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Post by Ling-Ling on Aug 20, 2022 18:06:18 GMT -5
Nobody is worried about BlackPink, lol. It’s number one right now on iTunes. That's nice, congrats to them. But again, nobody is worried about BlackPink, lol.
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Post by kimberly on Aug 20, 2022 18:09:32 GMT -5
I think I'm coming around on my opinion that this isn't a wise way for Britney to return to music/make her "comeback" (don't @ me saying it's not a comeback I'm using it in a literal sense).
For one, this does sound like something that will at least be a moderate hit, and do well on some radio formats. So from a quality perspective, I have faith.
But even from a marketing perspective, if this does well, it'll be huge for Britney, signaling she still has a place in the music landscape. and if it doesn't do well, it wasn't a Britney song to begin with, oh well. she's still getting to work with another legend and probably fulfill a dream, so... it's a win-win scenario either way.
I'm not looking for the leak. Looking forward to Thursday night when this is officially out!
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Post by Choco on Aug 20, 2022 18:22:07 GMT -5
I think I'm coming around on my opinion that this isn't a wise way for Britney to return to music/make her "comeback" (don't @ me saying it's not a comeback I'm using it in a literal sense). For one, this does sound like something that will at least be a moderate hit, and do well on some radio formats. So from a quality perspective, I have faith. But even from a marketing perspective, if this does well, it'll be huge for Britney, signaling she still has a place in the music landscape. and if it doesn't do well, it wasn't a Britney song to begin with, oh well. she's still getting to work with another legend and probably fulfill a dream, so... it's a win-win scenario either way. I'm not looking for the leak. Looking forward to Thursday night when this is officially out! Yeah, much like with Dua Lipa, Ed Sheeran or Charlie Puth when they worked with Elton. It's not a risk. If it flops like the Charlie track, he can still claim he worked with a legend. If it's a hit like Dua's song, it's a win. There's nothing for Britney to lose with this one.
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Post by Koochie on Aug 20, 2022 18:52:11 GMT -5
Agreed with all of the above.
Personally I don’t think Britney cares if it’s a hit or not and has established herself such that it won’t impact her legacy if it isn’t, but from a marketing standpoint this was a smart move. It’s a great way for her and her team to better understand if her resurgence in popularity extends to her musical career or stops at her personal affairs. The song has a few things going for it (namely that it’s good), but this will only be a hit if people care that her name is attached to it.
I’m more interested in what this does on streaming platforms rather than radio. There’s a non-zero chance that she’s positioned to attract a younger audience that other legacy acts haven’t been able to reach consistently.
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Post by degen on Aug 20, 2022 19:12:26 GMT -5
Agreed with all of the above. Personally I don’t think Britney cares if it’s a hit or not and has established herself such that it won’t impact her legacy if it isn’t, but from a marketing standpoint this was a smart move. It’s a great way for her and her team to better understand if her resurgence in popularity extends to her musical career or stops at her personal affairs. The song has a few things going for it (namely that it’s good), but this will only be a hit if people care that her name is attached to it. Personally I’m more interested in what this does on streaming platforms rather than radio. There’s a non-zero chance that she’s positioned to attract a younger audience that other legacy acts haven’t been able to reach consistently. The establishment will pretty much back this single as an event moment. It will get plenty of TV press and Radio play. But ultimately it will be up to streamers to make it a long winded hit. I’m not sure what Britney’s draw is with streaming considering they’ve seemed to have moved on from Lady Gaga and Katy Perry and Britney was a whole 10 years before they even came out. But there’s def a shot that this could be a hit with them. But also this can very well perform like how a typical Britney single performers, with a quick peak near the top and with minimal longevity. I can see this song debuting in the Top 10 and falling off, but then possibly returning if Radio makes it a hit.
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Post by skizzo on Aug 20, 2022 19:48:20 GMT -5
Is it just me, or has CHR been playing a lot more Britney lately, in the lead up to what could now be a big pop comeback for her? I know Toxic has been one of the top gold tracks across the board for a while, but I’ve also been hearing Baby One More Time and Womanizer a ton on KIIS lately.. plus Oops I Did It Again a bunch on my local station. It just seems like radio could be gearing up for something big Looking at the data from today Z100 played: Gimme More x2 Stronger KIIS played: Baby One More Time Y100 played: Oops! I Did It Again Womanizer Weird that none of them played Toxic though
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Post by upsidedown on Aug 20, 2022 20:12:05 GMT -5
There was curiosity for Britney in 2020, I mean hell Matches even launched with 750K streams its first day on Spotify globally, so very interested to see how this ends up (especially with placement on playlists very possible)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2022 20:36:03 GMT -5
I haven’t heard it yet! :) Looks like I’m one of the few.
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Post by Koochie on Aug 20, 2022 21:13:34 GMT -5
There was curiosity for Britney in 2020, I mean hell Matches even launched with 750K streams its first day on Spotify globally, so very interested to see how this ends up (especially with placement on playlists very possible) 750k is notable but it crashed and burned right after (which is fine by me because team con was using that s**t as a cash grab). This will absolutely pull more than that on release, but the question is whether or not it’ll have legs. I think a lot of people are going to be watching this one. Kind of funny that a random Elton John collab in a sea of others has turned into a prime time event for pop heads. Looking at the data from today Z100 played: Gimme More x2 Stronger I’ve always wondered who the Britney stan is that works there. By the grace of gays they will never let “Gimme More” die, and for that we owe them a great debt.
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Post by beachboi69 on Aug 21, 2022 5:34:24 GMT -5
The leak has to be a demo version. Why are both of the vocals layed on top of each other. It's kinda horrible radio wont play this.
Britney should have just released a solo single
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Post by upsidedown on Aug 21, 2022 10:13:56 GMT -5
There was curiosity for Britney in 2020, I mean hell Matches even launched with 750K streams its first day on Spotify globally, so very interested to see how this ends up (especially with placement on playlists very possible) 750k is notable but it crashed and burned right after (which is fine by me because team con was using that s**t as a cash grab). This will absolutely pull more than that on release, but the question is whether or not it’ll have legs. I think a lot of people are going to be watching this one. Kind of funny that a random Elton John collab in a sea of others has turned into a prime time event for pop heads. Looking at the data from today Z100 played: Gimme More x2 Stronger I’ve always wondered who the Britney stan is that works there. By the grace of gays they will never let “Gimme More” die, and for that we owe them a great debt. Honestly it's probably better that Universal is handling this release and not RCA. I have a lot more faith in them to see this out, longevity wise.
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Aug 21, 2022 10:37:56 GMT -5
Yeah, the next #FreeBritney movement needs to be to free her music career from RCA.
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Post by Koochie on Aug 21, 2022 11:25:53 GMT -5
Yeah, the next #FreeBritney movement needs to be to free her music career from RCA. Britney Jean fulfilled her contract with RCA, and I think Glory was released by extension. I don’t think she has any obligation to stay with them. Universal is where legacy acts go to die unless they put her under Republic. Warner is another option, but that depends on whether or not they’d take her.
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Post by Eqbk on Aug 21, 2022 13:18:47 GMT -5
Britney's contract with RCA was renewed around 2014. Glory was the first album released after the renewal. Not sure if the details of the contract ever came out though. To be fair, the Britney albums released under RCA had issues beyond them. The first studio released under RCA was Britney Jean, which had numerous issues that can't solely be blamed on the label. As for Glory, the main issues from that era were arguably more her old team's fault. In fact, RCA seemingly gave Britney way better treatment than many others on the label. She was allowed to hire A&R outside of RCA simply b/c she didn't like theirs, she received big budgets on her music videos, and the RCA president (or some other label executive) sent a letter out to radio stations personally vouching for Britney when "Make Me" started to stall on radio. What hurt that era the most was 1) the David LaChapelle video being pulled and being replaced with that awful Randee St. Nicholas video and 2) The time gap between the two singles. It was Britney's old team that caused the fallout with LaChapelle and the long gap was reportedly due to the label waiting on her old team to decide on the second single.
Anyways, very excited for this. I haven't heard the leak and don't plan to seek it out but am glad that it's mostly being well received. After all that's happened to her and what she's said, I wasn't sure if Britney would ever want to go near a recording studio again. I'm just glad that we're getting new Britney music in 2022 and that it's being done on her terms.
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Post by Koochie on Aug 21, 2022 13:46:18 GMT -5
Britney's contract with RCA was renewed around 2014. Glory was the first album released after the renewal. Not sure if the details of the contract ever came out though s**t, yeah, she renewed right after Britney Jean. There’s no info on how many albums she’s obligated to release (that I can find). I wonder though, is the contract still valid now that the conservatorship has dissolved? As I understand it, she had no legal rights to sign it at the time. My biggest issue with RCA is that they didn’t want to fund Britney Jean because they didn’t have faith in her. I believe it was Blood Orange that said the label pulled the plug on the writing camp for it. Kind of ridiculous considering Femme Fatale was a moderate success.
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Post by It's me, bitch. on Aug 21, 2022 16:54:54 GMT -5
Britney's contract with RCA was renewed around 2014. Glory was the first album released after the renewal. Not sure if the details of the contract ever came out though. To be fair, the Britney albums released under RCA had issues beyond them. The first studio released under RCA was Britney Jean, which had numerous issues that can't solely be blamed on the label. As for Glory, the main issues from that era were arguably more her old team's fault. In fact, RCA seemingly gave Britney way better treatment than many others on the label. She was allowed to hire A&R outside of RCA simply b/c she didn't like theirs, she received big budgets on her music videos, and the RCA president (or some other label executive) sent a letter out to radio stations personally vouching for Britney when "Make Me" started to stall on radio. What hurt that era the most was 1) the David LaChapelle video being pulled and being replaced with that awful Randee St. Nicholas video and 2) The time gap between the two singles. It was Britney's old team that caused the fallout with LaChapelle and the long gap was reportedly due to the label waiting on her old team to decide on the second single. Anyways, very excited for this. I haven't heard the leak and don't plan to seek it out but am glad that it's mostly being well received. After all that's happened to her and what she's said, I wasn't sure if Britney would ever want to go near a recording studio again. I'm just glad that we're getting new Britney music in 2022 and that it's being done on her terms.
I still can’t believe slumber party was picked as the second and final single.
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Post by kimberly on Aug 21, 2022 17:25:22 GMT -5
"Slumber Party" ft. Tinashe is a global smash hit #1 single in my household, idc what Billbored says 😤
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Post by Dylan :) on Aug 21, 2022 17:45:53 GMT -5
"Slumber Party" ft. Tinashe is a global smash hit #1 single in my household, idc what Billbored says 😤 Slumber Party deserved so, SO much better, and should have been the lead. It’s funny though how Make Me debuted at #17 on the Hot 10 and managed to get to #20 on CHR. I’m sure we thought at the time it was a flop for not reaching the top 10
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Post by Eqbk on Aug 21, 2022 19:17:34 GMT -5
Britney's contract with RCA was renewed around 2014. Glory was the first album released after the renewal. Not sure if the details of the contract ever came out though s**t, yeah, she renewed right after Britney Jean. There’s no info on how many albums she’s obligated to release (that I can find). I wonder though, is the contract still valid now that the conservatorship has dissolved? As I understand it, she had no legal rights to sign it at the time. There's no official source I could find either. Fans speculate that her contract is for 4 albums. Obviously it's just rumors, but this is the fan base that somehow got a hold of (and recently leaked) KFed's contract during the Circus Tour. If the rumors are true, she has 3 more studio albums left in her current contract. Not sure if there are legal grounds to nullify the contract but, imo, after all that's transpired the past few years, she's probably in a much better position than most to negotiate with the label what she wants.
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Post by It's me, bitch. on Aug 22, 2022 0:10:21 GMT -5
"Slumber Party" ft. Tinashe is a global smash hit #1 single in my household, idc what Billbored says 😤 Slumber Party deserved so, SO much better, and should have been the lead. It’s funny though how Make Me debuted at #17 on the Hot 10 and managed to get to #20 on CHR. I’m sure we thought at the time it was a flop for not reaching the top 10 #19 ;)
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Post by Koochie on Aug 22, 2022 0:44:48 GMT -5
s**t, yeah, she renewed right after Britney Jean. There’s no info on how many albums she’s obligated to release (that I can find). I wonder though, is the contract still valid now that the conservatorship has dissolved? As I understand it, she had no legal rights to sign it at the time. There's no official source I could find either. Fans speculate that her contract is for 4 albums. Obviously it's just rumors, but this is the fan base that somehow got a hold of (and recently leaked) KFed's contract during the Circus Tour. If the rumors are true, she has 3 more studio albums left in her current contract. Not sure if there are legal grounds to nullify the contract but, imo, after all that's transpired the past few years, she's probably in a much better position than most to negotiate with the label what she wants. RE: negotiations, it’s going to come down to dollars and cents. She’ll prob be able to pick and choose the singles and sound, but what matters is whether or not RCA is willing to put money behind the necessary producers or promotion. Not to sound overly pessimistic, but I highly doubt it. Ideally she’d be able to negotiate a way out of the contract or just nullify it on legal technicality, but RCA will almost definitely demand a buyout and I don’t think she cares enough to deal with the hassle. RIP the Republic dream.
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Post by upsidedown on Aug 22, 2022 8:26:03 GMT -5
It's really too bad that they failed Slumber Party (and Make Me) so badly. Both were top-notch pop quality and the video release ruined the momentum for Make Me (which got a nice boost out of the VMAs) and then waiting so long to release Slumber Party killed it before it could get started. At least we got arguably one of Britney's best videos out of it though.
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Post by upsidedown on Aug 22, 2022 16:16:53 GMT -5
If things go right, this could go pretty high on the Hot 100.
Super Freaky Girl debuted at #1 with only 20M streams, 89K sales, and <5M radio airplay.
If this happens to get TTH playlisting and a radio deal, things could get interesting. But it depends if the GP treats this as the true "Britney's back!" song or not. Will be very interesting.
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Post by upsidedown on Aug 23, 2022 9:34:50 GMT -5
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Aug 23, 2022 10:39:33 GMT -5
Slumber Party and Make Me were both great songs and I think if they had been on their game and if Britney had been able to fully promote (I mean, obviously there are good reasons why she couldn't!) they would have both been big hits.
Waiting for the final version to listen to this. Elton John has been surprisingly great in his collaborations with younger pop stars though lol. I'm excited.
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Post by It's me, bitch. on Aug 23, 2022 11:33:33 GMT -5
I was hoping for more individual vocals from only her.
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Post by leonagwen on Aug 23, 2022 14:43:59 GMT -5
I was hoping for more individual vocals from only her. It's a duet. Elton has to sing too.
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Post by Snowbeast on Aug 23, 2022 15:51:22 GMT -5
Sounds fire.
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Post by Juan Carlos on Aug 24, 2022 9:29:06 GMT -5
Looks like this is going to have a radio deal this Friday.
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