Billboard Hot 100: 06/18/2022

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Jun 4, 2022 7:27:43 GMT -5 gs said:

TCT bombed on streaming, if it's a regular frontloaded album it could debut at #3 on the BB200 with barely 120K units. Poor Post, it's over I fear

That said, I Like You looks like it should go top 10 (maybe even top 5 if it holds up well) and Cooped Up can sneak in.

Literally 7/10 song on Spotify are Post...

[gs]

Jun 4, 2022 7:51:09 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

It's still better than The Weeknd for instance... He had no songs in top ten on album release week.

Well tbf, both did poorly, but the top 10 cutoff then was 175 according to ChartEssentials, not just 140 like it is now - Sacrifice did 166 according to them, so it would've made top 10 with the current chart.

Literally 7/10 song on Spotify are Post...

Do I really have to add *for his standards to every post? It's obvious what I mean. It's a >60% decline from HB, that is "bombing" in every sense of the word. I wish it didn't because I love the album, but that's just reality. It's like saying Avatar 2 earning a total of 500M at the box office later this year isn't a "bomb" because for an indie A24 movie that's insanely good. Make it make sense...

[Enigma.]

Imagine using so much effort on dissing the album you love!

[iHype.]

Why is everyone talking about his numbers but not actually posting any information on them?

US Spotify
2. I Like You - 2,000,190
4. Cooped Up - 1,692,613
5. Reputation - 1,337,319
7. Wrapped Around Your Finger - 1,239,293
8. Lemon Tree - 1,212,399
9. Wasting Angels - 1,199,041
10. I Cannot Be - 1,196,999
13. Insane - 1,059,392
15. Love/Hate Letter to Alcohol - 1,023,109
17. One Right Now - 971,255
21. Euthanasia - 811,660
25. When I'm Alone - 802,632
35. Waiting For A Miracle - 677,249
43. New Recording 12 - 573,222

Hollywood's Bleeding for comparison
1. Circles -  3,441,328
2. Saint Tropez - 3,330,184
3. Enemies - 3,198,197
4. Hollywood's Bleeding - 3,027,413
5. Take What You Want - 2,796,808
6. Die for Me - 2,501,060
7. On The Road - 2,345,300
8. Goodbyes - 2,323,437
9. A Thousand Bad Times - 2,295,134
10. Allergic - 2,279,770
11. Staring At the Sun - 2,012,637
12. I'm Gonna Be - 1,975,607
13. Sunflower - 1,963,647
14. Internet - 1,564,402
15. Myself - 1,515,729
16. Wow. - 1,465,628
17. I Know - 1,456,170

[thatpolishboy]

Jun 4, 2022 6:37:12 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Jun 4, 2022 4:55:02 GMT -5 lugus15 said:

Will RUTH be featured in ST season final episodes?

Because now that it's being serviced to radio and in a month's time (when AIW and FC) doing significantly lower numbers in all metrics, I can see RUTH sneaking a week (or more) at #1.

In a month’s time, About Damn Time will be Running Up That Hill’s biggest competition. RUTH will be #1 starting this tracking week, but it’s going to be interesting to see if it can sustain the streaming numbers as ADT gets closer to its radio peak/Lizzo’s album release.

In reality ADT is looking to be peaking in streaming faster than it's racing up the radio. I'd say it will have plenty of longevity in the top 10 but hitting nr.1 would be asking for a lot.

Still impressive given it had a horrendous start across the board in all metrics.

[atg]

Jun 4, 2022 8:00:05 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Jun 4, 2022 7:27:43 GMT -5 gs said:

TCT bombed on streaming, if it's a regular frontloaded album it could debut at #3 on the BB200 with barely 120K units. Poor Post, it's over I fear

That said, I Like You looks like it should go top 10 (maybe even top 5 if it holds up well) and Cooped Up can sneak in.

Literally 7/10 song on Spotify are Post...

I think people on here are forgetting what a normal sized album bomb is. Not everything has to be triple smashed record breaking numbers. This was fully expected for Post and i think we should look at it on its own instead of comparing it to HB. Believe it or not, these eras do happen, and some artists kinda struggle to directly follow up their most popular era. Look at Artpop or Dawn FM for examples. I’m pretty sure he can recover from this for sure.

[Groovy]

Imagine if RUTH became the Song of the Summer and wound being the biggest hit of the year.

[gs]

Jun 4, 2022 8:26:33 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

Imagine using so much effort on dissing the album you love!

Calling something a bomb is not blinded by my liking for it, this isn't stan twitter, lmao?

If I don't care about a project I'm not going to comment on it because I'm not an obsessed hater, if I do like it though, I'm invested in how it performs and therefore will comment on it... I'm sorry that being harsh despite enjoying something is a concept that is foreign to you  

HB did 39.5M while TCT did 15.8M (-60%). Saying he has "7/10" on Spotify as an indication he didn't bomb in isolation is dumb when not looking at further context, like his past performance 

[iHype.]

Circles, The Box, and Blinding Lights smashing during the beginning of the pandemic and now all their latest eras were full blown flukes has to be some full circle moment right?

[jenglisbe]

The reality is this "bomb" is a big decline from previous numbers. Even if he has 7/10 on Spotify, it was day 1. What will day 3 or 4 look like?

[kierz7]

Malone truly BOMBED.

Serving:

Beerbongs & Bentleys (Teenage Dream)>
Hollywood’s Bleeding (PRISM) >
Twelve Carat Toothache (Witness) >

The ‘Male Katy Perry’, I fear. 💀

[phieaglesfan712]

Jun 4, 2022 9:09:09 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Circles, The Box, and Blinding Lights smashing during the beginning of the pandemic and now all their latest eras were full blown flukes has to be some full circle moment right?

Meanwhile, Say So smashed during the beginning of the pandemic, but Doja is on the verge of having a 5th smash hit on her Planet Her era.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - 06/03/22

1(=) Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God) 2,388,207 (-41,936)
2(DEBUT) Post Malone, Doja Cat - I Like You (A Happier Song) 2,000,190
3(-1) Harry Styles - As It Was 1,901,892 (+51,079)
4(+18) Post Malone, Roddy Ricch - Cooped Up 1,692,613 (+1,060,429)
5(DEBUT) Post Malone - Reputation 1,337,319
6(-3) Harry Styles - Late Night Talking 1,271,705 (+30,658)
7(DEBUT) Post Malone - Wrapped Around Your Finger 1,239,293
8(DEBUT) Post Malone - Lemon Tree 1,212,399
9(DEBUT) Post Malone, The Kid LAROI - Wasting Angels 1,199,041
10(DEBUT) Post Malone, Gunna - I Cannot Be (A Sadder Song)  1,196,999

Post Malonе - Twelve Carat Toothache
13(DEBUT) Insane 1,059,392
15(DEBUT) Love/Hate Letter to Alcohol 1,023,109
17(+60) One Right Now 971,255 (+613,466)
21(DEBUT) Euthanasia 811,660
25(DEBUT) When I'm Alone 802,634
35(DEBUT) Waiting for a Miracle 677,249
43(DEBUT) New Recording 12, Jan 3, 2020 573,222
Total Streams: 15,796,373 

Jun 3, 2022 9:07:53 GMT -5 ddlz said:

Post's album is not even Top 3 on Apple Music yet. At this point, he won't even be able to do MGK's last album numbers (93k) which is sad and unfortunate.

This is why you don't do predictions of album sales with less than 12 hours of tracking

Bad Bunny - Un Verano Tin Si
11(-7) Me Porto Bonito 1,142,890 (+53,732)
16(-10) Tití Me Preguntó 979,203 (+27,303)
18(-8) Ojitos Lindos 880,524 (+43,191)
22(-8) Moscow Mule 810,491 (+28,059)
28(-9) Party 737,282 (+26,742)
29(-9) Después de la Playa 731,451 (+28,372)
36(-13) Efecto 670,635 (+39,509)
53(-14) Tarot 515,584 (+13,475)
55(-14) Un Ratito 504,318 (+15,019)
61(-13) Yo No Soy Celoso 455,616 (+10,596)
70(-13) Neverita 414,979 (+6,550)
74(-16) La Corriente 407,751 (+10,208)
95(-15) Otro Atardecer 357,816 (+7,189)
106(-21) Andrea 343,940 (+3,623)
109(-16) Aguacero 338,396 (+7,228)
115(-15) Un Coco 323,201 (+3,325)
116(-10) Callaita 321,333 (+9,606)
118(-11) El Apagón 318,689 (+7,059)
126(-14) Dos Mil 16 310,165 (+5,827)
143(-14) Enséñame a Bailar 288,379 (+5,171)
151(-19) Me Fui de Vacaciones 281,301 (+4,548)
165(-26) Un Verano Sin Ti 272,750 (+755)
Total Streams: 11,406,694 (+1%)

Harry Styles - Harry's House
19(-11) Music for a Sushi Restaurant 857,257 (+6,859)
23(-14) Matilda 809,348 (-40,817)
24(-12) Daylight 807,300 (-17,878)
32(-14) Grapejuice 696,950 (-15,568)
33(-16) Little Freak 690,062 (-30,037)
34(-13) Satellite 678,888 (-16,364)
38(-13) Keep Driving 605,683 (-19,762)
41(-15) Cinema 594,465 (-18,733)
42(-15) Daydreaming 581,047 (-15,725)
47(-19) Love of My Life 563,367 (-19,568)
60(-17) Boyfriends 456,944 (-21,438)
Total Streams: 10,514,908 (-1%)

Others:
12(-7) Jack Harlow - First Class 1,129,217 (+67,881)
14(-7) Lizzo - About Damn Time 1,025,417 (+74,007)
20(-9) Future, Drake, Tems - WAIT FOR U 853,916 (+28,377)
26(-11) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 802,055 (+46,164)
27(-14) Kanye West, XXXTENTACION - True Love 744,015 (-55,850)
30(-14) Kendrick Lamar - N95 719,804 (-9,152)
31(DEBUT) Polo G - Distraction 718,436
37(-13) Future - PUFFIN ON ZOOTIEZ 609,080 (-21,824)
39(-9) Morgan Wallen - You Proof 601,489 (+42,501)
40(-8) KAROL G - PROVENZA 600,246 (+41,899)
44(-15) Kendrick Lamar - Die Hard 570,252 (-3,196)
45(-14) Sleepy Hallow, 347aidan - Die Young 563,868 (+4,948)
46(-13) J. Cole - No Role Modelz 563,396 (+16,551)
48(-6) Justin Bieber - Ghost 549,563 (+70,539)
49(-13) The Kid LAROI - STAY 546,039 (+36,777)
50(-13) Doja Cat - Woman 545,157 (+37,659)
51(-15) Morgan Wallen - Wasted On You 536,918 (+20,371)
52(-18) Calvin Harris, Dua Lipa, Young Thug - Potion 519,641 (-11,358)
57(-13) Zach Bryan - Something in the Orange 487,724 (-19,579)
58(-11) Jack Harlow - Dua Lipa 481,203 (+20,907)
59(-13) Stephen Sanchez - Until I Found You 475,491 (+9,271)
62(-17) Kendrick Lamar - Rich Spirit 452,580 (-14,652)
63(-14) Imagine Dragons - Enemy 452,337 (+12,699)
64(-13) Camila Cabello - Bam Bam 445,911 (+13,968)
66(-16) Kendrick Lamar - Silent Hill 419,428 (-14,870)
69(-17) Arctic Monkeys - 505 415,746 (-4,261)
71(-16) WILLOW - Wait a Minute! 414,155 (-64)
73(+8) Nicky Youre, dazy - Sunroof 410,347 (+66,490)
75(+23) Doja Cat - Vegas 398,584 (+75,220)
76(-17) Tears for Fears - Everybody Wants to Rule the World 397,389 (+4,046)
77(-13) Elley Duhé - MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT 394,064 (+18,047)
79(-19) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 391,177 (+5,049)
81(-15) Dove Cameron - Boyfriend 387,120 (+12,682)
83(-11) Becky G, KAROL G - MAMIII 383,845 (+20,742)
84(+3) Latto - Big Energy 382,882 (+45,137)
86(-16) Quavo, Takeoff - HOTEL LOBBY 376,186 (+8,525)
87(-19) Kodak Black - Super Gremlin 374,406 (+3,106)
88(-13) Megan Thee Stallion, Dua Lipa - Sweetest Pie 374,000 (+15,083)
89(-15) Tate McRae - she's all i wanna be 372,226 (+11,353)
92(+12) Musical Youth - Pass the Dutchie 362,940 (+50,180)
93(-20) The Walters - I Love You So 362,110 (+760)
97(-21) Tyler the Creator - See You Again 355,704 (-2,848)

103(-4) The Kid Laroi - Thousand Miles 346,934 (+26,142)
107(-13) Morgan Wallen - Thought You Should Know 343,709 (+12,633)
110(DEBUT) Panic! At the Disco - Viva Las Vengeance 336,541
113(-30) Kendrick Lamar - United in Grief 328,423 (-13,437)
117(+17) SleazyWorld Go, Lil Baby - Sleazy Flow (Remix) 320,858 (+44,368)
119(-30) Future, Drake - IM ON ONE 318,355 (-16,561)
125(-28) Kendrick Lamar - Father Time 311,391 (-13,862)
131(-17) Leah Kate - 10 Things I Hate About You 305,419 (+6,498)
132(-22) Yeat - Monëy so big 304,631 (-671)
139(-21) Jack Harlow - Churchill Downs 291,855 (-255)
141(-17) Ruth B. - Dandelions 289,203 (+2,419)
144(-24) Cafuné - Tek It 286,517 (-4,095)
150(+41) Lil Baby - Right On 282,124 (+38,966)
153(-5) Doja Cat - Get Into It (Yuh) 279,750 (+13,139)
156(-15) Em Beihold - Numb Little Bug 277,054 (+6,732)
160(-25) Cody Johnson - 'Til You Can't 274,299 (-2,110)
162(-7) Morgan Wallen - Don't Think Jesus 273,708 (+11,348)
166(-17) MoneyBagg Yo - See Wat I'm Sayin 272,086 (+6,666)
173(re-entry) Nate Smith - Whiskey On You 264,007
186(-28) Tyler Hubbard - 5 Foot 9 259,067 (-883)
193(-27) Taylor Swift - Don't Blame Me 256,679 (+1,300)
196(re-entry) blackbear, Machine Gun Kelly - gfy 254,218
198(-25) The Rare Occasions - Notion 252,933 (-452)
200(re-entry) Future - 712PM 251,362

Biggest Gains (50K+): Pass the Dutchie, Vegas, Sunroof, Ghost, One Right Now, About Damn Time, First Class, Me Porto Bonito, Cooped Up, As It Was

[gs]

So much of the GP didn't even know Post had a new album out and will give it curiosity streams so there's a chance it serves some longevity with a decent second day, best to keep expectations low though

[After Minutes]

Jun 4, 2022 9:09:09 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Circles, The Box, and Blinding Lights smashing during the beginning of the pandemic and now all their latest eras were full blown flukes has to be some full circle moment right?

Brother in Christ are you really comparing Post and Abel to Roddy?

[iHype.]

Jun 4, 2022 9:57:12 GMT -5 After Minutes said:

Jun 4, 2022 9:09:09 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Circles, The Box, and Blinding Lights smashing during the beginning of the pandemic and now all their latest eras were full blown flukes has to be some full circle moment right?

Brother in Christ are you really comparing Post and Abel to Roddy?

Point out where I said they’re at the same level. Quick.

[phieaglesfan712]

So assuming Billboard is consistent and doesn’t allow One Right Now to re-enter, how many Post songs should we expect to chart?

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2022 » / « 06 » / « 04 »

1(=) Jack Harlow - First Class 99.46(+1.33)
2(=) Harry Styles - As It Was 97.65(+0.14)
3(=) Latto - Big Energy 81.02(-0.05)
4(+1) Dove Cameron - Boyfriend 66.72(+0.71)
5(-1) The Kid Laroi & Justin Bieber - Stay 66.42(-0.19)
6(=) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 65.68(-0.13)
7(=) Imagine Dragons - Enemy From League Of Legends 60.83(-0.70) --
8(=) Justin Bieber - Ghost 60.57(+0.16)
9(=) Lil Nas X - Thats What I Want 57.91(-0.17)
10(=) Lizzo - About Damn Time 57.79(+1.30)

18(+1) Doja Cat - Get Into It (Yuh) 37.91(+0.81)

22(+4) Keith Urban - Wild Hearts 35.70(+1.31)

34(+2) Scotty McCreery - Damn Strait 29.01(+0.81)

42(+1) Future - WAIT FOR U (feat. Drake & Tems) 26.50(+0.95)

50(+1) Lady Gaga - Hold My Hand 23.12(+0.60)

87(+7) Harry Styles - Late Night Talking 13.43(+0.83) +

-(-) Kendrick Lamar - Silent Hill f/Kodak Black 11.71(+0.68)

[thegreatdivine]

This Post Malone era (so far) is definitely a flop by every measure and metric and we can say that because he had three MASSIVE consecutive album eras. Not just one. Or two. THREE. So, yes, while it might have been somewhat unrealistic to expect his fourth album era to match the performance of his last three, having this much of a drop is more than just a mere underperformance. It's a flop, if only for his standards.

It's so crazy to me that 9 months ago, so many people on here were boldly calling CLB a flop/underperformance for Drake and in the time since then, we've seen follow-up albums from artists who were DOMINATING in 2019/2020/2021 outright FLOP and the same people who called CLB a flop era for Drake have all the excuses for those other artists. Perspective really is everything.

With that being said, Post Malone should be fine. I want to believe he's established enough as a touring act to still be able to sell out arenas off the back of his first three albums. Plus, he's got his Posty Fest.

I will say, it's definitely interesting how many acts who debuted in the last 3-7 years, saw massive amounts of success and were being looked to as the future of the music industry, have cooled off now. It's damning that the biggest artists right now are still the Drakes and the Taylors of the world, the same acts who dominated the last decade.

[joshtheking]

I agree with what's being said above. An album can perform well but still be an underperformance depending on the artist's track record. I don't think this necessarily makes it a "flop" though, just an underperformance. There is a difference. We can not completely judge how the rest of his career will go on, but it isn't out of character for big stars to have an era that doesn't live up to their others

[rosalina4812]

Jun 4, 2022 9:09:09 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Circles, The Box, and Blinding Lights smashing during the beginning of the pandemic and now all their latest eras were full blown flukes has to be some full circle moment right?

These three artists are in completely different places on why they underperformed. For Post Malone, his singles just didn’t connect. One Right Now just wasn’t a huge hit enough to propel the album. And he focused on putting out collabs between albums which were never his strong suit anyway. Roddy Riich wouldn’t have fallen off if his second record was actually good. His single did well enough considering it was a slow jam and his debut was a surprise hit so he could have just dropped another album with catchy hooks to hardcarry but he didn’t. For The Weeknd, he had an overexposure problem. Couldn’t he have waited to drop another project with well-timed bundles? Now he got mogged by Gunna of all people. SAD!

[NeRD]

75(+23) Doja Cat - Vegas 398,584 (+75,220)

This is one to watch for in the coming months.

[ontopofthis]

Jun 4, 2022 8:26:33 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

Imagine using so much effort on dissing the album you love!

Uh, feelings do not outweigh facts. Just because you are into something that does not make its numbers good. That is why charts sections are a mess as it is. Stans are always trying to push their feelings as facts 

[dremolus - solarpunk]

I was discussing Post's streams in a music server and we brought up the '4th album curse', particularly in relation to albums that did worse than the third. I just wonder if we would've had this same discussion 12 years ago when Rated R didn't do as well as Good Girl Gone Bad

[ontopofthis]

Jun 4, 2022 10:26:57 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

This Post Malone era (so far) is definitely a flop by every measure and metric and we can say that because he had three MASSIVE consecutive album eras. Not just one. Or two. THREE. So, yes, while it might have been somewhat unrealistic to expect his fourth album era to match the performance of his last three, having this much of a drop is more than just a mere underperformance. It's a flop, if only for his standards.

It's so crazy to me that 9 months ago, so many people on here were boldly calling CLB a flop/underperformance for Drake and in the time since then, we've seen follow-up albums from artists who were DOMINATING in 2019/2020/2021 outright FLOP and the same people who called CLB a flop era for Drake have all the excuses for those other artists. Perspective really is everything.

With that being said, Post Malone should be fine. I want to believe he's established enough as a touring act to still be able to sell out arenas off the back of his first three albums. Plus, he's got his Posty Fest.

I will say, it's definitely interesting how many acts who debuted in the last 3-7 years, saw massive amounts of success and were being looked to as the future of the music industry, have cooled off now. It's damning that the biggest artists right now are still the Drakes and the Taylors of the world, the same acts who dominated the last decade.

Only an imbecile who needs to be ignored was saying that. It is strange how the internet always takes the most extreme opinions and tries to have those be the the standard 

Nevertheless, his first era is successful, but I would not say that it is massive. It is his One of the Boys with the next two being his Teenage Dream and Prism. He is the male Katy Perry to a tee, which I stated a year ago. What is surprising, though, is that Jack Harlow's album is also not holding up well even though he is the one who seemed to be primed to be the next Post Malone 

[ontopofthis]

That Kate Bush song just goes to show why the Billboard awards' ratings were disastrously low and why the general public is not paying any attention to Billboard. How is that song not the number one song? It is by far the most popular song in America, but since it does not have an imaginary airplay number it is not at the top. That is beyond ridiculous

[Groovy]

Jun 4, 2022 11:17:22 GMT -5 ontopofthis said:

That Kate Bush song just goes to show why the Billboard awards' ratings were disastrously low and why the general public is not paying any attention to Billboard. How is that song not the number one song? It is by far the most popular song in America, but since it does not have an imaginary airplay number it is not at the top. That is beyond ridiculous

I'm sorry but how does this make any sense?

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

I guess Pass the Dutchie is also getting a bit of the "Stranger Things" effect on Spotify ...

[iHype.]

Jun 4, 2022 11:06:39 GMT -5 ontopofthis said:

Jun 4, 2022 10:26:57 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

This Post Malone era (so far) is definitely a flop by every measure and metric and we can say that because he had three MASSIVE consecutive album eras. Not just one. Or two. THREE. So, yes, while it might have been somewhat unrealistic to expect his fourth album era to match the performance of his last three, having this much of a drop is more than just a mere underperformance. It's a flop, if only for his standards.

It's so crazy to me that 9 months ago, so many people on here were boldly calling CLB a flop/underperformance for Drake and in the time since then, we've seen follow-up albums from artists who were DOMINATING in 2019/2020/2021 outright FLOP and the same people who called CLB a flop era for Drake have all the excuses for those other artists. Perspective really is everything.

With that being said, Post Malone should be fine. I want to believe he's established enough as a touring act to still be able to sell out arenas off the back of his first three albums. Plus, he's got his Posty Fest.

I will say, it's definitely interesting how many acts who debuted in the last 3-7 years, saw massive amounts of success and were being looked to as the future of the music industry, have cooled off now. It's damning that the biggest artists right now are still the Drakes and the Taylors of the world, the same acts who dominated the last decade.

Only an imbecile who needs to be ignored was saying that. It is strange how the internet always takes the most extreme opinions and tries to have those be the the standard 

Nevertheless, his first era is successful, but I would not say that it is massive. It is his One of the Boys with the next two being his Teenage Dream and Prism. He is the male Katy Perry to a tee, which I stated a year ago. What is surprising, though, is that Jack Harlow's album is also not holding up well even though he is the one who seemed to be primed to be the next Post Malone 

That Katy Perry comparison is non sense.

As said his first 3 albums were all massive smashes.

Stoney was top 10 on the 2010s DECADE End Albums Chart. It is in no way similar to a One of the Boys sized era.

All his first 3 albums are past 5 million units in US and should reach Diamond when all is said and done. Beerbongs & Bentley made the top 10 of the 2010s Decade End, Hollywood is #2 on the 2020s Decade End. All 3 albums literally made the top 10 of Decade-End charts and will reach Diamond.

So yeah, based on the insane consistency he had this albums performance is more shocking.

[thegreatdivine]

Jun 4, 2022 11:05:57 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

I was discussing Post's streams in a music server and we brought up the '4th album curse', particularly in relation to albums that did worse than the third. I just wonder if we would've had this same discussion 12 years ago when Rated R didn't do as well as Good Girl Gone Bad

Do you have any examples of artists who experienced this fourth album curse?