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Post by degen on Apr 2, 2022 18:47:21 GMT -5
I think itβs a combination of a lot of things. Harry being gone for a minute and the listeners starving for something new from a major pop star. Sure, we have Ed Sheeran and The Weeknd. But its evident theyβve oversaturated themselves at this point. This just goes to show that pop stars should go back to the model of releasing an album every 2 years or so WITHOUT collabos, etc. in between.
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Post by atg on Apr 2, 2022 19:41:29 GMT -5
I think if big name artists wanna drop something that has already dropped 6-24 months ago, they should just either do loose singles or a mixtape and call it a day. That way it doesnβt oversaturate the market for them and will still keep their name buzzing without the need to lose any potential chart performance whenever they come back to release an official studio album. Thatβs just my take on it though.
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Post by atg on Apr 2, 2022 19:48:55 GMT -5
I think itβs a combination of a lot of things. Harry being gone for a minute and the listeners starving for something new from a major pop star. Sure, we have Ed Sheeran and The Weeknd. But its evident theyβve oversaturated themselves at this point. This just goes to show that pop stars should go back to the model of releasing an album every 2 years or so WITHOUT collabos, etc. in between. In the case of Abel, if he had dropped Dawn FM at the end of this month when the Vinyl and Cassettes are ready and on board. On top of releasing TMB in January and maybe releasing Out Of Time as a single just prior to the albumβs release, we couldβve seen a whole different era compared to what we got. It does follow the 2 year thing and does create prolonged hype if done this way. Even though if he has ORN, You Right and SYT still around, releasing Dawn FM now would still be more successful compared to what happened.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Apr 3, 2022 2:39:21 GMT -5
As It Was is basically a worse version of Less Than Zero with a much weaker chorus. I think the song builds forever but never goes anywhere. I feel exactly the same way, the song feels like it's building towards something huge but it sorta just fades out. Pretty underwhelming comeback single.
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Post by After Minutes on Apr 3, 2022 7:05:31 GMT -5
I think that one thing that most people here are missing when comparing Harry to Abel or Dua is that he simply has a much, much bigger fanbase; probably one of the biggest in the world, and it is also pretty uniform when it comes to their preferences. With The Weeknd, for example, while his fanbase is huge, it is split between different groups. The bulk of the people who consume Abel's music are pop fans. They got into his stuff through Starboy or After Hours, and they expect a different sound than the older, urban fans. For Dua, her first huge era was Future Nostalgia, and there simply wasn't enough time for her to fully develop a fanbase that would be as eager as Harry's.
Obviously, anticipation is also a huge part of the difference between their debuts, I'm not denying that. I'm only stating that it isn't the only thing playing a part in that. Harry has been in the public eye for over a decade with a boyband that was even bigger than BTS at it's peak. Abel has been an A-lister for five years less, while Dua has been near that level for two or three years. Naturally, I think, that is also why Justin is still a commercial behemoth, and why Lil Nas X or Doja will be bigger and bigger with every new era. The internet is reshaping the way careers of artists go. With them being able to stay connected with their fans constantly, there is a much smaller risk of them growing out of their favourite artists, if those artists grow alongside their fans. Similarly, with music consumption now being free, being a fan, or at least and idle listener doesn't cost anything.
While how well these artists actually perform may fluctuate, I believe that someone like Drake will have the potential to get hits for at least a decade longer, if not more. To smash, their songs need to connect with people, but the potential for that connection will be much bigger for much longer.
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Post by fridayteenage on Apr 3, 2022 7:17:15 GMT -5
1d used to own the spotify record and got 350k opening sales for their last opening single.
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Post by Enigma. on Apr 3, 2022 8:07:36 GMT -5
It's interesting because on Spotify, Harry actually has LESS monthly listeners than Lady Gaga for instance (34M vs. 38M) but his fanbase is obviously fanatic and pretty large.
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Post by After Minutes on Apr 3, 2022 8:11:23 GMT -5
It's interesting because on Spotify, Harry actually has LESS monthly listeners than Lady Gaga for instance (34M vs. 38M) but his fanbase is obviously fanatic and pretty large. I mean he has less songs
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Apr 3, 2022 8:17:09 GMT -5
Fifth single confirmed:
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Post by Skibidi Bop Bop on Apr 3, 2022 8:25:07 GMT -5
Just a random question : Do you think guys NFT format in music will become a future consumption in music? I heard its getting engagement from several artist recently.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Apr 3, 2022 8:28:21 GMT -5
Just a random question : Do you think guys NFT format in music will become a future consumption in music? I heard its getting engagement from several artist recently. Maybe after someone can explain what the hell it is.
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Post by joshtheking on Apr 3, 2022 8:40:29 GMT -5
It'll be interesting to see how far this gets with radio. Would love it to be a hit, but I'm afraid it might be too late since the streaming has peaked. Though it could have another run like Woman
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Post by Au$tin on Apr 3, 2022 8:53:29 GMT -5
Just a random question : Do you think guys NFT format in music will become a future consumption in music? I heard its getting engagement from several artist recently. NFTs are not a way to consume anything. It could count as a sale I guess, but that's it. As I understand it (because it's entirely convoluted and contrived), an NFT is nothing but a file you purchase the rights to in order to "own" that thing. I personally don't understand how that even works with music. So you own the NFT. But surely that doesn't mean you own the distribution rights of that file? It would still be in the hands of the label, right? And surely you couldn't use that file in a film or commercial, right? Because, again, yeah, you own the file, but does that mean the synchronization rights of the entire song are yours? And if not... what's the point of "owning" this file? How would it be any different from a purchase of a physical single/album besides the medium? I get why it could be favored over digital downloads as those you still don't technically "own" the files, but still... I just don't see it as something that's going to catch on in any major way. NFTs as a whole just seem like a scam or a way to launder money.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Apr 3, 2022 9:50:48 GMT -5
^Anyway, here's a primer on music NFTs:
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Post by Au$tin on Apr 3, 2022 10:02:00 GMT -5
^Anyway, here's a primer on music NFTs: Well now I'm even more certain NFTs for music are never going to take off. Selling all of the rights of the music? Never getting paid again for its usage? Unless you're a mega star that rakes in the money through touring, that's a good way to ensure you never make enough money back for the effort spent on actually creating it. Plus the entire process includes cryptocurrency and blockchaining technology that the vast majority of music consumers don't even understand on top of insane prices. I think we can rest assured that in its current state, NFTs will remain only for the elite and niche.
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Post by WolfSpear on Apr 3, 2022 10:10:32 GMT -5
I think streaming will remain the top format for a long time. I mean, how much more can you cheapen the experience?
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Apr 3, 2022 10:11:24 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates Β« 2022 Β» / Β« 04 Β» / Β« 03 Β»
1(=) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 88.54(-0.21) 2(=) The Kid Laroi & Justin Bieber - Stay 80.70(-0.45) 3(=) Lil Nas X - THATS WHAT I WANT 80.10(+0.20) 4(=) Doja Cat - Woman 78.25(+0.26) 5(+1) Latto & Mariah Carey - Big Energy (Remix) [feat. DJ Khaled] 74.61(+1.42) + 6(-1) Justin Bieber - Ghost 74.33(-0.11) 7(=) Imagine Dragons - Enemy From League Of Legends 70.29(+0.85) 8(=) GAYLE - abcdefu (feat. Royal & the Serpent) 62.96(-0.91) 9(=) Post Malone & The Weeknd - One Right Now 57.17(-0.15) 10(=) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 57.10(+0.25)
20(=) Muni Long - Hrs And Hrs 38.74(+0.66)
25(+2) Lauren Spencer-Smith - Fingers Crossed 35.21(+0.61)
54(=) Jnr Choi - To The Moon 22.15(+0.87)
90(+40) Harry Styles - As It Was 14.46(+4.04) + -(-) J Balvin & Ed Sheeran - Forever My Love 10.53(+1.06)
-(-) Shawn Mendes - When You're Gone 5.19(+1.67)
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Post by 85la on Apr 3, 2022 12:10:40 GMT -5
^Anyway, here's a primer on music NFTs: I guess my main questions about NFTs, that this article didn't fully address, are: 1) How much do they cost? 2) Is the quality of these files any better than a traditional download, and what do they include that a traditional download doesn't? 3) What can you "do" with this file that you can't do with a traditional download? 4) And also, I'm assuming that multiple copies of these files can't be created or sold, because then they would no longer be NFTs? And in that case, it could never be a mass-consumption model if only one person per song could buy it, even if it could fetch a high price and would be profitable for the artist, but as before mentioned, if you can't do anything more with this file other than what you can already do with a traditional download, and it is in no perceivable way qualitatively different (other than bragging rights I guess to say you own the "original"), who would buy it?
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Apr 3, 2022 12:16:18 GMT -5
Just a random question : Do you think guys NFT format in music will become a future consumption in music? I heard its getting engagement from several artist recently. fuck no
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Apr 3, 2022 12:24:16 GMT -5
I don't expect this to do much except stem some of the streaming losses it has been getting given that I would expect the Grammys to have a greater effect on the songs and artists involved:
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Apr 3, 2022 12:57:44 GMT -5
If you actively push for NFTs to be accepted, you are bad for doing so
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Post by JukeboxJacob on Apr 3, 2022 14:09:08 GMT -5
As It Was = Golden lite
I still like it tho and at least people are listening to something new
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Post by Choco on Apr 3, 2022 14:45:05 GMT -5
NFTs already tanked in the gaming industry and companies there are quietly distancing themselves from NFTs so I expect the music industry to end up like that as well.
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Post by Mayman on Apr 3, 2022 14:49:45 GMT -5
Do we still not have yesterday's Spotify numbers?
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Post by kindofbiased on Apr 3, 2022 15:03:06 GMT -5
I might be missing something but I'll be real I'm not hearing the As It Was and Golden comparisons. They've got somewhat similar vibes but they're very distinct from one another imo
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Post by π‘πππππ€ on Apr 3, 2022 16:06:43 GMT -5
Do we still not have yesterday's Spotify numbers? noβ¦. π
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Post by livelightning on Apr 3, 2022 18:21:44 GMT -5
If the spotify numbers keep dropping like this (probably won't), Heat waves will be back at #1 by next week lol
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Post by annoymous1 on Apr 3, 2022 18:22:09 GMT -5
As It Was is still #1. Shawn is At #10 π¬.
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Post by gikem on Apr 3, 2022 18:29:18 GMT -5
If the spotify numbers keep dropping like this (probably won't), Heat waves will be back at #1 by next week lol Nah, I think Harry will have genuine album hype on his side this time. I recall Drake's songs from CLB having a similar natural drop-off on its second day, back in the olden days when streaming was much stronger overall.
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Post by Mayman on Apr 3, 2022 18:31:20 GMT -5
If the spotify numbers keep dropping like this (probably won't), Heat waves will be back at #1 by next week lol I doubt it lol. I see him stabilizing in the 1-2 million range by the end of the week.
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