Billboard Hot 100: 09/24/2022

[jenglisbe]

Sept 19, 2022 17:12:04 GMT -5 nathanalbright said:

This is your reminder that songs are not competing for chart placement against the hits of last year or last decade but instead with the other songs every week.

Of course they aren’t, but it’s still interesting to look at the comparisons. It seems pretty clear we are in a drought time right now as far as new music that is exciting people. It means *something* that it takes a lot less chart points to be #1/top 5 now than a year ago.

[areyoureadytojump]

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Notable Gains:
#31. David Guetta and Bebe Rexha - I'm Good (Blue) (+15)
#42. Hitkidd and Glorilla - F.N.F. (Let's Go) (+22)
#45. d4vd - Romantic Homicide (+32)
#67. Lizzo - 2 Be Loved (Am I Ready) (+11)
#71. Jackson Dean - Don't Come Lookin' (+17)

Notable Losses:
#59. Nardo Wick - Dah Dah DahDah (-10)
#64. Lil Baby - Detox (-39)
#81. Justin Moore - With A Woman You Love (-22)
#83. DJ Khaled feat. Rick Ross, Lil Wayne, Jay-Z, John Legend, and Fridayy - GOD DID (-40)
#84. Drake - Sticky (-15)
#91. Lil Tjay - Beat the Odds (-23)
#93. Bailey Zimmerman - Where It Ends (-14)
#96. Rod Wave - Alone (-16)

Re-entries:
#76. NAV, Travis Scott, and Lil Baby - Never Sleep
#85. Beyoncé - CUFF IT
#99. HARDY feat. Lainey Wilson - wait in the truck

Notable Dropouts:
Shivers (52 weeks)
Numb Little Bug (32 weeks)
PUFFIN ON ZOOTIEZ (19 weeks)
HOTEL LOBBY (Unc and Phew) (15 weeks)
Bad Decisions (5 weeks)
BZRP Music Sessions Vol. 52 (5 weeks)

Biggest Gain in Sales: Super Freaky Girl
Biggest Gain in Airplay: Vegas
Biggest Gain in Streaming: Romantic Homicide

Gained in Points:
#2. Steve Lacy - Bad Habit (=)
#3. Nicki Minaj - Super Freaky Girl (+4)
#5. Post Malone feat. Doja Cat - I Like You (A Happier Song) (+1) *new peak*
#6. Morgan Wallen - You Proof (+4)
#15. Doja Cat - Vegas (+5) *new peak*
#16. Morgan Wallen - Wasted On You (+1)
#18. Cole Swindell - She Had Me At Head Carolina (+1)
#20. Drake feat. 21 Savage - Jimmy Cooks (+1)
#24. Tyler Hubbard - 5 Foot 9 (=)
#25. Zach Bryan - Something in the Orange (+7) *new peak*
#32. Lil Baby - In A Minute (+3)
#37. Jelly Roll - Son Of A Sinner (+2) *new peak*
#39. Bailey Zimmerman - Fall in Love (+2)
#40. Sia - Unstoppable (+5) *new peak*
#47. Imagine Dragones - Bones (+1) *new peak*
#49. The Weeknd - Die For You (+3)
#50. Jax - Victoria's Secret (=)
#51. Halsey - So Good (+7) *new peak*
#52. Tems - Free Mind (+4) *new peak*
#53. KAROL G x Maldy - GATÚBELA (-2)
#54. Burna Boy - Last Last (-1)
#55. Mitchell Tenpenny - Truth About You (-1)
#56. Ingrid Andress with Sam Hunt - Wishful Drinking (+5)
#69. Stephen Sanchez - Until I Found You (+6)
#72. Bad Bunny - Neverita (+9)
#75. Brent Faiyaz - ALL MINE (+7)
#78. Jordan Davis - What My World Spins Around (+6) *new peak*
#80. Thomas Rhett feat. Riley Green - Half of Me (+5) *new peak*
#86. Manuel Turizo - La Bachata (=)
#87. Harry Styles - Music for a Sushi Restaurant (=)
#89. Luke Bryan - Country On (+8)
#92. Rema and Selena Gomez - Calm Down (-1)
#94. Steve Lacy - Static (+4) *new peak*
#97. Rosa Linn - SNAP (-4)

[dremolus - solarpunk]

BUBBLING UNDER
#1. Steve Lacy - Dark Red (DEBUT)
#2. Zach Bryan - Oklahoma Smoke Show (-1)
#3. Kane Brown - Grand (+13)
#4. Yeat - Out thë way (DEBUT)
#5. NAV and Don Toliver feat. Future - One Time (DEBUT)
#6. BRELAND - For What It's Worth (DEBUT)
#7. NAV and Lil Uzi Vert - Dead Shot (DEBUT)
#8. Ice Spice - Munch (Feelin' U) (-3)
#9. Hailey Whitters - Everything She Ain't (DEBUT)
#10. Lewis Capaldi - Forget Me (DEBUT)
#11. Little Big Town - Hell Yeah (DEBUT)
#12. AJR - World's Smallest Violin (-9)
#13. Cafuné - Tek It (-6)
#14. Omar Apollo - Evergreen (DEBUT)
#15. Bryson Tiller and Diddy - Gotta Move On (-9)
#16. Rauw Alejandro, Lyanno, and Brray - LOKERA (+4)
#17. Carly Pearce - What He Didn't Do (-3)
#18. Chris Stapleton - Joy Of My Life (-9)
#19. Tory Lanez - The Color Violet (DEBUT)
#20. Jimmie Allen - Down Home (-7)
#21. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Dangerous Love (DEBUT)
#22. Finnese2Tymes - Back End (-12)
#23. NAV and Gunna - Playa
#24. Glorilla - Blessed (-16)
#25. Old Dominion - No Hard Feelings (-23)

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Big story is that Billboard is now more lenient in regards to songs' age and their recurrency status, hence why Under the Influence, Mary On A Cross, and Freestyle (all songs 2 years old or older) debuted

[joshtheking]

So Good reaching a new peak hell yes!

[After Minutes]

Sept 20, 2022 8:57:48 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Sept 19, 2022 17:12:04 GMT -5 nathanalbright said:

This is your reminder that songs are not competing for chart placement against the hits of last year or last decade but instead with the other songs every week.

Of course they aren’t, but it’s still interesting to look at the comparisons. It seems pretty clear we are in a drought time right now as far as new music that is exciting people. It means *something* that it takes a lot less chart points to be #1/top 5 now than a year ago.

I don't necessarily agree. There are a lot of new hits out now, just not massive ones

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

Sept 20, 2022 9:12:08 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Big story is that Billboard is now more lenient in regards to songs' age and their recurrency status, hence why Under the Influence, Mary On A Cross, and Freestyle (all songs 2 years old or older) debuted

I agree on the latter two. They were less lenient towards Under the Influence. It would probably have debuted in the Hot 100 last week if it had been allowed to debut under the top 50 last week.

[king_billboard_100]

Sept 20, 2022 9:09:30 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

BUBBLING UNDER
#1. Steve Lacy - Dark Red (DEBUT)
#2. Zach Bryan - Oklahoma Smoke Show (-1)
#3. Kane Brown - Grand (+13)
#4. Yeat - Out thë way (DEBUT)
#5. NAV and Don Toliver feat. Future - One Time (DEBUT)
#6. BRELAND - For What It's Worth (DEBUT)
#7. NAV and Lil Uzi Vert - Dead Shot (DEBUT)
#8. Ice Spice - Munch (Feelin' U) (-3)
#9. Hailey Whitters - Everything She Ain't (DEBUT)
#10. Lewis Capaldi - Forget Me (DEBUT)
#11. Little Big Town - Hell Yeah (DEBUT)
#12. AJR - World's Smallest Violin (-9)
#13. Cafuné - Tek It (-6)
#14. Omar Apollo - Evergreen (DEBUT)
#15. Bryson Tiller and Diddy - Gotta Move On (-9)
#16. Rauw Alejandro, Lyanno, and Brray - LOKERA (+4)
#17. Carly Pearce - What He Didn't Do (-3)
#18. Chris Stapleton - Joy Of My Life (-9)
#19. Tory Lanez - The Color Violet (DEBUT)
#20. Jimmie Allen - Down Home (-7)
#21. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Dangerous Love (DEBUT)
#22. Finnese2Tymes - Back End (-12)
#23. NAV and Gunna - Playa
#24. Glorilla - Blessed (-16)
#25. Old Dominion - No Hard Feelings (-23)

How’s that Dark Red didnt debut earlier?

[big2000]

Static debuted last week, but Dark Red has not yet.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Static has streams on AM, while Dark Red does not.

As for why Dark Red didn't debut earlier, as I said: it seems Billboard lifted the recurrency rule for old songs that've never charted

[kindofbiased]

Billboard adjusting their recurrency rules is one of the smartest decisions they've made in a while. People are listening to old songs and it's great that the charts are gonna be reflecting that better, especially for the songs that were being held back by recurrency despite never even charting before

[Groovy]

Hopefully Billboard gets rid of recurrency rules all together and see how it works.

[M5AGTS]

Sept 20, 2022 15:06:58 GMT -5 Groovy said:

Hopefully Billboard gets rid of recurrency rules all together and see how it works.

Aw HEEEEELL no. That means that Sunflower and Perfect will be hits in 2023, and it also means that Levitating and Save Your Tears will be hits in '23 '24 '25 '26, and probably '27 too. Also that favors Christmas music.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^Agreed. Otherwise, the Hot 100 might end having two songs such as Mr. Brightside and Someone You Loved which could be charting over 3 years like they currently are in the UK singles chart.

[Angel]

Sept 20, 2022 15:06:58 GMT -5 Groovy said:

Hopefully Billboard gets rid of recurrency rules all together and see how it works.

Honestly I support it. If a song is still charting ten years later then so be it. The album chart doesn’t have recurrency rules and albums tend to have a longer life than singles. Artificially removing songs doesn’t make them not popular anymore.

[Groovy]

Sept 20, 2022 15:20:39 GMT -5 M5AGTS said:

Sept 20, 2022 15:06:58 GMT -5 Groovy said:

Hopefully Billboard gets rid of recurrency rules all together and see how it works.

Aw HEEEEELL no. That means that Sunflower and Perfect will be hits in 2023, and it also means that Levitating and Save Your Tears will be hits in '23 '24 '25 '26, and probably '27 too. Also that favors Christmas music.

Hey, if it's one of the 100 most popular songs then I'm for it. 

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

[Gary]

The album chart had recurrency rules for almost 20 years but changed it in 2009 in response to Michael Jackson's 'Number Ones' being the best selling album in the country for 6 weeks but unable to chart because it was a 2003 release and thus ineligible to chart

[jenglisbe]

Sept 20, 2022 15:31:19 GMT -5 Angel said:

Sept 20, 2022 15:06:58 GMT -5 Groovy said:

Hopefully Billboard gets rid of recurrency rules all together and see how it works.

Honestly I support it. If a song is still charting ten years later then so be it. The album chart doesn’t have recurrency rules and albums tend to have a longer life than singles. Artificially removing songs doesn’t make them not popular anymore.

As has been said a lot, it will depend what record labels and the industry want. If labels decide they want older songs charting, Billboard will accommodate.

MJ’s album being #1 but not was a factor in the rule change, but I think another aspect was declining sales. Allowing older albums to keep charting makes sales look less worse. Imagine if recurrent rules were in place for the Billboard 200; what would the SPS figures be for albums at like #80, much less #200. Ouch.

[kimberly]

Sept 20, 2022 15:32:43 GMT -5 Groovy said:

Sept 20, 2022 15:20:39 GMT -5 M5AGTS said:

Aw HEEEEELL no. That means that Sunflower and Perfect will be hits in 2023, and it also means that Levitating and Save Your Tears will be hits in '23 '24 '25 '26, and probably '27 too. Also that favors Christmas music.

Hey, if it's one of the 100 most popular songs then I'm for it. 

it goes back to the philosophical discussion about what Billboard claims the chart is for. 4 year-old songs that stream well enough to place in the lower third of the chart or songs radio stations can't seem to get enough of week after week aren't so "Hot" imo.

I think Global 200 does a good job of capturing those songs. no need to clutter the Hot 100 with more Ed Sheeran and Post Malone when we can have new songs by smaller artists on the chart.

[nathanalbright]

Given the tendency for radio and streaming to hold on to songs for a long time, I think that there is still a place for recurrency in allowing newer songs and newer artists to chart. It is nice to see that Billboard is more flexible in how it enforces those recurrency rules to deal with situations where an older song finds new and current life as a hit, though.

[artistry]

I am happy about Sia's Unstoppable reaching the top 40. Also so proud of Glorilla's F.N.F. reaching a new peak. Hopefully, it enters top 40 next week. I am also encouraged about the growth I see for Until I Found You. It is rising in radio airplay.

[pnobelysk]

Will this new rule change effect any Christmas songs? Like songs that would have normally charted in the second half of the chart in previous years will they chart this year?

[Envoirment]

Sept 20, 2022 9:09:06 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Notable Gains:
#31. David Guetta and Bebe Rexha - I'm Good (Blue) (+15)
#67. Lizzo - 2 Be Loved (Am I Ready) (+11)

Re-entries:

#85. Beyoncé - CUFF IT

Gained in Points:

#5. Post Malone feat. Doja Cat - I Like You (A Happier Song) (+1) *new peak*
#15. Doja Cat - Vegas (+5) *new peak*
#40. Sia - Unstoppable (+5) *new peak*
#47. Imagine Dragones - Bones (+1) *new peak*
#49. The Weeknd - Die For You (+3)
#51. Halsey - So Good (+7) *new peak*

Yes to all of the above.

I hope Halsey can keep climbing slowly but surely and manage a top 40 peak at some point. Hoping Sia can manage top 20 at some point too.

[lazer]

I wonder how the new rule will affect smaller artists trying to reach the Hot 100.

[85la]

Sept 20, 2022 16:26:48 GMT -5 kimberly said:

Sept 20, 2022 15:32:43 GMT -5 Groovy said:

Hey, if it's one of the 100 most popular songs then I'm for it. 

it goes back to the philosophical discussion about what Billboard claims the chart is for. 4 year-old songs that stream well enough to place in the lower third of the chart or songs radio stations can't seem to get enough of week after week aren't so "Hot" imo.

I think Global 200 does a good job of capturing those songs. no need to clutter the Hot 100 with more Ed Sheeran and Post Malone when we can have new songs by smaller artists on the chart.

This exactly. The purpose of the chart is right in its name, the Hot 100 - it's supposed to represent generally the 100 most popular songs in the country, but with an emphasis on what is the hottest and newest.

And jenglisbe in response to your consideration of whether a strict top 100 songs with no recurrency rules would ever get record label and industry support, I don't think it ever would for said reason - it seems that they are always gonna want to place a priority on the hottest, newest crop of songs they are constantly churning out and promoting. Why let already proven hits that are well past their shelf life continue to clog up the chart for possibly years at a time and take space away from newer songs? Removing recurrency rules would also be a bad business decision for Billboard, because it would be awfully stale and boring af to look at the same list of songs for like two years straight - their traffic would go way down.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

[nathanalbright]

Alrighty then.