps with some contemporary along with the traditional hymns. 

[Hil]

Apr 5, 2023 13:42:48 GMT -5 zdm1998 said:

^
I think what I’m meaning is it just doesn’t feel like she’s being very innovative. She’s not conforming to the new consumption of music with streaming/Tik Tok. She’s picking inferior tracks to be singles, over album tracks that have a lot more hit potential. She’s not going out of her comfort zone by working with different producers or songwriters because she’s comfortable. Not really going all out with promo with the album, after the initial album drop she hasn’t appeared on anything. All of this just makes it feel like she’s shifted.

Streaming and TikTok would be more up to her label and management I would think, or no?! I've heard she has most of the say about singles, so maybe getting more input? I really don't know, and not sure we will how much is on her and how much is the label. She said in some interview she's not the type of person who doesn't want advice. She said, we all want to be doing this for a very long time, so I'm always up for suggestions. Not sure it's the exact wording, but the sentiment of it. It was a recent interview. One that came out when D&R was released. It might have been the apple interview, I can't really remember the source. Not sure Carrie will ever be personally more active on socials, and i don't blame her in some ways. It's sort of a sewer to celebrities. Such nasty comments constantly.

[thewp]

Hil, I think she said that in Bobby bones promoting ghost story, iirc

[carrieidol1]

“Carrie Underwood, Thomas Rhett and Lady A are just a few of the artists who have signed on for a benefit show for Nashville's The Covenant School, following a late-March mass shooting that killed six people”.

tasteofcountry.com/carrie-underwood-thomas-rhett-benefit-nashville-school-shooting/

[drock89]

A bit confusing why a private, tuition-funded school would need a benefit concert.

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Apr 5, 2023 5:13:26 GMT -5 zdm1998 said:

Apr 4, 2023 23:04:54 GMT -5 musicfan134 said:

I don't know if it's because it's more "pop leaning" but it definitely feels like Carrie has been rather disconnected/disinterested in her country music as of late. She seemed to be a lot more into My Gift and My Savior than either CP or D&R quite frankly. I've said this before, but I honestly think she wants to move into the legacy act of her career and she is letting her musical output kind of lack a little bit as a result. Which is unfortunate because I firmly believe if she wanted to she could have 2-3 more decent sized album eras a la Storyteller. But I don't get the impression she wants that right now.

EDIT: I kind of wonder if that is due, in part, to her lack of a CMA EOTY win? I think we all know she is more stung at the snub than she will let us believe.

Agree with all of this. Feels like she’s trying to lean into being a legacy act about 5-10 years to early. I still feel like she has plenty of hype to still have a good 2-3 strong eras with top 3 or #1 songs.

Couldn’t agree more. She’s still one of the few country artists who has mainstream crossover and is very much a household name. She definitely has the potential / buzz to have at least two more strong eras with success like she saw with southbound and all of storyteller

[rome]

Apr 5, 2023 17:18:31 GMT -5 drock89 said:

A bit confusing why a private, tuition-funded school would need a benefit concert.

Seriously? Maybe she just wanted to do something nice for the school and the loved ones of those who were killed there in a horrible tragedy. I wonder if you'd be "confused" if it were a private school for any other religion, race, or a private LGBT organization - or are you only confused because it's for a Christian school?

By the way, I'm not even religious. Just curious as to why you are questioning someone doing a good deed like this.

[daddy]

Apr 6, 2023 7:39:21 GMT -5 rome said:

Apr 5, 2023 17:18:31 GMT -5 drock89 said:

A bit confusing why a private, tuition-funded school would need a benefit concert.

Seriously? Maybe she just wanted to do something nice for the school and the loved ones of those who were killed there in a horrible tragedy. I wonder if you'd be "confused" if it were a private school for any other religion, race, or a private LGBT organization - or are you only confused because it's for a Christian school?

By the way, I'm not even religious. Just curious as to why you are questioning someone doing a good deed like this.

I think the OP was commenting more on the wealthy school's need for a benefit concert vs Carrie's choice to partake in it. 

[andrebra]

Why would the money go to the school instead of the victim’s families??

[daddy]

Apr 6, 2023 9:46:32 GMT -5 andrebra said:

Why would the money go to the school instead of the victim’s families??

Who said this was happening? What’s going on here? 😂

[jenglisbe]

Apr 4, 2023 8:05:49 GMT -5 carrieidol1 said:

Carrie hasn’t done much to break through with the younger generations, who are generally extra “woke” and mainly respond to outspoken allies. Carrie’s conservative nature isn’t that appealing, and certainly won’t serve to grow her fan base these days.

Wait, what? The current biggest country artist right now is known for very un-woke things, so I don't see how this is true. To my knowledge Luke Combs and others haven't been 'woke' either. Maren hasn't exactly gained in popularity since being outspokenly "woke." My Savior was a big success for Carrie in a lot of ways, and it certainly isn't "woke."

Carrie and her team do need to find a way to strengthen her streaming appeal, but when it comes to country artists that doesn't mean being more outspokenly liberal. (All of that is separate from what I wish for personally; I very much love Maren and Kelsea for speaking out and wish Carrie would, too, if she felt so inclined, but I don't think that would help Carrie's commercial success in country music.)

[andrebra]

Apr 6, 2023 10:40:37 GMT -5 daddy said:

Apr 6, 2023 9:46:32 GMT -5 andrebra said:

Why would the money go to the school instead of the victim’s families??

Who said this was happening? What’s going on here? 😂

Lol literally read the article

[daddy]

Apr 6, 2023 11:08:01 GMT -5 andrebra said:

Apr 6, 2023 10:40:37 GMT -5 daddy said:

Who said this was happening? What’s going on here? 😂

Lol literally read the article

I'm super slow. I thought you meant the money was going to the university hosting the benefit concert. My apologies. I have Covid and am in a bit of a fever dream 

[rome]

Apr 6, 2023 10:48:57 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Apr 4, 2023 8:05:49 GMT -5 carrieidol1 said:

Carrie hasn’t done much to break through with the younger generations, who are generally extra “woke” and mainly respond to outspoken allies. Carrie’s conservative nature isn’t that appealing, and certainly won’t serve to grow her fan base these days.

Wait, what? The current biggest country artist right now is known for very un-woke things, so I don't see how this is true. To my knowledge Luke Combs and others haven't been 'woke' either. Maren hasn't exactly gained in popularity since being outspokenly "woke." My Savior was a big success for Carrie in a lot of ways, and it certainly isn't "woke."

Carrie and her team do need to find a way to strengthen her streaming appeal, but when it comes to country artists that doesn't mean being more outspokenly liberal. (All of that is separate from what I wish for personally; I very much love Maren and Kelsea for speaking out and wish Carrie would, too, if she felt so inclined, but I don't think that would help Carrie's commercial success in country music.)

Not only would it not help her appeal as a country artist, but it likely doesn’t actually reflect her personal values either. I know she’s voiced her support for same-sex marriage, but she’s still a very religious Christian woman who grew up in Oklahoma and is married to a man with the same religious beliefs. I have no doubt that Carrie open-minded, but I also think she has some very conservative values, so I can’t see her being down with the whole “woke” thing. I don’t know her personally, but it’s my guess. She seems to prefer the Dolly Parton route, which is to not comment on politics or current events. It’s honestly smart for her from a business perspective, considering progressive fans had a meltdown when she liked a tweet from Matt Walsh and liked her own husband’s Instagram post when he posted about being a guest on Candace Owens’ show - further supporting my theory that Carrie is probably more conservative than she is liberal.

[daddy]

This thread always comes back to Carrie’s politics. While only she knows what she stands for, I’m sure she’s not conservative enough for most conservatives and definitely not liberal enough for most liberals. Essentially, I think that if she were to share her political POVs more prominently, she’d turn off half her audience. I really don’t see the benefit of that 🤷🏽‍♂️