Billboard Hot 100: 08/20/2022

[dragonslair]

Aug 5, 2022 18:14:44 GMT -5 purp child said:

Aug 5, 2022 16:06:30 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

I think the problem may be that Drake is suffering from a bit of overexposure. Keep in mind, it hasn’t even been a year since CLB was released. While Drake was on Wait For U, which debuted at #1 in May and has remained one of the biggest hits of the year since then, the fact that his recent album and now this collaboration flopped may suggest that Drake could benefit from a break.

The song just isn't that good
"Drake over-exposure" was the phrase used right before VIEWS, right before he spent half of 2018 at #1, right before CLB sold 600k
Good music will always prevail

That is so not true.  There's a ton of artists who continued to put out just as good music as they were, but failed to chart after their peak.

[dragonslair]

I got bored of the linked video here, I gave up before the music even started, let alone hearing the sample of Stayin Alive. You'd think a music video would want to get to the music right away, but like whatever,

[dragonslair]

Aug 5, 2022 18:17:08 GMT -5 magik said:

Aug 5, 2022 6:34:56 GMT -5 gs said:

Staying Alive #72 on AM after 7 hours, definitely not enough for a top 10 debut unless it grows

Call me crazy and mean, but I'm anticipating a Drake flop, feature or no feature. I'm tired of him putting out mediocrity and it becoming a success because of his name.  I still don't know what DJ Khaled does.

Drake has to be getting perceived as old and their parents music by the kids today,  his years of being trendy, which is a huge factor in charting, are definitely dwindling.happens to em all.

[nathanalbright]

In the end, we all become what we hate, or our parents.

[Mayman]

Aug 5, 2022 18:14:44 GMT -5 purp child said:

Aug 5, 2022 16:06:30 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

I think the problem may be that Drake is suffering from a bit of overexposure. Keep in mind, it hasn’t even been a year since CLB was released. While Drake was on Wait For U, which debuted at #1 in May and has remained one of the biggest hits of the year since then, the fact that his recent album and now this collaboration flopped may suggest that Drake could benefit from a break.

The song just isn't that good
"Drake over-exposure" was the phrase used right before VIEWS, right before he spent half of 2018 at #1, right before CLB sold 600k
Good music will always prevail

This. People who say Drake is overexposed are the exact people who aren't within his fan base. The new song is just not that good.

[dragonslair]

Aug 5, 2022 18:57:31 GMT -5 Mayman said:

Aug 5, 2022 18:14:44 GMT -5 purp child said:

The song just isn't that good
"Drake over-exposure" was the phrase used right before VIEWS, right before he spent half of 2018 at #1, right before CLB sold 600k
Good music will always prevail

This. People who say Drake is overexposed are the exact people who aren't within his fan base. The new song is just not that good.

People leave fanbases and move on. After perceived bad music, perceived overexposure would be the next biggest reason why they do.

[Mayman]

Aug 5, 2022 19:12:12 GMT -5 dragonslair said:

Aug 5, 2022 18:57:31 GMT -5 Mayman said:

This. People who say Drake is overexposed are the exact people who aren't within his fan base. The new song is just not that good.

People leave fanbases and move on. After perceived bad music, perceived overexposure would be the next biggest reason why they do.

Okay well maybe Drake is overexposed for people who don't like him, but those people aren't going to be streaming his music on repeat. So it doesn't matter what those people think really.

[thegreatdivine]

Drake will be fine. A mediocre DJ Khaled collab flopping is just that — a mediocre DJ Khaled collab flopping. He should have a feature on Lil Baby's album later this month. We'll see how that performs.

[dragonslair]

Aug 5, 2022 19:13:55 GMT -5 Mayman said:

Aug 5, 2022 19:12:12 GMT -5 dragonslair said:

People leave fanbases and move on. After perceived bad music, perceived overexposure would be the next biggest reason why they do.

Okay well maybe Drake is overexposed for people who don't like him, but those people aren't going to be streaming his music on repeat. So it doesn't matter what those people think really.

I'm not talking about people who don't like him. I'm talking about people who did/do and decide to move on to different things.  I mean, like, it's the life cycle of every artist, or we'd still only be listening to 1950s acts,

BTW, while those dedicated fans play on repeat are important to an artist, it's usually getting the casual listener to play your music that means a big hit or not.  Especially with all the changes the Hot 100 has made over the last 3 or so years. They are really focusing on uniqueness of the listener rather than how much the stand can consume.

The Bee Gees being what started all this, is a great example.  After SNF was Spirits Havong Flown in 1979 that produced three #1s and was platinum album that peaked at #1.  But the followup  in 1981 peaked at #41.  Now this isn't a debate on if the album was good or not.  My point is that peaking at #41 shows people didn't even give it a chance.  People had just moved on from them. They didn't even try it out to know if it was good or not.  In a time without the internet and a million reviews st the fingertips, these types of drop offs for artists were regular and not because of the music but simply because it was time for something new.

the internet and social media has changed that a bit, allowing Members of a fanbase to feed off each other and maintain importance and excitement longer.

[dragonslair]

Aug 5, 2022 19:26:42 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Drake will be fine. A mediocre DJ Khaled collab flopping is just that — a mediocre DJ Khaled collab flopping. He should have a feature on Lil Baby's later this month. We'll see how that performs.

I don't think anyone is saying he's done today or tomorrow.

[drakefanovo]

Why would Drake take time off. He’s had 2 #1s this year and you all act like he’s putting up tyga numbers lol

[dragonslair]

Aug 5, 2022 20:25:06 GMT -5 drakefanovo said:

Why would Drake take time off. He’s had 2 #1s this year and you all act like he’s putting up tyga numbers lol

Is that all that matters, a #1?

[85la]

Aug 5, 2022 16:22:46 GMT -5 kimberly said:

This is actually pretty exciting, because if it manages to go #1 and this remix gets the majority of points, it will be Madonna's first #1 in a while, and raise her total to 13, tying her with Michael Jackson for fifth most number ones overall! And it will also mean Madonna will have had a #1 single in four different decades, which I think only Mariah has accomplished for solo artists! Unfortunately though I can't see this remix getting the majority of points, as the original will still probably be streamed the most and receive the most airplay.

I also like that new Material Gworrllll! track. It's not the best use of the sample, but I like the original Material Girl so much it's great just to hear any modern reworking of it!

[Mayman]

^ The Madonna remix is only available on Beyoncé's webstore, meaning it'll get no streams and most likely no airplay.

[nathanalbright]

You know how fans always have to hype up every remix of a song they like or want to succeed even if most of them end up being nothingburgers.

[kimberly]

Aug 5, 2022 21:58:35 GMT -5 Mayman said:

^ The Madonna remix is only available on Beyoncé's webstore, meaning it'll get no streams and most likely no airplay.

made available widely at midnight ET.

EDIT: I don't think there's any chance Madonna will be credited lmao just to be clear

[Enigma.]

Would be great if Madonna charted, but no way radio is going to touch the remix which basically only interpolates Vogue into the track. It's also 6 minutes long.

[fridayteenage]

if she can give madonna an artist credit for this, why didn't she do the same for big freedia?

[magik]

Aug 6, 2022 0:33:38 GMT -5 fridayteenage said:

if she can give madonna an artist credit for this, why didn't she do the same for big freedia?

Probably because Madonna is Madonna and won't let anyone squelch her from a credit. But Freedia should have been given a feature credit, considering how prominent she is on the record, regardless of the sample. Drake gave Kyla credit on "One Dance" for something similar. But it's all industry politics.

[kimberly]

Aug 6, 2022 0:33:38 GMT -5 fridayteenage said:

if she can give madonna an artist credit for this, why didn't she do the same for big freedia?

maybe Big Freedia didn't ask for it but Madonna requested credit to let her use "Vogue." or maybe because Madonna's song provides both instrumental and vocals for the remix, as opposed to Big Freedia's (just vocals). or maybe to be able to call it "The Queens Remix" while letting people know who the plural is referring to. or maybe because she's freaking Madonna?

it's not that deep y'all. Big Freedia is getting her paycheck and performing the song at her club appearances so she's not bothered. why should we be?

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Aug 5, 2022 14:39:40 GMT -5 kimberly said:

Aug 5, 2022 5:13:55 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Makes me wish Billboard could start a Global Chart for albums, it'd be a cool feat seeing a bunch of k-pop acts get recognized.

if I were to guess, the reason why they didn't start one when they started the Global 200 charts might be due to the variety of retailers and sales points for albums across the globe. to be able to measure album consumption, they would probably need to collaborate with national chart companies worldwide who might collect that data and even then, some territories would be completely missing. Billboard/Luminate probably can't really keep track of all record stores and supermarkets that sell albums etc.

Yeah I'd imagine it'd be hard without cooperation with various counters (although the Global 200 doesn't track all nations either, certain regional streaming services aren't counted)

[After Minutes]

Drake will lose the tops spot in the rap game if he keeps pushing out tracks like this. The CLB- and Scoprion-era superstardom isn't something that he can take for granted. He got to that level because of Views' and IYRTITL's success. They resonated with people massively, so everyone wanted to check in when he released Scorpion, and while that album wasn't as well received, it had a few solid hits, especially the singles, which kept people satisfied. Then came CLB, and that album's reception was similar to Scorpion. Most of it was safe and mediocre, but there still were a few hits that resonated with people (KT, NFITI, FT, CP). But with playing it this safe, people just found that he's become kind of stale and a little boring, hence the memes about his on Tiktok.

With H,N, which to his credit was much more experimental, his fans found that the songs that they liked were even more scarce than before, and the album's overall sound just wasn't appealling to them. Experimentation is what they wanted, sure, but this proved that Drake isn't necessarily any more interesting when he switches things up. The few good songs saved Scorpion and CLB, but with H,N that just wasn't the case. It's especially troubling given how soon it was released after CLB - not enough time has passed for his fans to forget the bad tracks off it, and the album was probably still in their semi-often rotation, so moving on to new material was even harder.

Drake's next album could be the real turning point. He's seemingly used up all the credit that people were willing to give him after the first half of his career after two safe albums that just weren't as good as his first few projects, two forgettable mixtapes and then this project, which was flamed. If Drake will lose the throne in the next few years then it'll be only due to his own creative decisions

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Is it that time of the month for Pulse to ask whether where Drake is falling off?

[shayonce]

US Apple Music Daily Chart Top 100, 8/05 Friday
1. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Free Dem 5's
2. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Umm Hmm
3. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - I Know
4. (-3) Bad Bunny & Chencho Corleone - Me Porto Bonito
5. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - F**k Da Industry
6. (-4) Future - WAIT FOR U (feat. Drake & Tems)
7. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Hold Your Own
8. DJ Khaled - STAYING ALIVE (feat. Drake & Lil Baby)
9. (-5) Drake - Jimmy Cooks (feat. 21 Savage)
10. (-7) Steve Lacy - Bad Habit

11. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Home Ain't Home (feat. Rod Wave)
12. (-5) Bad Bunny - Tití Me Preguntó
13. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Lost Soul Survivor
14. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Top Sound
15. (-9) Beyoncé - Break My Soul
16. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Kamikaze
17. (-12) Beyoncé - Alien Superstar
18. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - My Go To (feat. Kehlani)
19. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - 7 Days
20. (-12) Beyoncé - Cuff It

21. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Swerving
22. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Stay The Same
24. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Vette Motors
28. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Digital
36. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Slow Down
41. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Don’t Rate Me (feat. Quavo)
43. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Proof
50. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - The North Bleeding
51. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - 4KT Baby
52. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Loner Life
59. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Acclaimed Emotions
64. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Wagwan
65. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - I Hate YoungBoy
69. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - I Got The Bag
76. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Ghost
83. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Holy
88. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Nightfall
96. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Mr. Grim Reaper


26. (-17) Beyoncé - Church Girl
31. (-14) Nardo Wick - Dah Dah DahDah
38. (-17) Harry Styles - As It Was
42. (-18) Drake - Sticky
46. (-18) Luke Combs - The Kind of Love We Make
49. (-20) Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill (A Deal with God)
60. (-26) NAV & Lil Baby - Never Sleep (feat. Travis Scott)
61. (-20) Lizzo - About Damn Time
66. (-28) Beyoncé - Summer Renaissance
74. (-30) Joji - Glimpse of Us
80. (-27) OneRepublic - I Ain't Worried
Out (66) Rod Wave - Stone Rolling
Out (90) Megan Thee Stallion - Pressurelicious (feat. Future)

----------------------------------------------------------------------
YNBA Album has 30 tracks and 1 song called 'My Time' missed the top 100.
it's also not on top 200 real time, so maybe glitch? or late add to album?

[shayonce]

that song is not drake's release but just feature..
he still has 7 songs in AM Top 100 including features and 7 albums in Billboard 200, 5 inside top 100.
he's very much fine with so called overexposure.

[thegreatdivine]

Aug 6, 2022 4:27:11 GMT -5 After Minutes said:

Drake will lose the tops spot in the rap game if he keeps pushing out tracks like this. The CLB- and Scoprion-era superstardom isn't something that he can take for granted. He got to that level because of Views' and IYRTITL's success. They resonated with people massively, so everyone wanted to check in when he released Scorpion, and while that album wasn't as well received, it had a few solid hits, especially the singles, which kept people satisfied. Then came CLB, and that album's reception was similar to Scorpion. Most of it was safe and mediocre, but there still were a few hits that resonated with people (KT, NFITI, FT, CP). But with playing it this safe, people just found that he's become kind of stale and a little boring, hence the memes about his on Tiktok.

With H,N, which to his credit was much more experimental, his fans found that the songs that they liked were even more scarce than before, and the album's overall sound just wasn't appealling to them. Experimentation is what they wanted, sure, but this proved that Drake isn't necessarily any more interesting when he switches things up. The few good songs saved Scorpion and CLB, but with H,N that just wasn't the case. It's especially troubling given how soon it was released after CLB - not enough time has passed for his fans to forget the bad tracks off it, and the album was probably still in their semi-often rotation, so moving on to new material was even harder.

Drake's next album could be the real turning point. He's seemingly used up all the credit that people were willing to give him after the first half of his career after two safe albums that just weren't as good as his first few projects, two forgettable mixtapes and then this project, which was flamed. If Drake will lose the throne in the next few years then it'll be only due to his own creative decisions

Drake has been the most consumed rap artist in the US every year since 2014. He'll retain that position whether or not he drops new music, just off the strength of his back catalog. His discography from So Far Gone in 2009 till CLB in 2021 still gets consumed considerably. CLB didn't have any hits even half as big as the hits off Scorpion and he abandoned pushing any singles off the album the same month it dropped and yet, the lowest it's ever charted at so far is #21 on the Billboard 200 (it's currently charting even better than Scorpion did). It's almost been a year since the album dropped. People are clearly still listening to it.

Critics have never mattered when it comes to his success and don't let the viral tweets calling his music terrible deceive you. People tweet stuff like that to go viral and then spend all year listening to said music. Even with Honestly, Nevermind. It's several tweets/TikToks of people talking about the album growing on them/sharing their favorite songs off it, etc. People have been saying he makes terrible music since 2016 and he's still putting up the biggest numbers so enough people clearly still think his music is good enough to listen to and the numbers clearly reflect that.

I say all of that to say this (again): Drake will be fine. Honestly, Nevermind flopped commercially and he'll still be the most consumed artist this year in the US. That tells you all you need to know about the kind of artist he is. I'd worry less about established artists who have broken/set uncountable records, seen enormous amounts of success and who have nothing left to prove and worry more about newer artists who are meant to take over but are instead falling off less than 5 years after their breakout years.

[thegreatdivine]

Aug 6, 2022 5:00:04 GMT -5 shayonce said:

that song is not drake's release but just feature..
he still has 7 songs in AM Top 100 including features and 7 albums in Billboard 200, 5 inside top 100.
he's very much fine with so called overexposure.

This year, 13 years into his career, he has scored 4 top 10 hits (2 of them peaking at #1), a #1 album, averaging 150M+ US streams per week and is on pace to be the most streamed/consumed artist in the US for the gazillionth time but he's the one people are fake worried about lol.

[phieaglesfan712]

How many Youngboy tracks should we expect in the Top 25? Top 50?

[fridayteenage]

obviously no one has to do anything they don't want. i just think any artist that has prominent solo lines in a song should be a credited artist for it. Like Dido on Stan.

[king_billboard_100]

Aug 5, 2022 23:12:06 GMT -5 kimberly said:

Aug 5, 2022 21:58:35 GMT -5 Mayman said:

^ The Madonna remix is only available on Beyoncé's webstore, meaning it'll get no streams and most likely no airplay.

made available widely at midnight ET.

EDIT: I don't think there's any chance Madonna will be credited lmao just to be clear

Noooo this is not going to be a #1 for Madonna 🙅‍♂️