Billboard Hot 100: 05/28/2022

[dremolus - solarpunk]

May 16, 2022 15:12:37 GMT -5 kimberly said:

May 16, 2022 7:49:38 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

"Revisitable" isn't something to describe most Kendrick albums, at least if you're just a casual fan who won't care about lyrics. DAMN. and the Black Panther album are the most accessible Kendrick projects and yet are among his weakest. Again, let's just celebrate one of the best albums of the year is on tracking to having one of the biggest debuts of the year, "longevity" be damned.

I mean, DAMN literally won a Pulitzer, the most prestigious writing award in the world, and the first time ever it went to a non-jazz album.

"accessible" and "popular" =/= weak. in fact, it can be an album's greatest strength, which sounds like where thegreatdivine disagrees with some of the discussion. Kendrick was able to cover heavy subjects while still racking in incredible streaming numbers with his past work, so the rapid decline of his latest project is a surprise, and might speak to how his audience feels about the project.

while I agree that not all great albums have to have a certain "replay value," I don't think an album can be a 100-rated masterpiece if it opens with 100M streams on Friday and falls below 10M by Thursday. that's a very harsh decline for an album that is supposed to be introspective, thought-provoking and moving. 

1. I never said DAMN. was bad, just that it was weakest AMONGST Kendrick discography. The bar is set so high for Kendrick that I could say it is amongst his weakest album while still saying it is a great album, still one of my favorite of 2017. And I think I should've clarified that being accessible and popular isn't always bad: I do really like the fact Kendrick is able to make a lot of catchy, melodic rap music while still being able to write mature, complex music. It just personal preference that I like the more mainstream oriented albums like To Pimp a Butterfly and Untitled Unmastered the most.

2. I don't really think the declining numbers are a sign that people think the album is "bad" or that it isn't "thought-provoking and moving". I said this earlier; not all audiences who supposedly like Kendrick will listen to him the same way. There's the fans who will relisten to this album over and over again, really dissecting the lyrics and coming to their own interpretations, while there others who, while recognizing Kendrick as one of the best rappers of all time, will mostly come for any good melodies and beats (anecdotately: my older brother falls into former camp and my sister falls into the latter). I'm not saying one audience is better than the other, it's just different preferences and let's be honest: most of the general listening public falls into the latter rather than the former, and I think that's the big reason why it's not resonating with people more. You used the example of Jessie Ware earlier: Jessie's last album was easily more friendly, fun, and accessible than this album so it's not that big of a surprise it got more attention thanks to the critical acclaim.

Like if you were just a casual music listener and just on your commute or in public, it does make sense that the more lighthearted, upbeat, and fun Bad Bunny album is being streamed more than the darker, complex Kendrick album that dives into uncomfortable subject matter and isn't very heavy on big hooks and melodies.

Ftr: Mr. Morale is like the best rap album of the year so far and yeah, the lack of "replay value" in terms of hooks doesn't bother me too much. It's still so creative and uncompromisingly raw and uncomfortable, it's hard not to love it.

[wavey.]

Imo, I think DAMN was his most mainstream after GKMC. Even with that it was still fire lol. I love his versatility and storytelling.

[bbfan97]

I loved the album. Kendrick is the GOAT

[thegreatdivine]

Mr. Morale & the Big Steppers on US Apple Music after 96 hours:
2(=). N95
3(=). Silent Hill
4(=). Die Hard
7(-1). Father Time
8(=). Rich Spirit
9(-4). United In Grief
14(+3). Count Me Out
16(-4). Worldwide Steppers
17(-3). We Cry Together
19(+1). Savior
20(-2). Purple Hearts
24(-2). Rich (Interlude)
26(-1). Crown
27(-1). Mr. Morale
29(-2). Savior (Interlude)
32(-3). Auntie Diaries
39(-1). Mother I Sober
43(-1). Mirror

[Limited Edition]

I can see N95, Die Hard, Silent Hill + maybe Father Time and Rich Spirit having decent longevity from this Kendrick album. They are the most accessible songs from the album. I'm really rooting for Father Time, fantastic song.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

You Proof at #5 at Apple Music ... I don't think anybody expected that at this point.

[Skibidi Bop Bop]

Hello guys. For project purpose only. Does anyone here have data/source or idea of the total numbers of songs that debuts at number 1 in UK? I cannot find any articles online or forum.

[𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤]

May 15, 2022 2:04:37 GMT -5 After Minutes said:

SloMo could be big in the iberoamerican sphere, Spaceman sounds and feels like a UK hit and Hold Me Closer has potential to do great in continental Europe, but whether they smash globally remains to be seen. Stefania will probably do the best at the beginning but doubt it'll have much staying power. Honestly Supermodel is decent and since Maneskin actually have a base it could do well too

I wouldn't count Space Man out, especially considering I would've said the same thing about Arcade in 2019. SloMo does sound like a hit, idk get Anitta on a remix.

I don't know if Hold Me Closer will do much outside of continental Europe, but I personally think it sounds like a smash. Weirdly enough, the highest Eurovision song on the UK Midweek chart (aside from Ryder) is Give That Wolf a Banana lol

also - the new Ethel Cain album is AMAZING. Go listen.

[kimberly]

May 16, 2022 21:17:13 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

May 16, 2022 15:12:37 GMT -5 kimberly said:

I mean, DAMN literally won a Pulitzer, the most prestigious writing award in the world, and the first time ever it went to a non-jazz album.

"accessible" and "popular" =/= weak. in fact, it can be an album's greatest strength, which sounds like where thegreatdivine disagrees with some of the discussion. Kendrick was able to cover heavy subjects while still racking in incredible streaming numbers with his past work, so the rapid decline of his latest project is a surprise, and might speak to how his audience feels about the project.

while I agree that not all great albums have to have a certain "replay value," I don't think an album can be a 100-rated masterpiece if it opens with 100M streams on Friday and falls below 10M by Thursday. that's a very harsh decline for an album that is supposed to be introspective, thought-provoking and moving. 

1. I never said DAMN. was bad, just that it was weakest AMONGST Kendrick discography. The bar is set so high for Kendrick that I could say it is amongst his weakest album while still saying it is a great album, still one of my favorite of 2017. And I think I should've clarified that being accessible and popular isn't always bad: I do really like the fact Kendrick is able to make a lot of catchy, melodic rap music while still being able to write mature, complex music. It just personal preference that I like the more mainstream oriented albums like To Pimp a Butterfly and Untitled Unmastered the most.

2. I don't really think the declining numbers are a sign that people think the album is "bad" or that it isn't "thought-provoking and moving". I said this earlier; not all audiences who supposedly like Kendrick will listen to him the same way. There's the fans who will relisten to this album over and over again, really dissecting the lyrics and coming to their own interpretations, while there others who, while recognizing Kendrick as one of the best rappers of all time, will mostly come for any good melodies and beats (anecdotately: my older brother falls into former camp and my sister falls into the latter). I'm not saying one audience is better than the other, it's just different preferences and let's be honest: most of the general listening public falls into the latter rather than the former, and I think that's the big reason why it's not resonating with people more. You used the example of Jessie Ware earlier: Jessie's last album was easily more friendly, fun, and accessible than this album so it's not that big of a surprise it got more attention thanks to the critical acclaim.

Like if you were just a casual music listener and just on your commute or in public, it does make sense that the more lighthearted, upbeat, and fun Bad Bunny album is being streamed more than the darker, complex Kendrick album that dives into uncomfortable subject matter and isn't very heavy on big hooks and melodies.

Ftr: Mr. Morale is like the best rap album of the year so far and yeah, the lack of "replay value" in terms of hooks doesn't bother me too much. It's still so creative and uncompromisingly raw and uncomfortable, it's hard not to love it.

we will have to agree to disagree then. to me, an artist of Kendrick's stature should not be on pace to lose 90% of daily streams within the week if the project is truly hitting and getting its message across. from dropping unnecessary f-bombs to being generally boring, this album wasn't even my favorite album that came out on Friday.

[JukeboxJacob]

Is Kendrick's album flopping, what am I missing? I'm too busy to keep up with the charts lately

[dremolus - solarpunk]

May 17, 2022 0:29:15 GMT -5 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 said:

the new Ethel Cain album is AMAZING. Go listen.

This plus Florence Welch's album, both were really good

[thegreatdivine]

May 17, 2022 3:07:59 GMT -5 JukeboxJacob said:

Is Kendrick's album flopping, what am I missing? I'm too busy to keep up with the charts lately

No, it isn't "flopping" by any stretch of the imagination. It should debut with > 300k units, enough to be the biggest opening week of the year (so far). It's just that it's streaming performance so far, especially on Apple Music, has been less impressive than most people would have hoped. He'll have a solid debut week but the album might not have much longevity on the charts.

[thegreatdivine]

May 16, 2022 18:50:23 GMT -5 thatpolishboy said:

It's crazy how Bad Bunny is pulling similar numbers to Kendrick this early in the week on Spotify. AM is obviously where Kendrick is definitely making up space but it wouldn't be surprising if Kendricks album drops below Bad Bunny next week.

People overestimate album bombs WAY out of proportion and set themselves up for disappoinment around here.

Kendrick will perform just fine, not every record needs to be broken every week. What's the point of a record if it's broken every other week lol

If Bad Bunny continues on this trajectory for the next few years, he'll legitimately become one of the biggest acts in the US, consumption-wise. He's already an arena veteran in the US.

I'm surprised by how well his album has held on Apple Music. For context, Bad Bunny's album has 17/23 songs, while Kendrick has 18/18 songs in the top 50 of US Apple Music and Bad Bunny's songs are currently rising while Kendrick's songs are falling. This is something you couldn't imagine happening 3 years ago but we're here now and it's happening. It's really impressive how much he's blown up from 2018-now. It's similar to Post Malone's rise from 2016-2019 but even more impressive to me because Bad Bunny doesn't sing in English but his music has managed to captivate English-speaking audiences regardless.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Prepare t say goodbye INDUSTRY BABY, Easy On Me, Need to Know, Hrs and Hrs, We Don't Talk About Bruno, Peru, Beers On Me, Me or Sum, Fingers Crossed, The Motto, 23, pushin P, and...most tragic of all: abcdefu 😔😔😔

[thegreatdivine]

^ I didn't know most of those songs were still charting. Good on them but it's time for some fresh music on the charts.

[mms82]

May 16, 2022 23:05:36 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

You Proof at #5 at Apple Music ... I don't think anybody expected that at this point.

Even though Don’t Think Jesus is the best of his most three recent songs, You Proof is definitely going to be the most commercially successful since it’s the poppiest. I hope it can debut top 10 even with Kendrick

[phieaglesfan712]

Going recurrent this week are Hrs and Hrs, WDTAB, Beers On Me, and 23.

Surface Pressure did not survive a 20th week on the 5/21 chart, and Broadway Girls did not get an exception for the 50/20 rule despite possibly gaining in what would have been its 21st week.

[thegreatdivine]

Mr. Morale & the Big Steppers on Spotify
Day 1:
WW — 99.6M
US — 53.3M

Day 2:
WW — 56.5M
US — 28.6M

Day 3:
WW — 29.2M
US — 18.6M

Day 4:
WW — 41.3M
US — 19.4M

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - 05/16/22

Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers
1(=) N95 2,223,495 (+205,053)
2(=) Die Hard 1,605,686 (+108,510)
4(+1) United in Grief 1,391,563 (+88,745)
5(+1) Father Time 1,366,845 (+70,562)
7(=) Silent Hill 1,298,366 (+59,803)
8(=) Rich Spirit 1,247,114 (+55,583)
9(=) Count Me Out 1,139,503 (+57,765)
12(+2) Savior 1,090,522 (+57,932)
13(-2) We Cry Together 1,075,463 (+5,692)
15(-3) Worldwide Steppers 1,059,486 (+21,230)
18(=) Purple Hearts 993,648 (+12,703)
23(=) Mr. Morale 809,937 (+25,685)
24(=) Rich Interlude 772,397 (+6,389)
28(-2) Crown 737,166 (+7,527)
29(-2) Auntie Diaries 704,390 (-2,697)
30(+1) Mirror 678,072 (+28,229)
32(-2) Savior Interlude 670,984 (+9,585)
36(-1) Mother I Sober 602,541 (-2,225)
Total Streams: 19,467,178 (+4%)

Bad Bunny - Un Verano Tin Si
11(-1) Moscow Mule 1,108,109 (+26,742)
14(+2) Tití Me Preguntó 1,065,661 (+49,956)
16(+1) Me Porto Bonito 1,054,248 (+65,675)
19(=) Después de la Playa 917,941 (+4,024)
22(=) Party 823,725 (+19,637)
26(+2) Ojitos Lindos 761,416 (+68,630)
31(+1) Tarot 677,732 (+31,953)
34(=) Un Ratito 638,312 (+28,275)
35(+1) Yo No Soy Celoso 611,106 (+27,675)
39(=) Neverita 557,496 (+25,149)
40(+2) Efecto 551,832 (+35,325)
41(+2) La Corriente 532,704 (+18,572)
48(+2) Otro Atardecer 487,167 (+35,160)
52(+1) Andrea 468,201 (+35,913)
53(+3) Dos Mil 16 449,766 (+28,432)
54(=) El Apagón 448,728 (+18,273)
57(+1) Aguacero 442,285 (+21,946)
58(+3) Un Coco 439,201 (+31,000)
68(+3) Enséñame a Bailar 401,359 (+19,105)
70(+8) Me Fui de Vacaciones 396,762 (+23,478)
72(+10) Un Verano Sin Ti 393,820 (+33,803)
74(+5) Callaita 390,337 (+19,339)
97(+5) Agosto 334,942 (+25,926)
Total Streams: 13,952,850 (+5%)

Others:
3(=) Harry Styles - As It Was 1,498,225 (+60,639)
6(-2) Jack Harlow - First Class 1,344,290 (+1,412)
10(+3) Morgan Wallen - You Proof 1,123,123 (+87,062)
17(-2) Lizzo - About Damn Time 1,034,434 (+11,978)
20(=) Future, Tems, Drake - WAIT FOR U 895,986 (+68,164)
21(=) Post Malone, Roddy Ricch - Cooped Up 860,680 (+36,435)
25(+4) Future - PUFFIN ON ZOOTIEZ 769,490 (+83,478)
27(-2) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 745,211 (-14,761)
33(=) Jack Harlow - Dua Lipa 647,113 (+14,877)
37(+4) J. Cole - No Role Modelz 570,029 (+48,870)
38(-1) KAROL G - PROVENZA 566,318 (+30,352)
42(+3) Morgan Wallen - Thought You Should Know 532,581 (+31,575)
44(-4) The Kid LAROI - STAY 512,329 (-10,607)
45(-1) Morgan Wallen - Wasted On You 507,792 (-479)
47(=) Doja Cat - Woman 495,123 (+3,660)
49(+2) Zach Bryan - Something in the Orange 483,718 (+41,819)
50(-1) Justin Bieber - Ghost 475,341 (+16,236)
51(-3) Imagine Dragons - Enemy 468,669 (-22,009)
55(-3) Jack Harlow - Churchill Downs 448,505 (+15,845)
56(+6) Arctic Monkeys - 505 446,513 (+39,718)
61(-4) WILLOW - Wait a Minute! 432,082 (+11,472)
62(+8) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 426,301 (+41,663)
63(+5) The Walters - I Love You So 425,026 (+36,433)
65(+8) Kendrick Lamar - The Heart Part 5 407,189 (+31,034)
66(=) Future, Drake - IM ON ONE 407,008 (+16,027)
67(-2) Camila Cabello - Bam Bam 402,773 (+11,039)
76(+13) Tyler the Creator - See You Again 387,971 (+38,838)
77(+27) Suki Waterhouse - Good Looking 386,191 (+80,248)
78(+3) Dove Cameron - Boyfriend 385,665 (+19,993)
79(-2) Elley Duhé - MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT 385,144 (+11,272)
80(-5) Kodak Black - Super Gremlin 382,182 (+7,536)
82(-6) Becky G, KAROL G - MAMIII 375,334 (+867)
86(+30) Stephen Sanchez - Until I Found You 367,967 (+80,078)
88(-16) Nate Smith - Whiskey On You 364,132 (-17,284)
89(-1) Morgan Wallen - Don't Think Jesus 363,861 (+14,466)
92(=) The Kid Laroi - Thousand Miles 348,470 (+12,682)
95(+1) Jack Harlow - Nail Tech 338,099 (+13,201)

102(+24) Cafuné - Tek It 330,598 (+54,441)
104(-13) Cody Johnson - 'Til You Can't 327,738 (-14,463)
105(-10) Latto - Big Energy 327,210 (+797)
106(-6) Yeat - Monëy so big 326,912 (+9,963)
107(-4) Frank Ocean - Lost 322,603 (+14,332)
109(-23) My Chemical Romance - The Foundations of Decay 318,643 (-35,765)
110(+1) Leah Kate - 10 Things I Hate About You 313,647 (+23,262)
114(+5) Lil Baby - Right On 309,072 (+24,012)
117(+17) Tyler the Creator - NEW MAGIC WAND 303,060 (+33,969)
122(+13) Ruth B. - Dandelions 297,704 (+28,980)
124(-12) Nicky Youre, dazy - Sunroof 296,185 (+6,241)
129(+14) Doja Cat - Vegas 291,010 (+28,828)
130(=) Lil Durk - What Happened To Virgil 290,559 (+19,394)
133(+8) Tate McRae - she's all i wanna be 287,737 (+24,606)
134(+26) Benson Boone - In The Stars 287,116 (+38,093)
139(-8) Megan Thee Stallion, Dua Lipa - Sweetest Pie 281,773 (+11,046)
140(+13) Em Beihold - Numb Little Bug 280,682 (+25,665)
145(-8) Morgan Wallen - Cover Me Up 278,326 (+11,162)
146(+4) The Rare Occasions - Notion 277,368 (+18,969)
149(-16) Doja Cat - Get Into It (Yuh) 275,093 (+5,245)
161(+31) Lauren Spencer-Smith - Flowers 263,784 (+35,967)
168(-10) Lil Tjay - In My Head 260,100 (+10,440)
183(+15) Young Nudy, 21 Savage - EA 253,234 (+29,145)
195(-2) Daddy Yankee, Bad Bunny - X ÚLTIMA VEZ 241,481 (+15,210)

Top 10 Without Kendrick Lamar:
1. As It Was
2. First Class
3. You Proof
4. Moscow Mule
5. Tití Me Preguntó
6. Me Porto Bonito
7. About Damn Time
8. Después de la Playa
9. WAIT FOR U
10. Cooped Up

Biggest Gains (50K+): Me and Your Mama, Wet Dreamz, Die For You, Tek It, Until I Found You, Good Looking, Ojitos Lindos, PUFFIN ON ZOOTIEZ, WAIT FOR U, Me Porto Bonito, Savior, You Proof, Count Me Out, Rich Spirit, Silent Hill, Father Time, United in Grief, As It Was, Die Hard, N95

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Omg Kendrick AND Rina?!?!?!? This week just keeps getting better and better

[joshtheking]

May 17, 2022 11:30:13 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Omg Kendrick AND Rina?!?!?!? This week just keeps getting better and better

YASSSSS

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2022 » / « 05 » / « 17 »

1(=) Harry Styles - As It Was 92.78(+0.70)
2(=) Latto - Big Energy 82.38(-0.48)
3(=) Imagine Dragons - Enemy From League Of Legends 80.12(-0.98)
4(+1) Jack Harlow - First Class 75.34(+2.52)
5(-1) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 72.47(-0.65)
6(=) The Kid Laroi & Justin Bieber - Stay 71.85(-0.47)
7(=) Justin Bieber - Ghost 66.52(-0.07)
8(=) Doja Cat - Woman 63.72(-0.03)
9(=) Lil Nas X - Thats What I Want 62.12(-0.69)
10(=) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 56.93(-0.19)

11(=) Dove Cameron - Boyfriend 53.96(+0.90)

13(+1) Em Beihold - Numb Little Bug 44.94(+0.88)

23(+2) Lizzo - About Damn Time 35.70(+1.44)

28(+2) Thomas Rhett - Slow Down Summer 33.58(+0.88)

95(+12) Kane Brown - Like I Love Country Music 12.86(+1.10)

-(-) Alexa - Wonderland 6.06(+0.72)

-(-) Post Malone - Cooped Up (feat. Roddy Ricch) 4.51(+1.37) +

[inverse]

Is Khalid Skyline still something that's gonna happen on the hot 100 or has that died off already

[JukeboxJacob]

Kendrick's numbers look great to me

[lazer]

Yeah, Kendrick is holding on just fine.

[JukeboxJacob]

Select Hot 100 positions WITHOUT the Bad Bunny album bomb OR Future's leftovers (I kept Harlow's "bomb" b/c it was a small explosion + kept Wait For U)

6. About Dang Time (+13, new peak)
8. Thought You Should Know (Debut)
10. The Heart P5 (Debut)
13. Dua Lipa (Debut)
14. Churchill Downs (Debut)

- Super Recurrent Cutoff -

22. Boyfriend (+12, new peak)
30. Numb Little Bug (+10, new peak)
34. This Love (TS) (Debut)

- Recurrent Cutoff -

41. Nail Tech (+44)
44. She's All I Wanna Be (Holds peak)
50. 2step (+1, new peak)
55. Get Into It Yuh (+17, new peak)
56. Hold My Hand (Debut)
73. Honest (-29)

It can also be assumed a majority of the Bubbling Under would've charted. Summer's basically here, & unless you're a rap fan, the charts are STILL lackluster

[phieaglesfan712]

[thegreatdivine]

Mr. Morale & the Big Steppers on US Apple Music after 5 days:
2(=). N95
4(-1). Silent Hill
7(-3). Die Hard
11(-3). Rich Spirit
12(-5). Father Time
15(-6). United In Grief
16(-2). Count Me Out
18(-2). Worldwide Steppers
19(-2). We Cry Together
20(-1). Savior
23(-3). Purple Hearts
28(-4). Rich (Interlude)
33(-6). Mr. Morale
35(-6). Savior (Interlude)
36(-10). Crown
41(-9). Auntie Diaries
56(-7). Mother I Sober
58(-15). Mirror

[Enigma.]

Interesting to see if N95 can go #1... I think it might just miss out with AIW and FC increasing on airplay.

[phieaglesfan712]

May 18, 2022 2:00:34 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

Interesting to see if N95 can go #1... I think it might just miss out with AIW and FC increasing on airplay.

I think the predictions factor in the potential increase in airplay. Besides, AIW is very near its peak on radio (I mean, how much more can it possibly grow), so its updates could turn negative any day now. N95 has the Hot 100 #1 in the bag. Plus, it wouldn’t be a good sign heading into the summer if the Hot 100 #1 fell below 300 points, especially with all the new music/albums that have been released in recent weeks.