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Post by BlueShades874 on Jul 28, 2023 17:03:29 GMT -5
Jason and his team knew exactly what they were doing from the very beginning. They knew this song and video would stir up controversy. They knew it would piss off the left, which pretty much seems to be the Aldeans' top priority these days. They knew it would bring him all this attention and thus propel the song to the top of the charts...and it worked. I find it funny how many people are defending this song and mocking the "snowflakes" for being "triggered" by it, but those same people were all worked up over a beer can just a few months ago and are raging mad over a Barbie movie. I'm just sick of it all. I just wish people had ignored this and not given him the attention he so desperately craves. Also, it just breaks my heart what has happened to country music. It was a massive part of my life throughout my childhood in the 90s and throughout the better part of the 2010s. Now I can't even stand to listen to most of it. I know there are still amazing artists and amazing music out there, but when so many rising stars and so many huge stars are openly homophobic, transphobic and racist, and seem to thrive off pissing people off who aren't a gun-toting maga supporters, it just makes me feel like I have no place as a fan in country music anymore. So many times when I come across a country station anymore, all I can think is "This person probably thinks I don't have the right to exist as myself". It just makes me sad, especially since being a homophobic, transphobic, racist piece of trash just seems to help these people achieve even more success. I don't understand your post ... you said that you enjoyed listening to Country Music especially in the 90's and through 2010 years but the further back we go the more Country Music was more conservative ( And I hate using this terminology ) through these eras. If it's purely from an artistic point of view, I understand your disappointment. Kristen Hall the former member of Sugarland was fired up from Sugarland because she was lesbian (even if it was a decision of Mercury Nashville Records back then), Chely Wright was completely ignored since her coming out and many many examples. Don't expect Aldean to release song named I Kiss a Boy ( and I Like It)  Country music remains the last bastion of a puritan America. A lot of it has to do with the fact that I was just a kid in the 90s, and I hold on to so many nostalgic memories when I hear songs from that time. I'm sure I would feel differently if I were the 30 something gay adult that I am now in the 90s. Hell, I didn't really become interested in politics at all until the I was several years into my 20s, and can even remember a time in my early 20s when I knew I was gay, yet was vocally against same sex marriage because I lived in a small town and knew that if I was out and openly supported same sex marriage, I could risk losing so many things. Being an openly gay person? Yeah, try that in a small town, Jason. It often doesn't go very well. I'm sure plenty of artists I enjoy listening to from the 90s have similar problematic views, but they don't go out of their way to make a show of it. Now you have artists openly putting their homophobia on full display, social media is showing us how much some of these artists despise the LGBT+ community, and it's just extremely disappointing. |
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Post by stormlover74 on Jul 28, 2023 19:07:50 GMT -5
This makes no sense because it debuted at #2 so how would this even possibly be a record it would break? Lol... Most songs that take huge drops from number 1 debut there. This one did not, it will climb to #1 in its 2nd week then take a huge drop. The biggest for a non #1 debut song |
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Post by pnobelysk on Jul 29, 2023 9:34:21 GMT -5
Nobody should be surprised by this. Those in the "silent majority" (as they put it) aren't nearly a majority in the USA. There was interest because of a controversy yet the song will end up peaking and perhaps not ever being a Gold single despite this massive rush the past week. Iâm not rooting for this at all, but when it comes to whether this will be gold I think itâs almost guaranteed. This has outsold flowers and the most recently numbers I have for flowers is 380k. Once you add streaming Iâm sure this will hit gold. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2023 11:40:25 GMT -5
Is it still looking like âTTIASTâ, âFCâ, âLNâ will be 1-3 on the hot 100 this coming week?
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Post by stormlover74 on Jul 29, 2023 18:02:15 GMT -5
Is it still looking like âTTIASTâ, âFCâ, âLNâ will be 1-3 on the hot 100 this coming week? Yes but last night 2 fast car 3 |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2023 19:41:45 GMT -5
Is it still looking like âTTIASTâ, âFCâ, âLNâ will be 1-3 on the hot 100 this coming week? Yes but last night 2 fast car 3 Thanks. Pretty cool this is the first time ever the top 3 will be country. |
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 30, 2023 11:56:14 GMT -5
Yes but last night 2 fast car 3 Thanks. Pretty cool this is the first time ever the top 3 will be country. I'm surprised that didn't happen during the Urban Cowboy Era (1980-1984). Country was all over the place on the Hot 100. |
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Post by zaclord đ on Jul 30, 2023 13:45:42 GMT -5
I used to really like reading this forum for a couple of reasons: 1) it always kept discussion to the music and avoided too much diversion into politics and polemic, and 2) it was relatively civilized or, at least, name calling was not par for the course. My how things have changed. This particular thread is just like any sad echo chamber of leftie ranting and posturing just like anywhere/everywhere on the internet -- there was a time when, even amidst the ever present liberal slant (always at odds with the mainstream of country music listeners, but never insufferable), this forum at least seemed to be populated by people with unique knowledge, insight, and above average IQs and skills of analysis of the country music world. No longer. Sad.You can't complain about name calling in one breath and then in the next say posters here no longer have above average IQs among the other lacking qualities you claim we used to have. I have more thoughts about this politics conversation, but it's nothing that people haven't brought up in this thread and numerous other threads in the country forum over the past year or so. Being against gun violence and racism (and media and "art" that glorify them) and generally wanting everyone to be able to live their lives without fear of being harmed should not be political - conservatives make these topics political. So the complaining about giving a racist transphobic artist like Jason a platform and letting him (and this awful song regardless of the music video or the glorification of violence in some of the lyrics) get a hit out of this will continue. |
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Jul 30, 2023 18:34:01 GMT -5
The main issue is that country music listeners trend heavily conservative, so this is getting that ârally around the flagâ type effect. No matter what someone like Jason or Morgan or Luke or whoever does, the fans will be behind them 10000%. In contrast, someone like Maren or Kelsea speaks out and their career is immediately snuffed out. Itâs honestly very disheartening, but not surprising.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 31, 2023 18:27:12 GMT -5
Not a surprise, but Jason Aldean has topped both Hot Country Songs and Hot 100 charts.
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Post by Sugar Rush on Aug 1, 2023 0:10:25 GMT -5
Not a surprise, but Jason Aldean has topped both Hot Country Songs and Hot 100 charts. So disgusting that racism sells so easily. |
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Post by theoutsider on Aug 1, 2023 1:16:14 GMT -5
Well I'm happy for Aldean and Country Music topping the charts in general but unfortunately it's not the best Aldean song (excluding all the contrversy around this song).
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Post by theoutsider on Aug 1, 2023 1:17:05 GMT -5
Not a surprise, but Jason Aldean has topped both Hot Country Songs and Hot 100 charts. So disgusting that racism sells so easily. Don't be surprised and it's not finished yet because it'll be nominated for the ACM and CMA Awards as Best Song and Single of the year. |
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 1, 2023 1:21:26 GMT -5
So disgusting that racism sells so easily. Don't be surprised and it's not finished yet because it'll be nominated for the ACM and CMA Awards as Best Song and Single of the year. Highly doubt that, lol. Jason Aldean doesn't exactly get nominated for awards that often these days and I can't imagine the industry giving this song nods in categories like that. |
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Post by theoutsider on Aug 1, 2023 1:23:15 GMT -5
Don't be surprised and it's not finished yet because it'll be nominated for the ACM and CMA Awards as Best Song and Single of the year. Highly doubt that, lol. Jason Aldean doesn't exactly get nominated for awards that often these days and I can't imagine the industry giving this song nods in categories like that. Wait and See. |
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Post by matty005 on Aug 1, 2023 5:04:26 GMT -5
Highly doubt that, lol. Jason Aldean doesn't exactly get nominated for awards that often these days and I can't imagine the industry giving this song nods in categories like that. Wait and See. Your last prediction was that Tim McGraw's "Standing Room Only," would go to #1 in 12 weeks. How'd that work out for you? |
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Post by theoutsider on Aug 1, 2023 6:01:55 GMT -5
Your last prediction was that Tim McGraw's "Standing Room Only," would go to #1 in 12 weeks. How'd that work out for you? Nice to know that I have a follower  |
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 1, 2023 14:30:55 GMT -5
Highly doubt that, lol. Jason Aldean doesn't exactly get nominated for awards that often these days and I can't imagine the industry giving this song nods in categories like that. Wait and See. Welp, "Try That" apparently isn't in contention at the CMAs. Crystal ball must be cloudy. 𼴠|
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I love that my expressing nostalgia for a time when this forum stuck to the music and wasn't a hyper-political echo chamber was met not with reflection, or discussion of the music, but by sanctimonious doubling down and much, much more of the same. For that reason and literally no other -- I don't care for this song one little bit -- I am utterly delighted that this song has been launched into the stratosphere. It is impossible to overstate the fraction of this success that can be attributed to the prattling superiority of those who behave like the self-congratulatory, right-on mob of virtue that so dominates this forum. You did this. Congratulations. Your beloved Trumpy is about to be indicted for the 3rd time this week. How you doing? |
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Post by Darkest Hour on Aug 1, 2023 19:47:18 GMT -5
Tbf, the voting for first round ballot was closed on July 14th, which is before the controversy. |
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 1, 2023 19:51:19 GMT -5
Love that the guy once again chose to talk about the political affiliations and intelligence of the Pulse board members instead of the song, going against his own original decree that we've all strayed too far from the discussion of music, then promptly deleted his own message. The "not me, YOU" vibe is strong with this one.  Tbf, the voting for first round ballot was closed on July 14th, which is before the controversy. Still, he said he was confident that it would be nominated... after it had already been out of the running. |
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Post by bboat11 on Aug 2, 2023 4:10:38 GMT -5
Unfortunately, political discussions are going to naturally go hand-in-hand with this song, because it is inherently making some kind of social/political commentary that is naturally going to bring certain topics to the forefront of the conversation. But let it not be forgotten that JASON is the one who made this whole situation political. It's not the fault of over-sensitive liberal snowflakes crying politics over something that wasn't intended to be political, or whoever else his fans feel like blaming. The general public is merely responding to the message that he put out there for them to respond to. And if you think he is a victim in all this, you are as deluded as a person can be. He is getting EXACTLY what he wanted. Free publicity, chart clout, and a TON of money.
That being said, I am going to give ONE friendly reminder that this is not a politics forum, and this thread is not the place to have lengthy political discussions. People follow these threads to talk about music, chart stats, etc. Some of y'all seem to have no actual purpose for being here besides making everyone else feel uncomfortable, and that is not okay. However, like I said earlier, this song cannot be completely separated from politics because its underlying purpose is inherently political. So, responding to the points that are made in the song itself is perfectly fine, as well as responding to any news around the song and its footprint of controversy. What is NOT allowed is teasing other members for their political beliefs, or dragging unrelated political topics into the discussion.
Now that that is out of the way, expect that from this point forward, any attempts to engage with other people inappropriately or derail the thread with unrelated rants will result in warnings and suspensions.
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Post by theoutsider on Aug 2, 2023 7:35:09 GMT -5
Love that the guy once again chose to talk about the political affiliations and intelligence of the Pulse board members instead of the song, going against his own original decree that we've all strayed too far from the discussion of music, then promptly deleted his own message. The "not me, YOU" vibe is strong with this one. Tbf, the voting for first round ballot was closed on July 14th, which is before the controversy. Still, he said he was confident that it would be nominated... after it had already been out of the running. Yes and I persist for 2024 CMA's. |
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Post by Optical Apex on Aug 4, 2023 1:56:08 GMT -5
At this point, this song will almost certainly be on the Year End Hot 100 for 2023. Should I expect this to almost certainly be #100 on the Year End Rankdown when it happens?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2023 11:38:58 GMT -5
Another Friday has come and Spotify still hasnât added this to the âHot Country Playlistâ lol
Itâs the number 1 song on the hot 100 but that doesnât mean itâs a âHot Country Songâ? đ
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Post by collinkottke on Aug 4, 2023 11:49:23 GMT -5
Another Friday has come and Spotify still hasnât added this to the âHot Country Playlistâ lol Itâs the number 1 song on the hot 100 but that doesnât mean itâs a âHot Country Songâ? đ Spotify virtue signaling That's not how playlisting works. Amazon and Apple don't have the song on their primary country playlists either. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2023 12:08:04 GMT -5
Another Friday has come and Spotify still hasnât added this to the âHot Country Playlistâ lol Itâs the number 1 song on the hot 100 but that doesnât mean itâs a âHot Country Songâ? đ Spotify virtue signaling That's not how playlisting works. Amazon and Apple don't have the song on their primary country playlists either. For the same reason Iâm sure. Fast Car & Last Night are both on it and then 20 artists Iâve never heard of. They also added the new Stapleton song the day it was released. Theyâre 100% not adding it and itâs pretty obvious why that is. Donât be naive. |
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Post by collinkottke on Aug 4, 2023 12:22:46 GMT -5
That's not how playlisting works. Amazon and Apple don't have the song on their primary country playlists either. For the same reason Iâm sure. Fast Car & Last Night are both on it and then 20 artists Iâve never heard of. They also added the new Stapleton song the day it was released. Theyâre 100% not adding it and itâs pretty obvious why that is. Donât be naive. Yes, it is pretty obvious why... BBR hasn't paid to have it playlisted. :) |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2023 12:37:11 GMT -5
For the same reason Iâm sure. Fast Car & Last Night are both on it and then 20 artists Iâve never heard of. They also added the new Stapleton song the day it was released. Theyâre 100% not adding it and itâs pretty obvious why that is. Donât be naive. Yes, it is pretty obvious why... BBR hasn't paid to have it playlisted. :)  Lainey Wilson & Dustin Lynch are on the playlist. Try again. |
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Post by matty005 on Aug 4, 2023 13:13:24 GMT -5
Another Friday has come and Spotify still hasnât added this to the âHot Country Playlistâ lol Itâs the number 1 song on the hot 100 but that doesnât mean itâs a âHot Country Songâ? đ Spotify virtue signaling Lol dude. It's not different that the, "virtue signaling" others have done to make this song go to the top of the charts. |
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