Billboard Hot 100: 05/28/2022

[dremolus - solarpunk]

May 16, 2022 8:22:21 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

since when did we only care about the quality of music releases? What use is releasing a supposedly great album if no one is listening to it after a few weeks?

I mean what's wrong about talking about how good of an album it is? For me at least, not caring about the commercial performance of acts just makes it easier and let's be honest, more fun to talk about, because it's not bogged down by stats.

Like just enjoy the art and even if no one else cares, you still have some great music to listen to

[thatpolishboy]

May 16, 2022 9:00:00 GMT -5 Future Captain said:

May 16, 2022 8:57:24 GMT -5 mms82 said:

same fate as Dua? She hasn't released a new single since Future Nostalgia (Sweetest Pie was Meg's) — I wouldn't remotely call her a flop or compare her to the Weeknd yet, she had one song where she was a guest that flopped on. Her last "proper" single was the biggest song of the year

Love Again said hi

Love Again was her SEVENTH worldwide single from the era and did well considering how long it was out before that (Don't Start Now, Break My Heart, Physical, Hallucinate, Levitating, We're Good, and then Love Again). We can also throw in Un Dia, Prisoner and Fever which were mini-singles too all before Love Again was being promoted anywhere.

Pretty sure Love Again was dropped from Radio because Cold Heart was taking off better and Levitating was still taking up radio space.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

May 16, 2022 9:29:46 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

May 16, 2022 8:22:21 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

since when did we only care about the quality of music releases? What use is releasing a supposedly great album if no one is listening to it after a few weeks?

I mean what's wrong about talking about how good of an album it is? For me at least, not caring about the commercial performance of acts just makes it easier and let's be honest, more fun to talk about, because it's not bogged down by stats.

Like just enjoy the art and even if no one else cares, you still have some great music to listen to

Agreed. There's a lot of successful music that's junk in my book.

[thegreatdivine]

May 16, 2022 9:29:46 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

May 16, 2022 8:22:21 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

since when did we only care about the quality of music releases? What use is releasing a supposedly great album if no one is listening to it after a few weeks?

I mean what's wrong about talking about how good of an album it is? For me at least, not caring about the commercial performance of acts just makes it easier and let's be honest, more fun to talk about, because it's not bogged down by stats.

Like just enjoy the art and even if no one else cares, you still have some great music to listen to

I never said there was anything wrong in talking about how good an album is but specifically in these threads, they're literally made to discuss stats and numbers. Yes, we discuss the quality of the music as well but mostly and usually in relation to how they're performing on the charts.

In the case of Kendrick's new album, critics would have you believe it's an incredible album but that's when its acclaim relates to the numbers because if it's so great, then why is it already showing considerable decline in streaming? And how good is an album if everyone suggests its songs are good but people are already choosing to not go back to streaming said songs, especially for an artist like Kendrick whose album has been anticipated for half a decade? I personally don't know any song/album that was so good that its quality made me want to listen to it less and less but there's a first time for everything, I guess.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

May 16, 2022 10:06:55 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

May 16, 2022 9:29:46 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

I mean what's wrong about talking about how good of an album it is? For me at least, not caring about the commercial performance of acts just makes it easier and let's be honest, more fun to talk about, because it's not bogged down by stats.

Like just enjoy the art and even if no one else cares, you still have some great music to listen to

I never said there was anything wrong in talking about how good an album is but specifically in these threads, they're literally made to discuss stats and numbers. Yes, we discuss the quality of the music as well but mostly and usually in relation to how they're performing on the charts.

In the case of Kendrick's new album, critics would have you believe it's an incredible album but that's when its acclaim relates to the numbers because if it's so great, then why is it already showing considerable decline in streaming? And how good is an album if everyone suggests its songs are good but people are already choosing to not go back to streaming said songs, especially for an artist like Kendrick whose album has been anticipated for half a decade? I personally don't know any song/album that was so good that its quality made me want to listen to it less and less but there's a first time for everything, I guess.

I mean the taste of critics and the taste of the general public doesn't always align. This isn't new not every song, movie, album, TV show, book, etc. that gets massive acclaim gets the commercial success it deserves and not everything wildly successful is of quality. I'm not saying quality can't help a work of art get more or less eyes but it's not an exact science. And hell, even then: the things the public do respond to the most like catchy hooks and melodies aren't the only things critics are looking for when they decide what's really good. It's different audiences looking for different things. If it was really down to quality: more than 15 songs on a regular chart week without an album bomb would actually be good.

I'm just saying: it's really misleading to equate the dwindling numbers as a sign that critics are wrong for praising it and that the numbers should reflect it. I would've liked the numbers to stay up more but it is what it is. Kendrick still got a ton of streams first day so there is hype. It's just that the audiences that will listen over and over again and really take in the lyrics to this album aren't the majority of people, go figure.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2022 » / « 05 » / « 16 »

1(=) Harry Styles - As It Was 92.07(+1.17) +
2(=) Latto - Big Energy 82.86(-0.27) -
3(=) Imagine Dragons - Enemy From League Of Legends 81.09(-0.80)
4(=) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 73.12(+0.00)
5(+1) Jack Harlow - First Class 72.82(+2.38)
6(-1) The Kid Laroi & Justin Bieber - Stay 72.32(-0.30)
7(=) Justin Bieber - Ghost 66.59(-0.15)
8(+1) Doja Cat - Woman 63.76(-0.07)
9(-1) Lil Nas X - Thats What I Want 62.81(-1.21)
10(=) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 57.12(-0.25)

11(=) Dove Cameron - Boyfriend 53.06(+0.80) +

14(=) Em Beihold - Numb Little Bug 44.06(+1.00)

25(+4) Lizzo - About Damn Time 34.26(+1.11)

67(+4) Sam Smith - Love Me More 17.52(+1.21)

87(+6) Lady Gaga - Hold My Hand (Music From The Motion Picture "Top Gun: Maverick") 13.95(+0.86)

-(-) Blessd - Medallo f/Justin Quiles 11.96(+0.90)

-(-) Kane Brown - Like I Love Country Music 11.76(+1.30)

-(-) Chris Brown - WE (Warm Embrace) 8.34(+1.10) +

-(-) Alexa - Wonderland 5.35(+1.34) +

-(-) Fivio Foreign - What's My Name f/Queen Naija.. 4.25(+1.19) +

-(-) Imagine Dragons - Bones 2.73(+1.74) +

-(-) Pusha T - Scrape It Off The Top 1.75(+0.77) +

[dynamac]

The songs with the catchiest hooks and mainstream-friendly features N95, Die Hard, and Silent Hill are still holding up and the six minute song about trauma from sexual abuse isn’t wow who woulda thunk it

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Music can be amazing and still be something you don’t necessarily want to listen to repeatedly.

[thegreatdivine]

May 16, 2022 11:51:12 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

Music can be amazing and still be something you don’t necessarily want to listen to repeatedly.

So there are songs/albums you'd personally call amazing/classic/timeless/so so damn good that you also only wanted to listen to less and less as time passed? Wow. That's good to know.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

May 16, 2022 12:10:44 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

May 16, 2022 11:51:12 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

Music can be amazing and still be something you don’t necessarily want to listen to repeatedly.

So there are songs/albums you'd personally call amazing/classic/timeless/so so damn good that you also only wanted to listen to less and less as time passed? Wow. That's good to know.

So you can’t understand why some people would feel differently about music than you? Wow. That’s good to know.

Who’s saying less and less? Only you. I’m saying there are albums I wouldn’t necessarily want to have on repeat because they’re just not that kind of music for me. It’s easy to replay catchy pop songs many times in a short period. Albums that are more thought provoking, or have a stronger focus on the lyrics but aren’t necessarily melodic I’d probably need to be in a certain place to want to listen to as a whole. Just because I’m not in the mood to listen to something at any minute of any day, doesn’t mean I can’t appreciate or acknowledge that it’s a great collection of music.

[Enigma.]

Hold My Hand climbing on airplay as it should

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - 05/15/22

Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers
1(=) N95 2,018,442 (-742,201)
2(=) Die Hard 1,497,176 (-641,990)
5(-2) United in Grief 1,302,818 (-780,593)
6(-2) Father Time 1,296,283 (-682,155)
7(-2) Silent Hill 1,238,563 (-573,546)
8(-2) Rich Spirit 1,191,531 (-602,007)
9(=) Count Me Out 1,081,738 (-556,244)
11(-4) We Cry Together 1,069,771 (-654,486)
12(-4) Worldwide Steppers 1,038,256 (-659,569)
14(-1) Savior 1,032,590 (-493,761)
18(-8) Purple Hearts 980,945 (-595,428)
23(-6) Mr. Morale 784,252 (-439,348)
24(-8) Rich Interlude 766,008 (-506,842)
26(-5) Crown 729,639 (-463,804)
27(-5) Auntie Diaries 707,087 (-484,380)
30(-6) Savior Interlude 661,399 (-406,565)
31(-6) Mirror 649,843 (-355,109)
35(-9) Mother I Sober 604,766 (-395,260)
Total Streams: 18,651,107 (-35%)

Bad Bunny - Un Verano Tin Si
10(+5) Moscow Mule 1,081,367 (-207,465)
16(+2) Tití Me Preguntó 1,015,705 (-186,449)
17(+3) Me Porto Bonito 988,573 (-204,955)
19(+4) Después de la Playa 913,917 (-194,825)
22(+5) Party 804,088 (-164,513)
28(+3) Ojitos Lindos 692,786 (-109,637)
32(=) Tarot 645,779 (-142,396)
34(-1) Un Ratito 610,037 (-143,451)
36(=) Yo No Soy Celoso 583,431 (-133,663)
39(-2) Neverita 532,347 (-119,243)
42(-3) Efecto 516,507 (-106,232)
43(-5) La Corriente 514,132 (-118,887)
50(-5) Otro Atardecer 452,007 (-92,969)
53(-3) Andrea 432,288 (-91,205)
54(-5) El Apagón 430,455 (-98,755)
56(-3) Dos Mil 16 421,334 (-93,934)
58(-6) Aguacero 420,339 (-96,554)
61(-3) Un Coco 408,201 (-86,884)
71(-11) Enséñame a Bailar 382,254 (-90,947)
78(-14) Me Fui de Vacaciones 373,284 (-81,320)
79(-9) Callaita 370,998 (-68,809)
82(-11) Un Verano Sin Ti 360,017 (-78,940)
102(-12) Agosto 309,016 (-68,043)
Total Streams: 13,258,862 (-17%)

Others:
3(+8) Harry Styles - As It Was 1,437,586 (-138,778)
4(+8) Jack Harlow - First Class 1,342,878 (-184,373)
13(+1) Morgan Wallen - You Proof 1,036,061 (-328,664)
15(+4) Lizzo - About Damn Time 1,022,456 (-174,682)
20(+9) Future, Tems, Drake - WAIT FOR U 827,822 (-81,889)
21(+7) Post Malone, Roddy Ricch - Cooped Up 824,245 (-131,972)
25(+5) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 759,972 (-72,965)
29(+5) Future - PUFFIN ON ZOOTIEZ 686,012 (-63,470)
33(+2) Jack Harlow - Dua Lipa 632,236 (-113,193)
37(+3) KAROL G - PROVENZA 535,966 (-75,133)
38(+3) Lil Nas X - INDUSTRY BABY 535,485 (-59,472)
40(+3) The Kid LAROI - STAY 522,936 (-51,369)
41(+6) J. Cole - No Role Modelz 521,159 (-20,639)
44(=) Morgan Wallen - Wasted On You 508,271 (-47,521)
45(-3) Morgan Wallen - Thought You Should Know 501,006 (-79,218)
47(-1) Doja Cat - Woman 491,463 (-50,345)
48(+3) Imagine Dragons - Enemy 490,678 (-32,061)
49(+6) Justin Bieber - Ghost 459,105 (-51,099)
51(+8) Zach Bryan - Something in the Orange 441,899 (-40,564)
52(+2) Jack Harlow - Churchill Downs 432,660 (-79,225)
57(+8) WILLOW - Wait a Minute! 420,610 (-30,592)
62(+18) Arctic Monkeys - 505 406,795 (+4,042)
63(+5) Lil Nas X - THATS WHAT I WANT 394,961 (-48,726)
65(+1) Camila Cabello - Bam Bam 391,734 (-56,024)
66(+1) Future, Drake - IM ON ONE 390,981 (-53,153)
68(+19) The Walters - I Love You So 388,593 (+4,151)
70(+16) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 384,638 (-2,499)
72(+4) Nate Smith - Whiskey On You 381,416 (-28,018)
73(-16) Kendrick Lamar - The Heart Part 5 376,155 (-120,992)
75(-1) Kodak Black - Super Gremlin 374,646 (-43,535)
76(-15) Becky G, KAROL G - MAMIII 374,467 (-98,277)
77(+5) Elley Duhé - MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT 373,872 (-26,774)
81(+4) Dove Cameron - Boyfriend 365,672 (-24,777)
86(-30) My Chemical Romance - The Foundations of Decay 354,408 (-151,228)
88(-4) Morgan Wallen - Don't Think Jesus 349,395 (-41,695)
89(+8) Tyler the Creator - See You Again 349,133 (-7,432)
91(+2) Cody Johnson - 'Til You Can't 342,201 (-25,109)
92(-1) The Kid Laroi - Thousand Miles 335,788 (-34,780)
95(-6) Latto - Big Energy 326,413 (-52,949)
96(-8) Jack Harlow - Nail Tech 324,898 (-57,140)
100(+2) Yeat - Monëy so big 316,949 (-22,533)

103(+16) Frank Ocean - Lost 308,271 (-5,032)
104(+10) Suki Waterhouse - Good Looking 305,943 (-12,031)
107(=) ERNEST - Flower Shops 299,221 (-27,507)
111(+5) Leah Kate - 10 Things I Hate About You 290,385 (-24,581)
112(+1) Nicky Youre, dazy - Sunroof 289,944 (-30,603)
114(-9) Gunna - pushin P 289,752 (-39,645)
116(+35) Stephen Sanchez - Until I Found You 287,889 (+9,613)
119(-8) Lil Baby - Right On 285,060 (-36,489)
126(+14) Cafuné - Tek It 276,157 (-9,304)
130(=) Lil Durk - What Happened To Virgil 271,165 (-24,272)
131(-6) Megan Thee Stallion, Dua Lipa - Sweetest Pie 270,727 (-32,123)
133(-5) Doja Cat - Get Into It (Yuh) 269,848 (-29,115)
134(+12) Tyler the Creator - NEW MAGIC WAND 269,091 (-12,067)
135(+15) Ruth B. - Dandelions 268,724 (-11,704)
137(-6) Morgan Wallen - Cover Me Up 267,164 (-25,665)
141(-6) Tate McRae - she's all i wanna be 263,131 (-27,010)
143(-5) Doja Cat - Vegas 262,182 (-25,541)
150(+13) The Rare Occasions - Notion 258,399 (-7,652)
153(=) Em Beihold - Numb Little Bug 255,017 (-21,978)
158(+2) Lil Tjay - In My Head 249,660 (-19,351)
160(+4) Benson Boone - In The Stars 249,023 (-14,914)
161(+27) Beach House - Space Song 248,928 (-328)
191(-25) Justin Bieber, Don Toliver - Honest 228,474 (-33,365)
192(+2) Lauren Spencer-Smith - Flowers 227,817 (-18,015)
193(-26) Daddy Yankee, Bad Bunny - X ÚLTIMA VEZ 226,271 (-34,481)
198(-5) Young Nudy, 21 Savage - EA 224,089 (-22,145)

Top 10 Without Kendrick Lamar:
1. As It Was
2. First Class
3. Moscow Mule
4. You Proof
5. About Damn Time
6. Tití Me Preguntó
7. Me Porto Bonito
8. Después de la Playa
9. WAIT FOR U
10. Cooped Up

[dremolus - solarpunk]

May 16, 2022 12:10:44 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

May 16, 2022 11:51:12 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

Music can be amazing and still be something you don’t necessarily want to listen to repeatedly.

So there are songs/albums you'd personally call amazing/classic/timeless/so so damn good that you also only wanted to listen to less and less as time passed? Wow. That's good to know.

I think you missed what Rose meant. Something can be really good and amazing and a classic but not something you want to listen to repeatedly. Like let's use an extreme example to highlight what we meant:

Say you have two films both classics: one is Toy Story, a light family-friendly movie that's touching and emotional but still funny and upbeat. And then the other is Schindler's List. As I said both are considered timeless classics and I know this is an extreme example but my point is that one is obviously easier to revisit than the other, and that the same mentality applies to music.


There's lots of music that gets acclaim each year but aren't for the same reasons. There's great music that I love but that I don't want to relisten to every day whether that'd be because of raw, uncomfortable subject matter, experimental production that isn't focused on being melodic or just even because of an abrasive nihilistic attitude that I don't need to listen to constantly. Like I love the album but are we that surprised something like 'We Cry Together' or 'Auntie Diaries' isn't getting replayed over and over? There's a time and place for complex, intricate and mature music and that isn't all the time.

[thegreatdivine]

Rose "Payola" Nylund well, the discussion is specifically about Kendrick's latest album. I never said it was a bad album but I don't agree that it's a GREAT album. GKMC is a great album. TPAB is a great album. Putting aside what I think about his latest album, GKMC/TPAB have Kendrick also rapping about his life and about a host of serious real-life issues but they also had the replayability factor. I'm not even suggesting he should have shot for radio-friendly hits on this album because he didn't do that on either of those two albums but a lot of the songs are simply sorely lacking in replayability and not just because of the lyrical content of the songs.

Are the songs mostly well-written, yes, Kendrick is an incredible wordsmith and we all know that but there's more to songcraft than just good lyrics and that's where his new album might be lacking for me (and apparently, many other people, if the streaming performance of the album is anything to go by).

I feel like this time around, most of the songs simply weren't constructed as well as they usually are and that led to a lapse in replayability — something Kendrick has never had a problem with even when making some of his most serious records.

[After Minutes]

One can, in fact, appreciate that it's great music and not want to listen to confessions about childhood abuse or systematic racism when they're on their morning commute. We exist

[thegreatdivine]

dremolus - solarpunk I think I get what you guys are saying but my thing is that Kendrick has always been an artist that's rapped about topics most people would consider serious, so no one in their right mind goes into a Kendrick album looking for club bangers. Let's just get that out the way. I've been a fan of the dude since he released his 2010 mixtape, Overly Dedicated and from then till now, he's always had songs on each of his full length releases that have covered, like I said, serious topics. For an album as emotionally complex as TPAB was, I've never had an issue playing that album because he ensured replayability was factored into the construction of its songs. I can listen to songs like King Kunta, The Blacker the Berry, Complexion, Alright, These Walls and i whenever because even though I know he's rapping about important topics on those songs, he didn't abandon melody/general listenability when making them. That's what I believe this album lacks.

Even the records that are a clear attempt to make something more melodic/easy-going fall short (at least for me). That's the issue I'm having with the album and it's interesting to me that other people seem to be having the same problem. It's also part of the reason why I don't think it's a great album.

[atg]

May 16, 2022 12:10:44 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

May 16, 2022 11:51:12 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

Music can be amazing and still be something you don’t necessarily want to listen to repeatedly.

So there are songs/albums you'd personally call amazing/classic/timeless/so so damn good that you also only wanted to listen to less and less as time passed? Wow. That's good to know.

I think the point is that music doesn’t always have to have replay value in order for it to be timeless or hold a lot of value to it. There could also be songs that you jam to on the daily and they aren’t as great in quality, while you have songs that give you a whole musical experience but would be exhausting listening constantly to it.

Also..

Popular music listeners ≠ all of music listeners

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Global Spotify debuts after Eurovision:

#38. Stefania 1,962,754
#77. SPACE MAN 1,384,130
#85. SloMo 1,316,939
#105. Hold Me Closer 1,153,782
#117. Give That Wolf a Banana 1,041,559
#122. Brividi 994,895
#128. De Diepte 956,394

[85la]

As someone who isn't even a huge fan of Kendrick or this album, it is a little disappointing to see these huge drops the last couple days (it was thrilling to see the huge opening numbers just to see someone smash really hard again), but even I would say he still has time to stabilize, because the anomalously high first-day numbers might not have been sustainable, and for what it's worth all songs usually post declines on Sunday anyway (maybe not as big as his), so I would give it the rest of the week to get a better indication of how things might play out in the long term.

[kindofbiased]

I'm more amazed that a song like We Cry Together was able to spend any amount of time in the spotify top 10 and is still getting over a million streams in a day

[goldentakes]

May 16, 2022 12:50:24 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

dremolus - solarpunk I think I get what you guys are saying but my thing is that Kendrick has always been an artist that's rapped about topics most people would consider serious, so no one in their right mind goes into a Kendrick album looking for club bangers. Let's just get that out the way. I've been a fan of the dude since he released his 2010 mixtape, Overly Dedicated and from then till now, he's always had songs on each of his full length releases that have covered, like I said, serious topics. For an album as emotionally complex as TPAB was, I've never had an issue playing that album because he ensured replayability was factored into the construction of its songs. I can listen to songs like King Kunta, The Blacker the Berry, Complexion, Alright, These Walls and i whenever because even though I know he's rapping about important topics on those songs, he didn't abandon melody/general listenability when making them. That's what I believe this album lacks.

Even the records that are a clear attempt to make something more melodic/easy-going fall short (at least for me). That's the issue I'm having with the album and it's interesting to me that other people seem to be having the same problem. It's also part of the reason why I don't think it's a great album.

Most of Kendrick's music needs time to sit and breathe. For some artists, it's ok to not put an immediate label of good/bad on their music, because your perspective of it may evolve over time. For me, Kendrick is one of those artists. I didn't think DAMN. was an amazing album on first listen, but as time went on I liked it more and more. 

And just to your point, TBAP is considered by many to be Kendrick's best project, but compared to DAMN. and GKMC it has had far shorter longevity when it comes to streaming numbers. That's not because it's necessarily worse, it's just because the jazz inspired instrumentation and thematic sequencing probably doesn't lend itself to as frequent repeat listening. If this was a poppier artist i would sort of understand where you're coming from, but music like this is just in a separate ballpark of analysis.

[Enigma.]

May 16, 2022 12:52:25 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Global Spotify debuts after Eurovision:

#38. Stefania 1,962,754
#77. SPACE MAN 1,384,130
#85. SloMo 1,316,939
#105. Hold Me Closer 1,153,782
#117. Give That Wolf a Banana 1,041,559
#122. Brividi 994,895
#128. De Diepte 956,394

Not to nitpick, but Brividi has reached #5 even back when it was released!

Also Hold Me Closer is a re-entry.

[kimberly]

May 16, 2022 7:49:38 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

May 16, 2022 7:45:18 GMT -5 gikem said:

I’ve only heard bits and pieces, but from what I can gather, it’s not exactly Kendrick’s most revisitable album.

"Revisitable" isn't something to describe most Kendrick albums, at least if you're just a casual fan who won't care about lyrics. DAMN. and the Black Panther album are the most accessible Kendrick projects and yet are among his weakest. Again, let's just celebrate one of the best albums of the year is on tracking to having one of the biggest debuts of the year, "longevity" be damned.

I mean, DAMN literally won a Pulitzer, the most prestigious writing award in the world, and the first time ever it went to a non-jazz album.

"accessible" and "popular" =/= weak. in fact, it can be an album's greatest strength, which sounds like where thegreatdivine disagrees with some of the discussion. Kendrick was able to cover heavy subjects while still racking in incredible streaming numbers with his past work, so the rapid decline of his latest project is a surprise, and might speak to how his audience feels about the project.

while I agree that not all great albums have to have a certain "replay value," I don't think an album can be a 100-rated masterpiece if it opens with 100M streams on Friday and falls below 10M by Thursday. that's a very harsh decline for an album that is supposed to be introspective, thought-provoking and moving. 

[divasummer]

May 15, 2022 17:11:34 GMT -5 degen said:

youtu.be/H8tFWMxMaDE

Really enjoying this Mark Ronson feat. Lucky Daye. It sounds like a summer smash. I hope radio gives it a fair shot.

I Love this song!!!
I liked it on first listen so I added it.
However after a few listens it’s become a current favorite.

[inverse]

May 16, 2022 8:22:21 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

What use is releasing a supposedly great album if no one is listening to it after a few weeks?

What? To make good art that people appreciate and brings them joy? What's Your Pleasure by Jessie Ware didn't even hit the billboard 200 and real ones know that's one of the best albums ever so I'd say great albums can still have lots of use even if they don't become Smash Hits

[ontopofthis]

May 16, 2022 8:22:21 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

I can't say I'm at all bothered about the Spotify performance of Kendrick's album but the fact that it's already slipping on Apple Music is bothersome because that means it won't have any longevity and since when did we only care about the quality of music releases? What use is releasing a supposedly great album if no one is listening to it after a few weeks?

The album is still number one on Apple, and it is going to be the biggest debut of the year. How is "no one listening" to that? What no one is listening to is that Drake and Jack Harlow song, which you hyped to the extreme, and have a million excuses for it bombing. You really become a simpleton when Drake's rivals are in the picture     

[kimberly]

May 16, 2022 15:48:52 GMT -5 inverse said:

May 16, 2022 8:22:21 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

What use is releasing a supposedly great album if no one is listening to it after a few weeks?

What? To make good art that people appreciate and brings them joy? What's Your Pleasure by Jessie Ware didn't even hit the billboard 200 and real ones know that's one of the best albums ever so I'd say great albums can still have lots of use even if they don't become Smash Hits

considering Jessie Ware's previous album did not chart in any capacity in the US, the No. 34 Album Sales peak of What's Your Pleasure? was an improvement.

I think the scenario here is a bit different, where Kendrick is one of the greats of our time and has a MASSIVE audience. it's only been 3 days, but if his album comes and goes after a week, that tells us something. it doesn't have to have smash hits to be a great album, but it needs to be at least consumed by his fans for a week (ideally more than a week).

[thatpolishboy]

It's crazy how Bad Bunny is pulling similar numbers to Kendrick this early in the week on Spotify. AM is obviously where Kendrick is definitely making up space but it wouldn't be surprising if Kendricks album drops below Bad Bunny next week.

People overestimate album bombs WAY out of proportion and set themselves up for disappoinment around here.

Kendrick will perform just fine, not every record needs to be broken every week. What's the point of a record if it's broken every other week lol

[thegreatdivine]

May 16, 2022 18:00:39 GMT -5 ontopofthis said:

May 16, 2022 8:22:21 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

I can't say I'm at all bothered about the Spotify performance of Kendrick's album but the fact that it's already slipping on Apple Music is bothersome because that means it won't have any longevity and since when did we only care about the quality of music releases? What use is releasing a supposedly great album if no one is listening to it after a few weeks?

The album is still number one on Apple, and it is going to be the biggest debut of the year. How is "no one listening" to that? What no one is listening to is that Drake and Jack Harlow song, which you hyped to the extreme, and have a million excuses for it bombing. You really become a simpleton when Drake's rivals are in the picture     

How is Kendrick Drake's rival? And what does anything I said have to do with Drake when I explained how much of a Kendrick fan I am and detailed my problems with this album in comparison with his older albums, which I explicitly said were great? 

Also, how is getting a 5+ minute straight rap song with no hook to debut at #23 "bombing"?

Lastly, if you can't see why it's concerning that one of the biggest rappers in the world returned to music after a 5 year hiatus and released a new album, only for said album to have the worst Apple Music performance so far this year after 3 days in comparison to albums from other mainstream rap artists, then I have nothing to say to you. When Gunna, Lil Durk, Future & even Bad Bunny are having their albums perform a lot better on Apple Music than Kendrick's first album in 5 years, it is cause for concern.

[atg]

It’s crazy how we already have hits that we’ll know that’ll stick around for the summer and they’re actual hits released in 2022. As It Was, First Class, Wait For U and About Damn Time are all pretty much likely to stick around, Moscow Mule and N95 are about 50/50 but the former has a perfect summer sound to it so i would be shocked if it doesn’t. From the album bombs so far, Puffin On Zootiez, Titi Me Pregunto and Die Hard might end up being sleeper streaming hits and/or actual 2nd singles that would end up returning to the top 10 at a later point. We might get another hit from Harry and maybe Post but we can’t be sure. These are just my predictions so i’m obviously not saying that it’s guaranteed that anything here would happen.