Carrie Underwood - “I’m Gonna Love You” #1 All-Genre iTunes

[carriefan15]

^ Yesssss! It’s about to crazy….Crazy Angels incoming!!

[bigd79]

Yeah. I like Ghost Story much more than i did when it first came out, but either Crazy Angels or Burn should have been the lead. And even though i love that the album came out fairly quick after the release of GS, i think the album would have benefitted from either a different lead single or waiting til august or september to release D&R. But whats done is done and we just have to hope that the next single plus the tour will generate interest in the album again.

I truly believe that Burn needs to be single #2. I actually think its a better sound for the fall/winter as opposed to PC or CA. One of those can be single 3 for next spring/summer. My 2¢ at least.

[kath2833]

Does anyone know if the vinyl contains all the same beautiful images as the cd's lyric booklet?

It's sad to hear that this album is doing poorly. It's my favorite CU album & I believe there's a lot of heart & passion put into it. I think Burn should've already been released as the 2nd single. It's the perfect summer song with the bonfire & beach settings. Then there's the compelling emotion in her voice as she sings it.

[Mike]

[Hil]

I don't see the point of rushing a new song out. Let GS climb and see where it ends up. There's not some wave of hype the album riding right now. It will make the same difference for the album whether the next single is released tomorrow or two months from now depending on the promo. GS wasn't a great first single. It didn't get many people excited, even though lots of us think it's a great song. It's a grower. I kinda think the same happened with the D&R promo single. It's more of a pop song with some country lyrics. Not sure those particular songs connected with country fans outside of her base. I think this era will be fine with the next singles and the tour. Assuming she picks the singles chosen by the peeps on this board. lol

pulsemusic.proboards.com/thread/212833/pick-singles-denim-rhinestones

[zdm1998]

Jul 23, 2022 18:26:23 GMT -5 Hil said:

I don't see the point of rushing a new song out. Let GS climb and see where it ends up. There's not some wave of hype the album riding right now. It will make the same difference for the album whether the next single is released tomorrow or two months from now depending on the promo. GS wasn't a great first single. It didn't get many people excited, even though lots of us think it's a great song. It's a grower. I kinda think the same happened with the D&R promo single. It's more of a pop song with some country lyrics. Not sure those particular songs connected with country fans outside of her base. I think this era will be fine with the next singles and the tour. Assuming she picks the singles chosen by the peeps on this board. lol

pulsemusic.proboards.com/thread/212833/pick-singles-denim-rhinestones

This is where I'm at. The damage of having Ghost Story as the lead single is done, lower first week sales, less hype, etc. were all greatly contributed from GS not being very impactful. It's not going to make a difference right now if they drop this now or when it peaks (in 2-3 months.) Why not wait out the only reward we could get from having this as a single (a potential #1 song.)

Just launch single #2 around the CMA time and call it a day. 

[jenglisbe]

Is it even a given that "GS" will get to #1?

[14887fan]

Jul 24, 2022 6:54:22 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Is it even a given that "GS" will get to #1?

Hardly. Also I know I say this all the time but…why do people care about country radio anymore? Besides how often they’ve shown their asses in so many gross ways lately, it’s an antiquated relic that holds virtually zero representation of what is actually popular with the masses nowadays. Most of the folks selling out arenas and stadiums aren’t the ones with these consistently-manufactured #1 pushes. I wish CU fans would throw in the towel on putting so much stock in requesting at radio and shift more priority to streaming her music on major platforms.

For what it’s worth to anyone that’s interested, the tour is selling very well. She’s absolutely made a strong name for herself as a live performance force that people genuinely feel they need to see.

[Hil]

Jul 24, 2022 18:03:42 GMT -5 14887fan said:

Jul 24, 2022 6:54:22 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Is it even a given that "GS" will get to #1?

Hardly. Also I know I say this all the time but…why do people care about country radio anymore? Besides how often they’ve shown their asses in so many gross ways lately, it’s an antiquated relic that holds virtually zero representation of what is actually popular with the masses nowadays. Most of the folks selling out arenas and stadiums aren’t the ones with these consistently-manufactured #1 pushes. I wish CU fans would throw in the towel on putting so much stock in requesting at radio and shift more priority to streaming her music on major platforms.

For what it’s worth to anyone that’s interested, the tour is selling very well. She’s absolutely made a strong name for herself as a live performance force that people genuinely feel they need to see.

I absolutely agree with everything you said, but I also disagree at the same time. What you said makes perfect sense, except in the country community radio still matters a great deal when it comes to clout,

awards etc. If it didn't, no one would be trying to get number ones. I''m not sure how they can help her streaming. I think maybe radio and streaming go hand in hand?! Other than that I'm assuming they'll have to pay to get her on more lists since her career wasn't born in the streaming era. I do think the album will end up being fine as it does have a great deal of radio friendly/stream worthy songs. Glad the tour is selling well, she's such an amazing performer.

[jenglisbe]

Jul 24, 2022 20:00:25 GMT -5 Hil said:

I think maybe radio and streaming go hand in hand?!

Not really, or at least there's no guarantee. Artists like Morgan Wallen and Luke Combs get good airplay and streaming, but other artists/songs do not. Here is this past week's top 10 on Country Airplay, with their Streaming position noted:
1. "Damn Strait" - not top 25
2. "Wasted On You" - #3
3. "Take My Name" - not top 25
4. "7500 OBO" - not top 25
5. "Trouble With A Heartbreak" - not top 25
6. "Like I Love Country Music" - #11
7. "New Truck" - not top 25
8. "Best Thing Since Backroads" - not top 25
9. "At the End of A Bar" - not top 25
10. "Last Night Lonely" - not top 25

You can see there is no real parallel, outside of Morgan Wallen. A bit of that is because some of the songs doing well in streaming have gone recurrent in airplay, or haven't yet peaked in airplay, but still; the two chart are very different. Radio certainly has its place and the airplay chart doesn't need to exactly match the streaming chart, but these two are very different. Additionally, though, very few of the songs in the airplay top 10 are on albums in the top 20 so these radio hits aren't fueling streams or album sales. I don't know what's in it for the labels to get radio hits.

[taylor is terrified]

[freeman]

Really cool info on that ghostly whispering in the beginning of Ghost Story! Love this!

[jenglisbe]

Something about that "Blame It On Your Heart" cover doesn't work for me; Carrie wounds whiny or something. Maybe it isn't a good key for her? I'd have loved to hear her on "Here I Am."

[taylor is terrified]

Really interesting about that whispering in the beginning of GS. Turns out it wasn’t Parseltongue after all!  That’s a cool touch to the song!

[misterscribbs]

Jul 25, 2022 19:22:23 GMT -5 freeman said:

Really cool info on that ghostly whispering in the beginning of Ghost Story! Love this!

This is honestly an incredibly detail. We serve a literary genius.

[God]

Sorry, you can't tell me it isn't a direct sample of the Sirens Media logo

[bornfearless2000]

As much as i want GS to reach #1, i feel like its time for second single or send a song to HAC/Pop while pushing for GS to #1. We just got a new era a month ago but it feels like the era is over because there’s no hype around GS.

[taylor is terrified]

[tigerman2022]

Carrie sang "Years," an emotional Barbara ballad. It was beautiful. It's also always a treat to hear her do "Wasted."

[jenglisbe]

Aug 1, 2022 12:41:28 GMT -5 @underwood said:

Has ‘Ghost Story’ peaked yet? I’m so ready for a new single and for the new era to keep moving forward!

Lol nope. Assuming they are pushing for it to get #1 or at least close, it will be at least another month before it peaks, if not 2 months. Country radio moves sloooow.

[carrieidol1]

Aug 1, 2022 12:41:28 GMT -5 @underwood said:

Has ‘Ghost Story’ peaked yet? I’m so ready for a new single and for the new era to keep moving forward!

Stalled right outside the top 10, but not really showing signs that it’s done. It’s still marginally gaining, and it sorta seems like the label does plan to push this at some point. It has been stalled for a few weeks now; if they didn’t plan to push it, I doubt they would’ve bothered keeping it where it’s at…

At this point, I think single #2 comes mid fall in time to perform at the CMAs (assuming she’s there). I think they’ll stick with GS through the end of the summer; hoping for a shot at #1, but pushing for the highest possible peak when possible if #1 can’t happen from now into October. Relatively speaking, GS is still pretty young for a country single, so I do think they’re sticking with it for a while for sure..

[jenglisbe]

Aug 1, 2022 12:50:28 GMT -5 carrieidol1 said:

Aug 1, 2022 12:41:28 GMT -5 @underwood said:

Has ‘Ghost Story’ peaked yet? I’m so ready for a new single and for the new era to keep moving forward!

Stalled right outside the top 10, but not really showing signs that it’s done. It’s still marginally gaining, and it sorta seems like the label does plan to push this at some point. It has been stalled for a few weeks now; if they didn’t plan to push it, I doubt they would’ve bothered keeping it where it’s at…

At this point, I think single #2 comes mid fall in time to perform at the CMAs (assuming she’s there). I think they’ll stick with GS through the end of the summer; hoping for a shot at #1, but pushing for the highest possible peak when possible if #1 can’t happen from now into October. Relatively speaking, GS is still pretty young for a country single, so I do think they’re sticking with it for a while for sure..

Yeah the current #1 and #2 on Billboard Country Airplay are both around 40 weeks of charting. There are 4 other songs in the top 10 that are around 40 weeks (with one over 50 weeks), and Tim McGraw hit #1 a couple weeks ago when he was close to 50 weeks of charting. "Ghost Story" has been charting for half as much time. It is just crazy how slow country radio moves right now. I just don't see how that helps anyone, though, as projects lose all momentum in that time.

[desertfloods]

Aug 1, 2022 13:28:16 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Aug 1, 2022 12:50:28 GMT -5 carrieidol1 said:

Stalled right outside the top 10, but not really showing signs that it’s done. It’s still marginally gaining, and it sorta seems like the label does plan to push this at some point. It has been stalled for a few weeks now; if they didn’t plan to push it, I doubt they would’ve bothered keeping it where it’s at…

At this point, I think single #2 comes mid fall in time to perform at the CMAs (assuming she’s there). I think they’ll stick with GS through the end of the summer; hoping for a shot at #1, but pushing for the highest possible peak when possible if #1 can’t happen from now into October. Relatively speaking, GS is still pretty young for a country single, so I do think they’re sticking with it for a while for sure..

Yeah the current #1 and #2 on Billboard Country Airplay are both around 40 weeks of charting. There are 4 other songs in the top 10 that are around 40 weeks (with one over 50 weeks), and Tim McGraw hit #1 a couple weeks ago when he was close to 50 weeks of charting. "Ghost Story" has been charting for half as much time. It is just crazy how slow country radio moves right now. I just don't see how that helps anyone, though, as projects lose all momentum in that time.

Something has GOT to change. 50 weeks is insanely slow.

[bornfearless2000]

Almost one year for one single is too slow LOL
Be like Kacey, screw country radio.







(But i won’t be mad if Carrie gets another #1 song on country radio 😂)

[musicfan134]

50 weeks for a single at radio...are we sure we want more than like 2 singles? I'd like another album before 2025 please.

[carrieidol1]

Is the radio issue political? It’s almost like radio executives have so many artist teams to please these days that it takes an actual year to do so... I remember the 90s and 00s when there was the same group of like 15-20 artists churning out hits, in almost a cycled fashion, at any given time. It was an anomaly to see more than one or two new artists in the top 10, or even top 20. Now, it’s literally anyone’s game… THE MOST random people come out of nowhere all the time with mega hits, all while country radio tries to stick with their 15-20 artists at-a-time trend.

I imagine labels lobby radio like corporations lobby Congress, maybe that’s not the best way to look at it… Nevertheless, it seems radio wants to control hits, while also pleasing as many teams possible by keeping so many singles in moderate rotation over a whole year. It seems entirely intentional..

Still, I just think they have so many releases to cycle through that it genuinely takes a year for any song that isn’t a smash out of the gate to peak. This is compounded by our social media world in which an unknown song becomes a smash overnight, without radio playing a part. Radio then has to pick up a song that’s already a smash to stay relevant, sailing it up the charts past all the song that are literally waiting in line for #1. This would happen occasionally back in the day, but now it seems to be a norm.

Maybe it’s not as clearcut as I described, but I just wonder if at all has to do with the label/radio politics of maintaining control of the industry, in a world where the consumer has more control than ever before?

[countrymancarriefan]

This is clearly off topic but I didn’t know if y’all saw Carrie’s CMA submissions that have made it to the second round of voting that starts tomorrow!!! She still in the running for…
Entertainer Of The Year
Female Vocalist Of The Year
Album Of The Year - “Denim and Rhinestones” Artist/Producer
Single Of The Year - If I Didn't Love You
Musical Event Of The Year- IIDLY
Music Video Of The Year -IIDLY & Ghost Story

[carrieidol1]

You can see all the CMA shortlists here:

www.cmanomineeshowcase.com/2022/entertainer-of-the-year/


I think she has a solid shot at ‘Entertainer’ and ‘Female’ nominations. I imagine IIDLY will probably get some combo of Single/Song/Video. I don’t see “Ghost Story” getting anything, and ‘Album’ looks very competitive so I’m not holding my breath there.

My only reason to believe ‘Female’ might happen is that it’s on the strength of an eligible country album release, but the competition is stiff there as well so I could totally see a night in which Carrie’s only solo nomination is ‘Entertainer’, or none at all aside from whatever IIDLY gets.

[carriefan15]

Aug 2, 2022 20:01:51 GMT -5 carrieidol1 said:

You can see all the CMA shortlists here:

www.cmanomineeshowcase.com/2022/entertainer-of-the-year/


I think she has a solid shot at ‘Entertainer’ and ‘Female’ nominations. I imagine IIDLY will probably get some combo of Single/Song/Video. I don’t see “Ghost Story” getting anything, and ‘Album’ looks very competitive so I’m not holding my breath there.

My only reason to believe ‘Female’ might happen is that it’s on the strength of an eligible country album release, but the competition is stiff there as well so I could totally see a night in which Carrie’s only solo nomination is ‘Entertainer’, or none at all aside from whatever IIDLY gets.

I am going to choose to live in my own dillusional Carrie stan bubble I have created for myself several years ago, and I see her being nominated for absolutely everything on the list. GS and IIDLY will double in their eligible categories too! 🥳 can’t wait!!!

[jenglisbe]

Aug 2, 2022 16:41:13 GMT -5 carrieidol1 said:

I remember the 90s and 00s when there was the same group of like 15-20 artists churning out hits, in almost a cycled fashion, at any given time. It was an anomaly to see more than one or two new artists in the top 10, or even top 20.

Wait, when was this? I can think of 10-15 women who were routinely getting hits in the 1990s, and we know there were plenty of men doing so as well.

Still, I just think they have so many releases to cycle through that it genuinely takes a year for any song that isn’t a smash out of the gate to peak.

This, which is why "GS" has been stalled around #12 for weeks now. It's like it just has to bide it's time until there is space. This is all why an airplay hit rarely means anything to me anymore.

As for the CMAs and EOTY; what has Carrie done within the eligibility year? Their eligibility year always throws me off, but I don't think Carrie had much of a tour during this eligibility?