Carrie Underwood - “I’m Gonna Love You” #1 All-Genre iTunes

[carrieidol1]

My point really was that Carrie does/says nothing that goes viral. Social media is the way to break through with young audiences who drive the entertainment industry. For better or worse taking a stand and/or the threat of cancellation seems to be the way in with younger people. Personality doesn’t cut it anymore. Young people have been brought up in a polarized world and they want to know they’re aligned morally with who they support, for better or worse. Ambiguity in a polarized world is perceived as complacency, and GenZ isn’t into that at all. I realize this is a major generalization, but I think there’s something to it…


Re: Dolly

Sure, she doesn’t flail her politics, and she doesn’t disclose her affiliations. However, I think we all know she isn’t blaming trans people and drag queens for mass shootings, and she probably doesn’t think banning books is a good thing in any context. Her actions are her politics. She is an active and vocal LGBTQ+ ally, and she provides millions of books to children. We know where she stands and she doesn’t have to say a word about it. This is different from Carrie, whose philanthropy is geared towards animals and music education (which are great things!! … But relatively apolitical - probably on purpose).

[carriefan15]

^ How could you leave out her garden?? 😵😵😵

[Hil]

Apr 6, 2023 21:13:35 GMT -5 carrieidol1 said:

My point really was that Carrie does/says nothing that goes viral. Social media is the way to break through with young audiences who drive the entertainment industry. For better or worse taking a stand and/or the threat of cancellation seems to be the way in with younger people. Personality doesn’t cut it anymore. Young people have been brought up in a polarized world and they want to know they’re aligned morally with who they support, for better or worse. Ambiguity in a polarized world is perceived as complacency, and GenZ isn’t into that at all. I realize this is a major generalization, but I think there’s something to it…


Re: Dolly

Sure, she doesn’t flail her politics, and she doesn’t disclose her affiliations. However, I think we all know she isn’t blaming trans people and drag queens for mass shootings, and she probably doesn’t think banning books is a good thing in any context. Her actions are her politics. She is an active and vocal LGBTQ+ ally, and she provides millions of books to children. We know where she stands and she doesn’t have to say a word about it. This is different from Carrie, whose philanthropy is geared towards animals and music education (which are great things!! … But relatively apolitical - probably on purpose).

Carrie is never going to do anything to go viral. It's not happening, and honestly I can't see her putting herself in that position. That's great Maren and Kelsea spoke out, but I'm super curious where they're gonna be career wise?! I wonder if neither cared since they can't get radio airplay anyway?! I'm not trying to downplay the importance of their views, rather the realism of which they're living in terms of the business of country music. Will be interesting to see what happens. I see so much negativity for both of them on the regular anymore. I ask that question as country is living in peak Morgan Wallen world.

[Deleted]

At this rate, I think Carrie can go viral through more traditional ways. There is that song from the mega popular Netflix show Stranger Things last year that blew up. It was decades old and it went to top-five on the pop charts because it blew up and became so popular. My point? I think at this rate, if Carrie’s going to have anything go viral it’ll just be from if she’s in a TV show, like she was just in Cobra Kai, or one of her songs happens to ever go viral on TikTok if her label tries to promote it that way, which is possible.

[Typo]

Probably should’ve been the lead. This is a great performance. 🥂

[zdm1998]

Yeah I'm starting to eat my words in thinking that Pink Champagne should've been a single. That and Crazy Angels probably should've been the first two singles, with Angels being the lead. By far the best two connecting songs on the album from a sales/stream standpoint. Hoping OOTT is coming soon to save/wrap up the era, with a deluxe edition in the pipeline soon.

[Jae]

Whoa.  I'm gobsmacked that she was singing to a backing track.  I've never heard her do that before. What happened there as she came out of the breakdown??

[carrieidol1]

Apr 7, 2023 8:49:16 GMT -5 Jae said:

Whoa.  I'm gobsmacked that she was singing to a backing track.  I've never heard her do that before. What happened there as she came out of the breakdown??

Hmmm I think the point of that is to give the same sound affect as the recorded track. PC is one of few examples where Carrie layers her own vocals on the recorded track. Doing that live is impossible, but without would make the song sound very different…

I think this performance is great, and highlights a huge missed opportunity for a hit single.

[Jae]

Apr 7, 2023 8:59:36 GMT -5 carrieidol1 said:

Apr 7, 2023 8:49:16 GMT -5 Jae said:

Whoa.  I'm gobsmacked that she was singing to a backing track.  I've never heard her do that before. What happened there as she came out of the breakdown??

Hmmm I think the point of that is to give the same sound affect as the recorded track. PC is one of few examples where Carrie layers her own vocals on the recorded track. Doing that live is impossible, but without would make the song sound very different…

I think this performance is great, and highlights a huge missed opportunity for a hit single.

Yeah, I get that she was looking for the same layered sound but even still.  That's new ground for her and I'm not sure it excites me.  As it is she's pushing awfully hard on what should be easy songs for her to sing.

I was bitching from day one that PC should have been the unofficial lead, like the promo single to give her audience a taste of what she meant by "fun".  Instead we got the mess we got.  Her team is so out of touch it really borders on incompetence.  

[Ling-Ling]

"Pink Champagne" was the obvious first single IMO and would have made an excellent mission statement for the album. Imagine if we got a colorful, big budget video for it. Fun performances where, I dunno, she moves around and does something? Any attempt to make a play to social media and TikTok.

She and her team lack any sense of imagination/ambition and consistently make bewilderingly bad decisions. Again, I don't understand why she would record such a fun, glossy album if she was just gonna be boring, lol. Make it make sense.

[daddy]

"Crazy Angels" - and to a lesser extent - "Pink Champagne" are two songs that I've found generic, soccer-mom fodder since first listen and actually prefer "Hate My Heart" to both of these. This can be largely bc they're not the types of songs that pull me in as a listener. Although I hear a catchy song in there, the production on "Pink Champagne" makes it sound like a television advert. I think a countrier production could have worked well for the song. I do realize these songs have streamed better than most of the album though, so what do I know?

Hypothetically speaking, if "Out Of That Truck" was never a contender, I likely would have released "She Don't Know" as the first single to align with the albums theme of having fun, followed by "Burn". Then release OOTT with the special edition. If the album is doing well enough for a 4th single, throw out "Velvet Heartbreak", "Ghost Story", or "Hate My Heart" and see what it does.

I do feel like we're getting something soon. I predict a concert DVD or streaming special to coincide with a deluxe edition of the album (which includes OOTT). If it gets her a hit out of this era, I'd prefer this move over moving on to the next album so quickly. It gives her team time to correct what didn't work so well this era.

[tigerman2022]

Apr 7, 2023 9:20:10 GMT -5 daddy said:

"Crazy Angels" - and to a lesser extent - "Pink Champagne" are two songs that I've found generic, soccer-mom fodder since first listen and actually prefer "Hate My Heart" to both of these. This can be largely bc they're not the types of songs that pull me in as a listener. Although I hear a catchy song in there, the production on "Pink Champagne" makes it sound like a television advert. I think a countrier production could have worked well for the song. I do realize these songs have streamed better than most of the album though, so what do I know?

Hypothetically speaking, if "Out Of That Truck" was never a contender, I likely would have released "She Don't Know" as the first single to align with the albums theme of having fun, followed by "Burn". Then release OOTT with the special edition. If the album is doing well enough for a 4th single, throw out "Velvet Heartbreak", "Ghost Story", or "Hate My Heart" and see what it does.

I do feel like we're getting something soon. I predict a concert DVD or streaming special to coincide with a deluxe edition of the album (which includes OOTT). If it gets her a hit out of this era, I'd prefer this move over moving on to the next album so quickly. It gives her team time to correct what didn't work so well this era.

"She Don't Know" could have been a great video. There's a storyline, the lyrics clearly lay the visuals. Would have loved to see it come to fruition. 

[desertfloods]

I preferred Crazy Angels or Velvet Heartbreak as the lead, but wouldn't mind Pink Champagne too. Just not the mess that was picked.

Lol, I don't think I have ever disliked a Carrie single as much as GS. 🙊

[Max_X5]

Apr 7, 2023 11:48:31 GMT -5 desertfloods said:

I preferred Crazy Angels or Velvet Heartbreak as the lead, but wouldn't mind Pink Champagne too. Just not the mess that was picked.

It really is bewildering that for an album largely touted as being "fun," they went with "Ghost Story" as the lead single. I even like the song, but wow, what a horrendous choice to open this project with and let sell the record for seven whole months before moving on. This album may not have been the sophisticated old-school country masterpiece I was hoping for and believe Carrie's capable of, but it's still enjoyable nonetheless and should have been approached so much differently singles-wise.

[kath2833]

On Apple Music, out of that truck has a star next to it & it’s ahead of every song on D&R in her top songs list.

Assuming it’s apart of some deluxe D&R album, my guess is that she’d have to announce it sometime soon around 2 months before D&R’s one-year anniversary. That’s what she did for my gift special edition, so it’s possible she follows that route. But this is all a guess. Who knows if this is actually her plan for the song.

Not sure if this means anything, but Carrie does have a behind the song feature for OOTT as well.

[kath2833]

Apr 7, 2023 9:20:10 GMT -5 daddy said:

"Crazy Angels" - and to a lesser extent - "Pink Champagne" are two songs that I've found generic, soccer-mom fodder since first listen and actually prefer "Hate My Heart" to both of these. This can be largely bc they're not the types of songs that pull me in as a listener. Although I hear a catchy song in there, the production on "Pink Champagne" makes it sound like a television advert. I think a countrier production could have worked well for the song. I do realize these songs have streamed better than most of the album though, so what do I know?

Hypothetically speaking, if "Out Of That Truck" was never a contender, I likely would have released "She Don't Know" as the first single to align with the albums theme of having fun, followed by "Burn". Then release OOTT with the special edition. If the album is doing well enough for a 4th single, throw out "Velvet Heartbreak", "Ghost Story", or "Hate My Heart" and see what it does.

I do feel like we're getting something soon. I predict a concert DVD or streaming special to coincide with a deluxe edition of the album (which includes OOTT). If it gets her a hit out of this era, I'd prefer this move over moving on to the next album so quickly. It gives her team time to correct what didn't work so well this era.

Didn’t she film a Florida D&R tour show for YouTube or YouTube Music? Wonder if that will lead anywhere.

[14887fan]

Apr 7, 2023 9:13:39 GMT -5 Ling-Ling said:

"Pink Champagne" was the obvious first single IMO and would have made an excellent mission statement for the album. Imagine if we got a colorful, big budget video for it. Fun performances where, I dunno, she moves around and does something? Any attempt to make a play to social media and TikTok.

She and her team lack any sense of imagination/ambition and consistently make bewilderingly bad decisions. Again, I don't understand why she would record such a fun, glossy album if she was just gonna be boring, lol. Make it make sense.

My absolute biggest gripes with this era, perfectly encapsulated into one post. This era had potential, and it was thoroughly squandered by this silly, incessant need to be radio friendly and promote the least adventurous tracks from the record.

[Hil]

Apr 7, 2023 7:15:21 GMT -5 Typo said:

Probably should’ve been the lead. This is a great performance. 🥂

I was previously on the no way should PC be a single after GS, because it just felt too pop to me. However, starting off with it as a lead single would have been interesting, and made sense due to the description of the album as fun. And it was a fun album. I'm def not a producer lol so maybe this would sound wonky, but it would have made me super confident if they would have added a little fiddle. It's funny how a single instrument is often times the distinction btwn country and pop. Also, why did CMT make PC private?

[schnetzka]

Presuming "Hate My Heart" is the final single from the album, I don't understand why she is giving up on the era so soon. I mean I know that it takes songs longer to climb the charts these days but something about this era specifically made it feel like Carrie wasn't as in tune with it. I know she said the album was supposed to be fun but honestly this era didn't really feel that fun except for maybe a few performances. Something feels off but I can't pinpoint what it is.

[dbhmr]

Weird that releasing two middling, nothing-burger singles didn't set this Super Fun & Glossy Tour Album up for more commercial success...

[Typo]

HMH was a promo single to bridge the gap between the release of TRUCK and the Deluxe album.

Apr 7, 2023 15:10:02 GMT -5 Hil said:

Also, why did CMT make PC private?

I think it was supposed to be posted on Carrie’s official channel first.

[matty005]

Apr 7, 2023 17:36:12 GMT -5 Typo said:

HMH was a promo single to bridge the gap between the release of TRUCK and the Deluxe album.

Apr 7, 2023 15:10:02 GMT -5 Hil said:

Also, why did CMT make PC private?

I think it was supposed to be posted on Carrie’s official channel first.

Is this confirmed or just a rumor/guess (regarding the deluxe album)?

[Typo]

A rumor!

[Deleted]

I just don’t get Carrie’s teams decisions. IMO, GS and HMH were the total definition of album tracks. Ghost Story has very little to do with marketing this album as a fun and glossy project. Almost any other song from the album would’ve been a better lead single. It’s so disappointing how this era could have been much bigger and a lot more fun. Somehow her team is so unimaginative they made a fun album / era come off as really boring overall 🫤

[desertfloods]

^ I am not going to just put all the blame on the team. Carrie has A LOT of say.

[soulfulwings]

Am I the only one who thought Ghost Story was indeed the best choice for a lead single from Denim & Rhinestones?!It was catchy and had a good video aswell. Although I think Hate My Heart is more of a fourth single kind of song instead of second but it is still a good choice for a single also.

[jamatthews83]

No you're not. Nothing on this album made an impact outside of Crazy Angels, and that is more of a second single than a lead.

[kath2833]

More stats, on her youtube channel, OOTT is almost at 300k views & has more views than 7 D&R tracks.

[schnetzka]

I understand Carrie's reasoning for making "Ghost Story" the first single. She said it is most like her former stuff and she was right so I can see her wanting to release it first to ease people into the album.

[Deleted]

Apr 7, 2023 23:35:42 GMT -5 desertfloods said:

^ I am not going to just put all the blame on the team. Carrie has A LOT of say.

Yeah, I agree with this. I was just refraining from saying it since a lot of times fans get testy if they see any slight Carrie criticism lol