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Post by dajross6 on Jul 25, 2023 9:43:19 GMT -5
The fact this is going #1 on the Hot 100 next week was not something I had in my 2023 bingo card. I guess it will be cool to have the top three songs all being country though… Has that ever happened before? Top 3 songs on Hot 100 all being country. Nope, next week will be the first time with a giant lead (probably about 20%) over the #4 song. |
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Post by stormlover74 on Jul 25, 2023 10:09:56 GMT -5
Last night I drove my fast car through a small town 😄
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Post by Daenerys on Jul 25, 2023 17:48:34 GMT -5
I've wondered about the concept of there being a counter-clash, or a counter-culture movement in music before, and if we could ever eventually pinpoint it in specific songs or moments in music. To me I think this almost feels like a counter moment to Childish Gambino's 'This Is America' a little over 5 years ago. One of the rare cases of music hitting a cultural and socio-political protest kind of lens. There has been a shift and counter-shift that we are living today, and these two songs and moments seem to have characterized both subsets of views and had similar impact on the charts.
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Post by iHype. on Jul 25, 2023 21:21:25 GMT -5
I'm wondering now what mainstream Country artists are going to follow this and release MAGA-themed anthems and be outward with their political/cultural views.
Overall in Country music it was always about staying away from politics, or maybe talking about it slightly but trying not to truly cross any lines or become controversial. Now Jason just exposed that essentially you can only gain from this.
There's plenty of his peers that have identical views but never had the courage or desire to make it center in their music. Now they see him with a #1 hit, elevated status amongst his demographic, and an overall comeback to spotlight. All of this especially following Morgan's controversy in 2021, and the fact he's dominated ever since.
At this point it's almost a guaranteed beneficial career move now for a Country star to do something that outrages the liberals/left. We now are about to see who jumps on the proven formula.
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Post by Music Fan on Jul 26, 2023 1:57:21 GMT -5
I'm wondering now what mainstream Country artists are going to follow this and release MAGA-themed anthems and be outward with their political/cultural views. Overall in Country music it was always about staying away from politics, or maybe talking about it slightly but trying not to truly cross any lines or become controversial. Now Jason just exposed that essentially you can only gain from this. There's plenty of his peers that have identical views but never had the courage or desire to make it center in their music. Now they see him with a #1 hit, elevated status amongst his demographic, and an overall comeback to spotlight. All of this especially following Morgan's controversy in 2021, and the fact he's dominated ever since. At this point it's almost a guaranteed beneficial career move now for a Country star to do something that outrages the liberals/left. We now are about to see who jumps on the proven formula. I think you have to be more of a cemented country artist to do this. But even the many cemented big name country artists today benefit greatly from fans on both sides of the aisle. So, while they'll gain some hardcore conservatives, they'll lose the others. I'm thinking (male wise) people like Thomas Rhett, Jon Pardi, Dierks Bentley, Sam Hunt, Dustin Lynch, Luke Combs, Chris Stapleton, Cole Swindell, Luke Bryan. We've seen "smaller" artists like Riley Green voice his political affiliation and it's really done nothing for him. While I don't doubt others will try it, I don't think we'll see the same effect as Jason. |
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Jul 26, 2023 2:03:24 GMT -5
Luke Combs, Chris Stapleton, Cole Swindell, Luke Bryan. I think we all know where they stand politically... |
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Post by Music Fan on Jul 26, 2023 2:12:21 GMT -5
Luke Combs, Chris Stapleton, Cole Swindell, Luke Bryan. I think we all know where they stand politically... I'm not sure what you're referring to exactly, because not all of them seem to have the same political views. |
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Post by Sugar Rush on Jul 26, 2023 7:34:02 GMT -5
The number of Aldean fans who lack brain cells who say “the song and video aren’t offensive people just hate him because the media tells you so” is quite concerning.
Like I’m sure the correlation between high school drop out and how much of an Aldean fan is high, but the fact that this song is about to go #1 solely by the inbreds is a sad sad state.
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Post by stormlover74 on Jul 26, 2023 9:02:20 GMT -5
I'm wondering now what mainstream Country artists are going to follow this and release MAGA-themed anthems and be outward with their political/cultural views. Overall in Country music it was always about staying away from politics, or maybe talking about it slightly but trying not to truly cross any lines or become controversial. Now Jason just exposed that essentially you can only gain from this. There's plenty of his peers that have identical views but never had the courage or desire to make it center in their music. Now they see him with a #1 hit, elevated status amongst his demographic, and an overall comeback to spotlight. All of this especially following Morgan's controversy in 2021, and the fact he's dominated ever since. At this point it's almost a guaranteed beneficial career move now for a Country star to do something that outrages the liberals/left. We now are about to see who jumps on the proven formula. I think you have to be more of a cemented country artist to do this. But even the many cemented big name country artists today benefit greatly from fans on both sides of the aisle. So, while they'll gain some hardcore conservatives, they'll lose the others. I'm thinking (male wise) people like Thomas Rhett, Jon Pardi, Dierks Bentley, Sam Hunt, Dustin Lynch, Luke Combs, Chris Stapleton, Cole Swindell, Luke Bryan. We've seen "smaller" artists like Riley Green voice his political affiliation and it's really done nothing for him. While I don't doubt others will try it, I don't think we'll see the same effect as Jason. There's a dreadful song called I'm just saying by some guy named Austin Moody that hit the top 10 on iTunes briefly last week but has since plunged out of the top 100. It got little attention so it went away which is what would've happened to TTIAST |
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Post by musiclife on Jul 26, 2023 15:06:31 GMT -5
Luke Combs, Chris Stapleton, Cole Swindell, Luke Bryan. I think we all know where they stand politically... They all have different views though. Especially Luke Bryan who released a pro gay song. Listen to Most People Are Good. "I believe most people are good, and most mama's oughta qualify for sainthood, I believe most Friday nights look better under neon and stadium lights, I believe you love who you love ain't nothing you should ever be ashamed of, I believe this world ain't half as bad as it looks.. I believe most people are good." |
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Post by jab820 on Jul 27, 2023 12:29:03 GMT -5
I think we all know where they stand politically... They all have different views though. Especially Luke Bryan who released a pro gay song. Listen to Most People Are Good. "I believe most people are good, and most mama's oughta qualify for sainthood, I believe most Friday nights look better under neon and stadium lights, I believe you love who you love ain't nothing you should ever be ashamed of, I believe this world ain't half as bad as it looks.. I believe most people are good." And then he brought DeSantis on stage, possibly the most anti-LGBT governor in history. 2018 and 2023 are different worlds. |
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Post by dajross6 on Jul 27, 2023 14:09:07 GMT -5
The smart ones will always play to all sides, whether that's right-leaning, left-leaning, rock-leaning, pop-leaning, rap-leaning etc. Focusing only on the MAGA fans really typecasts an artist away from most of that list, thus losing out on streams/concert sales/digital sales. Consumption for the top part of the country chart today comes from cross-genre appeal which is why Last Night and Fast Car have dominated the Hot 100 during the highest consumption period of the year (summer). It would be really dumb to focus on just one slice of life and I'd expect the next single to be something a bit more 'center' to build momentum.
Of course Aldean can also go the Darryl Worley route and go all-in on military songs and quickly become an afterthought on country radio.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2023 16:39:16 GMT -5
Is Spotify ignoring this song? It’s not included in the Hot Country Playlist or the Top 50 songs playlist.
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Post by stormlover74 on Jul 27, 2023 18:15:09 GMT -5
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Post by carriefan15 on Jul 28, 2023 3:38:09 GMT -5
Last night I drove my fast car through a small town 😄 Sounds like quite the nightmare..I hope you’re ok! |
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Post by stormlover74 on Jul 28, 2023 9:50:59 GMT -5
Last night I drove my fast car through a small town 😄 Sounds like quite the nightmare..I hope you’re ok! It's ok Jesus took the wheel |
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Post by velaxti on Jul 28, 2023 9:52:46 GMT -5
I've wondered about the concept of there being a counter-clash, or a counter-culture movement in music before, and if we could ever eventually pinpoint it in specific songs or moments in music. To me I think this almost feels like a counter moment to Childish Gambino's 'This Is America' a little over 5 years ago. One of the rare cases of music hitting a cultural and socio-political protest kind of lens. There has been a shift and counter-shift that we are living today, and these two songs and moments seem to have characterized both subsets of views and had similar impact on the charts. I always felt like All About That Bass by Meghan Trainor was like a counter to Blurred Lines by Robin Thicke. |
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Post by stormlover74 on Jul 28, 2023 10:36:28 GMT -5
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Post by rsmatto on Jul 28, 2023 11:51:36 GMT -5
Nobody should be surprised by this. Those in the "silent majority" (as they put it) aren't nearly a majority in the USA. There was interest because of a controversy yet the song will end up peaking and perhaps not ever being a Gold single despite this massive rush the past week. |
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Post by BlueShades874 on Jul 28, 2023 12:16:50 GMT -5
Jason and his team knew exactly what they were doing from the very beginning. They knew this song and video would stir up controversy. They knew it would piss off the left, which pretty much seems to be the Aldeans' top priority these days. They knew it would bring him all this attention and thus propel the song to the top of the charts...and it worked. I find it funny how many people are defending this song and mocking the "snowflakes" for being "triggered" by it, but those same people were all worked up over a beer can just a few months ago and are raging mad over a Barbie movie. I'm just sick of it all. I just wish people had ignored this and not given him the attention he so desperately craves.
Also, it just breaks my heart what has happened to country music. It was a massive part of my life throughout my childhood in the 90s and throughout the better part of the 2010s. Now I can't even stand to listen to most of it. I know there are still amazing artists and amazing music out there, but when so many rising stars and so many huge stars are openly homophobic, transphobic and racist, and seem to thrive off pissing people off who aren't a gun-toting maga supporters, it just makes me feel like I have no place as a fan in country music anymore. So many times when I come across a country station anymore, all I can think is "This person probably thinks I don't have the right to exist as myself". It just makes me sad, especially since being a homophobic, transphobic, racist piece of trash just seems to help these people achieve even more success.
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Post by dbcdb on Jul 28, 2023 16:01:04 GMT -5
I used to really like reading this forum for a couple of reasons: 1) it always kept discussion to the music and avoided too much diversion into politics and polemic, and 2) it was relatively civilized or, at least, name calling was not par for the course. My how things have changed. This particular thread is just like any sad echo chamber of leftie ranting and posturing just like anywhere/everywhere on the internet -- there was a time when, even amidst the ever present liberal slant (always at odds with the mainstream of country music listeners, but never insufferable), this forum at least seemed to be populated by people with unique knowledge, insight, and above average IQs and skills of analysis of the country music world. No longer. Sad.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 28, 2023 16:06:48 GMT -5
This makes no sense because it debuted at #2 so how would this even possibly be a record it would break? Lol... |
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Post by raylatch98 on Jul 28, 2023 16:06:58 GMT -5
I used to really like reading this forum for a couple of reasons: 1) it always kept discussion to the music and avoided too much diversion into politics and polemic, and 2) it was relatively civilized or, at least, name calling was not par for the course. My how things have changed. This particular thread is just like any sad echo chamber of leftie ranting and posturing just like anywhere/everywhere on the internet -- there was a time when, even amidst the ever present liberal slant (always at odds with the mainstream of country music listeners, but never insufferable), this forum at least seemed to be populated by people with unique knowledge, insight, and above average IQs and skills of analysis of the country music world. No longer. Sad. I am sorry but if you don't like it you can leave. Also it is kind of hard to not talk about politics in regards to this song when the crux of it's sudden rise in popularity is due to the conservative nature of the lyrics and the music video itself. Also there are still plenty of people here with knowledge, insight, great IQs and skilled in talking about the country music world just fyi. |
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Post by mag on Jul 28, 2023 16:10:07 GMT -5
I used to really like reading this forum for a couple of reasons: 1) it always kept discussion to the music and avoided too much diversion into politics and polemic, and 2) it was relatively civilized or, at least, name calling was not par for the course. My how things have changed. This particular thread is just like any sad echo chamber of leftie ranting and posturing just like anywhere/everywhere on the internet -- there was a time when, even amidst the ever present liberal slant (always at odds with the mainstream of country music listeners, but never insufferable), this forum at least seemed to be populated by people with unique knowledge, insight, and above average IQs and skills of analysis of the country music world. No longer. Sad. I am sorry but if you don't like it you can leave. Also it is kind of hard to not talk about politics in regards to this song when the crux of it's sudden rise in popularity is due to the conservative nature of the lyrics and the music video itself. Also there are still plenty of people here with knowledge, insight, great IQs and skilled in talking about the country music world just fyi. Perfect example of the leftists: “If you don’t like it, leave. Only we can express what we like” |
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 28, 2023 16:12:14 GMT -5
I used to really like reading this forum for a couple of reasons: 1) it always kept discussion to the music and avoided too much diversion into politics and polemic, and 2) it was relatively civilized or, at least, name calling was not par for the course. My how things have changed. This particular thread is just like any sad echo chamber of leftie ranting and posturing just like anywhere/everywhere on the internet -- there was a time when, even amidst the ever present liberal slant (always at odds with the mainstream of country music listeners, but never insufferable), this forum at least seemed to be populated by people with unique knowledge, insight, and above average IQs and skills of analysis of the country music world. No longer. Sad. Interestingly, this is your second post in this thread thus far, and neither one has been you discussing anything related to the music. I am sorry but if you don't like it you can leave. Also it is kind of hard to not talk about politics in regards to this song when the crux of it's sudden rise in popularity is due to the conservative nature of the lyrics and the music video itself. Also there are still plenty of people here with knowledge, insight, great IQs and skilled in talking about the country music world just fyi. Perfect example of the leftists: “ If you don’t like it, leave. Only we can express what we like” That's a quote constantly used by far-right Conservatives the moment anyone mentions anything that's even an ounce critical of the United States, so yeah, let's not, lmao. |
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Post by raylatch98 on Jul 28, 2023 16:17:50 GMT -5
I used to really like reading this forum for a couple of reasons: 1) it always kept discussion to the music and avoided too much diversion into politics and polemic, and 2) it was relatively civilized or, at least, name calling was not par for the course. My how things have changed. This particular thread is just like any sad echo chamber of leftie ranting and posturing just like anywhere/everywhere on the internet -- there was a time when, even amidst the ever present liberal slant (always at odds with the mainstream of country music listeners, but never insufferable), this forum at least seemed to be populated by people with unique knowledge, insight, and above average IQs and skills of analysis of the country music world. No longer. Sad. Interestingly, this is your second post in this thread thus far, and neither one has been you discussing anything related to the music. Perfect example of the leftists: “ If you don’t like it, leave. Only we can express what we like” That's a quote constantly used by far-right Conservatives the moment anyone mentions anything that's even an ounce critical of the United States, so yeah, let's not, lmao. Sorry for phrasing it that way and getting the discussion off track in general. |
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Post by theoutsider on Jul 28, 2023 16:23:38 GMT -5
Jason and his team knew exactly what they were doing from the very beginning. They knew this song and video would stir up controversy. They knew it would piss off the left, which pretty much seems to be the Aldeans' top priority these days. They knew it would bring him all this attention and thus propel the song to the top of the charts...and it worked. I find it funny how many people are defending this song and mocking the "snowflakes" for being "triggered" by it, but those same people were all worked up over a beer can just a few months ago and are raging mad over a Barbie movie. I'm just sick of it all. I just wish people had ignored this and not given him the attention he so desperately craves. Also, it just breaks my heart what has happened to country music. It was a massive part of my life throughout my childhood in the 90s and throughout the better part of the 2010s. Now I can't even stand to listen to most of it. I know there are still amazing artists and amazing music out there, but when so many rising stars and so many huge stars are openly homophobic, transphobic and racist, and seem to thrive off pissing people off who aren't a gun-toting maga supporters, it just makes me feel like I have no place as a fan in country music anymore. So many times when I come across a country station anymore, all I can think is "This person probably thinks I don't have the right to exist as myself". It just makes me sad, especially since being a homophobic, transphobic, racist piece of trash just seems to help these people achieve even more success.
I don't understand your post ... you said that you enjoyed listening to Country Music especially in the 90's and through 2010 years but the further back we go the more Country Music was more conservative ( And I hate using this terminology ) through these eras. If it's purely from an artistic point of view, I understand your disappointment.
Kristen Hall the former member of Sugarland was fired up from Sugarland because she was lesbian (even if it was a decision of Mercury Nashville Records back then), Chely Wright was completely ignored since her coming out and many many examples.
Don't expect Aldean to release song named I Kiss a Boy ( and I Like It)  Country music remains the last bastion of a puritan America. |
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Post by mag on Jul 28, 2023 16:23:42 GMT -5
I used to really like reading this forum for a couple of reasons: 1) it always kept discussion to the music and avoided too much diversion into politics and polemic, and 2) it was relatively civilized or, at least, name calling was not par for the course. My how things have changed. This particular thread is just like any sad echo chamber of leftie ranting and posturing just like anywhere/everywhere on the internet -- there was a time when, even amidst the ever present liberal slant (always at odds with the mainstream of country music listeners, but never insufferable), this forum at least seemed to be populated by people with unique knowledge, insight, and above average IQs and skills of analysis of the country music world. No longer. Sad. Interestingly, this is your second post in this thread thus far, and neither one has been you discussing anything related to the music. Perfect example of the leftists: “ If you don’t like it, leave. Only we can express what we like” That's a quote constantly used by far-right Conservatives the moment anyone mentions anything that's even an ounce critical of the United States, so yeah, let's not, lmao. Let’s not what? Country music has an identity and you can’t change that. You can’t force people to believe/accept whatever they want to believe. If you don’t like that song, listen to another one, or another artist |
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Post by matty005 on Jul 28, 2023 16:50:34 GMT -5
Interestingly, this is your second post in this thread thus far, and neither one has been you discussing anything related to the music. That's a quote constantly used by far-right Conservatives the moment anyone mentions anything that's even an ounce critical of the United States, so yeah, let's not, lmao. Let’s not what? Country music has an identity and you can’t change that. You can’t force people to believe/accept whatever they want to believe. If you don’t like that song, listen to another one, or another artist Legit you tell Ray you're all up in arms that he said if you don't like this message board you can leave. Then you go right back in YOUR NEXT POST and tell someone, "if you don't like a song, listen to something else." You can't have it both ways, kiddo. Edit: for a lot of people (including people here) just them wanting to live their life is being attacked. that is not, "politics." If JA had a song about tax cuts or more funding for schooling, that is politics. When people are ANTI certain humans, you don't get to play the, "politics card." |
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 28, 2023 16:51:10 GMT -5
Interestingly, this is your second post in this thread thus far, and neither one has been you discussing anything related to the music. That's a quote constantly used by far-right Conservatives the moment anyone mentions anything that's even an ounce critical of the United States, so yeah, let's not, lmao. Let’s not what? Country music has an identity and you can’t change that. You can’t force people to believe/accept whatever they want to believe. If you don’t like that song, listen to another one, or another artist Let's not pretend like "If you don't like it, leave" is a staunchly leftist concept. raylatch98 apologized for how he misspoke, but you immediately jumped on the phrase and tried to twist things to fit a certain narrative. I say with utmost confidence that "If you don't like it, leave" is uttered with far more frequency by Conservative lips than it is by Liberal ones. It's constantly used by the most patriotic and emblazoned right-wingers who think any critique of America is un-American. All that besides the point, nobody is forcing you (or anybody here) to do anything. This is a music discussion forum and if anyone has to drop an announcement that they no longer feel like the forum caters to their enjoyment, then they don't have to be here. So while Ray could've used better words with how he approached the situation, he wasn't entirely wrong. |
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