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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 17, 2022 13:11:59 GMT -5
lol at another.. she's so.. and lots of her fans are mad now. They're mad because she hasn't addressed the Ticketmaster fiasco and also those purchases of remixes last week didn't seem to help. I been on here saying she takes advantage of fans. Some are now seeing it. |
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Post by korbel16 on Nov 17, 2022 13:18:19 GMT -5
as long as she only releases remix’s to block drake, fine lol. but she better not pull out even more new remix’s when it’s time for mariah to take over
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Post by Envoirment on Nov 17, 2022 13:23:21 GMT -5
as long as she only releases remix’s to block drake, fine lol. but she better not pull out even more new remix’s when it’s time for mariah to take over "Anti-hero (feat. Mariah Carey)" (Christmas Remix) Mariah to get her 20th #1. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Nov 17, 2022 13:25:17 GMT -5
lol at another.. she's so.. and lots of her fans are mad now. They're mad because she hasn't addressed the Ticketmaster fiasco and also those purchases of remixes last week didn't seem to help. I been on here saying she takes advantage of fans. Some are now seeing it. Her fans don't believe in a universe where she can take advantage of them in the first place so they'll keep buying whatever she sells them. |
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Post by avavago on Nov 17, 2022 13:43:20 GMT -5
I think it's fair to say "Rich Flex" was challenging for #1. It still has a wide streaming lead over "Anti-Hero" to the point where most predictors had the race pretty close (within 3-4%). The YouTube video didn't guarantee a #1, but it definitely became close. Especially when you consider the recent radio nerf/streaming buff that predictors don't know how to account for yet, which benefits Drake.
I'm sure that this remix will put Swift over the edge, though.
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Nov 17, 2022 13:54:07 GMT -5
Can’t wait for Anti-Hero (20th week at #1 version)
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Nov 17, 2022 13:55:38 GMT -5
Taylor is ruthless this era and doesn’t give two fucks what anyone thinks. Gotta love that about her.
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Post by kierz7 on Nov 17, 2022 14:09:10 GMT -5
Can’t wait for Anti-Hero (20th week at #1 version) “Anti-Hero” ft. Brenda Lee - ‘Rockin’ Around The Xmas Tree’ Remix. Ms. Lee coming for her 3rd #1. ❤️ |
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Post by king_billboard_100 on Nov 17, 2022 14:15:08 GMT -5
as long as she only releases remix’s to block drake, fine lol. but she better not pull out even more new remix’s when it’s time for mariah to take over "Anti-hero (feat. Mariah Carey)" (Christmas Remix) Mariah to get her 20th #1. That could be huge |
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Post by shayonce on Nov 17, 2022 14:33:19 GMT -5
They're mad because she hasn't addressed the Ticketmaster fiasco and also those purchases of remixes last week didn't seem to help. I been on here saying she takes advantage of fans. Some are now seeing it. Her fans don't believe in a universe where she can take advantage of them in the first place so they'll keep buying whatever she sells them. but this time, there're some noises. such as...  |
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Nov 17, 2022 14:49:50 GMT -5
Tbh this debacle is exposing the entitled, fake fans. If you are blaming Taylor Swift for Ticketmaster’s flaws you have deeper routed issues… this may motivate Taylor to find alternative ways to sell her concert tickets in the future but there will always be bitter Betty’s who missed out on concert tickets and have to cry on social media about it. I also HATE how Taylor is always put on a pedestal and judged differently than her peers. She is a TIER I artist that has worked her ass off to get there. Why do some fans think she should be selling her tickets for $50. She’s not running a charity and people seem to forget that. If there’s an issue with Ticketmaster’s pricing, that needs to be addressed, but this is an issue across the board and not just with Taylor.
I ended up with great tickets at $200 a price during the sale and even if I haven’t gotten any, I wouldn’t have taken my frustration out on Taylor.
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Post by m450n on Nov 17, 2022 15:20:08 GMT -5
Tbh this debacle is exposing the entitled, fake fans. If you are blaming Taylor Swift for Ticketmaster’s flaws you have deeper routed issues… this may motivate Taylor to find alternative ways to sell her concert tickets in the future but there will always be bitter Betty’s who missed out on concert tickets and have to cry on social media about it. I also HATE how Taylor is always put on a pedestal and judged differently than her peers. She is a TIER I artist that has worked her ass off to get there. Why do some fans think she should be selling her tickets for $50. She’s not running a charity and people seem to forget that. If there’s an issue with Ticketmaster’s pricing, that needs to be addressed, but this is an issue across the board and not just with Taylor. I ended up with great tickets at $200 a price during the sale and even if I haven’t gotten any, I wouldn’t have taken my frustration out on Taylor. only thing that annoys me is that for apple music listeners and people who bought the vinyls at target got screwed out of getting 'verified fan' codes... we still contributed as much to the midnights first week but got overshadowed... |
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Nov 17, 2022 15:21:26 GMT -5
Taylor Swift, one of the wealthiest women in music (whose tours gross hundreds of millions of dollars), a capitalist. Like the private plane jet emissions outrage all over.
Imagine. Rich people doing carefree/careless rich people sh**.
Random folks: "OH MY GOD!"
ETA: Good grief at the remixes. Just stop. Plz.
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Post by imbuemyblue on Nov 17, 2022 15:24:05 GMT -5
What exactly is Taylor supposed to say about the fiasco that was this week? Ticketmaster is a monopoly that is the only place she could have sold concert tickets. They gave 1.5 million presale codes and then somehow let 14 million people in and it crashed the system. That is on them. And while some fans are mad (and IMO incorrectly blaming her), I wouldn't say it's like they're suddenly seeing the light about her 'taking advantage' of them. There is still a whole general sale tomorrow.
These remixes on the other hand.... girl.....
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Post by 85la on Nov 17, 2022 15:31:22 GMT -5
Tbh this debacle is exposing the entitled, fake fans. If you are blaming Taylor Swift for Ticketmaster’s flaws you have deeper routed issues… this may motivate Taylor to find alternative ways to sell her concert tickets in the future but there will always be bitter Betty’s who missed out on concert tickets and have to cry on social media about it. I also HATE how Taylor is always put on a pedestal and judged differently than her peers. She is a TIER I artist that has worked her ass off to get there. Why do some fans think she should be selling her tickets for $50. She’s not running a charity and people seem to forget that. If there’s an issue with Ticketmaster’s pricing, that needs to be addressed, but this is an issue across the board and not just with Taylor. I ended up with great tickets at $200 a price during the sale and even if I haven’t gotten any, I wouldn’t have taken my frustration out on Taylor. It would be completely reasonable though. They did not get something they paid for and were promised. These were remixes of HER songs they purchased, and they were promised priority access to HER shows. You think she wasn't involved in the decision-making process at all and that she has no control over the situation? |
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Post by 85la on Nov 17, 2022 15:38:36 GMT -5
What exactly is Taylor supposed to say about the fiasco that was this week? Ticketmaster is a monopoly that is the only place she could have sold concert tickets. They gave 1.5 million presale codes and then somehow let 14 million people in and it crashed the system. That is on them. And while some fans are mad (and IMO incorrectly blaming her), I wouldn't say it's like they're suddenly seeing the light about her 'taking advantage' of them. There is still a whole general sale tomorrow. These remixes on the other hand.... girl.....
So Ticketmaster let in an additional 12.5 million people without pre-sale codes? How would they have done that?
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Nov 17, 2022 15:39:18 GMT -5
Tbh this debacle is exposing the entitled, fake fans. If you are blaming Taylor Swift for Ticketmaster’s flaws you have deeper routed issues… this may motivate Taylor to find alternative ways to sell her concert tickets in the future but there will always be bitter Betty’s who missed out on concert tickets and have to cry on social media about it. I also HATE how Taylor is always put on a pedestal and judged differently than her peers. She is a TIER I artist that has worked her ass off to get there. Why do some fans think she should be selling her tickets for $50. She’s not running a charity and people seem to forget that. If there’s an issue with Ticketmaster’s pricing, that needs to be addressed, but this is an issue across the board and not just with Taylor. I ended up with great tickets at $200 a price during the sale and even if I haven’t gotten any, I wouldn’t have taken my frustration out on Taylor. It would be completely reasonable though. They did not get something they paid for and were promised. These were remixes of HER songs they purchased, and they were promised priority access to HER shows. You think she wasn't involved in the decision-making process at all and that she has no control over the situation? Wait...they were promised priority access to her shows for purchasing a remix? Or promised priority access for the chance to purchase tickets? Cause even that doesn't guarantee a ticket. Btw I don't have a foot in the race either way as I'd never pay hundreds of dollars for a concert ticket. lol |
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Post by imbuemyblue on Nov 17, 2022 15:45:27 GMT -5
So Ticketmaster let in an additional 12.5 million people without pre-sale codes? How would they have done that?
I have no idea. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that anyone could get in the queue and the code was to be put in after? Regardless, it is clearly a disaster, and this answer just does not do it for me. |
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Post by 85la on Nov 17, 2022 15:50:02 GMT -5
It would be completely reasonable though. They did not get something they paid for and were promised. These were remixes of HER songs they purchased, and they were promised priority access to HER shows. You think she wasn't involved in the decision-making process at all and that she has no control over the situation? ? Cause even that doesn't guarantee a ticket. Btw I don't have a foot in the race either way as I'd never pay hundreds of dollars for a concert ticket. lol Sorry for my imprecise wording, they were promised priority access for the chance to purchase tickets with the presale codes. |
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Post by imbuemyblue on Nov 17, 2022 15:51:59 GMT -5
OMG sorry for the double post, but tomorrow's general has been CANCELED, due to ticketing issues and insufficient remaining inventory. I rescind what I said; she needs to comment ASAP.
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Post by Mayman on Nov 17, 2022 15:54:46 GMT -5
Tbh this debacle is exposing the entitled, fake fans. If you are blaming Taylor Swift for Ticketmaster’s flaws you have deeper routed issues… this may motivate Taylor to find alternative ways to sell her concert tickets in the future but there will always be bitter Betty’s who missed out on concert tickets and have to cry on social media about it. I also HATE how Taylor is always put on a pedestal and judged differently than her peers. She is a TIER I artist that has worked her ass off to get there. Why do some fans think she should be selling her tickets for $50. She’s not running a charity and people seem to forget that. If there’s an issue with Ticketmaster’s pricing, that needs to be addressed, but this is an issue across the board and not just with Taylor. I ended up with great tickets at $200 a price during the sale and even if I haven’t gotten any, I wouldn’t have taken my frustration out on Taylor. It would be completely reasonable though. They did not get something they paid for and were promised. These were remixes of HER songs they purchased, and they were promised priority access to HER shows. You think she wasn't involved in the decision-making process at all and that she has no control over the situation? There's this misconception that the merch boosts from her store guarantee you a presale code or a higher place in the queue. The boost has nothing to do with the queue, it was just an extra "boost" to potentially get access to the presale code to get presale tickets. The boost was not advertised when purchasing any merch or music items at all, so nothing was promised, I honestly have no idea where you got this from. |
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Post by otaviohmg on Nov 17, 2022 16:06:15 GMT -5
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Post by wavey. on Nov 17, 2022 16:15:02 GMT -5
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Post by David on Nov 17, 2022 17:09:32 GMT -5
I LOVE that Drake put out a YouTube video on the last day of the tracking week. LOLLLLLLL
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Post by David on Nov 17, 2022 17:12:30 GMT -5
Taylor is ruthless this era and doesn’t give two f**ks what anyone thinks. Gotta love that about her. And she shouldn't GAF... she has done a lot for her fans with all this new music. If she wants more weeks @ #1 and people (like me) buy her stuff... go on, Taylor! |
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Post by kimberly on Nov 17, 2022 17:28:17 GMT -5
Question…. How do you know they are lying? The video they're referencing in the tweet isn't even an official music video. It's a recap video filled with random clips from a camcoder Drake has been carrying around for months. It was released 15 hours ago and hasn't even crossed 1M views so how exactly is it "expected to challenge" for anything when Anti-Hero has more sales this week (even without pushing new remixes), a large gap on radio, and isn't far behind on streams? They're the same ones who posted only a few days ago that Anti-Hero was going to be #1 for a fourth week and in the time since, Rich Flex hasn't made any notable gains on streams or radio. Make it make sense. I'm sorry, I think Taylor's tactics are nasty but let's not pretend this music video/recap video drop isn't an unsuccessful attempt by Drake's camp to play the chart game... they wanted to give her a taste of her own poison after seeing the margin for No. 1 looking pretty close. Clearly both of these artists care about the charts and are willing to play the game, but Drake is aware his fans aren't rabid like Taylor's. If Drake could sell web store remixes, 329457 vinyl versions, and exploit his fans, I'm sure he would, too. There's probably not many people willing to pay for his music when it's already smashing without it and streaming is readily available. Can you imagine if the next Drake lead single were a web store download exclusive? He would for sure sell enough to debut at No. 1 comfortably, I think, and maybe even score the biggest week for digital downloads since Adele's "Hello." |
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Post by king_billboard_100 on Nov 17, 2022 17:44:57 GMT -5
Seems like Meghan Trainor gonna return to top 40 😂
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Post by king_billboard_100 on Nov 17, 2022 17:46:20 GMT -5
Taylor is ruthless this era and doesn’t give two f**ks what anyone thinks. Gotta love that about her. And she shouldn't GAF... she has done a lot for her fans with all this new music. If she wants more weeks @ #1 and people (like me) buy her stuff... go on, Taylor! she probably has 6 weeks at #1 in lock (after it depends on AIWFCIU) |
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Nov 17, 2022 18:03:32 GMT -5
Tbh this debacle is exposing the entitled, fake fans. If you are blaming Taylor Swift for Ticketmaster’s flaws you have deeper routed issues… this may motivate Taylor to find alternative ways to sell her concert tickets in the future but there will always be bitter Betty’s who missed out on concert tickets and have to cry on social media about it. I also HATE how Taylor is always put on a pedestal and judged differently than her peers. She is a TIER I artist that has worked her ass off to get there. Why do some fans think she should be selling her tickets for $50. She’s not running a charity and people seem to forget that. If there’s an issue with Ticketmaster’s pricing, that needs to be addressed, but this is an issue across the board and not just with Taylor. I ended up with great tickets at $200 a price during the sale and even if I haven’t gotten any, I wouldn’t have taken my frustration out on Taylor. It would be completely reasonable though. They did not get something they paid for and were promised. These were remixes of HER songs they purchased, and they were promised priority access to HER shows. You think she wasn't involved in the decision-making process at all and that she has no control over the situation? What did they not get that they “paid for”. If you bought a remix, you received exactly that - a remix of her song. Any extra “bonuses” or boosts were never guaranteed. Again, this all comes down to entitled fans crying that they couldn’t get tickets to their favorite artist. Everyone fandom has it, but this is just 10x worse and magnified because Taylor is at the peak of her popularity right now. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 17, 2022 18:05:29 GMT -5
Are we still mad at Taylor for doing to most to secure a number one and successfully getting it and not at Drake for doing the absolutely bare minimum and believing he deserves a pass for it? Give me effort, energy and something to root for over the lazy, ‘this will do’ attitude. Yawn. Male artists get rewarded for the least too much already. Step it up men.
Anyway, Ticketmaster is trash. Sucky situation for the fans. Taylor should comment even if it won’t help at all but she owes it to the literal millions of disappointed fans let down this week. This will go down as a prime example of how it shouldn’t work so she has that going for her I guess. Maybe some good will come out of this and the conversation can turn on the evils of Ticketmaster in the industry - again. As long as she doesn’t cancel the tour the day before it starts I guess.
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