Billboard Hot 100: 11/19/2022

[wavey.]

People WANT it to be about Megan so bad, that's also the issue. She's not the only "Stallion". That term has been around for years when it came to describing women. Everything isn't a diss/shot, and social media fcked that up for alot of people. He's been mentioning, describing women in school, and thier Anatomy way before there even was a Megan. But, different opinions at the end of the day🤷🏽

Another note, I'm curious to see how the Hot 100 chart placements will be for Her Loss.

[After Minutes]

The line definitely wasn't about Meg but Drake probably was aware that many people would at first interpret it as such. It's just a case of judging intention - did he leave it in to spark controversy, or despite that?

Not to take away from Meg, but I doubt that Drake would really gain much from dissing her. It's most likely that he didn't give it much thought and just went with it either way

[thegreatdivine]

Nov 6, 2022 15:09:42 GMT -5 wavey. said:

People WANT it to be about Megan, that's also the issue. She's not the only "Stallion". That term has been around for years when it came to describing women. Everything isn't a diss/shot, and social media fcked that up for alot of people.

Another note, I'm curious to see how the Hot 100 chart placements will be for Her Loss.

Something I also found interesting was this tweet.

She posted that tweet first, showing she knows that just because Drake said the word "stallion," didn't necessarily mean he was referring to her and then after seeing people insisting it was about her, she doubled down and once people saw her tweets, they concluded that Drake attacked her.

All the while, accounts like PopCrave were spreading fake screenshots about the lyric to make people even more mad.

The whole situation was just weird.

[thegreatdivine]

Nov 6, 2022 15:29:28 GMT -5 After Minutes said:

The line definitely wasn't about Meg but Drake probably was aware that many people would at first interpret it as such. It's just a case of judging intention - did he leave it in to spark controversy, or despite that?

Not to take away from Meg, but I doubt that Drake would really gain much from dissing her. It's most likely that he didn't give it much thought and just went with it either way

I didn't get her saying he was using her name for clout when he's the last person who needs to do that and all that line brought was fake social media anger that tried to turn attention away from the album.

I can understand her feeling attacked but then again, Drake has no issues against her and the incident with her and Tory Lanez happened almost 3 years ago. Why would Drake jump out of nowhere to throw shade at that situation, one that's currently in court btw, when he hasn't done/said anything to defend Tory Lanez since it happened?

I feel like instead of reacting the way she did, she could/should have reached out to him to verify what he meant by that lyric but its whatever.

[wavey.]

[Choco]

I wanna thank this controversy for getting me to know all about Drake's suppossed botched lipo. I love Twitter rabbit holes.

[rideordie]

Y’all cannot be this dense and obtuse… but then again y’all are drake Stans and tend to excuse his deplorable behavior. That song was definitely about Megan. The use of stallion was referencing Megan who is in fact a TALL THICK BLACK WOMAN. How do you think she got the stage name? And then continued with the line of her getting shot and lying about it, knowing the vitriol most misogynistic men were spewing when the story became public… Even the line about her being a college graduate. Y’all cannot be serious right now. Drake is a loser. When he’s not texting underage teenagers he’s busy being misogynistic especially towards black women. He’s a loser

[kierz7]

Well, the Music Critic Bureaucracy certainly don’t care for him.

💀

[kierz7]

Nov 6, 2022 15:09:42 GMT -5 wavey. said:

People WANT it to be about Megan, that's also the issue. She's not the only "Stallion". That term has been around for years when it came to describing women. Everything isn't a diss/shot, and social media fcked that up for alot of people.

Another note, I'm curious to see how the Hot 100 chart placements will be for Her Loss.

This is why Hip-Hop is DEAD today.

I’m not making any comparisons, at all, but Lord knows the state of the world if social media existed in the 1990’s.

Can you imagine the Jay Z x Nas stans, Tupac x Biggie Smalls stans, Lil’ Kim x Foxy Brown stans going back and forth, and this was a time when rappers ACTUALLY dissed you and sometimes took it right to the streets.

💀

[kcdawg13]

Lol that line was definitely about Megan, like we can go in circles all day about the true meaning but Drake wouldn't of used the specific word "stallion" unless the line was about Meg, even if it wasn't intended that way he definitely knew that line was gonna spread controversy because of the situation surrounding Meg and Tory. We know Drake's goofy ass is already good friends with Tory, so it's not a stretch of the imagination that he would leave his "love black women" stance behind when his homie is accused of something awful. It's also horrible to go after a gun violence victim on your album a few days after Takeoff was lost to gun violence.

Also ignoring the Meg stuff, the diss towards Serena Williams husband is also stupid, dude really likes throwing women under the bus but whenever he's in a real fight (Pusha T) he runs away. Let us not forget when he embarrassed himself on live tv when confessing his love to Rihanna, and his weird friendships with Millie Bobbie Brown and Jorja Smith, the time he tried to hide his child, the time he kissed that underage girl on stage and told her he likes her boobs, etc.

Drake has only won a single real battle in his career and that was against Meek Mill, otherwise he continues to take L's which is why he constantly throws cheap shots at other people and not fellow rappers, early Eminem also took cheap shots but he also had actual beef with real rappers. Whenever Drake does attempt to take shots at other rappers it's always subtweets, dude never actually confronts anyone because that means he actually has to put some effort in and write a good response instead of just s**tting out mediocre albums every year. /rant

[wavey.]

Nov 6, 2022 19:22:18 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

Nov 6, 2022 15:09:42 GMT -5 wavey. said:

People WANT it to be about Megan, that's also the issue. She's not the only "Stallion". That term has been around for years when it came to describing women. Everything isn't a diss/shot, and social media fcked that up for alot of people.

Another note, I'm curious to see how the Hot 100 chart placements will be for Her Loss.

This is why Hip-Hop is DEAD today.

I’m not making any comparisons, at all, but Lord knows the state of the world if social media existed in the 1990’s.

Can you imagine the Jay Z x Nas stans, Tupac x Biggie Smalls stans, Lil’ Kim x Foxy Brown stans going back and forth, and this was a time when rappers ACTUALLY dissed you and sometimes took it right to the streets.

💀

Can you imagine social media during that time????? Good lord, I'd actually have to stop myself from going online lol.

[jayromeo19]

Nov 6, 2022 19:19:17 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

Well, the Music Critic Bureaucracy certainly don’t care for him.

💀

They never did, doesn’t really impact him in any meaningful way.

[thegreatdivine]

Yes, guys, Drake is a monster. The absolute worst. Let's cancel him and further nasty lies about him as a way to defend a line that was never about Megan to begin with.

It's not enough for people to say "I think this line is about Megan and that's a shitty thing if it's true. You suck, Drake. Do better." People have to call Drake a pedophile/groomer (despite all the young women they've tried to attach to him coming out and speaking about how disgusting/untrue those rumors are), they have to mock his race, mock his child/his child's mother, all because they think that's a kii and a way to defend Megan.

I sure do hope all this fake support for Megan is there the next time she drops music because it certainly would be unfortunate if it isn't. Her celebrity has been bigger than her music for years now and it's only getting worse.

[rideordie]

Nov 6, 2022 20:12:54 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Yes, guys, Drake is a monster. The absolute worst. Let's cancel him and further nasty lies about him as a way to defend a line that was never about Megan to begin with.

I sure do hope all this fake support for Megan is there the next time she drops music because it certainly would be unfortunate if it isn't.

Get off drake’s d*ck fore once.

[rosalina4812]

Ok but that line was definitely a subliminal. It wasn’t directly about Meg but it was constructed to have a double entendre that you would be delusional to ignore, especially considering that Drake and Meg are both in the rap game.

[rainygirl]

People can show support for Megan without buying her music , it’s called humanity . Equating supporting her or caring for her well being with how much she sells is quite cynical .
I don’t know if he meant this to be about Megan or not but I do know he has not denied it’s about her so far

[thegreatdivine]

Nov 6, 2022 21:01:22 GMT -5 rainygirl said:

People can show support for Megan without buying her music , it’s called humanity . Equating supporting her or caring for her well being with how much she sells is quite cynical .
I don’t know if he meant this to be about Megan or not but I do know he has not denied it’s about her so far

Nothing cynical about it. She was not attacked to begin with so being fake mad at Drake and trying to further nasty lies about him as a way to "support Megan" is silly. I'd understand the vitriol against Drake if he made a direct comment about her, but doing this much over a "he may have been talking about her" is silly and that's why social media anger is always fake.

The people going at Drake do not give a damn about Megan or her music. They saw an opening to get viral tweets off of Drake's name and jumped at it. That's all there is to it.

When it comes to supporting her in a way that's ACTUALLY benefitial to her (her music career), those same people will be nowhere to be found.

[rimetm]

But you’re taking aim at people on here for being mad. You can’t prove they’re not listening to Megan. You can’t just point to overall numbers and be like “Those are pitiful, so you’re a faker being mad for clout!” when they could easily be within the millions that stream or the thousands that buy.

[rainygirl]

Nov 6, 2022 21:24:05 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Nov 6, 2022 21:01:22 GMT -5 rainygirl said:

People can show support for Megan without buying her music , it’s called humanity . Equating supporting her or caring for her well being with how much she sells is quite cynical .
I don’t know if he meant this to be about Megan or not but I do know he has not denied it’s about her so far

Nothing cynical about it. She was not attacked to begin with so being fake mad at Drake and trying to further nasty lies about him as a way to "support Megan" is silly. I'd understand the vitriol against Drake if he made a direct comment about her, but doing this much over a "he may have been talking about her" is silly and that's why social media anger is always fake.

The people going at Drake do not give a damn about Megan or her music. They saw an opening to get viral tweets off of Drake's name and jumped at it. That's all there is to it.

When it comes to supporting her in a way that's ACTUALLY benefitial to her (her music career), those same people will be nowhere to be found.

all he has to do is deny it and you have to wonder why he chooses not to .. I don’t honestly care who’s going at Drake or what they are bringing up … since he has such a problematic history maybe he shouldn’t tempt fate and then maybe nobody will bring all that stuff up . How is HE the victim in this scenario when he’s the one who opened this can of worms ?

Your idea that Megan needs to call him and ask him is quite ludicrous. Why would she when it’s his obligation to reassure her that this is not about her . Then to imply that she is over reacting because she is what ? Supposed to just take it and say nothing at all ? Come on …then implying she’s fake mad is absolutely the definition of cynical


I get you’re a stan and I’m not trying to interfere with that . But you can still stan while admitting he may be possibly wrong . He doesn’t have to be 100% right all the time .

[kimberly]

Nov 6, 2022 8:17:32 GMT -5 firefox said:

This Drake and 21 Savage thread is boring af. 😩

hope ur happy now, you manifested 💅🏽✨🤩🧚‍♀️🪐🌠🌙

[thegreatdivine]

rainygirl it has nothing to do with me being a Drake fan and Drake doesn't have to deny or confirm anything. He said what he said. Anyone who wants to make it about Megan can do that — but it also doesn't mean they're right about it being about her.

I already said the line wasn't worth it if it was going to cause all this noise on social media and try to distract from an otherwise great album but at the same time, I'm not trying to police what he can/can't say, especially since he didn't take a direct dig at Megan.

We just happen to live in a time where there's a lot of virtue-signaling online with people who feel the need to have a strong reaction/stance to EVERYTHING. People enjoy being mad at someone/something online and they'll never miss an opportunity to feel like their tweets are having some sort of real-life impact.

rimetm people on here can be mad all they want lol. Same with the people mad about the line on social media. I can't stop them and I'm certainly not trying to. And yes, I can totally bring up the general lack of support for Megan's music over the last few years in comparison to the kind of "support" she gets when it comes to tweets because it makes zero sense to me. It doesn't matter if a few thousand of the people supporting her with tweets also listen to her music when the majority clearly don't and that's really what matters at the end of the day.

In conclusion, this won't matter by Tuesday. In fact, most people have moved on (even though critics will try to use it as a reason to talk down on the album because of course). Either way, Drake's career will be fine. He'll keep dropping music and will keep seeing support for said music, which isn't something that can necessarily be said about Megan and her own online "supporters."

Alright, that's pretty much all I have to say about this.

[👑 Eloquent ™]

If those lines weren't about Megan, Drake damn well knew how easily they would've been "misinterpreted" and if he actually took issue with this possibility he would have altered the lyrics to avoid the possibility. So maybe they're not about her, but yes they're about her.

[rainygirl]

Thegreatdivine , it’s all good and have a great night 😊

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

He probably wishes they were about Megan now because this is the most interesting thing people are associating his music with in years. I wouldn't say anything either if I were him. Keep them talking.

[Groovy]

This thread turned toxic really fast.

[wavey.]

Non single Queen

[jasper0102]

What the f*ck just happened?

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Let's not make divine mad anymore

[wavey.]

No but like.. Drake and Taylor really killing shxt at the end of the day. I wonder if they do have something together in the vault...

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Nov 6, 2022 12:05:54 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Nov 6, 2022 1:06:01 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

HER LOSS ON AM AFTER 50 HOURS
1(=) Rich Flex
2(=) Major Distribution
3(=) On BS
4(=) Spin Bout U
5(=) BackOutsideBoyz
6(=) Privileged Rappers
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8(=) Pussy & Millions
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12(-1) Middle of the Ocean
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14(=) More M's
15(=) I Guess It's Fuck Me
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HER LOSS ON AM AFTER 60 HOURS
1(=) Rich Flex
2(=) Major Distribution
3(=) On BS
4(=) Spin Bout U
5(=) BackOutsideBoyz
6(=) Privileged Rappers
7(=) Circo Loco
8(=) Pussy & Millions
9(=) Hours in Silence
10(=) Broke Boys
11(=) Treacherous Twins
12(=) Middle of the Ocean
13(=) Jumbotron Shit Poppin
14(=) More M's
15(=) I Guess It's Fuck Me
16(=) 3AM on Glenwood

HER LOSS ON AM AFTER 72 HOURS
1(=) Rich Flex
2(=) Major Distribution
3(=) On BS
4(=) Spin Bout U
5(=) BackOutsideBoyz
6(=) Privileged Rappers
7(=) Circo Loco
8(=) Pussy & Millions
9(=) Hours in Silence
10(=) Broke Boys
11(=) Treacherous Twins
12(=) Middle of the Ocean
13(=) Jumbotron Shit Poppin
14(=) More M's
15(=) I Guess It's Fuck Me
16(=) 3AM on Glenwood