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Post by 85la on Apr 22, 2023 22:22:24 GMT -5
Of course people are all too ready to pounce on Ed and announce this his flop era as soon as possible. It's important to note that Boat isn't a radio-promoted single, so it's not going to debut in the top 10 or anything. Having said that though, I'll admit early signs are that the hype isn't what it used to be for him, and Boat is probably one of his worst songs ever, which probably contributed to it debuting so low.
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Post by musiclife on Apr 22, 2023 22:33:52 GMT -5
I actually think Boat is leaps and bounds better than Eyes Closed.
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Post by atg on Apr 22, 2023 23:33:34 GMT -5
Starboy is easily his worst album BBTM is pretty terrible outside of the singles (Earned It sucks though), Starboy is bloated and has a lot of filler but the highs are way higher than BBTM. But they are both pretty close to being his worst work in retrospective. Both albums are just a collection of songs, while his recent stuff like After Hours and Dawn FM are cohesive and full bodies of work. Starboy has honestly aged well enough for me. Itβs sonically cohesive just not to the extent that After Hours and Dawn FM go towards, and its way too overhated just because its full on pop album for the most part. For me i have both BBTM and MDM at the bottom, as these projects do have songs that either lack a lot in structure or are some of his worst (as a big fan theyβre really like 6.5s at the lowest but still). Donβt get me wrong there are some incredible gems on both but for every other project heβs done, the lows on each one are still songs i can enjoy listening to. |
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Post by jasper0102 on Apr 23, 2023 0:07:19 GMT -5
There's a reason people went back to Starboy to give him another hit. This new Weeknd music isn't hitting like he used to. Starboy is easily his worst album Out of the 3 albums iβve Listened to from him I agree. Itβs still solid and the highs are great (the trap songs, the Daft Punk produced songs, False Alarm) but itβs not as great as Dawn FM or After Hours. Does Ella Baila Sola have a chance at going #1 next week? If the streaming keeps gaining, maybe? But itβs more likely to have a shot of going there by the 5/20 or 5/27 charts. I think itβs safe to say βLast Nightβ will be #1 again next week? Seems like it, and itβs probably gonna stay there for a bit. |
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Post by tekkenguy on Apr 23, 2023 0:10:53 GMT -5
Starboy is easily his worst album Out of the 3 albums iβve Listened to from him I agree. Itβs still solid and the highs are great (the trap songs, the Daft Punk produced songs, False Alarm) but itβs not as great as Dawn FM or After Hours. Does Ella Baila Sola have a chance at going #1 next week? If the streaming keeps gaining, maybe? But itβs more likely to have a shot of going there by the 5/20 or 5/27 charts. I think itβs safe to say βLast Nightβ will be #1 again next week? Seems like it, and itβs probably gonna stay there for a bit. From what I understand, EBS needs well over 40 million streams to get to #1 next week. Otherwise it has to wait for either radio to catch up or Morgan to start falling. |
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Post by jasper0102 on Apr 23, 2023 0:19:24 GMT -5
Out of the 3 albums iβve Listened to from him I agree. Itβs still solid and the highs are great (the trap songs, the Daft Punk produced songs, False Alarm) but itβs not as great as Dawn FM or After Hours. If the streaming keeps gaining, maybe? But itβs more likely to have a shot of going there by the 5/20 or 5/27 charts. Seems like it, and itβs probably gonna stay there for a bit. From what I understand, EBS needs well over 40 million streams to get to #1 next week. Otherwise it has to wait for either radio to catch up or Morgan to start falling. Given how Morganβs streaming and radio are doing, i donβt think having 4-5 million streams more than him will be enough. |
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Post by tekkenguy on Apr 23, 2023 1:01:43 GMT -5
From what I understand, EBS needs well over 40 million streams to get to #1 next week. Otherwise it has to wait for either radio to catch up or Morgan to start falling. Given how Morganβs streaming and radio are doing, i donβt think having 4-5 million streams more than him will be enough. OK. 45 Million. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Apr 23, 2023 1:21:59 GMT -5
US Apple Music positions of recently-released singles
19. Ice Spice, Nicki Minaj - Princess Diana
49. The Weeknd - Double Fantasy (feat. Future)
76. Kim Petras - Alone (feat. Nicki Minaj)
90. Post Malone - Chemical
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Post by After Minutes on Apr 23, 2023 1:57:10 GMT -5
Starboy is easily his worst album BBTM is pretty terrible outside of the singles (Earned It sucks though), Starboy is bloated and has a lot of filler but the highs are way higher than BBTM. But they are both pretty close to being his worst work in retrospective. Both albums are just a collection of songs, while his recent stuff like After Hours and Dawn FM are cohesive and full bodies of work. I mostly agree but there's just less filler on BBTM than Starboy imo. Neither album is bad, they're just not as good as his other projects |
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Post by artistry on Apr 23, 2023 3:25:31 GMT -5
I would love for Stephen Sanchez to get his second top 40 hit with Evangeline.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Apr 23, 2023 6:05:20 GMT -5
Day 2 Streams:
#8. (-4) Double Fantasy - 1,022,382 (-26.34%)
#87. (-45) Alone - 404,969 (-35.09%)
#164. (-77) Haegeum - 304,126 (-31.68%)
AMG enters the Top 10, making it now 4 songs that Peso Pluma has in the Top 10, Karma rises to #56
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Post by 85la on Apr 23, 2023 11:00:20 GMT -5
Day 2 Streams: #8. (-4) Double Fantasy - 1,022,382 (-26.34%) #87. (-45) Alone - 404,969 (-35.09%) #164. (-77) Haegeum - 304,126 (-31.68%) AMG enters the Top 10, making it now 4 songs that Peso Pluma has in the Top 10, Karma rises to #56 Wow, he's really a phenomenon. I don't think I've ever seen this for a non-album bomb week. |
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Post by awkwardowl on Apr 23, 2023 12:16:16 GMT -5
Day 2 Streams: #8. (-4) Double Fantasy - 1,022,382 (-26.34%) #87. (-45) Alone - 404,969 (-35.09%) #164. (-77) Haegeum - 304,126 (-31.68%) AMG enters the Top 10, making it now 4 songs that Peso Pluma has in the Top 10, Karma rises to #56 Wow, he's really a phenomenon. I don't think I've ever seen this for a non-album bomb week. Post Malone had something like this with rockstar (as lead-single from his second album), I Fall Apart (Stoney) and Candy Paint (F8 soundtrack) inside top-5 in December 2017. |
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Post by tekkenguy on Apr 23, 2023 13:49:15 GMT -5
Ella Baila Sola is not a serious contender for #1 at the moment if itβs barely getting any airplay. Morgan will remain steady as his radio gains are offsetting his streaming losses, and even the latter looks to be stabilizing. Heβll be #1 for the next several weeks barring some big album bombs or superstar releases.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Apr 23, 2023 17:08:49 GMT -5
I just know there's a Bieber remix of Ella Baila Sola waiting to drop
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Post by tekkenguy on Apr 23, 2023 17:10:53 GMT -5
I just know there's a Bieber remix of Ella Baila Sola waiting to drop Why? Because he did Despacito? |
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Post by musiclife on Apr 23, 2023 18:31:32 GMT -5
Will Anti Hero get back into the top 10?
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Post by Mayman on Apr 23, 2023 18:54:19 GMT -5
Starboy is easily his worst album *second worst Kiss Land exists I'd recommend a revisit to Kiss Land then - because Kiss Land is great and is deserving of a spot among his best albums. Starboy is easily his worst album BBTM is pretty terrible outside of the singles (Earned It sucks though), Starboy is bloated and has a lot of filler but the highs are way higher than BBTM. But they are both pretty close to being his worst work in retrospective. Both albums are just a collection of songs, while his recent stuff like After Hours and Dawn FM are cohesive and full bodies of work. Completely agree. BBTM is kinda of a slog to get through at times. Starboy has grown on me over the years, the sequencing is great and I feel like every track is at the very least good, but definitely isn't as great as the two you mentioned. |
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Post by 85la on Apr 23, 2023 19:37:35 GMT -5
Ella Baila Sola is not a serious contender for #1 at the moment if itβs barely getting any airplay. Morgan will remain steady as his radio gains are offsetting his streaming losses, and even the latter looks to be stabilizing. Heβll be #1 for the next several weeks barring some big album bombs or superstar releases. EBS's prospects for #1 remind me a lot of We Don't Talk About Bruno, which many people initially thought would have no chance at #1 because of a lack of airplay, but we all know how that turned out. Because of that, I don't think we can rule EBS out, and I don't quite remember what Bruno's sales were like, but maybe the competition is still too stiff this time? |
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Post by tekkenguy on Apr 23, 2023 20:09:05 GMT -5
Ella Baila Sola is not a serious contender for #1 at the moment if itβs barely getting any airplay. Morgan will remain steady as his radio gains are offsetting his streaming losses, and even the latter looks to be stabilizing. Heβll be #1 for the next several weeks barring some big album bombs or superstar releases. EBS's prospects for #1 remind me a lot of We Don't Talk About Bruno, which many people initially thought would have no chance at #1 because of a lack of airplay, but we all know how that turned out. Because of that, I don't think we can rule EBS out, and I don't quite remember what Bruno's sales were like, but maybe the competition is still too stiff this time? Bruno was against way weaker competition. No other song from when it was #1 was nearly as big on streaming as Last Night is right now. The only other songs that got over 20 million streams while Bruno was #1 were Super Gremlin, Pushin P, and Surface Pressure, all of which had less than half of Last Nightβs radio airplay. All the big radio hits of the time, like Easy On Me, Heat Waves, and abc were getting well below 20m streams. And Last Night is literally getting more points right now than Bruno got at any point in its run. Yeah, Morgan will more likely than not block it. |
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Post by mms82 on Apr 23, 2023 20:12:03 GMT -5
I just know there's a Bieber remix of Ella Baila Sola waiting to drop Why? Because he did Despacito? He also has a track record of jumping on lesser known genre songs to get a big hit. I think his voice would work on the song, he would give the song some much needed exposure, and it would give him a big notch in his belt, especially during weird publicity. He also has 10,000 hours as a country #1 too, and hopped on a Meant To Be remix that never dropped |
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Post by tekkenguy on Apr 23, 2023 20:14:16 GMT -5
Why? Because he did Despacito? He also has a track record of jumping on lesser known genre songs to get a big hit. I think his voice would work on the song, he would give the song some much needed exposure, and it would give him a big notch in his belt, especially during weird publicity. He also has 10,000 hours as a country #1 too I remember he didnβt like doing Despacito because it was in Spanish. Iβd feel heβd be less inclined to do a traditional Mexican song than a Reggaeton one. |
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Post by macabyan on Apr 23, 2023 22:24:11 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure at this rate, Ella Baila Sola can challenge for #1 as early as the May 13 or May 20 charts even without radio, it's just growing THAT fast. Viva Mexico! π²π½
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Apr 23, 2023 22:53:26 GMT -5
*second worst Kiss Land exists I'd recommend a revisit to Kiss Land then - because Kiss Land is great and is deserving of a spot among his best albums. No |
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Post by tekkenguy on Apr 23, 2023 23:06:03 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure at this rate, Ella Baila Sola can challenge for #1 as early as the May 13 or May 20 charts even without radio, it's just growing THAT fast. Viva Mexico! π²π½ EBS is not going #1, and after Kill Bill week Morgan will likely have all of May to himself. Just next week alone it needs a 10 million stream lead to take #1 and LN is only getting bigger on radio each new week, only further raising the streaming threshold. |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Apr 23, 2023 23:41:13 GMT -5
Ella Baila Sola is not a serious contender for #1 at the moment if itβs barely getting any airplay. Morgan will remain steady as his radio gains are offsetting his streaming losses, and even the latter looks to be stabilizing. Heβll be #1 for the next several weeks barring some big album bombs or superstar releases. We've had several #1s at this point that had little to zero airplay |
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Post by rimetm on Apr 23, 2023 23:42:52 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure at this rate, Ella Baila Sola can challenge for #1 as early as the May 13 or May 20 charts even without radio, it's just growing THAT fast. Viva Mexico!Β π²π½Β EBS is not going #1, and after Kill Bill week Morgan will likely have all of May to himself. Just next week alone it needs a 10 million stream lead to take #1 and LN is only getting bigger on radio each new week, only further raising the streaming threshold. What youβre failing to notice is that the streaming for Last Night is beginning to slip, and if the point losses from that keep outpacing the radio gains (like the quoted prediction has happening for this tracking week), the threshold to overtake becomes smaller, not bigger. |
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Post by tekkenguy on Apr 24, 2023 0:01:34 GMT -5
Ella Baila Sola is not a serious contender for #1 at the moment if itβs barely getting any airplay. Morgan will remain steady as his radio gains are offsetting his streaming losses, and even the latter looks to be stabilizing. Heβll be #1 for the next several weeks barring some big album bombs or superstar releases. We've had several #1s at this point that had little to zero airplay Most of which were one-week wonder debuts or album bombs by popular artists. Not a random song from a fairly niche genre of Latino music that became #1 out of nowhere. Also they generally happened when the #1 scene was fairly weak. LN is much stronger. EBS is not going #1, and after Kill Bill week Morgan will likely have all of May to himself. Just next week alone it needs a 10 million stream lead to take #1 and LN is only getting bigger on radio each new week, only further raising the streaming threshold. What youβre failing to notice is that the streaming for Last Night is beginning to slip, and if the point losses from that keep outpacing the radio gains (like the quoted prediction has happening for this tracking week), the threshold to overtake becomes smaller, not bigger. We also donβt know if EBS continues to surge or if it starts to stabilize. I remember We Donβt Talk About Bruno peaked fairly quickly after its surge and trended downward afterwards. Also WDTAB roughly peaked at a roughly similar 39M number that EBS is set to reach this week. If it came out today, it would have been blocked by LN. |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Apr 24, 2023 0:17:20 GMT -5
We've had several #1s at this point that had little to zero airplay Most of which were one-week wonder debuts or album bombs by popular artists. Not a random song from a fairly niche genre of Latino music that became #1 out of nowhere. Also they generally happened when the #1 scene was fairly weak. LN is much stronger. What youβre failing to notice is that the streaming for Last Night is beginning to slip, and if the point losses from that keep outpacing the radio gains (like the quoted prediction has happening for this tracking week), the threshold to overtake becomes smaller, not bigger. We also donβt know if EBS continues to surge or if it starts to stabilize. I remember We Donβt Talk About Bruno peaked fairly quickly after its surge and trended downward afterwards. Also WDTAB roughly peaked at a roughly similar 39M number that EBS is set to reach this week. If it came out today, it would have been blocked by LN. Last Night with 300 points per week isn't indestructible. Also it being from unknown acts is rather irrelevant as there've been plenty of unknown acts who surged to the top on streams alone. Like we going to pretend The Box or drivers license were expected to be huge hits? Also, if we don't know if EBS will continue to surge or stabilize then shouldn't your predictions also be faulty? |
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Post by macabyan on Apr 24, 2023 0:22:34 GMT -5
We've had several #1s at this point that had little to zero airplay Most of which were one-week wonder debuts or album bombs by popular artists. Not a random song from a fairly niche genre of Latino music that became #1 out of nowhere. Also they generally happened when the #1 scene was fairly weak. LN is much stronger. What youβre failing to notice is that the streaming for Last Night is beginning to slip, and if the point losses from that keep outpacing the radio gains (like the quoted prediction has happening for this tracking week), the threshold to overtake becomes smaller, not bigger. We also donβt know if EBS continues to surge or if it starts to stabilize. I remember We Donβt Talk About Bruno peaked fairly quickly after its surge and trended downward afterwards. Also WDTAB roughly peaked at a roughly similar 39M number that EBS is set to reach this week. If it came out today, it would have been blocked by LN. I beg you please put aside your bias for Morgan and "Last Night", these are just everybody's predictions and observations. Whatever happens, happens. Touch some country grass and stop flooding the threads unnecessarily |
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