Billboard Hot 100: 11/19/2022

[chartfreak]

Could Aaron Carter have anything debut? I have no idea about his popularity, but given that it would be almost a full week of tracking, just wondering.

[jasper0102]

Nov 5, 2022 15:58:20 GMT -5 Music Fan said:

Nov 5, 2022 15:52:07 GMT -5 Music Fan said:

As of the Hot 100 dated Nov. 5, this is oldest song on the entire chart with 50 weeks on (currently song #29). The second longest song on the chart is 20 weeks younger... "As It Was" by Harry Styles (currently song #16).

Figured I'd quote myself and post this here as well.  I was referring to "Wasted on You."  It has surprised me with is pop airplay.  I initially wasn't expecting it to do much there after it was done on Country, but it's currently #20 there and gained 107 spins on today's update. So, the song is not dying, yet.  It's also still top 50 on streaming.  How much more do we think it'll last? 60 weeks total?

Given the Christmas season is coming, and I doubt it can pull a Bad Habits (though that depends on the second-week losses of Her Loss), I think this is gonna be it’s last week. Granted, that’s not counting on whether it can come back after Christmas, and if it can, maybe? 

[Az Paynter]

Nov 5, 2022 20:36:23 GMT -5 chartfreak said:

Could Aaron Carter have anything debut? I have no idea about his popularity, but given that it would be almost a full week of tracking, just wondering.

Aaron was never enough of a thing to have that kind of pull on the charts. If anything at all, maybe his cover of 'I Want Candy'? I presume that would be what he's best known for in music. But I wouldn't hold my breath for anything.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^I would expect Lift Me Up to have a pretty steep positional drop this week in the Streaming Songs chart. Probably among the largest second week drops for a song that has been actually released as a single.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Nov 5, 2022 11:45:35 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Nov 4, 2022 23:46:15 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

HER LOSS ON AM AFTER 24 HOURS
1(=) Rich Flex
2(=) Major Distribution
3(=) On BS
4(+1) Spin Bout U
5(-1) BackOutsideBoyz
6(=) Privileged Rappers
7(+2) Circo Loco
8(=) Hours in Silence
9(-2) Pussy & Millions
10(+3) Broke Boys
11(=) Treacherous Twins
12(=) Middle of the Ocean
13(+4) Jumbotron s**t Poppin 
14(+2) More M's
15(-1) I Guess It's Fuck Me
16(-1) 3AM on Glenwood
52(+24) Rich Flex (clean)
93(DEBUT) Major Distribution (clean)

HER LOSS ON AM AFTER 36 HOURS
1(=) Rich Flex
2(=) Major Distribution
3(=) On BS
4(=) Spin Bout U
5(=) BackOutsideBoyz
6(=) Privileged Rappers
7(=) Circo Loco
8(+1) Pussy & Millions
9(-1) Hours in Silence
10(=) Broke Boys
11(+1) Middle of the Ocean
12(-1) Treacherous Twins
13(=) Jumbotron Shit Poppin
14(=) More M's
15(=) I Guess It's Fuck Me
16(=) 3AM on Glenwood
58(-6) Rich Flex (clean)

HER LOSS ON AM AFTER 50 HOURS
1(=) Rich Flex
2(=) Major Distribution
3(=) On BS
4(=) Spin Bout U
5(=) BackOutsideBoyz
6(=) Privileged Rappers
7(=) Circo Loco
8(=) Pussy & Millions
9(=) Hours in Silence
10(=) Broke Boys
11(+1) Treacherous Twins
12(-1) Middle of the Ocean
13(=) Jumbotron Shit Poppin
14(=) More M's
15(=) I Guess It's Fuck Me
16(=) 3AM on Glenwood

[Choco]

Nov 5, 2022 20:36:23 GMT -5 chartfreak said:

Could Aaron Carter have anything debut? I have no idea about his popularity, but given that it would be almost a full week of tracking, just wondering.

Nah. He never really made much of a chart impact. The hype was always bigger than the actual sales.

RIP tho. Gone too young and had been clearly battling issues for a while.

[avavago]

Hello, relatively new chart watcher here. Should we expect slightly lower drops on US Spotify this Sunday because of Daylight saving time? Is it just treated like a 25 hour day or something else? Thanks.

[king_billboard_100]

Safe to say Rich Flex will debut at #1?

[firefox]

This Drake and 21 Savage thread is boring af. 😩

[kierz7]

Nov 6, 2022 8:17:32 GMT -5 firefox said:

This Drake and 21 Savage thread is boring af. 😩

LOL. It might pick closer to the time of the early predictions/chart week.

The album is “good”, however I feel as though the ‘MTSxLyric’ controversy if the big talking point/discussion at the moment though. The fact that people in the industry have now inserted themselves into (with some dragging/calling Drake out) is interesting enough.

Gotta love Twitter. The site is full of maniacs.

[mms82]

What’s MTSxLyric?

[Enigma.]

Rich Flex lost 2.1 million on Spotify (3.29M)

[After Minutes]

I'd argue that the controversy might actually help make Circo Loco become the big hit off the album. It fits in with current trends as a sample-driven track and is also the best song on the project so that helps massively

[fridayteenage]

the point of the misogyny was to get attention so.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Nov 6, 2022 1:06:01 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Nov 5, 2022 11:45:35 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

HER LOSS ON AM AFTER 36 HOURS
1(=) Rich Flex
2(=) Major Distribution
3(=) On BS
4(=) Spin Bout U
5(=) BackOutsideBoyz
6(=) Privileged Rappers
7(=) Circo Loco
8(+1) Pussy & Millions
9(-1) Hours in Silence
10(=) Broke Boys
11(+1) Middle of the Ocean
12(-1) Treacherous Twins
13(=) Jumbotron Shit Poppin
14(=) More M's
15(=) I Guess It's Fuck Me
16(=) 3AM on Glenwood
58(-6) Rich Flex (clean)

HER LOSS ON AM AFTER 50 HOURS
1(=) Rich Flex
2(=) Major Distribution
3(=) On BS
4(=) Spin Bout U
5(=) BackOutsideBoyz
6(=) Privileged Rappers
7(=) Circo Loco
8(=) Pussy & Millions
9(=) Hours in Silence
10(=) Broke Boys
11(+1) Treacherous Twins
12(-1) Middle of the Ocean
13(=) Jumbotron Shit Poppin
14(=) More M's
15(=) I Guess It's Fuck Me
16(=) 3AM on Glenwood

HER LOSS ON AM AFTER 60 HOURS
1(=) Rich Flex
2(=) Major Distribution
3(=) On BS
4(=) Spin Bout U
5(=) BackOutsideBoyz
6(=) Privileged Rappers
7(=) Circo Loco
8(=) Pussy & Millions
9(=) Hours in Silence
10(=) Broke Boys
11(=) Treacherous Twins
12(=) Middle of the Ocean
13(=) Jumbotron Shit Poppin
14(=) More M's
15(=) I Guess It's Fuck Me
16(=) 3AM on Glenwood

[thegreatdivine]

Nov 6, 2022 10:21:47 GMT -5 After Minutes said:

I'd argue that the controversy might actually help make Circo Loco become the big hit off the album. It fits in with current trends as a sample-driven track and is also the best song on the project so that helps massively

Circo Loco isn't the best song on the project lol.

[fridayteenage]

Global Spotify, artists with most songs at 14+ days, 1st credit:
drake 4
bieber 4
post 3
ed 3
taylor 3

[thegreatdivine]

Drake has always been misogynistic in his music, just like every other male rapper in existence lmao. Perhaps most of you have only listened to his #1 hits but this isn't news to anybody who has actually listened to an extensive amount of Drake songs.

Also, that line was 1000% not about Megan Thee Stallion. But people on Twitter love being fake mad while ignoring facts so it's whatever.

I'm more interested in Her Loss holding better than expected in it's second day. It had a lower drop percentage-wise on than CLB, Honestly, Nevermind & even Midnights on Spotify US:

Honestly, Nevermind: 32,274,030 (Day 1) to 16,623,542 (Day 2) | -48.4%
Certified Lover Boy: 80,441,515 (Day 1) to 45,495,488 (Day 2) | -43.4%
Midnights: 88,092,162 (Day 1) to 51,001,737 (Day 2) | 42.1%
Her Loss: 51,141,403 - 31,848,615 | -37.7%

[Choco]

Even if you buy into the delusion that it wasn't a line against Megan, somebody on that room 100% pointed out that it could be interpreted as such and the verse stayed the same.

It's clout chasing and unwarranted. Meg is the most unproblematic of the major female rappers right now. Let her do her thing in peace.

Much like Girls like Girls or whatever it was called, the controversy has been mostly deemed corny and dumb and the song will not be one of the big hits of the project.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Nov 6, 2022 12:26:41 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Drake has always been misogynistic in his music, just like every other male rapper in existence lmao. Perhaps most of you have only listened to his #1 hits but this isn't news to anybody who has actually listened to an extensive amount of Drake songs.

Also, that line was 1000% not about Megan Thee Stallion. But people on Twitter love being fake mad while ignoring facts so it's whatever.

I'm more interested in Her Loss holding better than expected in it's second day. It had a lower drop percentage-wise on than CLB, Honestly, Nevermind & even Midnights on Spotify US:

Honestly, Nevermind: 32,274,030 (Day 1) to 16,623,542 (Day 2) | -48.4%
Certified Lover Boy: 80,441,515 (Day 1) to 45,495,488 (Day 2) | -43.4%
Midnights: 88,092,162 (Day 1) to 51,001,737 (Day 2) | 42.1%
Her Loss: 51,141,403 - 31,848,615 | -37.7%

Assuming we see a similar loss tomorrow or even equal percentage loss tomorrow (after the usual loss in streams on a Sunday, expecting it to stabilize amongst the 20-29M range for the rest of the week given the mostly positive reception/a Drake album that wasn't panned by non-Drake fans this time around), it's still easily on track to surpassing HN's weekly track. Projected to be the second biggest US album bomb of the year. 

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

Lift Me Up only got a +0.20 radio audience increase today. It will likely take it several weeks to return to the top 10 of Radio Songs if it all.

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2022 » / « 11 » / « 06 »

1(=) Harry Styles - As It Was 79.76(-0.55)
2(=) Steve Lacy - Bad Habit 75.61(+0.10)
3(=) Nicky Youre & Dazy - Sunroof 71.79(-1.19)
4(=) Post Malone - I Like You (A Happier Song) [feat. Doja Cat] 70.61(-0.75)
5(=) Doja Cat - Vegas (From the Original Motion Picture Soundtrack ELVIS) 67.55(-0.08)

6(=) Sia - Unstoppable 64.66(-0.30)
7(=) Nicki Minaj - Super Freaky Girl 60.54(+0.16)
8(=) OneRepublic - I Ain't Worried 55.82(-1.66)
9(+2) Sam Smith & Kim Petras - Unholy 53.95(+1.44)
10(-1) Lizzo - About Damn Time 53.13(-0.63)

13(=) Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero 50.54(+1.25)

24(=) Beyoncé - CUFF IT 38.65(+0.85)

27(+2) The Weeknd - Die For You 35.55(+0.84)

83(+2) Chris Brown - Under the Influence 14.73(+0.76)

-(-) P!nk - Never Gonna Not Dance Again 4.70(+1.31)

-(-) Selena Gomez - My Mind & Me 2.85(+0.87)

-(-) Meghan Trainor - Made You Look 1.38(+1.03) +

[jayhawk1117]

I’m just confused on how it’s NOT about Megan and even if it’s not…. Any person even moderately into pop culture would assume it is.

[mylo]

I'm sorry but I just can't with the "21 can you do sum for me", infact I don't understand the love for Rich Flex as a whole, personally the album gets much better towards the end. Sadly we are seeing hungry Drake again being overshadowed by the MTS line.

[Choco]

Nov 6, 2022 12:47:40 GMT -5 mylo said:

I'm sorry but I just can't with the "21 can you do sum for me", infact I don't understand the love for Rich Flex as a whole, personally the album gets much better towards the end. Sadly we are seeing hungry Drake again being overshadowed by the MTS line.

Placement towards the start of the album helps. Casual listeners tune out before the end of most albums.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

As someone who listens to new albums on a regular basis (probably more than most): it's always better to start off super strong. You can have the best songs in the middle and towards the end but starting off strong means the pacing is much better and makes for an easier listen than if you had to wade through a bunch of mediocrity to get to good songs (see: previous Drake albums)

[thegreatdivine]

Nov 6, 2022 12:34:34 GMT -5 Choco said:

Even if you buy into the delusion that it wasn't a line against Megan, somebody on that room 100% pointed out that it could be interpreted as such and the verse stayed the same.

It's clout chasing and unwarranted. Meg is the most unproblematic of the major female rappers right now. Let her do her thing in peace.

Much like Girls like Girls or whatever it was called, the controversy has been mostly deemed corny and dumb and the song will not be one of the big hits of the project.

First off, there's nothing delusional about it not being about Megan. The anger started when people circulated a fake screenshot of the lyric claiming Drake said 'shot' when he really said 'shots' and the "stallion" he's referring to is a German model known named Elke Madler, also known as Elke the Stallion who has constantly denied rumors of getting a** shots, even following leaked images of her before surgery.

There's a whole play on words with European countries before that particular line with Drake first mentioning he's been f***ing on a FRENCH b**ch, how he just "put 'em on a jet, now they're all ITALIAN", and then the line about the GERMAN model.

If you're a rap fan, you'll understand Drake's tendency to do stuff like this. People got mad off a fake screenshot and taking the lyric out of context, even when they were corrected. That tells you all you need to know.

Also, Drake is a rapper. He doesn't have to be politically correct, and definitely not in his lyrics, especially if he isn't being outright hateful. He had every right to use that line. It's not his fault social media took it out of context and got fake mad like they usually do. As far as I know, he has no issues with Megan (Savage was even interpolated on Rich Flex by 21 Savage).

If he wanted to go at Megan, he could have been a lot more direct about it, seeing as he went at other people directly on the same album.

Personally, I think the line shouldn't have been on the album if it would have caused all this fake anger on social media but at the same time, I'm not here to police Drake on what he can/can't say. People will move on eventually (if they haven't already).

[85la]

Nov 6, 2022 12:26:41 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Drake has always been misogynistic in his music, just like every other male rapper in existence lmao. Perhaps most of you have only listened to his #1 hits but this isn't news to anybody who has actually listened to an extensive amount of Drake songs.

Also, that line was 1000% not about Megan Thee Stallion. But people on Twitter love being fake mad while ignoring facts so it's whatever.

I'm more interested in Her Loss holding better than expected in it's second day. It had a lower drop percentage-wise on than CLB, Honestly, Nevermind & even Midnights on Spotify US:

Honestly, Nevermind: 32,274,030 (Day 1) to 16,623,542 (Day 2) | -48.4%
Certified Lover Boy: 80,441,515 (Day 1) to 45,495,488 (Day 2) | -43.4%
Midnights: 88,092,162 (Day 1) to 51,001,737 (Day 2) | 42.1%
Her Loss: 51,141,403 - 31,848,615 | -37.7%

After looking into this a little, I'm inclined to agree with you that that line wasn't about Megan, but even completely disregarding that, if you're saying that "Drake and every male rapper has always been misogynistic" and that's just how it is, that's somehow supposed to be ok, and new people who come to listen to the music don't have the right to complain and be offended by it? I also take issue with your very statement, as I'm sure it's simply not true, I'm sure there are PLENTY of male rappers who would be raising their hands saying they don't make misogynistic music and are clamoring outside of record labels, but of course it's the more misogynistic type that sells which is why those rappers don't get signed as often.

Nov 6, 2022 13:08:13 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Nov 6, 2022 12:34:34 GMT -5 Choco said:

Even if you buy into the delusion that it wasn't a line against Megan, somebody on that room 100% pointed out that it could be interpreted as such and the verse stayed the same.

It's clout chasing and unwarranted. Meg is the most unproblematic of the major female rappers right now. Let her do her thing in peace.

Much like Girls like Girls or whatever it was called, the controversy has been mostly deemed corny and dumb and the song will not be one of the big hits of the project.

First off, there's nothing delusional about it not being about Megan. The anger started when people circulated a fake screenshot of the lyric claiming Drake said 'shot' when he really said 'shots' and the "stallion" he's referring to is a German model known named Elke Madler, also known as Elke the Stallion who has constantly denied rumors of getting a** shots, even following leaked images of her before surgery.

There's a whole play on words with European countries before that particular line with Drake first mentioning he's been f***ing on a FRENCH b**ch, how he just "put 'em on a jet, now they're all ITALIAN", and then the line about the GERMAN model.

If you're a rap fan, you'll understand Drake's tendency to do stuff like this. People got mad off a fake screenshot and taking the lyric out of context, even when they were corrected. That tells you all you need to know.

Also, Drake is a rapper. He doesn't have to be politically correct, and definitely not in his lyrics, especially if he isn't being outright hateful. He had every right to use that line. It's not his fault social media took it out of context and got fake mad like they usually do. As far as I know, he has no issues with Megan (Savage was even interpolated on Rich Flex by 21 Savage).

If he wanted to go at Megan, he could have been a lot more direct about it, seeing as he went at other people directly on the same album.

Personally, I think the line shouldn't have been on the album if it would have caused all this fake anger on social media but at the same time, I'm not here to police Drake on what he can/can't say. People will move on eventually (if they haven't already).

Why don't rappers have to be politically correct, and is this assuming everyone else has to be?

[thegreatdivine]

85la I'm not saying any rapper being misogynistic is okay, but I'm also not delusional. I'm a black woman whose favorite genre of music also happens to be the most misogynistic and the most dangerous regarding narratives about black women. I live in a world that's consistently trying to ruin me. It doesn't mean I don't still have to wake up every day and find my way around that world.

People who want to be offended by misogynistic rap lyrics have every right to be. I'm just not gonna be one of them because I can't enjoy rap music if I'm trying to police what rappers say or if I take offense to everything. Life is already hard for me as a black woman so I try to be as selective as possible about the things I let offend me. It's the only way I can function.

Historically, hip-hop/rap came about not only as a form of expression for underprivileged black men but as a way for rhymers to be anti-establishment and anti-THE MAN.

Rappers have a long history of saying things other musicians won't dare to say and being unapologetic about it as well. That's why as smart/intelligent as some rappers can be, rap music remains one of the most, if not the most ignorant kind of music you'll find around.

For me, it's an escape and that's what I get out of it. People who go into rap music looking for political correctness or expect rappers to never say offensive things don't understand its history and its place/function primarily with fans of rap music.

[kimberly]

Nov 6, 2022 13:08:13 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Nov 6, 2022 12:34:34 GMT -5 Choco said:

Even if you buy into the delusion that it wasn't a line against Megan, somebody on that room 100% pointed out that it could be interpreted as such and the verse stayed the same.

It's clout chasing and unwarranted. Meg is the most unproblematic of the major female rappers right now. Let her do her thing in peace.

Much like Girls like Girls or whatever it was called, the controversy has been mostly deemed corny and dumb and the song will not be one of the big hits of the project.

First off, there's nothing delusional about it not being about Megan. The anger started when people circulated a fake screenshot of the lyric claiming Drake said 'shot' when he really said 'shots' and the "stallion" he's referring to is a German model known named Elke Madler, also known as Elke the Stallion who has constantly denied rumors of getting a** shots, even following leaked images of her before surgery.

There's a whole play on words with European countries before that particular line with Drake first mentioning he's been f***ing on a FRENCH b**ch, how he just "put 'em on a jet, now they're all ITALIAN", and then the line about the GERMAN model.

If he wanted to go at Megan, he could have been a lot more direct about it, seeing as he went at other people directly on the same album.

what about him saying

Shorty say she graduated, she ain't learn еnough
Play your album, track one, 'kay, I heard enough

a few lines later in the same song? not to mention the line about "shots" could also be about Megan, since she always talks about how her body is natural. there's definitely a Megan Thee Stallion diss in there somewhere, even if it's not exactly about her getting shot by that Canadian dwarf. it's still trying to push buttons either way, in an incel-type way no less.

[85la]

Nov 6, 2022 14:50:51 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

85la I'm not saying any rapper being misogynistic is okay, but I'm also not delusional. I'm a black woman whose favorite genre of music also happens to be the most misogynistic and the most dangerous regarding narratives about black women. I live in a world that's consistently trying to ruin me. It doesn't mean I don't still have to wake up every day and find my way around that world.

People who want to be offended by misogynistic rap lyrics have every right to be. I'm just not gonna be one of them because I can't enjoy rap music if I'm trying to police what rappers say or if I take offense to everything. Life is already hard for me as a black woman so I try to be as selective as possible about the things I let offend me. It's the only way I can function.

Historically, hip-hop/rap came about not only as a form of expression for underprivileged black men but as a way for rhymers to be anti-establishment and anti-THE MAN.

Rappers have a long history of saying things other musicians won't dare to say and being unapologetic about it as well. That's why as smart/intelligent as some rappers can be, rap music remains one of the most, if not the most ignorant kind of music you'll find around.

For me, it's an escape and that's what I get out of it. People who go into rap music looking for political correctness or expect rappers to never say offensive things don't understand its history and its place/function primarily with fans of rap music.

I see, points taken.