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Post by lostsockno4 on Sept 15, 2022 13:57:18 GMT -5
She will be guesting on CCUSA for 9/17 and 9/24. Should help things.
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Post by bigd79 on Sept 15, 2022 21:18:21 GMT -5
I don’t even know how one can listen to CCUSA anymore. The station that played it near me stopped carrying it in july/august, which is kinda strange given they are more local and in a smaller market and not owned by iheart/cumulus etc but of course i do not know the ins and outs of how they decide to program their station either. Maybe the rights of the show required the move? Thats my guess at least.
If someone does know where you can hear it, please enlighten me!
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Post by raylatch98 on Sept 15, 2022 21:30:32 GMT -5
I don’t even know how one can listen to CCUSA anymore. The station that played it near me stopped carrying it in july/august, which is kinda strange given they are more local and in a smaller market and not owned by iheart/cumulus etc but of course i do not know the ins and outs of how they decide to program their station either. Maybe the rights of the show required the move? Thats my guess at least. If someone does know where you can hear it, please enlighten me! I have two stations near me that play 107.3 and 98.1 in Michigan, the former plays it 7am EST to 10am on Saturday, and the latter does it at 9am to Noon on Sunday. I imagine you could be able to hear either on those stations online at those times. That's my best guess. Sorry if I am not much help.
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Post by lostsockno4 on Sept 17, 2022 21:03:59 GMT -5
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Post by recordyear on Sept 17, 2022 21:12:44 GMT -5
She really wants to capitalize HARDY's fame in the genre huh
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Post by misterscribbs on Sept 17, 2022 21:33:24 GMT -5
She really wants to capitalize HARDY's fame in the genre huh Now that you mention it, this was probably the plan from the start. It makes sense I guess from a business perspective. I like HMH, and I think it will fare fine at radio. But I think there are better choices, but this certainly isn’t the worst. But if we get a concert music video again, yuck.
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Post by jab820 on Sept 17, 2022 22:43:20 GMT -5
I have ALWAYS thought "Hate My Heart" was the smash from the incredible options. It's such an ear worm to me. I really, really hope it ends up as the single.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Sept 17, 2022 23:28:40 GMT -5
I have ALWAYS thought "Hate My Heart" was the smash from the incredible options. It's such an ear worm to me. I really, really hope it ends up as the single. Same here it’s my favourite from the album and I’ve already chosen it as the next single on my personal chart haha
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Post by bigd79 on Sept 18, 2022 0:18:56 GMT -5
HARDY is the hot songwriter of the moment so it would not shock me if this is accurate. I won’t believe it 100% til i see an impact date though
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Post by zdm1998 on Sept 18, 2022 5:44:23 GMT -5
I will GLADLY take Hate My Heart as the next single. Even though it’s not in my top 3 (because the album is that stacked) I still really enjoy it and think it’d do well.
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Post by bigd79 on Sept 18, 2022 11:31:18 GMT -5
^agree with you, not in my top 3, prob not even top 5, but i do really like the song and think it has a chance to do really well. Better than GS for sure.
And in a surprising twist my station that had not had CCUSA on for the last month or so has it back on this morning! Currently listening right now.
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Post by Sugar Rush on Sept 18, 2022 16:13:24 GMT -5
The more I think about it, I feel HMH is the safe choice.
I personally love Burn, but feel it’d be a Drinking Alone situation again. Fan favourite that really doesn’t fit for country radio.
Pink Champagne I think would be a good summer single, but not something appropriate for the fall.
The only other two tracks I’d see working as a single to follow up Ghost Story is Velvet Heartbreak or She Don’t Know, but with how long it takes songs to climb I feel HMH may even be the last single this era..
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Post by raylatch98 on Sept 18, 2022 16:26:01 GMT -5
The more I think about it, I feel HMH is the safe choice. I personally love Burn, but feel it’d be a Drinking Alone situation again. Fan favourite that really doesn’t fit for country radio. Pink Champagne I think would be a good summer single, but not something appropriate for the fall. The only other two tracks I’d see working as a single to follow up Ghost Story is Velvet Heartbreak or She Don’t Know, but with how long it takes songs to climb I feel HMH may even be the last single this era.. I mean realistically we are probably looking at a 30-35 week chart climb for the follow up which probably puts us in early Summer give or take a couple weeks, with how long Carrie Underwood takes to make studio albums (there was a 4 year gap between Cry Pretty and Denim & Rhinestones) I can easily see this album having a third single, and maybe a 4th if Carrie Underwood doesn't have anything new anytime soon at all. I doubt they stop at two singles.
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Post by Hil on Sept 18, 2022 16:58:12 GMT -5
The more I think about it, I feel HMH is the safe choice. I personally love Burn, but feel it’d be a Drinking Alone situation again. Fan favourite that really doesn’t fit for country radio. Pink Champagne I think would be a good summer single, but not something appropriate for the fall. The only other two tracks I’d see working as a single to follow up Ghost Story is Velvet Heartbreak or She Don’t Know, but with how long it takes songs to climb I feel HMH may even be the last single this era.. I disagree about Burn being a drinking alone situation. It's hard to predict radio these days, but Burn reminds me of a Dan & Shay song and I think it would do well at radio. PC is the real mystery and risky song to me.
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Post by zdm1998 on Sept 18, 2022 16:58:49 GMT -5
Three singles are a lock. It’s questionable if we still get 4, but like what Ray said, if she doesn’t have anything new ready, and single 2 and 3 don’t perform too bad, I could see them still going 4 deep.
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Post by matty005 on Sept 18, 2022 17:05:34 GMT -5
Three singles are a lock. It’s questionable if we still get 4, but like what Ray said, if she doesn’t have anything new ready, and single 2 and 3 don’t perform too bad, I could see them still going 4 deep. I think 4 singles is only possible if one races up the charts or one doesn't do well and the label pulls it. This song has been out 6 months (and is a lead single). That means single 2 would peak in March 2023. The third single September 2023. And the 4th single March 2024. I can't imagine that happening.
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Post by zdm1998 on Sept 18, 2022 17:24:12 GMT -5
Three singles are a lock. It’s questionable if we still get 4, but like what Ray said, if she doesn’t have anything new ready, and single 2 and 3 don’t perform too bad, I could see them still going 4 deep. I think 4 singles is only possible if one races up the charts or one doesn't do well and the label pulls it. This song has been out 6 months (and is a lead single). That means single 2 would peak in March 2023. The third single September 2023. And the 4th single March 2024. I can't imagine that happening. It’d be similar to the Cry Pretty era though. Under that timeframe single 4 would peak 3 months before the two year anniversary of the album. Last era, Drinking Alone peaked in June 2020, which was three months shy of the two year anniversary of the Cry Pretty album as well. I could see them ending at three though. I think it’s a coin toss honestly. If she has a high profile duet lined up in the future I could see them ending at 3 in favor of it. I think a lot of it rides on how the next so singles perform.
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Post by gardyfan on Sept 18, 2022 17:39:35 GMT -5
The more I think about it, I feel HMH is the safe choice. I personally love Burn, but feel it’d be a Drinking Alone situation again. Fan favourite that really doesn’t fit for country radio. Pink Champagne I think would be a good summer single, but not something appropriate for the fall. The only other two tracks I’d see working as a single to follow up Ghost Story is Velvet Heartbreak or She Don’t Know, but with how long it takes songs to climb I feel HMH may even be the last single this era.. I disagree about Burn being a drinking alone situation. It's hard to predict radio these days, but Burn reminds me of a Dan & Shay song and I think it would do well at radio. PC is the real mystery and risky song to me. Oh boy Carrie does not deserve that at all. D&S are more boring than watching paint dry.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Sept 18, 2022 18:16:45 GMT -5
I think 4 singles is only possible if one races up the charts or one doesn't do well and the label pulls it. This song has been out 6 months (and is a lead single). That means single 2 would peak in March 2023. The third single September 2023. And the 4th single March 2024. I can't imagine that happening. It’d be similar to the Cry Pretty era though. Under that timeframe single 4 would peak 3 months before the two year anniversary of the album. Last era, Drinking Alone peaked in June 2020, which was three months shy of the two year anniversary of the Cry Pretty album as well. I could see them ending at three though. I think it’s a coin toss honestly. If she has a high profile duet lined up in the future I could see them ending at 3 in favor of it. I think a lot of it rides on how the next so singles perform. Single 2, “Love Wins”, came out right after the album came out though. Single #2 here will go for adds in late October/early November, 5 months after the album came out. Matty’s timeframe he listed above is probably pretty accurate. I think 4 singles is definitely a stretch if singles 2 & 3 take 30+ weeks to peak unless, like others have said, they just throw out another one to kill time before the next lead.
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Post by Hil on Sept 18, 2022 18:18:26 GMT -5
I disagree about Burn being a drinking alone situation. It's hard to predict radio these days, but Burn reminds me of a Dan & Shay song and I think it would do well at radio. PC is the real mystery and risky song to me. Oh boy Carrie does not deserve that at all. D&S are more boring than watching paint dry. LOL I love their music. But anyway unless Carrie has a duet or another project I don't see any reason they won't go four singles. She always has. Regardless of how fast or slow radio is it keeps her out there cause she always waits like three years for the next album.
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Post by raylatch98 on Sept 18, 2022 21:41:44 GMT -5
I do think we could see a fourth single like we're seeing with Eric Church right now who I think is at a pretty similar (maybe slightly) and the fourth single would be a pure placeholder for new music/duet (remember it was a full year between "Drinking Alone" peaking and "If I Didn't Love You" being released).
I will say I am glad this is missing #1 just because it has been a non event for a while now and all of the songs above it feel so much bigger (Cole Swindell, Luke Combs, Morgan Wallen, Ingrid Andress/Sam Hunt, and Tyler Hubbard) that "Ghost Story" really sticks out like a sore thumb among the Top 10 on radio (just wish this also happened more often with the male songs of the same caliber).
Hopefully whatever the next single is can connect on a pretty big scale as "Ghost Story" is such a surface level song in terms of connecting with people (I'm not asking for "Blown Away" levels of connect but something on the lines of the Storyteller singles would be nice).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2022 0:23:09 GMT -5
]Hopefully whatever the next single is can connect on a pretty big scale as "Ghost Story" is such a surface level song in terms of connecting with people (I'm not asking for "Blown Away" levels of connect but something on the lines of the Storyteller singles would be nice). IMHO, I think “burn” or “crazy angels” would give Carrie an easy #1 like we saw with storyteller. Outside those two I don’t know if there are any sure bets
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Post by zdm1998 on Sept 19, 2022 8:02:56 GMT -5
I do think we could see a fourth single like we're seeing with Eric Church right now who I think is at a pretty similar (maybe slightly) and the fourth single would be a pure placeholder for new music/duet (remember it was a full year between "Drinking Alone" peaking and "If I Didn't Love You" being released). I will say I am glad this is missing #1 just because it has been a non event for a while now and all of the songs above it feel so much bigger (Cole Swindell, Luke Combs, Morgan Wallen, Ingrid Andress/Sam Hunt, and Tyler Hubbard) that "Ghost Story" really sticks out like a sore thumb among the Top 10 on radio (just wish this also happened more often with the male songs of the same caliber). Hopefully whatever the next single is can connect on a pretty big scale as "Ghost Story" is such a surface level song in terms of connecting with people (I'm not asking for "Blown Away" levels of connect but something on the lines of the Storyteller singles would be nice). I mean those are arguably some of the biggest songs of the year, so I think its just unfortunate timing. While interest has dwindled now mainly due to the long chart run, it still connected moderately well earlier in it's chart run, and it sucks that the female song is the one that they shut out from #1 due to it not connecting as well as the others, while songs 7500 OBO and Best Things Since Backroads, which connected poorer than this one, were able to get a pass to #1.
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Post by daddy on Sept 19, 2022 13:24:54 GMT -5
I do think we could see a fourth single like we're seeing with Eric Church right now who I think is at a pretty similar (maybe slightly) and the fourth single would be a pure placeholder for new music/duet (remember it was a full year between "Drinking Alone" peaking and "If I Didn't Love You" being released). I will say I am glad this is missing #1 just because it has been a non event for a while now and all of the songs above it feel so much bigger (Cole Swindell, Luke Combs, Morgan Wallen, Ingrid Andress/Sam Hunt, and Tyler Hubbard) that "Ghost Story" really sticks out like a sore thumb among the Top 10 on radio (just wish this also happened more often with the male songs of the same caliber). Hopefully whatever the next single is can connect on a pretty big scale as "Ghost Story" is such a surface level song in terms of connecting with people (I'm not asking for "Blown Away" levels of connect but something on the lines of the Storyteller singles would be nice). I mean those are arguably some of the biggest songs of the year, so I think its just unfortunate timing. While interest has dwindled now mainly due to the long chart run, it still connected moderately well earlier in it's chart run, and it sucks that the female song is the one that they shut out from #1 due to it not connecting as well as the others, while songs 7500 OBO and Best Things Since Backroads, which connected poorer than this one, were able to get a pass to #1. This timing really makes me wish they had released this song earlier, to coincide the album release with the launch of single #2. But who would have known. I imagine a similar sized hit from a male artists with “Ghost Story’s” call outs would be an easy #1.
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Post by Jack on Sept 19, 2022 16:34:17 GMT -5
Is HMH likely to help the tour sell better? People throughout the forums (Popjustice and ATRL) continue to mention it's selling poorly.
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Post by Typo on Sept 19, 2022 21:30:11 GMT -5
“People throughout the forums” lol.
All it takes is a scan through Ticketmaster to realize that’s not true. Of the dates approaching next month, multiple are nearing sellout territory (Greenville SC, Grand Rapids MI) and multiple are approaching just the upper seats (Rosemont IL, Tulsa OK). Quite a few of the 2023 dates (Los Angeles CA, Jacksonville FL, Tampa FL) look to be selling strongly too.
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Post by 14887fan on Sept 19, 2022 21:43:21 GMT -5
Can 100% confirm the tour is not selling poorly. Quite the opposite.
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Post by gardyfan on Sept 19, 2022 22:29:47 GMT -5
If it was selling so poorly tickets would get discounted closer to shows, which certainly hasn't happened here. In fact they have gone up.
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Post by Jack on Sept 20, 2022 7:12:11 GMT -5
Is ’people on the forums’ where hyperbolic or frivolous language crosses the line? Yes, people on various forums I looked happen around, made mention of the fact that the tour wasn’t selling well. Which surprised me given the manner in which it’s spoken about on here. Here, I’ve consistently seen people shoo away the poor album sales and another single’s long journey to a non-eventful chart performance with the massive tour she’s about to embark on. And she is, indeed, about to embark on a tour of massive venues. I then thought to myself, ‘who is the more reliable narrator’…half a dozen people talking about Carrie like they’re on Idolforums in 2007, or passive Pop music fans? “People throughout the forums” lol. All it takes is a scan through Ticketmaster- Cool. Done. True. It looks like the zomgxs!hilarious users I mentioned might be painting a more accurate picture. Bearing in mind the the the floors and VIP pits all have un-quantifiable amounts remaining too. It may be bc she’s just sold a shedload of tickets in Vegas, it may be because of the economy, the thud of the album, another slog of a single run, being tarred and feathered with accusations about her/her husband’s political beliefs or some combination of all of that, but it’s not a nearly a runaway smash, the extent to which it’s being hailed as. Realism about that might have informed the single choice (uptempo/Hardy connections may be more of a live music draw than a ballad), is all. And like has been mentioned, many dates have sold enough to fill the first tier of a lot of these places; and as with a lot of tours post-pandemic, arenas are perfectly equipped to close off and move down the smattering of seats sold on the upper level, which make optics better. There’s also months in some cases to sell remaining tickets. The mere idea that tour is not Bad Bunny/Coldplay/Ed Sheeran/Adele record-breaking stepping stone to a headlining Super Bowl slot in between Denim and Rhinestones next five singles, I understand, is predictably drawing outrage. That said, sober acknowledgement that her career choices in the short term might be in service of helping another venture (one that will likely be over long before Hate My Heart peaks) sell better, needn’t illicit drama.
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Post by freshgirl on Sept 20, 2022 7:30:54 GMT -5
So far near sellout(several hundred tickets left) Oct 15 Bon Secours Wellness Arena , Greenville, SC Oct 18 Van Andel Arena, Grand Rapids, MI Oct 25 Target Center, Minneapolis, MN Oct 31 BOK Center, Tulsa, OK Nov 03 Toyota Center - TX, Houston, TX Nov 05 Smoothie King Center, New Orleans, LA Nov 13 T-Mobile Center, Kansas City, MO Nov 17 Vivint Arena, Salt Lake City, UT Feb 04 Amalie Arena, Tampa, FL Feb 06 VyStar Veterans Arena, Jacksonville, FL Feb 11 Mohegan Sun Arena, Uncasville, CT Feb 22 Wells Fargo Center-PA, Philadelphia, PA Feb 24 John Paul Jones Arena, Charlottesville, VA Mar 11 Desert Diamond Arena, Glendale, AZ Mar 13 Crypto.com Arena, Los Angeles, CA
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