Billboard Hot 100: 02/11/2023

[gikem]

Feb 1, 2023 10:38:03 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

How is he on the level of Luke Combs or Chris Stapleton while putting out music on the level of Chris Hart or Travis Jones?

I think you can primarily thank his producer Joey Moi, who was previously responsible for making Nickelback and Florida Georgia Line such huge deals in the 21st century. Between them and Morgan, it appears that Moi knows how to make otherwise fairly average artists accessible to a wider audience, as well as how to market the hell out of them.

[thegreatdivine]

Feb 1, 2023 10:38:03 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

I don't get it, either. His music is virtually indistinguishable from any of the other faceless white man making country music about alcohol and back roads and trucks and all the other stereotypical country music hee-haw. Even before the racists gathered around to support him, he was still pulling in way better numbers than most of his peers and I just don't get it. How is he on the level of Luke Combs or Chris Stapleton while putting out music on the level of Chris Hart or Travis Jones?

It's like if Mimi Webb started pulling Taylor Swift numbers out of the blue.

You could go through 100 years of music history and easily say the same thing about any musician who made "just okay" music and saw huge amounts of success.

The reality is that the majority of people who consume music don't think that deeply about perceived quality. They listen to songs and if they like it, they like it. If they discover an artist with a bunch of songs they enjoy, they keep supporting that artist, regardless of whether or not their music is great or just okay (which is something that's subjective anyways).

As for Morgan, I find his songs accessible and he makes good-enough music. That's more than enough reason for most people to support his music and as far as who gets to become really successful and who doesn't, that mostly rests on how the music connects with audiences/who gets pushed in the most strategic way.

[Au$tin]

Feb 1, 2023 15:07:57 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Feb 1, 2023 10:38:03 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

I don't get it, either. His music is virtually indistinguishable from any of the other faceless white man making country music about alcohol and back roads and trucks and all the other stereotypical country music hee-haw. Even before the racists gathered around to support him, he was still pulling in way better numbers than most of his peers and I just don't get it. How is he on the level of Luke Combs or Chris Stapleton while putting out music on the level of Chris Hart or Travis Jones?

It's like if Mimi Webb started pulling Taylor Swift numbers out of the blue.

You could go through 100 years of music history and easily say the same thing about any musician who made "just okay" music and saw huge amounts of success.

The reality is that the majority of people who consume music don't think that deeply about perceived quality. They listen to songs and if they like it, they like it. If they discover an artist with a bunch of songs they enjoy, they keep supporting that artist, regardless of whether or not their music is great or just okay (which is something that's subjective anyways).

As for Morgan, I find his songs accessible and he makes good-enough music. That's more than enough reason for most people to support his music and as far as who gets to become really successful and who doesn't, that mostly rests on how the music connects with audiences/who gets pushed in the most strategic way.

I never said people can't like him, I said I don't understand why he is so much bigger than peers that produce similar quality music. What about him makes *more* people like him and listen to him than the countless others that are exactly like him? I don't get it. And it's not for lack of trying, many of his peers that make indistinguishable songs from his are churning our country radio hits and performing on TV all the time, but they don't move the albums or stream nearly as well as Morgan. Your post does not answer that question. Believe me, I am beyond familiar of the concept of quality =/= success.

[firefox]

Billboard hasn't announced the Woman of the Year award? I think it's between Taylor, Beyonce or Doja

[renfield75]

Feb 1, 2023 18:01:56 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Feb 1, 2023 15:07:57 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

You could go through 100 years of music history and easily say the same thing about any musician who made "just okay" music and saw huge amounts of success.

The reality is that the majority of people who consume music don't think that deeply about perceived quality. They listen to songs and if they like it, they like it. If they discover an artist with a bunch of songs they enjoy, they keep supporting that artist, regardless of whether or not their music is great or just okay (which is something that's subjective anyways).

As for Morgan, I find his songs accessible and he makes good-enough music. That's more than enough reason for most people to support his music and as far as who gets to become really successful and who doesn't, that mostly rests on how the music connects with audiences/who gets pushed in the most strategic way.

I never said people can't like him, I said I don't understand why he is so much bigger than peers that produce similar quality music. What about him makes *more* people like him and listen to him than the countless others that are exactly like him? I don't get it. And it's not for lack of trying, many of his peers that make indistinguishable songs from his are churning our country radio hits and performing on TV all the time, but they don't move the albums or stream nearly as well as Morgan. Your post does not answer that question. Believe me, I am beyond familiar of the concept of quality =/= success.

But that's true in every genre...how many artists sound like Dua Lipa or Olivia Rodrigo or Lil Baby? Why did Christina Milian and Amerie fade away and Rihanna became a global superstar? Some performers just have an "it" factor that's hard to describe, but once they hit the mainstream people react to it.

Morgan has a gravelly voice and isn't the romance-cover-model kind of handsome a lot of his peers are. He's a relatable underdog to country fans and using trap elements draws in other audiences. It's a bit like Post Malone. And, sadly, the slur controversy definitely helped. His hardcore base has a fear of "cancel culture" and became very protective of him during that. They feel they're defending freedom and owning the libs or something by supporting him.

[thegreatdivine]

Feb 1, 2023 18:01:56 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Feb 1, 2023 15:07:57 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

You could go through 100 years of music history and easily say the same thing about any musician who made "just okay" music and saw huge amounts of success.

The reality is that the majority of people who consume music don't think that deeply about perceived quality. They listen to songs and if they like it, they like it. If they discover an artist with a bunch of songs they enjoy, they keep supporting that artist, regardless of whether or not their music is great or just okay (which is something that's subjective anyways).

As for Morgan, I find his songs accessible and he makes good-enough music. That's more than enough reason for most people to support his music and as far as who gets to become really successful and who doesn't, that mostly rests on how the music connects with audiences/who gets pushed in the most strategic way.

I never said people can't like him, I said I don't understand why he is so much bigger than peers that produce similar quality music. What about him makes *more* people like him and listen to him than the countless others that are exactly like him? I don't get it. And it's not for lack of trying, many of his peers that make indistinguishable songs from his are churning our country radio hits and performing on TV all the time, but they don't move the albums or stream nearly as well as Morgan. Your post does not answer that question. Believe me, I am beyond familiar of the concept of quality =/= success.

I believe I answered that question in my post — his music connects with people in a way the music of his peers doesn't. That's the reason why any artist gets bigger than their peers despite all parties having the same visibility/opportunities.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - 01/31/23

1(=) Miley Cyrus - Flowers 2,522,091 (-33,187)
2(=) SZA - Kill Bill 2,150,681 (-26,671)
3(DEBUT) Morgan Wallen - Last Night 1,392,613
4(-1) Metro Boomin, The Weeknd, 21 Savage - Creepin' 1,153,369 (-1,344)
5(DEBUT) Morgan Wallen - Everything I Love 1,074,528
6(DEBUT) Morgan Wallen - I Wrote the Book 1,067,336
7(-3) Metro Boomin, Future, Chris Brown - Superhero (Heroes & Villains) 1,063,181 (+53,263) 
8(-2) Lil Uzi Vert - Just Wanna Rock 1,001,353 (+57,677)
9(-4) Drake, 21 Savage - Rich Flex 989,920 (+29,163)
10(-3) The Weeknd - Die For You 886,329 (-3,010) 

Others:
11(-3) Miguel - Sure Thing 861,457 (-11,923)
12(-3) JVKE - golden hour 856,839 (+7,924)
13(-2) Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero 830,794 (+10,882)
14(-4) Bizarrap, Shakira - Shakira: Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 53 830,093 (-11,681)
15(-3) The Kid LAROI - Love Again 807,413 (-2,155)
16(-3) Steve Lacy - Bad Habit 807,409 (+5,088)
18(-3) Zach Bryan - Something in the Orange 747,455 (+13,950)
19(=) Harry Styles - As It Was 706,743 (+13,950)
20(-4) SZA - Low 705,905 (-14,537) 
21(-4) d4vd - Here With Me 699,535 (-6,562)
22(-4) Zach Bryan, Maggie Rogers - Dawns 692,878 (-2,560) 
23(-3) Sam Smith, Kim Petras - Unholy 682,892 (-4,264)
24(-3) SZA - Snooze 671,388 (-8,491)
25(-3) J. Cole - No Role Modelz 668,781 (+24,888)
26(-3) RAYE, 070 Shake - Escapism. 630,198 (+1,703)
27(-2) Tory Lanez - The Color Violet 618,004 (-963) 
28(-1) Bailey Zimmerman - Rock and A Hard Place 610,505 (+38,890) 
29(-5) Fuerza Regida, Grupo Frontera - Bebe Dame 604,618 (-19,419)
30(-2) NewJeans - OMG 598,738 (+29,064)
31(-2) Baby Tate - Hey, Mickey! 585,003  (+17,727)
32(-2) Taylor Swift - Lavender Haze 578,689 (+18,171)
33(-7) SZA - Nobody Gets Me 578,563 (-8,710) 
34(-3) David Guetta, Bebe Rexha - I'm Good (Blue) 577,084 (+24,406)
36(-2) NewJeans - Ditto 556,776 (+14,285) 
37(+11) Morgan Wallen - You Proof 547,395 (+99,303) (+22%)
38(-5) The Neighbourhood - Sweater Weather 546,933 (-184)
39(-7) Kali Uchis - I Wish you Roses 543,054 (-6,307)
40(-5) Hotel Ugly - Shut up My Moms Calling 534,142 (-3,667)
41(-5) SZA - Shirt 527,284 (-10,063)
42(-3) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 500,273 (-848)
43(-5) Mac DeMarco - Heart to Heart 492,930 (-22,662) 
45(+57) Morgan Wallen - One Thing At A Time 488,891 (+159,005) (+48%)
48(-5) ThxSoMch - SPIT IN MY FACE! 467,711 (+3,710)
49(-5) Sabrina Carpenter - Nonsense 465,485 (+2,339)
50(-5) Arctic Monkeys - 505 462,438 (+777)
51(-4) Rema, Selena Gomez - Calm Down 462,160 (+13,661)
52(-10) Sam Smith, Calvin Harris, Jessie Reyez - I'm Not Here to Make Friends 458,926 (-9,060)
53(-1) Stephen Sanchez, Em Beihold - Until I Found You [Duet] 449,988 (+17,325)
55(-9) SZA - Blind 442,758 (-8,813)
57(-7) The Weeknd, Lana Del Rey - Stargirl Interlude 437,809 (+645) 
58(+2) Lil Baby - Freestyle 435,326 (+25,180)
59(-8) Beach House - Space Song 432,662 (-1,460)
60(-4) Yeat - Out thë way 426,503 (+9,389)
61(=) Metro Boomin, Future, Don Toliver - Too Many Nights 425,590 (+18,362)
63(-10) Carin Leon, Grupo Frontera - Que Vuelvas 421,632 (-5,137)
64(+2) Meghan Trainor - Made You Look 419,282 (+19,211)
65(-10) Omar Apollo - Evergreen 418,215 (-5,688) 
67(+8) Metro Boomin, 21 Savage - Glock in My Lap 410,623 (+23,525)
68(-4) Arcángel, Bad Bunny - La Jumpa 408,757 (+4,369)
70(+7) Coi Leray - Players 405,164 (+23,636)
73(-6) Beyoncé - CUFF IT 400,722 (+5,437)
76(-13) Arctic Monkeys - I Wanna Be Yours 397,517 (-7,951)
79(+3) Metro Boomin, Travis Scott, 21 Savage - Niagara Falls (Foot or 2) 393,628 (+24,299)
80(+23) Morgan Wallen - Thought You Should Know 391,139 (+62,731) (+19%)
81(-8) Manuel Turizo - La Bachata 388,795 (+284)
87(-8) Cigarettes After Sex - Apocalypse 373,122 (-5,176)
89(-3) Trippie Redd, Juice WRLD - KNIGHT CRAWLER 371,730 (+4,263)
90(-3) Oscar Maydon, Junior H - Fin de Semana 371,684 (+6,181)
93(+89) HARDY, Morgan Wallen - red 358,337 (+85,897) (+32%)
94(-3) Natanael Cano, Peso Pluma, Gabito Ballesteros - AMG 358,049 (+7,462)
95(+3) Lizzy McAlpine - ceilings 348,763 (+14,005)
96(-16) Lil Yachty - the BLACK seminole. 347,972 (-28,477)
98(-9) The Weeknd, Gesaffelstein - I Was Never There 345,796 (-5,252)
99(-2) TV Girl - Lovers Rock 345,609 (+4,119)

101(-8) Billie Eilish - TV 344,152 (-4,401)
102(-10) Taylor Swift - Midnight Rain 344,152 (-5,850)
106(+16) Luke Combs - Going, Going, Gone 331,252 (+22,708)
107(-8) Chris Brown - Under the Influence 331,150 (-1,900)
108(-8) PinkPantheress - Boy's a liar 330,834 (+409)
111(+1) Tiësto, Tate McRae - 10:35 329,366 (+10,521)
114(-6) Ñengo Flow, Bad Bunny - Gato de Noche 325,804  (+4,130)
117(-10) Peso Pluma, Natanael Cano - PRC 322,891 (+477)
122(-37) TOMORROW X TOMORROW - Sugar Rush Ride 314,590 (-53,499)
123(-3) Tom Odell - Another Love 314,269 (+3,904)
126(+22) Zach Bryan - Sun to Me 313,404 (+19,712)
133(+5) Zach Bryan - Heading South 305,545  (+7,876)
134(-13) Beach Weather - Sex, Drugs, Etc. 304,992 (-5,306)
137(-4) Stephen Sanchez - Until I Found You 302,879 (+500)
138(-24) Grupo Frontera - No Se Va 302,017 (-12,827)
139(-8) Noah Kahan - Stick Season 301,389 (-1,548)
140(-8) PARTYNEXTDOOR - Break from Toronto 300,249 (-2,608)
141(-13) Mac DeMarco - Chamber of Reflection 300,151 (-4,691)
143(-13) Brent Faiyaz - Clouded 299,041 (-4,105)
145(+4) Baby Keem - HONEST 298,849 (+5,862)
148(-3) Future - Solo 297,840 (+3,509)
150(+5) Freddie Dredd - Limbo 296,393 (+8,373)
155(-11) Joji - Die For You 294,107 (-247)
162(+5) Yandel, Feid - Yandel 150 287,587 (+10,100)
164(-14) Miguel - Girl With The Tattoo Enter.lewd 286,222 (-5,282)
165(+20) Cordae, Anderson .Paak - Two Tens 271,742 (+32,712)
170(-14) Mac DeMarco - For the first time 282,327 (-4,807)
173(=) Ice Spice - In Ha Mood 281,149 (+7,286)
179(-5) Zach Bryan - Burn, Burn, Burn 277,973 (+4,212)
185(re-entry) Morgan Wallen - Tennessee Fan 275,811
187(re-entry) ROSALÍA - LLYLM 275,434
192(-8) A Boogie Wit da Hoodie - Secrets 273,559 (+1,615)
196(=) Mr.Kitty - After Dark 270,925 (+3,448)
198(+2) Megan Moroney - Tennessee Orange 270,688 (+5,155)

Total Streams for Until I Found You: 752,867 (Would be #17 with combined streams)

Biggest Gains (50K+): red, Thought You Should Know, One Thing At A Time, You Proof, Just Wanna Rock, Superhero (Heroes & Villains)

Seeing Morgan Wallen have 3 debuts in the Top 10:

[Au$tin]

Feb 1, 2023 19:33:31 GMT -5 renfield75 said:

Feb 1, 2023 18:01:56 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

I never said people can't like him, I said I don't understand why he is so much bigger than peers that produce similar quality music. What about him makes *more* people like him and listen to him than the countless others that are exactly like him? I don't get it. And it's not for lack of trying, many of his peers that make indistinguishable songs from his are churning our country radio hits and performing on TV all the time, but they don't move the albums or stream nearly as well as Morgan. Your post does not answer that question. Believe me, I am beyond familiar of the concept of quality =/= success.

But that's true in every genre...how many artists sound like Dua Lipa or Olivia Rodrigo or Lil Baby? Why did Christina Milian and Amerie fade away and Rihanna became a global superstar? Some performers just have an "it" factor that's hard to describe, but once they hit the mainstream people react to it.

Morgan has a gravelly voice and isn't the romance-cover-model kind of handsome a lot of his peers are. He's a relatable underdog to country fans and using trap elements draws in other audiences. It's a bit like Post Malone. And, sadly, the slur controversy definitely helped. His hardcore base has a fear of "cancel culture" and became very protective of him during that. They feel they're defending freedom and owning the libs or something by supporting him.

I'm very well aware of the concept of an it factor, that's what my initial post was asking for. What is his appeal that puts him ahead of everyone else? Because even after you explained it in the second paragraph, I just don't see that. Him and his music are completely indistinguishable from 60% of the artists to chart on country in the last 5 years to me. I'm at a loss here.

That's why I mentioned Mimi Webb in my initial post. Who is she to the pop world? What's her image? Her hook? Her music is fine and passable, but there isn't much substance past that, and because of that, she doesn't see much mainstream success. This is how I also feel about Morgan Wallen, but instead he's one of the most successful country musicians out there right now and I just don't understand how that came to be, which is not something I can say about any of the other massively successful country musicians of the last few years. And it can't just be contributed to the racial slur attracting the bigots, he was already a big draw before that happened.

I felt this same way about debut era Dua Lipa too. I was so confused on why she was getting so much attention despite not feeling special at all. She found her selling point (and stage presence, lol) for Future Nostalgia, though, good for her.

[Crimsonio]

Miley and SZA please save us from that racist man. Thanks!

[Fanstar1]

Morgan Wallen is dominating on Apple Music right now. Here are where the 9 tracks out from the album so far are currently there:

#2 — Last Night
#5 — One Thing At A Time
#6 — Everything I Love
#8 — I Wrote The Book
#9 — You Proof
#11 — Thought You Should Know
#19 — Tennessee Fan
#26 — Days That End In Why
#38 — Don't Think Jesus

[85la]

Feb 1, 2023 23:04:03 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Feb 1, 2023 19:33:31 GMT -5 renfield75 said:

But that's true in every genre...how many artists sound like Dua Lipa or Olivia Rodrigo or Lil Baby? Why did Christina Milian and Amerie fade away and Rihanna became a global superstar? Some performers just have an "it" factor that's hard to describe, but once they hit the mainstream people react to it.

Morgan has a gravelly voice and isn't the romance-cover-model kind of handsome a lot of his peers are. He's a relatable underdog to country fans and using trap elements draws in other audiences. It's a bit like Post Malone. And, sadly, the slur controversy definitely helped. His hardcore base has a fear of "cancel culture" and became very protective of him during that. They feel they're defending freedom and owning the libs or something by supporting him.

I'm very well aware of the concept of an it factor, that's what my initial post was asking for. What is his appeal that puts him ahead of everyone else? Because even after you explained it in the second paragraph, I just don't see that. Him and his music are completely indistinguishable from 60% of the artists to chart on country in the last 5 years to me. I'm at a loss here.

That's why I mentioned Mimi Webb in my initial post. Who is she to the pop world? What's her image? Her hook? Her music is fine and passable, but there isn't much substance past that, and because of that, she doesn't see much mainstream success. This is how I also feel about Morgan Wallen, but instead he's one of the most successful country musicians out there right now and I just don't understand how that came to be, which is not something I can say about any of the other massively successful country musicians of the last few years. And it can't just be contributed to the racial slur attracting the bigots, he was already a big draw before that happened.

I felt this same way about debut era Dua Lipa too. I was so confused on why she was getting so much attention despite not feeling special at all. She found her selling point (and stage presence, lol) for Future Nostalgia, though, good for her.

But I think before the racial slur, though big, he was nowhere near as successful as he was after, maybe not even on the level of Luke Combs or Chris Stapleton as you mention. Like, while his debut was huge, it spent nowhere near two years in the top 10. So combined with his widely accessible and relatable music (at least to country fans), his ruggedly good looks, relative youth, and a strong label and marketing push, the racial slur might have been the tipping point for the bigots to latch on to this already winning formula and take him to the stratospheric heights we are seeing today.

[Lukas]

Morgan Wallen was absolutely at the level of Luke Combs even before the racial slur. His song "7 Summers" debuted at #6 in 2020 and his album broke the record for the most weekly streams by a country album in January 2021 surpassing the previous record by well over double (which means, take away half of the songs from his album and it would have still broken the record). No one denies that he got more successful after that happened, but before that happened he was already one of the two biggest country artists in the US.

[jasper0102]

Feb 1, 2023 12:12:45 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Feb 1, 2023 12:11:34 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2023 » / « 02 » / « 01 »

1(=) David Guetta & Bebe Rexha - I'm Good (Blue) 92.58(-0.16)
2(+1) The Weeknd - Die For You 90.30(+0.55)

5 year old song and 6 year old battling out for the top spot

With a 18 year old glorified cover that is actually great coming in as another challenger! Anyways i hope Die For You can get to #1 for atleast a day before Creepin comes in.

Feb 1, 2023 14:57:03 GMT -5 gikem said:

Feb 1, 2023 10:38:03 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

How is he on the level of Luke Combs or Chris Stapleton while putting out music on the level of Chris Hart or Travis Jones?

I think you can primarily thank his producer Joey Moi, who was previously responsible for making Nickelback and Florida Georgia Line such huge deals in the 21st century.

Wait Joey Moi produced for Nickelback?

[thegreatdivine]

US Apple Music top 10 right now:
1. Morgan Wallen - Last Night
2. Miley Cyrus - Flowers
3. SZA - Kill Bill
4. SZA - Snooze
5. Drake & 21 Savage - Rich Flex
6. Morgan Wallen - One Thing at a Time
7. Morgan Wallen - I Wrote the Book
8. Morgan Wallen - Everything I Love
9. Morgan Wallen - You Proof
10. Metro Boomin, The Weeknd & 21 Savage - Creepin'

[gikem]

Feb 2, 2023 1:26:24 GMT -5 jasper0102 said:

Feb 1, 2023 14:57:03 GMT -5 gikem said:

I think you can primarily thank his producer Joey Moi, who was previously responsible for making Nickelback and Florida Georgia Line such huge deals in the 21st century.

Wait Joey Moi produced for Nickelback?

Yep. He produced for them from 2003-2008, including for their All The Right Reasons era that spawned 5 huge hits.

[Deleted]

Feb 2, 2023 4:58:01 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

US Apple Music top 10 right now:
1. Morgan Wallen - Last Night
2. Miley Cyrus - Flowers
3. SZA - Kill Bill
4. SZA - Snooze
5. Drake & 21 Savage - Rich Flex
6. Morgan Wallen - One Thing at a Time
7. Morgan Wallen - I Wrote the Book
8. Morgan Wallen - Everything I Love
9. Morgan Wallen - You Proof
10. Metro Boomin, The Weeknd & 21 Savage - Creepin'

Umm Morgan Wallen's domination is going to be crazy 

The fact Dangerous is doing 3.5m daily on Spotify is so impressive. 

[jayhawk1117]

Idk what the record for most country songs in the top 10 is (probably 2) but surely Morgan is gonna break it with ease

[firefox]

Morgan is the biggest country act in the US right now. Wonder if he can make it globally?

[Future Captain]

Feb 2, 2023 9:44:36 GMT -5 firefox said:

Morgan is the biggest country act in the US right now. Wonder if he can make it globally?

considering Taylor struggles to gain traction outside of the Anglosphere until she went full pop with 1989, I doubt Morgan Wallen whose sound is much less poppy could

[explicit]

Feb 2, 2023 9:44:36 GMT -5 firefox said:

Morgan is the biggest country act in the US right now. Wonder if he can make it globally?

Country music is not popular outside US and Canada, in general terms.

Shania and Taylor had to go pop to become global stars.

[HamedM1 💔]

M*rgan's album is gonna be a pandemic for the charts isn't it...

[jasper0102]

Feb 2, 2023 10:58:48 GMT -5 HamedM1 💔 said:

M*rgan's album is gonna be a pandemic for the charts isn't it...

Tbh it'd be a miracle if he doesn't break the record for most songs charting on the Hot 100 by a single artist on his album bomb week.
Atleast the utter massacre not unlike Midnights, CLB, or Scorpion will be somewhat interesting to watch just for how big it's gonna be.

[HamedM1 💔]

In good news, RAYE will be dropping her long awaited debut album tonight My 21st Century Blues and PinkPantheress will be dropping the Ice Spice remix of her currently viral song "Boy's A Liar" as well, I hope they both get some chart damage in cause they are two of the best underrated rising stars in the industry!

[Deleted]

Feb 2, 2023 9:53:28 GMT -5 Future Captain said:

Feb 2, 2023 9:44:36 GMT -5 firefox said:

Morgan is the biggest country act in the US right now. Wonder if he can make it globally?

considering Taylor struggles to gain traction outside of the Anglosphere until she went full pop with 1989, I doubt Morgan Wallen whose sound is much less poppy could

Love Story, You Belong With Me, I Knew You Were Trouble and We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together were massive outside the anglosphere so i'm not sure what you mean. Love Story was literally Top 10 in the IFPI and You Belong With Me is the second most watched Music Video from a female artist of the 2000s on Youtube. 

I do know this is a narrative among "stans" especially older ones from Europe but that doesn't make it true. Fearless and Red's global certifications speak for themselves

Fearless
Australia (ARIA)[133] 7× Platinum 490,000^
Austria (IFPI Austria)[139] Gold 10,000*
Canada (Music Canada)[132] 4× Platinum 320,000^
Denmark (IFPI Danmark)[141] Platinum 20,000double-dagger
GCC (IFPI Middle East)[244] Gold 3,000*
Germany (BVMI)[138] Gold 100,000double-dagger
Ireland (IRMA)[129] 2× Platinum 30,000^
Japan (RIAJ)[142] Gold 100,000^
Philippines (PARI)[143] 9× Platinum 135,000*
New Zealand (RMNZ)[131] 3× Platinum 45,000^
Norway (IFPI Norway)[140] Gold 15,000*
Singapore (RIAS)[144] 2× Platinum 20,000*
United Kingdom (BPI)[130] 2× Platinum 600,000double-dagger
United States (RIAA)[120] Diamond 7,210,000

Total: 14 countries 

Red
Australia (ARIA)[112] 5× Platinum
Belgium (BEA)[251] 2× Platinum
Brazil (Pro-Música Brasil)[252] Gold
Canada (Music Canada)[113] 4× Platinum
Colombia (ASINCOL)[253] Gold
Denmark (IFPI Danmark)[254] Platinum
France (SNEP)[255] Gold
Germany (BVMI)[256] Gold
Ireland (IRMA)[257] Platinum
Japan (RIAJ)[260] Platinum
Japan (RIAJ)[261] Digital download Gold
Mexico (AMPROFON)[262] Gold
New Zealand (RMNZ)[114] 2× Platinum
Poland (ZPAV)[263] Gold
Singapore (RIAS)[264] 2× Platinum
Sweden (GLF)[265] Gold
United Kingdom (BPI)[117] 2× Platinum
United States (RIAA)[106] 7× Platinum

Total: 17 countries 

These are definitely not local efforts. Even Speak Now is certified in five of seven continents 

A local artists is one with certifications in one or two countries like Morgan. Not albums certified in every single region with a certification system. Yes, 1989 was massive everywhere but every artist has that one standup like The Fame, I Am Sasha Fierce or TD.

[Groovy]

Feb 2, 2023 10:37:08 GMT -5 explicit said:

Feb 2, 2023 9:44:36 GMT -5 firefox said:

Morgan is the biggest country act in the US right now. Wonder if he can make it globally?

Country music is not popular outside US and Canada, in general terms.

Shania and Taylor had to go pop to become global stars.

Australia has a solid country presence, not as big as North America though.

[Deleted]

Ireland too. Garth Brooks sold out five dates at Croke Park last year. Although Morgan hasn't really made a dent there yet

[explicit]

I know about Ireland and Australia, but those are exceptions not the rule.

Even if Morgan smashes Ireland, that won't make him a global superstar.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

If a tour with stops in America, Canada, the Uk and Germany can be considered a “world tour,” an artist with certifications in the US, Canada, Ireland and Australia can be considered “global.” 😂😂😂

[Gary]

Morgan Wallen has a strong presence on the Canada Hot 100, obviously USA

But on the Global Excl US chart - he has yet to chart

[mms82]

Feb 2, 2023 12:22:32 GMT -5 Gary said:

Morgan Wallen has a strong presence on the Canada Hot 100, obviously USA

But on the Global Excl US chart - he has yet to chart

That is wild- I hope he gets a U.S. number one hit and it would be hysterical if that happens before he charts on the Global 200 excl US

Country truly is the most “local” genre to the US