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Post by Juan Carlos on Aug 19, 2022 14:41:37 GMT -5
Leak might have been intentional to drum up hype for the final release, actually. We’ve seen it before with “Hold It Against Me.” The fact that so many people heard this before any version of it got out is amazing though. I agree with you that the leak was intentional because it tends to create hype upon its official release as you said in regards of "Hold It Against Me". However, I think it wasn't going to happen if there wasn't any information about the expected release date that was meant to be today (despite both Elton and/or Britney didn't confirm that and Britney wasn't mentioned at all in the announcement, aside that deleted Instagram post where she indicates her involvement in the track), so I'm inclined to think that it happened because people were so sure that it's going to be released today and they received a surprise when they discovered that it wasn't.
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Post by leonagwen on Aug 19, 2022 14:52:20 GMT -5
I heard this today and it's actually pretty good!
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Post by upsidedown on Aug 19, 2022 14:59:13 GMT -5
The leak is the final version. I agree the mixing is off - it sounds like Brit is singing underwater. The leak is also not HQ either, so I wonder if some of the mixing questions might be solved with a simple HQ edit.
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Post by Koochie on Aug 19, 2022 15:12:36 GMT -5
Leak might have been intentional to drum up hype for the final release, actually. We’ve seen it before with “Hold It Against Me.” The fact that so many people heard this before any version of it got out is amazing though. I agree with you that the leak was intentional because it tends to create hype upon its official release as you said in regards of "Hold It Against Me". However, I think it wasn't going to happen if there wasn't any information about the expected release date that was meant to be today (despite both Elton and/or Britney didn't confirm that and Britney wasn't mentioned at all in the announcement, aside that deleted Instagram post where she indicates her involvement in the track), so I'm inclined to think that it happened because people were so sure that it's going to be released today and they received a surprise when they discovered that it wasn't. I think you misunderstood. I think the leak was done intentionally by Elton’s team. The leak is the final version. I agree the mixing is off - it sounds like Brit is singing underwater. The leak is also not HQ either, so I wonder if some of the mixing questions might be solved with a simple HQ edit. All I’ll say is that the HQ is going around and the mixing is still off as far as I can tell.
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Post by skizzo on Aug 19, 2022 16:05:58 GMT -5
Britney has quite a few songs now starting with "Hold"
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Aug 19, 2022 16:30:19 GMT -5
I like this more each time I listen. I really think it actually has hit potential, on both pop and hot ac.
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Post by Juan Carlos on Aug 19, 2022 17:17:14 GMT -5
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Post by Koochie on Aug 19, 2022 17:34:09 GMT -5
Yeah, the leak is the demo lol. They cleaned up her vocals and added Elton’s to that portion.
The more I listen the more I’m inclined to agree that this could actually do something. I didn’t expect it to make a splash at all, but I think it’ll go top 40 at least.
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Post by degen on Aug 19, 2022 17:50:02 GMT -5
Yeah, the leak is the demo lol. They cleaned up her vocals and added Elton’s to that portion. The more I listen the more I’m inclined to agree that this could actually do something. I didn’t expect it to make a splash at all, but I think it’ll go top 40 at least. I mean judging by the fact alone that “Cold Heart” was played on pop radio there’s no reason to think this won’t be played. It’s probably actually a pretty safe bet for a radio hit. It will be interesting to see how it does In streaming though. Britney obviously won’t have the same streaming pull as Dua Lipa, however I can see it perform solid numbers in the first few days from curiosity listens, and then drop from there. Overall I’d say this is pretty much guaranteed to go Top 20 on Hot AC, AC and Pop. Unless of course its a bad song and not connecting with people. From the clip Elton posted it sounds like it has A nice vibe, although I’m getting super robotic Britney vocal teas here and I’m not a fan of that.
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Post by upsidedown on Aug 19, 2022 18:41:23 GMT -5
Yeah, the leak is the demo lol. They cleaned up her vocals and added Elton’s to that portion. The more I listen the more I’m inclined to agree that this could actually do something. I didn’t expect it to make a splash at all, but I think it’ll go top 40 at least. I mean judging by the fact alone that “Cold Heart” was played on pop radio there’s no reason to think this won’t be played. It’s probably actually a pretty safe bet for a radio hit. It will be interesting to see how it does In streaming though. Britney obviously won’t have the same streaming pull as Dua Lipa, however I can see it perform solid numbers in the first few days from curiosity listens, and then drop from there. Overall I’d say this is pretty much guaranteed to go Top 20 on Hot AC, AC and Pop. Unless of course its a bad song and not connecting with people. From the clip Elton posted it sounds like it has A nice vibe, although I’m getting super robotic Britney vocal teas here and I’m not a fan of that. wait what? did you listen to the full leak? this is the clearest her voice has been in a while with little filtering. the polished version seemed to clean up some things but her voice is still largely unfiltered/unauto-tuned..
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Post by upsidedown on Aug 19, 2022 18:41:53 GMT -5
Yeah, the leak is the demo lol. They cleaned up her vocals and added Elton’s to that portion. The more I listen the more I’m inclined to agree that this could actually do something. I didn’t expect it to make a splash at all, but I think it’ll go top 40 at least. We've been bamboozled so many times with the whole "the final version is gonna be different than the leak!!" that I'm shook that this time it's actually true lol I also imagine this may have a Day 1 radio deal so Top 40 should be very easy IMO.
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Post by upsidedown on Aug 19, 2022 18:44:50 GMT -5
This TikTok has a longer version of the apparently finished mix
https://www.tiktok.com/@juansans_/video/7133709485444533510
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Post by jgarbary on Aug 19, 2022 19:05:30 GMT -5
Is it just me, or has CHR been playing a lot more Britney lately, in the lead up to what could now be a big pop comeback for her? I know Toxic has been one of the top gold tracks across the board for a while, but I’ve also been hearing Baby One More Time and Womanizer a ton on KIIS lately.. plus Oops I Did It Again a bunch on my local station. It just seems like radio could be gearing up for something big
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Post by upsidedown on Aug 19, 2022 19:11:51 GMT -5
Is it just me, or has CHR been playing a lot more Britney lately, in the lead up to what could now be a big pop comeback for her? I know Toxic has been one of the top gold tracks across the board for a while, but I’ve also been hearing Baby One More Time and Womanizer a ton on KIIS lately.. plus Oops I Did It Again a bunch on my local station. It just seems like radio could be gearing up for something big I think a lot of pop programmers have accepted that a lot of her hits are worthy of gold play now. That wasn't the case for a while, where even a lot of her big hits would disappear or not test well. It seems over the last couple years, especially with a number of her songs going viral on TikTok, that programmers are realizing that they work.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Aug 19, 2022 19:51:48 GMT -5
This will be huge in Europe
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Post by BRhap786 on Aug 19, 2022 20:03:06 GMT -5
This is so good! Hoping for at least Top 20 on Pop.
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Post by Koochie on Aug 19, 2022 21:32:00 GMT -5
You can tell from the demo cut that her vocals are spliced a bit, but that’s it. Not a clean take but her vocals aren’t touched much. Yeah, the leak is the demo lol. They cleaned up her vocals and added Elton’s to that portion. The more I listen the more I’m inclined to agree that this could actually do something. I didn’t expect it to make a splash at all, but I think it’ll go top 40 at least. We've been bamboozled so many times with the whole "the final version is gonna be different than the leak!!" that I'm shook that this time it's actually true lol you should have more faith in me by now 😔
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Post by Dylan :) on Aug 20, 2022 1:53:25 GMT -5
I just saw a video of a nightclub in Sydney playing the full leak
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Post by leonagwen on Aug 20, 2022 9:22:38 GMT -5
Britney has been away from the music scene for awhile. She can come up with the most epic song and they'll be no guarantee that it will be a big hit. Look at Lady Gaga for example, most people thought that Hold My Hand from the Top Gun Soundtrack was gonna be a huge hit but it only peaked around #20 on Pop, while One Republic I Ain't Worried from The Top Gun Soundtrack is becoming a huge hit.
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Post by big2000 on Aug 20, 2022 10:37:15 GMT -5
Is it just me, or has CHR been playing a lot more Britney lately, in the lead up to what could now be a big pop comeback for her? I know Toxic has been one of the top gold tracks across the board for a while, but I’ve also been hearing Baby One More Time and Womanizer a ton on KIIS lately.. plus Oops I Did It Again a bunch on my local station. It just seems like radio could be gearing up for something big I think so. I’ve heard Baby One More Time and Toxic multiple times on my CHR station. We’ll see if they jump on this one.
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Post by Koochie on Aug 20, 2022 11:15:09 GMT -5
Britney has been away from the music scene for awhile. She can come up with the most epic song and they'll be no guarantee that it will be a big hit. Look at Lady Gaga for example, most people thought that Hold My Hand from the Top Gun Soundtrack was gonna be a huge hit but it only peaked around #20 on Pop, while One Republic I Ain't Worried from The Top Gun Soundtrack is becoming a huge hit. imma save this L for you just in case Leona Whois tries to make a comeback
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Post by upsidedown on Aug 20, 2022 11:51:10 GMT -5
Britney has been away from the music scene for awhile. She can come up with the most epic song and they'll be no guarantee that it will be a big hit. Look at Lady Gaga for example, most people thought that Hold My Hand from the Top Gun Soundtrack was gonna be a huge hit but it only peaked around #20 on Pop, while One Republic I Ain't Worried from The Top Gun Soundtrack is becoming a huge hit. No shade to Gaga, but who thought Hold My Hand was going to be a big hit?
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Post by leonagwen on Aug 20, 2022 12:23:51 GMT -5
Britney has been away from the music scene for awhile. She can come up with the most epic song and they'll be no guarantee that it will be a big hit. Look at Lady Gaga for example, most people thought that Hold My Hand from the Top Gun Soundtrack was gonna be a huge hit but it only peaked around #20 on Pop, while One Republic I Ain't Worried from The Top Gun Soundtrack is becoming a huge hit. imma save this L for you just in case Leona Whois tries to make a comeback If Gwen Stefani released a new song I wouldn't expect it to be a huge hit in 2022 but I would have if it was 2007 and Gwen is one of my top 3 faves.
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Post by beachboi69 on Aug 20, 2022 15:21:23 GMT -5
Britney has been away from the music scene for awhile. She can come up with the most epic song and they'll be no guarantee that it will be a big hit. Look at Lady Gaga for example, most people thought that Hold My Hand from the Top Gun Soundtrack was gonna be a huge hit but it only peaked around #20 on Pop, while One Republic I Ain't Worried from The Top Gun Soundtrack is becoming a huge hit. No shade to Gaga, but who thought Hold My Hand was going to be a big hit? No shade to Gaga either but she said it took her two years to create that turd. Lol all the monsters were expecting it to be a big hit. One Republic ended up winning. This song is ok but it's No Cold Heart.
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Post by Choco on Aug 20, 2022 16:09:30 GMT -5
Gaga only said that because the song was coming in 2020 with the film and COVID delays happened.
Don't let Leona derail the thread tho.
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Aug 20, 2022 16:16:20 GMT -5
Honestly who as a Britney fan could possibly care if the song peaks at #108 or #1. Not even necessary to state, but there is absolutely nothing to prove. To anyone. Thinking it sounds like a hit should not be equated to feeling like she needs one, which she doesn’t. She’s had all the hits, all the times. Literally whatever is left is gravy on top.
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Post by It's me, bitch. on Aug 20, 2022 17:01:01 GMT -5
Nobody is worried about BlackPink, lol. It’s number one right now on iTunes.
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Post by Maximillian on Aug 20, 2022 17:52:20 GMT -5
People love a comeback kid, and Britney is so perfectly poised for that. This isn’t as simple as “age” or “time away” from pop, when she just created massive headlines for her freedom. People will be curious. This should have momentum. Based on TikTok and Twitter, people are VERY excited.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 20, 2022 17:55:03 GMT -5
No shade to Gaga, but who thought Hold My Hand was going to be a big hit? No shade to Gaga either but she said it took her two years to create that turd. Lol all the monsters were expecting it to be a big hit. The real winners are those who don’t take people who live in delusion seriously.
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Post by Choco on Aug 20, 2022 17:59:28 GMT -5
I think "Cold Heart" is partially at fault for the rising expectations. I have no idea how it'll perform but CH is definitely an anomaly and best case scenario (and Dua is a much bigger name on radio these days than Britney, fwiw). Elton's subsequent releases did nothing on the charts, except for some Ed Sheeran collabs on the UK singles chart doing well in December.
As fans and chart watchers I do think people can wonder about chart peaks regardless of Britney's personal struggles. It's always fun to see a song by an act you like do well. This is a curious case where the stars could align and give her another hit so people are speculating.
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