Billboard Hot 100: 07/30/2022

[jasper0102]

Jul 16, 2022 6:33:17 GMT -5 Limited Edition said:

Expected performance from Lizzo so far. Shame because Special is a good album and deserves to have more hits than About Damn Time

Don't rule out the possibility of That's What I Want x Physical from becoming a hit yet.

[After Minutes]

Should we expect Steve Lacy's album to do numbers similar to Brent's (or slightly better)?

[Enigma.]

No, based on Spotify

[jasper0102]

Jul 16, 2022 7:16:50 GMT -5 After Minutes said:

Should we expect Steve Lacy's album to do numbers similar to Brent's (or slightly better)?

A very big no, mostly because he doesnt have as many songs on his album as Brent's and is doing nowhere near as good on streaming.

[firefox]

Wow new global #1 song on Spotify

[Groovy]

Special didn't help ADT much on streaming

[enwhy]

Lizzo's numbers are terrible. She didn't even crack 1M on Spotify! I have no clue why she can't seem to attract a consistent audience.

[thegreatdivine]

Jul 16, 2022 9:07:53 GMT -5 enwhy said:

Lizzo's numbers are terrible. She didn't even crack 1M on Spotify! I have no clue why she can't seem to attract a consistent audience.

Because people don't care for her songs beyond the ones that go viral on TikTok. That's always been the case with her music. I spoke on this weeks ago.

It's the reason why despite having multiple songs off her last album that were radio/chart ready, they all flopped and her older songs (which went viral on TikTok) were the ones that did well. Same thing is happening now. Only difference is that this time around, it's a newer song that went viral but unless she can get yet another song of hers to go viral, she won't be getting any other hits off her latest album.

[jasper0102]

Look, while I still think About Damn Time's gonna be number one this week, these first-day streaming numbers have shown it will have more to do with As It Was' continued losses and the airplay not peaking than anything from an album boost reminiscent of =.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - 07/15/22

1(=) Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God) 1,523,739 (-3,509)
2(+3) Steve Lacy - Bad Habit 1,453,505 (+421,345)
3(-1) Harry Styles - As It Was 1,221,042 (+32,566)
4(-1) Joji - Glimpse of Us 1,152,063 (-15,183)
5(+1) Bad Bunny, Chencho Corleone - Me Porto Bonito 1,138,866 (+111,553)
6(-2) Drake, 21 Savage - Jimmy Cooks 1,096,330 (+35,131)
7(+4) Lizzo - About Damn Time 986,913 (+281,849)
8(-1) Bad Bunny - Tití Me Preguntó 952,065 (+54,730)
9(-1) Doja Cat - Vegas 816,318 (+12,851)
10(-1) Post Malone, Doja Cat - I Like You (A Happier Song) 772,562 (+31,946)

Others:
11(+1) Jack Harlow - First Class 724,728 (+19,975)
12(+1) Harry Styles - Late Night Talking 715,005 (+18,095)
13(+3) OneRepublic - I Ain't Worried 714,714 (+37,948)
14(-4) Metallica - Master of Puppets 714,691 (-22,368)
15(-1) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 713,833 (+17,334)
16(-1) Future, Drake, Tems - WAIT FOR U 683,888 (-1,064)
17(+2) Bad Bunny - Efecto 643,416 (+27,364)
18(-1) Morgan Wallen - You Proof 630,878 (-26,399)
19(-1) Yung Gravy - Betty (Get Money) 628,666 (+6,330)
20(=) Bad Bunny - Moscow Mule 614,243 (+28,639)
21(+85) Steve Lacy, Fousheé - Sunshine 610,426 (+326,288)
22(-1) Bad Bunny, Bomba Estéreo - Ojitos Lindos 570,704 (-2,393)
23(-1) Nicky Youre, dazy - Sunroof 552,971 (+22,490)
24(DEBUT) Calvin Harris, Justin Timberlake, Halsey, Pharrell Williams - Stay With Me 541,262
25(DEBUT) Steve Lacy - Static 540,066
26(-3) Bad Bunny, Rauw Alejandro - Party 521,371 (+26,810)
27(re-entry) Steve Lacy - Mercury 508,751
28(+6) Luke Combs - The Kind of Love We Make 507,559 (+76,734)
29(DEBUT) Steve Lacy - Helmet 498,043
30(-5) Bad Bunny - Después de la Playa 492,905 (+28,493)
31(-5) Charlie Puth, Jung Kook - Left and Right 488,351 (+24,622)
32(DEBUT) Lizzo - 2 Be Love (Am I Ready) 481,739
33(-9) Zach Bryan - Something in the Orange 476,830 (-8,724)
35(-7) Beyoncé - BREAK MY SOUL 467,939 (+10,230)
36(-7) J. Cole - No Role Modelz 462,309 (+7,123)
38(-7) The Weeknd - Die For You 452,546 (-290)
39(-7) KAROL G - PROVENZA 450,224 (+8,136)
40(re-entry) j-hope - MORE 445,546
41(-6) Morgan Wallen - Wasted On You 443,099 (+12,504)
42(-6) Post Malone, Roddy Ricch - Cooped Up 438,169 (+9,405)
44(-3) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 429,488 (+20,083)
45(-2) Bad Bunny, Jhay Cortez - Tarot 428,399 (+21,233)
47(-14) Future - PUFFIN ON ZOOTIEZ 419,301 (-22,784)
48(-6) Bailey Zimmerman - Rock and A Hard Place 414,970 (+6,448)
49(DEBUT) Steve Lacy - Buttons 414,779
51(-11) Pharrell Williams, 21 Savage, Tyler, The Creator - Cash In Cash Out 411,550 (-637)
52(DEBUT) Porter Robinson - Everything Goes On 411,306
53(-9) Drake - Sticky 409,854 (+6,719)
54(DEBUT) j-hope - Arson 409,599
55(-18) Stephen Sanchez - Until I Found You 409,073 (-19,402)
61(-10) Drake - Massive 370,806 (-173)
62(-10) Cole Swindell - She Had Me At Heads Carolina 366,674 (-1,145)
63(-13) Cardi B, Kanye West, Lil Durk - Hot Shit 363,661 (-11,460)
64(-9) Tears for Fears - Everybody Wants to Rule the World 363,077 (+1,448)
66(-17) Sleepy Hallow, 347aidan - Die Young 360,872 (-16,207)
67(-14) Brent Faiyaz - ALL MINE 360,844 (-5,710)
69(-2) Bad Bunny, Tony Dize - La Corriente 351,889 (+21,121)
70(-4) Latto - Big Energy 349,848 (+17,262)
71(+22) Noah Kahan - Stick Season 346,560 (+42,652)
72(DEBUT) Steve Lacy - Amber 344,100
73(DEBUT) Steve Lacy - Cody Freestyle 343,060
74(-13) Kid Cudi - love. 342,630 (+1,380)
75(-16) Joji - SLOW DANCING IN THE DARK 342,110 (-7,003)
76(-8) Bad Bunny - Un Ratito 341,670 (+15,190)
81(DEBUT) Steve Lacy - Give You the World 331,821
85(-14) Bailey Zimmerman - Fall in Love 323,942 (-1,256)
87(-11) WILLOW - Wait a Minute! 320,647 (+,2073)
93(DEBUT) j-hope - = (Equal Sign) 317,182
94(DEBUT) Steve Lacy 2Gether (Interlude) 316,723
100(DEBUT) Zach Bryan - Quittin' Time 311,358

103(re-entry) Lizzo - Grrrls 309,185
104(-30) Quavo, Takeoff - HOTEL LOBBY (Unc & Phew) 308,244 (-11,938)
107(DEBUT) j-hope - Pandora's Box 305,221
108(-16) Dove Cameron - Boyfriend 304,853 (+557)
114(-20) Taylor Swift - Don't Blame Me 295,455 (-7,731)
116(-9) Morgan Wallen - Thought You Should Know 293,960 (+12,363)
123(DEBUT) Lizzo - The Sign 282,839
125(DEBUT) j-hope - STOP 281,297
130(-22) Musical Youth - Pass the Dutchie 279,025 (-1,018)
133(DEBUT) j-hope - Safety Zone 276,602
134(-20) The Weeknd, Lana Del Rey - Stargirl Interlude 276,598 (+2,233)
136(-21) Ruth B. - Dandelions 275,619 (+1,625)
137(DEBUT) j-hope - What if... 275,137
138(-56) Fivio Foreign, The Kid LAROI - Paris to Tokyo 274,706 (-34,769)
139(-22) ERNEST, Morgan Wallen - Flower Shops 273,423 (+2,216)
140(-51) Tyler Hubbard - 5 Foot 9 273,106 (-32,567)
141(-23) Elley Duhé - MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT 272,719 (+3,924)
142(re-entry) Zach Bryan - Summertime Blues 272,172
147(-20) $uicideboy$ - Antarctica 270,063 (+9,600)
148(-23) Taylor Swift - Cruel Summer 269,180 (+7,338)
155(-29) Cigarettes After Sex - Apocalypse 261,464 (-210)
158(DEBUT) j-hope - Future 257,511
161(-30) AJR - World's Smallest Violin 254,633 (-2,511)
167(-27) Mr.Kitty - After Dark 251,967 (+7,338)
170(DEBUT) j-hope - Music Box : Reflection  251,347
171(DEBUT) j-hope - Intro 251,015
176(-2) Marshmello, Khalid - Numb 250,147 (+15,546)
177(-32) Metallica - Enter Sandman 249,324 (+2,526)
181(-12) Conan Gray - Memories 246,531 (+8,615)
185(-22) Nate Smith - Whiskey On You 242,446 (+2,535)
187(-21) Jack Harlow - Dua Lipa 242,271 (+2,877)
188(-32) The Kid LAROI - Thousand Miles 242,249 (-594)
191(-12) Polo G - Distraction 241,773 (+11,544)
196(-55) Yeat - Rich Minion 240,219 (-9,392)

Total First Day Streams for Steve Lacy - Gemini Rights: 5,361,274
Total First Day Streams for j-hope - Jack In The Box: 3,070,457
Total First Day Streams for Lizzo - Special: 2,060,676

Biggest Gains (50K+): The Kind of Love We Make, Sunshine, Tití Me Preguntó, About Damn Time, Me Porto Bonito, Bad Habit

Holy fucking shit, nothing else matters for today's charts except for the fact Porter Robinson debuted!

I kid (1/2). Congrats to Steve Lacy and j-hope for their best performing albums to date.

[Envoirment]

Great to see a nice boost for Lizzo from the album release. I wasn't expecting much of an album bomb, but was hoping it would do a little better. Hopefully the success of "About Damn Time" will give the next single a good shot of becoming a decent sized hit and the album some longevity. Although I'm not sure what the second single should be.

[Deleted]

ADT is actually a surprise hit by Lizzo and I would be suprised that she will get another one from now on...

[shayonce]

you never know with tiktok. I think her album have lots of meme, tiktok ready songs.

[atg]

This better be the true shifting point where we stop expecting artists to always do smash numbers with their albums…

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2022 » / « 07 » / « 16 »

1(=) Lizzo - About Damn Time 116.37(+0.60)

2(=) Jack Harlow - First Class 103.33(-1.45)
3(=) Harry Styles - As It Was 99.57(-0.41)
4(=) Em Beihold - Numb Little Bug 66.35(-0.17)
5(=) Latto & Mariah Carey - Big Energy (Remix) [feat. DJ Khaled] 64.27(-0.84)
6(=) Doja Cat - Get Into It (Yuh) 62.55(-0.12)
7(=) The Kid Laroi & Justin Bieber - Stay 60.46(-0.73)
8(+2) Beyoncé - BREAK MY SOUL 58.07(+1.51)
9(-1) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 57.46(-0.27)
10(+1) Harry Styles - Late Night Talking 56.57(+0.81)

14(=) Nicky Youre & Dazy - Sunroof 46.15(+0.87)

15(=) Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill (A Deal with God) 45.63(+1.33)

21(+1) Tim Mcgraw - 7500 OBO 38.27(+1.13)

22(-1) Post Malone - I Like You (A Happier Song) [feat. Doja Cat] 38.19(+0.70)

-(-) Wisin/camilo/los Legendarios - Buenos Dias 7.22(+1.20) +

[85la]

Jul 15, 2022 14:37:29 GMT -5 chingaling said:

Jul 15, 2022 14:14:41 GMT -5 Music Fan said:

Looks like Lizzo is not going to have an album bomb as a few people predicted / hoped. She only has 3 songs on the iTunes Top 100 and so far only ADT is #28 on Apple Music. Surely Spotify will give her better numbers, but it's not looking even like a mini-bomb.

It was obvious. She was very lucky to have a hit this time around. She is not an established artist / doesn't have a strong fanbase ...

It wasn't obvious though. Cuz I Love You was a very strong album and era, so she was about as established as a first hit album can make you. Yes it didn't take off right away, but that's not at all uncommon for a major label debut album. If your first album starts off slow and then becomes big, it's completely reasonable to expect the sophomore effort will open big, as is usually the case. Plus ADT turned out to be a big lead single, so it's a completely realistic expectation. Of course not guaranteed though, sometimes fans don't turn out for your follow-up, as will probably be the case here, so she indeed might be a more of-the-moment, singles artist.

[jenglisbe]

Jul 16, 2022 12:46:09 GMT -5 85la said:

Jul 15, 2022 14:37:29 GMT -5 chingaling said:

It was obvious. She was very lucky to have a hit this time around. She is not an established artist / doesn't have a strong fanbase ...

It wasn't obvious though. Cuz I Love You was a very strong album and era, so she was about as established as a first hit album can make you. Yes it didn't take off right away, but that's not at all uncommon for a major label debut album. If your first album starts off slow and then becomes big, it's completely reasonable to expect the sophomore effort will open big, as is usually the case. Plus ADT turned out to be a big lead single, so it's a completely realistic expectation. Of course not guaranteed though, sometimes fans don't turn out for your follow-up, as will probably be the case here, so she indeed might be a more of-the-moment, singles artist.

"ADT" hasn't been huge in streaming, though, which is a sign the album wouldn't do well there.

[thegreatdivine]

Jul 16, 2022 12:46:09 GMT -5 85la said:

Jul 15, 2022 14:37:29 GMT -5 chingaling said:

It was obvious. She was very lucky to have a hit this time around. She is not an established artist / doesn't have a strong fanbase ...

It wasn't obvious though. Cuz I Love You was a very strong album and era, so she was about as established as a first hit album can make you. Yes it didn't take off right away, but that's not at all uncommon for a major label debut album. If your first album starts off slow and then becomes big, it's completely reasonable to expect the sophomore effort will open big, as is usually the case. Plus ADT turned out to be a big lead single, so it's a completely realistic expectation. Of course not guaranteed though, sometimes fans don't turn out for your follow-up, as will probably be the case here, so she indeed might be a more of-the-moment, singles artist.

Um, no, it wasn't? Cuz I Love You debuted at #6 on the Billboard 200 with 41,000 units. 3 songs off the original album were pushed as singles. 2 of them — Tempo & Cuz I Love You, failed to chart on the Hot 100, while Juice, peaked at #82.

The two songs that did well were older Lizzo songs — Good As Hell (originally released on March 8, 2016) and Truth Hurts (originally released on September 19, 2017). They got added to the original album as part of a deluxe/super deluxe edition after going viral on TikTok and becoming chart successes. No other song off the original album came close in terms of commercial achievements.

Rumors, originally the lead single off Lizzo's album, featured Cardi B and peaked at #4 on the Hot 100 but left the top 10 after a week and didn't perform as well on radio compared to Good As Hell/Truth Hurts. It eventually got scrapped and didn't make it on the album.

About Damn Time debuted at #50 on the Hot 100 and didn't reach the top 10 until weeks later, after it had gone viral on TikTok.

Considering the fact that all 3 of Lizzo's career hit singles so far have been attached to going viral on TikTok, it's worth saying that she isn't an established album/singles artist because her success on the charts completely hinges on whether or not she's able to get a song to go viral on TikTok.

[degen]

I’m pretty sure radio will be excited to play the follow up single to “About Damn Time.” Lizzo is an A-list celebrity so she has the name recognition and multi format appeal to continue doing well with more radio hits. If anything her songs seem to be tailor made for radio/TV commercials moreso than they are for Tik Tok. I think “Am I Ready” would do well as a 2nd single on Top 40/Hot AC/AC. They should shift focus to pushing that as soon as ADT hits #1.

[Groovy]

How is Lizzo an A-list celebrity?

[Envoirment]

Kate Bush's streams have been holding up really well on spotify since the Stranger Things boost. Still doing ~1.5 million+

I hope she can continue to maintain those streams for another few weeks or so as her airplay continues to gain at a fast pace. Jack Harlow's airplay is falling quite fast now and Harry looks to finally be starting to fall with "As It Was". I assume in part due to "Late Night Talking" impacting a little bit on it as that's now top 5 on Pop radio ("As It Was" is #2). Lizzo will be #1 with the album boost/song discount giving it enough of a points increase to pass Harry.

The main question is how Beyoncé does the next few weeks. "Break My Soul" has decreased quite a bit in streaming but its airplay has been gaining extremely well. We will hopefully get a music video released soon, plus the album release boost. Those could be big enough to get it to #1 as it should have quite a lot of airplay by then, especially if the music video drops the same day as the album. It's also possible an album track gets a music video released when the album drops as well and takes off/goes viral to debut at #1. (I wouldn't be surprise if Beyoncé has music videos for the whole album ready and lined up to drop the same day the album is released).

I'm just trying my hardest to find a path for Kate to get a week at #1. Lizzo will likely have this week and next at #1. Her airplay will likely start falling next week as she appears to be peaking on Pop and will peak on HAC radio soon.

I wouldn't be surprised if Lizzo ends up being a long running #1 without anyone challenging her much due to her massive airplay/lack of big new releases though.

[chartfreak]

So Ellie & Sean did not debut on the top 200?

[rideordie]

Jul 16, 2022 17:30:37 GMT -5 Envoirment said:

Kate Bush's streams have been holding up really well on spotify since the Stranger Things boost. Still doing ~1.5 million+

I hope she can continue to maintain those streams for another few weeks or so as her airplay continues to gain at a fast pace. Jack Harlow's airplay is falling quite fast now and Harry looks to finally be starting to fall with "As It Was". I assume in part due to "Late Night Talking" impacting a little bit on it as that's now top 5 on Pop radio ("As It Was" is #2). Lizzo will be #1 with the album boost/song discount giving it enough of a points increase to pass Harry.

The main question is how Beyoncé does the next few weeks. "Break My Soul" has decreased quite a bit in streaming but its airplay has been gaining extremely well. We will hopefully get a music video released soon, plus the album release boost. Those could be big enough to get it to #1 as it should have quite a lot of airplay by then, especially if the music video drops the same day as the album. It's also possible an album track gets a music video released when the album drops as well and takes off/goes viral to debut at #1. (I wouldn't be surprise if Beyoncé has music videos for the whole album ready and lined up to drop the same day the album is released).

I'm just trying my hardest to find a path for Kate to get a week at #1. Lizzo will likely have this week and next at #1. Her airplay will likely start falling next week as she appears to be peaking on Pop and will peak on HAC radio soon.

I wouldn't be surprised if Lizzo ends up being a long running #1 without anyone challenging her much due to her massive airplay/lack of big new releases though.

[rideordie]

Jul 16, 2022 17:40:21 GMT -5 rideordie said:

Jul 16, 2022 17:30:37 GMT -5 Envoirment said:

Kate Bush's streams have been holding up really well on spotify since the Stranger Things boost. Still doing ~1.5 million+

I hope she can continue to maintain those streams for another few weeks or so as her airplay continues to gain at a fast pace. Jack Harlow's airplay is falling quite fast now and Harry looks to finally be starting to fall with "As It Was". I assume in part due to "Late Night Talking" impacting a little bit on it as that's now top 5 on Pop radio ("As It Was" is #2). Lizzo will be #1 with the album boost/song discount giving it enough of a points increase to pass Harry.

The main question is how Beyoncé does the next few weeks. "Break My Soul" has decreased quite a bit in streaming but its airplay has been gaining extremely well. We will hopefully get a music video released soon, plus the album release boost. Those could be big enough to get it to #1 as it should have quite a lot of airplay by then, especially if the music video drops the same day as the album. It's also possible an album track gets a music video released when the album drops as well and takes off/goes viral to debut at #1. (I wouldn't be surprise if Beyoncé has music videos for the whole album ready and lined up to drop the same day the album is released).

I'm just trying my hardest to find a path for Kate to get a week at #1. Lizzo will likely have this week and next at #1. Her airplay will likely start falling next week as she appears to be peaking on Pop and will peak on HAC radio soon.

I wouldn't be surprised if Lizzo ends up being a long running #1 without anyone challenging her much due to her massive airplay/lack of big new releases though.

I can see Lizzo getting multiple weeks at no.1. her airplay is strong enough. Her only challenge would be Beyoncé and that’s in the event that her album has a significant impact on her single.

[rainygirl]

Jul 16, 2022 17:54:42 GMT -5 rideordie said:

Jul 16, 2022 17:40:21 GMT -5 rideordie said:

I can see Lizzo getting multiple weeks at no.1. her airplay is strong enough. Her only challenge would be Beyoncé and that’s in the event that her album has a significant impact on her single.

her challenge will be Nicki next week .. that song that will have an easy path to number 1

[Push The Button]

Jul 16, 2022 17:33:00 GMT -5 chartfreak said:

So Ellie & Sean did not debut on the top 200?

I love the song so that’s pretty much in line with where my music taste is performing with the mainstream right now lol

[85la]

Jul 16, 2022 13:24:43 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Jul 16, 2022 12:46:09 GMT -5 85la said:

It wasn't obvious though. Cuz I Love You was a very strong album and era, so she was about as established as a first hit album can make you. Yes it didn't take off right away, but that's not at all uncommon for a major label debut album. If your first album starts off slow and then becomes big, it's completely reasonable to expect the sophomore effort will open big, as is usually the case. Plus ADT turned out to be a big lead single, so it's a completely realistic expectation. Of course not guaranteed though, sometimes fans don't turn out for your follow-up, as will probably be the case here, so she indeed might be a more of-the-moment, singles artist.

Um, no, it wasn't? Cuz I Love You debuted at #6 on the Billboard 200 with 41,000 units. 3 songs off the original album were pushed as singles. 2 of them — Tempo & Cuz I Love You, failed to chart on the Hot 100, while Juice, peaked at #82.

The two songs that did well were older Lizzo songs — Good As Hell (originally released on March 8, 2016) and Truth Hurts (originally released on September 19, 2017). They got added to the original album as part of a deluxe/super deluxe edition after going viral on TikTok and become chart successes. No other song off the original album came close in terms of commercial achievements.

Rumors, originally the lead single off Lizzo's album, featured Cardi B and peaked at #4 on the Hot 100 but left the top 10 after a week and didn't perform as well on radio compared to Good As Hell/Truth Hurts. It eventually got scrapped and didn't make it on the album.

About Damn Time debuted at #50 on the Hot 100 and didn't reach the top 10 until weeks later, after it had gone viral on TikTok.

Considering the fact that all 3 of Lizzo's career hit singles so far have been attached to going viral on TikTok, it's worth saying that she isn't an established album/singles artist because her success on the charts completely hinges on whether or not she's able to get a song to go viral on TikTok.

So, are we completely discounting viral hits as "legitimate" hits, when a very substantial portion of today's hits are due to virality, and that this in itself cannot create some degree of "establishment" or star-making clout for that artist that can lead to future demand through more traditional means? Bottom line, if a song ends up having any combination of enough sales, streaming, or airplay to do well on the charts, then it's a hit! And yes I'm aware that Truth Hurts and Good as Hell were first released a couple years before and weren't on the original version of Cuz I Love You and were later added to deluxe versions, so if you want to put that asterisk by it then go ahead, but this is why I referred to it as the Cuz I Love You "Album/Era," lumping the original album together with whatever songs were hits around that time as well (which is my understanding of what an "era" means). But at the end of the day, since Billboard/Nielsen ultimately combined the deluxe versions of the album that had TH and GAH into the same ranking for the original album, which has been done many times for other artists, we have to treat Cuz I Love You as generally a solid success.

And yes, no other songs on the album did very well (I thought I remember Juice charting a little higher than its #82 peak and being on the chart for a few months, but I guess not), but I'd imagine some of the other songs would have gotten at least some activity to keep the album afloat, as though it only debuted at #6, it eventually peaked at #4 and spent at least 15 weeks in the top ten, and ranked at #20 on Billboard's 2019 year-end as well as #41 for 2020. And aside from its commercial performance, it also received very strong reviews from most critics, and was nominated for album of the year at the Grammy's and won Best Urban Contemporary album, so it was definitely well-liked and well-received.

And yes Rumors wasn't a huge success, but of course it's not uncommon for artists to have missteps in the middle of successful runs (was this even officially announced as a "lead" single for a new album? A quick search I just did didn't reveal so, but many artists have come back from failed singles announced as "leads" as well).

Lastly, let me reiterate that I did not say it was assured Lizzo would definitely smash hard right out of the gate, just that it would not at all be unreasonable to say she could have, because she was definitely a thing in 2019-2020.

[85la]

Jul 16, 2022 16:15:14 GMT -5 Groovy said:

How is Lizzo an A-list celebrity?

She definitely was in 2019-2020 (to argue anything other than this would be completely delusional), and About Damn Time is big now, so I would still say yes.

[Groovy]

Jul 16, 2022 19:28:21 GMT -5 85la said:

Jul 16, 2022 16:15:14 GMT -5 Groovy said:

How is Lizzo an A-list celebrity?

She definitely was in 2019-2020 (to argue anything other than this would be completely delusional), and About Damn Time is big now, so I would still say yes.

Nothing you said here answered my question but okay.

[rideordie]

Jul 16, 2022 19:02:38 GMT -5 rainygirl said:

Jul 16, 2022 17:54:42 GMT -5 rideordie said:

I can see Lizzo getting multiple weeks at no.1. her airplay is strong enough. Her only challenge would be Beyoncé and that’s in the event that her album has a significant impact on her single.

her challenge will be Nicki next week .. that song that will have an easy path to number 1

Nicki? If DWHAP didn’t go no.1 I don’t see how her new single will. But we’ll see.