Billboard Hot 100: 05/07/2022

[mms82]

Apr 28, 2022 10:27:12 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

US Spotify - 04/27/22

14(+32) Zach Bryan - Something in the Orange 525,061 (+154,724)

Might be my least favorite of the four songs he released from his upcoming album, but it's still a great song and amazing to see his success. Do we think he might get his first ever Hot 100 Debut with this? Heading South deserved, definitely my favorite song of the past three years

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Apr 28, 2022 11:05:00 GMT -5 rosalina4812 said:

All these theatrics and yet you forgot to put Wants and Needs on the actual chart.

I didn't forget, I'm not tracking something that already had a full chart run unless there's a real chance it could re-enter. That's why I wasn't tracking No Role Modelz until it hit the Top 10

[Gary]

Apr 28, 2022 10:09:54 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

To be honest, the only important thing I’m watching about Drake is to see if and when he gets the 57th and 58th Top 10s to tie and surpass Paul McCartney’s total Top 10s (unless, of course, Wonderful Christmastime becomes McCartney’s 58th Top 10, then I’ll watch for Drake’s 58th and 59th Top 10s). But even when Drake surpasses McCartney’s total, it won’t change my opinion that McCartney is the greatest musician of all-time.

Paul Mccartney is pushing 80 - there may be other ways to get his songs to the top 10 besides Christmas

[badrobot]

Can someone explain to me the situation with Willow's "Wait a Minute" not charting? I keep seeing it so high on the Spotify daily numbers, and I know it's an older song, but it never made the Hot 100 before as far as I can tell -- are they treating it as a recurrent, and/or does it really not have enough points to make the chart?

[kimberly]

Apr 28, 2022 13:00:33 GMT -5 badrobot said:

Can someone explain to me the situation with Willow's "Wait a Minute" not charting? I keep seeing it so high on the Spotify daily numbers, and I know it's an older song, but it never made the Hot 100 before as far as I can tell -- are they treating it as a recurrent, and/or does it really not have enough points to make the chart?

songs older than 2 years get treated as a recurrent even if they didn't chart initially. one of those rules that don't really make sense, imo.

"Wait a Minute" would hypothetically be allowed in if it reached Top 50, like "Truth Hurts" was.

[phieaglesfan712]

The problem is Billboard is inconsistent about the application of the rules for older songs that haven’t charted. They just allowed Tom’s Diner to chart in the bottom 50, even though it was from 2019.

[notgoodenglish]

MAMIII smashing and stable !

[atg]

Apr 28, 2022 12:04:02 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Apr 28, 2022 11:05:00 GMT -5 rosalina4812 said:

All these theatrics and yet you forgot to put Wants and Needs on the actual chart.

I didn't forget, I'm not tracking something that already had a full chart run unless there's a real chance it could re-enter. That's why I wasn't tracking No Role Modelz until it hit the Top 10

I have a feeling it might re enter if it continues gaining on overall streaming. No Role Modelz probably needs to gain more AM traction if it wants to re enter as well.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Apr 28, 2022 14:04:36 GMT -5 atg said:

Apr 28, 2022 12:04:02 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

I didn't forget, I'm not tracking something that already had a full chart run unless there's a real chance it could re-enter. That's why I wasn't tracking No Role Modelz until it hit the Top 10

I have a feeling it might re enter if it continues gaining on overall streaming. No Role Modelz probably needs to gain more AM traction if it wants to re enter as well.

Even taking out of the equation we have a month of album bombs to follow that'll cripple it's momentum, it's currently #22 on the recurrent charts and the only reason it's in the Top 10 of Spotify isn't really that it's getting a ton of streams (arguably it actually had more daily streams a few months ago), it's that the charts are weak right now and thus it crept into the Top 10.

It's not re-entering any time soon.

[Gary]

Re-entering also requires a "meaningful reason" for resurgence. What is "meaningful" is left open to interpretation of course

[iHype.]

Apr 28, 2022 13:00:33 GMT -5 badrobot said:

Can someone explain to me the situation with Willow's "Wait a Minute" not charting? I keep seeing it so high on the Spotify daily numbers, and I know it's an older song, but it never made the Hot 100 before as far as I can tell -- are they treating it as a recurrent, and/or does it really not have enough points to make the chart?

If Truth Hurts, Good As Hell, etc were treated as recurrents then there would be no reason not to also have Wait A Minute be viewed the same.

So yeah, it has to have enough points for Top 50. N/A on Streaming Songs, and virtually 0 airplay.

If you’re going to make top 50 while basically only having one component then you need to be at least be top 25ish on Streaming theoretically.

[Enigma.]

Gonna be smash I can feel it

[badrobot]

Apr 28, 2022 14:24:01 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Apr 28, 2022 13:00:33 GMT -5 badrobot said:

Can someone explain to me the situation with Willow's "Wait a Minute" not charting? I keep seeing it so high on the Spotify daily numbers, and I know it's an older song, but it never made the Hot 100 before as far as I can tell -- are they treating it as a recurrent, and/or does it really not have enough points to make the chart?

If Truth Hurts, Good As Hell, etc were treated as recurrents then there would be no reason not to also have Wait A Minute be viewed the same.

So yeah, it has to have enough points for Top 50. N/A on Streaming Songs, and virtually 0 airplay.

If you’re going to make top 50 while basically only having one component then you need to be at least be top 25ish on Streaming theoretically.

Is it really not top 50 in streaming, or is it just not charting there because it's considered recurrent?

These Spotify updates seem to consistently have it in the top 20 and even very close to top 10. I know it's possible it's doing worse on other streaming platforms.

How high was Nirvana on streaming when they re-entered due to Batman? I'm recalling they were quite a bit higher than WAM so perhaps it's not as close to top 50 Hot 100 as I would've thought.

[Enigma.]

Nirvana reached #2 on Spotify if I recall...

[Gary]

There is no recurrent rules on streaming

Nirvana was #18 on streaming

[jenglisbe]

So, Billboard has always been random with their records. I was looking something up and came across this in a Chart Beat column in 1998 that talked about Madonna's "Frozen."
"It would mark the fourth consecutive studio album in which the first single had a one-word title that went top five." He then notes Mariah Carey did it, too. LMAO!!!

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

I wouldn’t call that a “record” and I’m sure they don’t either. Just an interesting distinction or thing to mention is all.

[kindofbiased]

Apr 28, 2022 12:29:58 GMT -5 Gary said:

Apr 28, 2022 10:09:54 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

To be honest, the only important thing I’m watching about Drake is to see if and when he gets the 57th and 58th Top 10s to tie and surpass Paul McCartney’s total Top 10s (unless, of course, Wonderful Christmastime becomes McCartney’s 58th Top 10, then I’ll watch for Drake’s 58th and 59th Top 10s). But even when Drake surpasses McCartney’s total, it won’t change my opinion that McCartney is the greatest musician of all-time.

Paul Mccartney is pushing 80 - there may be other ways to get his songs to the top 10 besides Christmas

yeah but I really hope THAT'S not the way Paul gets another top 10 hit :(

[iHype.]

Apr 28, 2022 14:49:47 GMT -5 badrobot said:

Apr 28, 2022 14:24:01 GMT -5 iHype. said:

If Truth Hurts, Good As Hell, etc were treated as recurrents then there would be no reason not to also have Wait A Minute be viewed the same.

So yeah, it has to have enough points for Top 50. N/A on Streaming Songs, and virtually 0 airplay.

If you’re going to make top 50 while basically only having one component then you need to be at least be top 25ish on Streaming theoretically.

Is it really not top 50 in streaming, or is it just not charting there because it's considered recurrent?

These Spotify updates seem to consistently have it in the top 20 and even very close to top 10. I know it's possible it's doing worse on other streaming platforms.

How high was Nirvana on streaming when they re-entered due to Batman? I'm recalling they were quite a bit higher than WAM so perhaps it's not as close to top 50 Hot 100 as I would've thought.

It was #25 on the Spotify Weekly chart last week which is what’s relevant to the past week of it missing Streaming Songs.

It doesn’t have high numbers on Spotify. The chart (outside the top 2) is extremely weak and very close in numbers. #10 daily is only doing 200k more streams than #50. #10 daily is only doing 300k more streams than #200.

When you factor in it wasn’t top 50 on Apple Music, and was below top 100 on Amazon Music that leaves space for many other songs to makeup the Spotify margin.

[85la]

Apr 28, 2022 16:00:07 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

So, Billboard has always been random with their records. I was looking something up and came across this in a Chart Beat column in 1998 that talked about Madonna's "Frozen."
"It would mark the fourth consecutive studio album in which the first single had a one-word title that went top five." He then notes Mariah Carey did it, too. LMAO!!!

Does this refer to the fourth consecutive studio album Madonna released up to Ray of Light? I Guess that makes sense:

I'm Breathless - Vogue
Erotica - Erotica
Bedtime Stories - Secret
Ray of Light - Frozen

Though I always thought I'm Breathless wasn't considered a studio album, even though it wasn't the soundtrack, it was still "Music from and inspired by the film Dick Tracy," implying some songs were directly from the movie, some just "inspired" by it, so in a way it was sort of a semi-soundtrack and marketed as a companion piece to the film.

[jenglisbe]

Apr 28, 2022 18:49:18 GMT -5 85la said:

Apr 28, 2022 16:00:07 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

So, Billboard has always been random with their records. I was looking something up and came across this in a Chart Beat column in 1998 that talked about Madonna's "Frozen."
"It would mark the fourth consecutive studio album in which the first single had a one-word title that went top five." He then notes Mariah Carey did it, too. LMAO!!!

Does this refer to the fourth consecutive studio album Madonna released up to Ray of Light? I Guess that makes sense:

I'm Breathless - Vogue
Erotica - Erotica
Bedtime Stories - Secret
Ray of Light - Frozen

Though I always thought I'm Breathless wasn't considered a studio album, even though it wasn't the soundtrack, it was still "Music from and inspired by the film Dick Tracy," implying some songs were directly from the movie, some just "inspired" by it, so in a way it was sort of a semi-soundtrack and marketed as a companion piece to the film.

He mentioned "Vogue," so yes. I think the general rule for soundtracks, holiday albums, etc is that they count if they help the record or streak and don't count if they don't help it. Funny but true.

[nathanalbright]

Seems legit.

[85la]

Lol

[hughster1]

Apr 28, 2022 18:51:01 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Apr 28, 2022 18:49:18 GMT -5 85la said:

Does this refer to the fourth consecutive studio album Madonna released up to Ray of Light? I Guess that makes sense:

I'm Breathless - Vogue
Erotica - Erotica
Bedtime Stories - Secret
Ray of Light - Frozen

Though I always thought I'm Breathless wasn't considered a studio album, even though it wasn't the soundtrack, it was still "Music from and inspired by the film Dick Tracy," implying some songs were directly from the movie, some just "inspired" by it, so in a way it was sort of a semi-soundtrack and marketed as a companion piece to the film.

He mentioned "Vogue," so yes. I think the general rule for soundtracks, holiday albums, etc is that they count if they help the record or streak and don't count if they don't help it. Funny but true.

Coincidentally "Vogue" was the song that broke another "number of words" chart statistic Madonna had going: until then all of her number ones ("Like a Virgin," "Crazy for You," "Live to Tell," "Papa Don't Preach," "Open Your Heart," "Who's That Girl," and "Like a Prayer") had exactly three words in the title. (Two of the four she'd get after "Vogue" - "Justify My Love" and "Take a Bow" - also had three-word titles.)

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^That makes This Used to Be My Playground the outlier in terms of #1 song titles for her.

[Gary]

Longest official #1 song title overall

(Hey Won't You Play)Another Somebody Done Somebody Wrong Song

Honorable mention too

"Medley: Intro 'Venus' / Sugar Sugar / No Reply / I'll Be Back / Drive My Car / Do You Want to Know a Secret / We Can Work It Out / I Should Have Known Better / Nowhere Man / You're Going to Lose That Girl / Stars on 45"
(officially charted as "Medley")

[badrobot]

Apr 28, 2022 14:53:41 GMT -5 Gary said:

There is no recurrent rules on streaming

Nirvana was #18 on streaming

oh wow ok, so Willow is pretty far from the chart, then. I think I'm just projecting because I've been listening to it a lot lately lol.

[mms82]

Apr 26, 2022 21:09:37 GMT -5 loveless said:

Is this appearing on Spotify or Apple and has potential to chart? It’s a bop of a joke song

[thegreatdivine]

Tracklist for Harry's forthcoming album.

[Darkest Hour]

All these re-entry talks and I don't see any talks regarding Tennessee Whiskey (#7 on recurrent this week). Its streams look like stronger and stronger every week even though the performance is 6.5 years old.