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Post by think pink. on Aug 22, 2022 14:52:06 GMT -5
"Bang Bang" and "Side to Side" being her 3rd and 4th biggest hits, yet rarely being brought up feels funny to me. Isn't that likely because she isn't really the most notable part of either song? It's not like either song is truly identified with her, so of course people wouldn't bring them up the way they would a song that has her on lead. I’m crying. “I give zero f**ks and I got zero chill in me” is the most iconic part of the song and sang the loudest in the crowd every time Ari performs it. Her verse in Bang Bang is also what elevates the song and brings it home. |
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Post by think pink. on Aug 22, 2022 14:54:11 GMT -5
Did billboard really fix the bundling issue? I think they need to go back to the drawing board.. Yes they did. Drop a tear. |
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Post by rimetm on Aug 22, 2022 15:04:44 GMT -5
Yeah, there’s nothing really to fix about this scenario as even with the Hail Mary of 4 more versions on Thursday, there were still about 50-60,000 customers combined across those 89,000 sales, a fair quantity. If anything, blame the market that nothing crushing on radio is likewise crushing the other metrics and thus could’ve stopped a viral song with a sales push.
For as much as I hated to see Girls Like You stomp a bunch of hype launches to #2, it had significant sales and streams at its peak that did indicate its health as a multimetric hit that As It Was has wavered on (especially in regards to sales).
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Post by korbel16 on Aug 22, 2022 15:05:35 GMT -5
I think I can safely make the argument that this is Nicki’s first *true* #1. It should have the industry-driven longevity that the Say So remix and TROLLZ lacked. That said, I’m not particularly happy that the producer she chose to work with again has another #1, even if it’s not all that surprising. wish it was anaconda still 😭 |
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Post by kimberly on Aug 22, 2022 15:06:23 GMT -5
Did billboard really fix the bundling issue? I think they need to go back to the drawing board.. Yes they did. Drop a tear. I'm—  |
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Post by rideordie on Aug 22, 2022 15:25:07 GMT -5
Did billboard really fix the bundling issue? I think they need to go back to the drawing board.. Yes they did. Drop a tear. What does this even mean… please be reminded that this is not ATRL. |
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 22, 2022 15:27:48 GMT -5
Yes they did. Drop a tear. What does this even mean… please be reminded that this is not ATRL. It means "cry about it." As in, Nicki did this without bundles, quit suggesting otherwise. |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Aug 22, 2022 15:38:27 GMT -5
Most weeks in the top 2
Stay 21 Old Town Road 19 As It Was 19
Most weeks in the top 3
Stay 23 Uptown Funk 21 Closer 21 Blinding Lights 21 Old Town Road 20 As It Was 20
As It Was is officially the first song in history to spend its first 20 weeks in the top 3. 1-2-1-1-2-2-2-1-1-1-1-2-1-1-1-2-2-3-2-2
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Post by kcdawg13 on Aug 22, 2022 15:41:42 GMT -5
Everyone loves As It Was a bit too much that it's killing Harry Styles other singles since radio can't figure out which one to spin, Late Night Talking is getting stuck at #3-4 on Pop radio because radio refuses to let it get a head of As It Was lol
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Post by platinumg on Aug 22, 2022 15:48:34 GMT -5
Did billboard really fix the bundling issue? I think they need to go back to the drawing board.. You cant be serious with this question. There’s no bundling or mass buying possible anymore. Didn’t you see BTS could only afford 42k with their comeback single and 66K with their recent collab. They’d usually do well over 150-200k… Nicki Minaj has always been able to sell, even before webstore singles were introduced she was still selling well over 20-30k pure per release. Imagine that with 4 versions to buy. That’s easily 20k times 4. BOOM 80k sales. It was reported that no mass purchases or fraudulent sales were detected. The limited edition a capella version and the Roman remix did the trick. That’s all it was. |
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Post by M5AGTS on Aug 22, 2022 15:56:43 GMT -5
Most weeks in the top 2
Stay 21 Old Town Road 19 As It Was 19
Most weeks in the top 3
Stay 23 Uptown Funk 21 Closer 21 Blinding Lights 21 Old Town Road 20 As It Was 20
As It Was is officially the first song in history to spend its first 20 weeks in the top 3. 1-2-1-1-2-2-2-1-1-1-1-2-1-1-1-2-2-3-2-2
I hope Stay can keep those records. I highly doubt it at this point tho. |
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Post by degen on Aug 22, 2022 16:05:02 GMT -5
Is anyone really surprised that “As It Was” isn’t going anywhere. I’ve known since its release that this would be a song that radio would play for a months on end in similar fashion to “Blinding Lights,” “Stay” and “Levitating.” Anyone who didn’t predict this needs to read the room better. There’s no point in complaining about it now.
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Post by dragonslair on Aug 22, 2022 16:11:45 GMT -5
Did billboard really fix the bundling issue? I think they need to go back to the drawing board.. You cant be serious with this question. There’s no bundling or mass buying possible anymore. Didn’t you see BTS could only afford 42k with their comeback single and 66K with their recent collab. They’d usually do well over 150-200k… Nicki Minaj has always been able to sell, even before webstore singles were introduced she was still selling well over 20-30k pure per release. Imagine that with 4 versions to buy. That’s easily 20k times 4. BOOM 80k sales. It was reported that no mass purchases or fraudulent sales were detected. The limited edition a capella version and the Roman remix did the trick. That’s all it was. That's still a problem (multiple version buying) Billbiard weds to fix, and causes a non accurate portrayal of popularity in the Hot 100. |
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Post by dragonslair on Aug 22, 2022 16:16:11 GMT -5
Is anyone really surprised that “As It Was” isn’t going anywhere. I’ve known since its release that this would be a song that radio would play for a months on end in similar fashion to “Blinding Lights,” “Stay” and “Levitating.” Anyone who didn’t predict this needs to read the room better. There’s no point in complaining about it now. The song was #6 on streaming songs last week. Not sure why radio holding on is constantly brought up. |
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Post by rideordie on Aug 22, 2022 16:19:57 GMT -5
Y’all can’t twist this 50 different ways lol. That song was mass purchased to no.1 similar to trollz and every BTS song.
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Post by M5AGTS on Aug 22, 2022 16:22:40 GMT -5
Is anyone really surprised that “As It Was” isn’t going anywhere. I’ve known since its release that this would be a song that radio would play for a months on end in similar fashion to “Blinding Lights,” “Stay” and “Levitating.” Anyone who didn’t predict this needs to read the room better. There’s no point in complaining about it now. The song was #6 on streaming songs last week. Not sure why radio holding on is constantly brought up. Agreed. I hate it when people are like "The radio is holding onto ------- for way too long. Nobody cares about it anymore." when the song is still huge on streaming. It happened to Heat Waves and now it's happening to this. |
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Post by M5AGTS on Aug 22, 2022 16:23:21 GMT -5
Y’all can’t twist this 50 different ways lol. That song was mass purchased to no.1 similar to trollz and every BTS song. No. Just no. |
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Post by Groovy on Aug 22, 2022 16:26:06 GMT -5
Most weeks in the top 2
Stay 21 Old Town Road 19 As It Was 19
Most weeks in the top 3
Stay 23 Uptown Funk 21 Closer 21 Blinding Lights 21 Old Town Road 20 As It Was 20
As It Was is officially the first song in history to spend its first 20 weeks in the top 3. 1-2-1-1-2-2-2-1-1-1-1-2-1-1-1-2-2-3-2-2
You love to see it. |
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Post by degen on Aug 22, 2022 16:27:04 GMT -5
The song was #6 on streaming songs last week. Not sure why radio holding on is constantly brought up. Agreed. I hate it when people are like "The radio is holding onto ------- for way too long. Nobody cares about it anymore." when the song is still huge on streaming. It happened to Heat Waves and now it's happening to this. Well…and the same thing with “Stay,” “Blinding Lights” and “Levitating.” They were all still in the top 10 streaming months after their radio peak. So clearly people enjoy these songs and it’s not just radio overplaying them. |
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Post by dragonslair on Aug 22, 2022 16:29:19 GMT -5
That's still a problem (multiple version buying) Billbiard weds to fix, and causes a non accurate portrayal of popularity in the Hot 100. SFG is literally #1 on streaming too My comment was not about any particular song. It also has nothing to do with any song charting position. It's been a problem for some time. |
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Post by dragonslair on Aug 22, 2022 16:32:43 GMT -5
Y’all can’t twist this 50 different ways lol. That song was mass purchased to no.1 similar to trollz and every BTS song. No. Just no. While there are a few different nuances, multiple versions was definitely a huge factor in BTS Hot 100 chart success. As the practice has for a number of other songs, |
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Post by Groovy on Aug 22, 2022 16:42:00 GMT -5
Since we’re on the topic of As It Was, I think at this point, it wouldn’t be surprising if it topped the streaming on the YE, it’s been consistent with no signs of slowing down.
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Post by rainygirl on Aug 22, 2022 16:45:17 GMT -5
While there are a few different nuances, multiple versions was definitely a huge factor in BTS Hot 100 chart success. As the practice has for a number of other songs, as long as it’s permissible and accepted by Billboard , we can’t blame the artists. I think actually most artists should release numerous versions of their singles . I don’t see the harm as long as it’s allowed by the rules |
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Post by Taylor. on Aug 22, 2022 16:45:48 GMT -5
Mass buying obviously played a role to a degree but that's true of any #1 debut from an artist with a rabid fan base. She dropped multiple editions, sure, but most anyone would have done the same if #1 was within reach. Can't fault her for playing the game, and at least this song is genuinely connecting with the general public unlike most of her previous close calls.
I don't love the song but she was long overdue for a solo #1.
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Post by rainygirl on Aug 22, 2022 16:50:21 GMT -5
Mass buying obviously played a role to a degree but that's true of any #1 debut from an artist with a rabid fan base. She dropped multiple editions, sure, but most anyone would have done the same if #1 was within reach. Can't fault her for playing the game, and at least this song is genuinely connecting with the general public unlike most of her previous close calls. I don't love the song but she was long overdue for a solo #1. I agree . Any artist within reach of a number 1 should take advantage and release as many versions as they can |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 22, 2022 16:51:00 GMT -5
I’ve heard “As It Was” maybe 15 times in my life and I can still enjoy it if I happened to hear it somewhere. things are splendid! 😊
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Post by NC59 on Aug 22, 2022 16:58:52 GMT -5
I am not surprised that As It Was is having great longevity. Radio does not always cause a song to have longevity. Streaming can help songs with less radio support late into their charts runs, especially if there is not enough competition. I am mainly talking about when Good 4 U and Industry Baby had longevity well into 2022. I know that Spotify is just one streaming service and those two songs have always been overshadowed by Heat Waves and Stay on the topic of songs with great longevity this year but my point is that streaming can help songs to have longer chart runs, not just radio.
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Post by dragonslair on Aug 22, 2022 17:13:03 GMT -5
Mass buying obviously played a role to a degree but that's true of any #1 debut from an artist with a rabid fan base. She dropped multiple editions, sure, but most anyone would have done the same if #1 was within reach. Can't fault her for playing the game, and at least this song is genuinely connecting with the general public unlike most of her previous close calls. I don't love the song but she was long overdue for a solo #1. One can still want the rules changed though can't they? And it not take away or say anything about any particular artist using it to their advantage? |
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Post by ontopofthis on Aug 22, 2022 17:13:38 GMT -5
Nicki Minaj’s song is also number one on streaming songs. It is not a BTS situation. Airplay just has way too much weight. They are acting as if it is the 90s with people waiting on the airwaves to play a song. It is so outrageous
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Post by fridayteenage on Aug 22, 2022 17:14:58 GMT -5
I don't love the song but she was long overdue for a solo #1. solo-ish. it's basically a mashup collab with criminal rick james. |
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