Billboard Hot 100: 07/15/2023

[HolidayGuy]

"Last Night" has been pretty dominant in streaming, and has crossed over beyond country radio. The stats clearly show why it's dominated for as long as it has. it may not "feel" like it "deserves" it, though it unquestionably does.

[Ivy Leegue™]

Jul 7, 2023 22:22:03 GMT -5 neel said:

I actually gone and listen to it for the first time and…………seriously THIS is the song that will soon challenge Old Town Road? (For some reason or at least to me the guitar sounds distorted). Other than that, just another boring country-trap song made by Morgy. At least it's not as awful as "You Proof".

There is zero trap in Last Night.

[Ling-Ling]

Y'all, I know we love Lil Nas X and we wanna see the gays win, but "Old Town Road" was straight trash, lmao. "Last Night" is mid AF, you'll get no arguments from me. But to imply it's lack of dynamism/perceived quality should prevent it from breaking records doesn't hold water when so many of the actual record holders are the textbook definition of "eh!".

It's the right song, by the right artist at just the right time with the right amount of points. Nothing more, nothing less.

[wavey.]

Look..

[jasper0102]

[eagle27]

Cruel Summer is just insane. I don’t see it not going number one without a massive release blocking it given its streaming and radio trajectory.

[gs]

Cruel Summer is still WAY behind Last Night... even if it had the same radio as Last Night (75M+), and including its current streaming boost, it'd still only be around 230 pts. A big/viral music video at a minimum is needed in a month or so, then maybe it can be a Bad Habit-like weak #1 once Last Night weakens.

[Taylor.]

[kindofbiased]

I know the bigger stories are Vampire and Cruel Summer but I'm really glad to see fukumean in the top 10 too, Gunna's been through so much shit over the past year and he deserves the success

[kcdawg13]

Jul 8, 2023 0:41:34 GMT -5 lazer said:

But seriously, what makes LN worthy of spending 13 weeks at #1? The only reasons are the lack of competition and country fans migrating to streaming services. There is no key element that makes LN stand out from the rest.

I don't like Last Night, I think it's generic and boring and has no flow. HOWEVER this point makes no sense, how do you decide which songs are worthy of 13 weeks at #1? Last Night has been consistently #1 on Spotify for months, people are listening to it even though I personally don't understand the appeal of it. The general public/streaming audience deemed it worthy of #1, which is why it's sat for so long even with fierce competition from an A-list pop star like Olivia Rodrigo. 

This isn't a Butter situation where a bunch of stans are artificially inflating the sales to keep the track #1 despite having no streaming and radio, Last Night is actually a huge streaming hit. That's what I love about chart watching, it's just pure stats, no opinions. Songs that I don't like can keep #1 for 13 weeks and I just have to deal with it.

[neel]

Jul 8, 2023 8:46:52 GMT -5 Ivy Leegue™ said:

Jul 7, 2023 22:22:03 GMT -5 neel said:

I actually gone and listen to it for the first time and…………seriously THIS is the song that will soon challenge Old Town Road? (For some reason or at least to me the guitar sounds distorted). Other than that, just another boring country-trap song made by Morgy. At least it's not as awful as "You Proof".

There is zero trap in Last Night.

There's semi-trap/generic "pop" song percussion within the song. 

[neel]

Jul 8, 2023 13:52:48 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

Jul 8, 2023 0:41:34 GMT -5 lazer said:

But seriously, what makes LN worthy of spending 13 weeks at #1? The only reasons are the lack of competition and country fans migrating to streaming services. There is no key element that makes LN stand out from the rest.

I don't like Last Night, I think it's generic and boring and has no flow. HOWEVER this point makes no sense, how do you decide which songs are worthy of 13 weeks at #1? Last Night has been consistently #1 on Spotify for months, people are listening to it even though I personally don't understand the appeal of it. The general public/streaming audience deemed it worthy of #1, which is why it's sat for so long even with fierce competition from an A-list pop star like Olivia Rodrigo. 

This isn't a Butter situation where a bunch of stans are artificially inflating the sales to keep the track #1 despite having no streaming and radio, Last Night is actually a huge streaming hit. That's what I love about chart watching, it's just pure stats, no opinions. Songs that I don't like can keep #1 for 13 weeks and I just have to deal with it.

I agree but then again this song is about to join the big 14 week hits ("Candle in The Wind", "I Will Always Love", "Uptown Funk" and etc) that have largely dominant pop culture since 1992. Climb over Harry then meet up with Mariah and Luis Fonsi with the former being the biggest song of the 90s and we all know about "Despacito" global dominance and impact during the summer of 2017. Before it begins it's 17th, 18th then ties probably the biggest pop culture phenomenon of the last 5 years. Being generic and boring won't hold up well when we look back at "Last Night" holding the "longest running No. 1 ever" title in the future. Although maybe it'll give us more on the urban/rural divide in pop culture.

[eagle27]

Sometimes songs just get exposed to enough of the right people that they catch on to explode into big hits. It’s basically the tipping point and how all trends diffuse through large groups. We just saw how Flowers just unexpectedly blew up basically the same way even when many felt it didn’t ‘deserve’ to be bigger than Midnight Sky.

Also the urban rural divide is growing in politics so it’s not surprising that it’s manifesting itself in music. Same reason people are surprised by Last Night’s success is the reason people are surprised by certain presidents being elected.

[SPRΞΞ]

you guys think Last Night is generic and boring, yet in the same sentence want Vampire and Cruel Summer to be #1, lol.

[85la]

Jul 8, 2023 14:41:52 GMT -5 SPRΞΞ said:

you guys think Last Night is generic and boring, yet in the same sentence want Vampire and Cruel Summer to be #1, lol.

Music is subjective, but if you think Vampire and Cruel Summer are generic and boring, you would be greatly in the minority.

[Music Fan]

Let’s be honest, people are calling Last Night on this thread “boring and generic” because it’s by a country artist they personally don’t like. Taylor singing a similar song would be a “lyrical genius.”

The fact is Last Night is one of the biggest songs of the decade — whether or not you personally have listened to it. Sure the charts are “weak,” but he’s been consistently at 300 points for weeks, beating out the second place by over 50 points. He’s been dominating streaming, digital, AND radio, without being propelled by stans. Facts are facts.

[Ivy Leegue™]

Jul 8, 2023 14:16:39 GMT -5 neel said:

Jul 8, 2023 13:52:48 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

I don't like Last Night, I think it's generic and boring and has no flow. HOWEVER this point makes no sense, how do you decide which songs are worthy of 13 weeks at #1? Last Night has been consistently #1 on Spotify for months, people are listening to it even though I personally don't understand the appeal of it. The general public/streaming audience deemed it worthy of #1, which is why it's sat for so long even with fierce competition from an A-list pop star like Olivia Rodrigo. 

This isn't a Butter situation where a bunch of stans are artificially inflating the sales to keep the track #1 despite having no streaming and radio, Last Night is actually a huge streaming hit. That's what I love about chart watching, it's just pure stats, no opinions. Songs that I don't like can keep #1 for 13 weeks and I just have to deal with it.

I agree but then again this song is about to join the big 14 week hits ("Candle in The Wind", "I Will Always Love", "Uptown Funk" and etc) that have largely dominant pop culture since 1992. Climb over Harry then meet up with Mariah and Luis Fonsi with the former being the biggest song of the 90s and we all know about "Despacito" global dominance and impact during the summer of 2017. Before it begins it's 17th, 18th then ties probably the biggest pop culture phenomenon of the last 5 years. Being generic and boring won't hold up well when we look back at "Last Night" holding the "longest running No. 1 ever" title in the future. Although maybe it'll give us more on the urban/rural divide in pop culture.

Please refrain from double posting, as it is against the rules here. You can edit your previous post, if you have something to add to the discussion. Thanks!

[wavey.]

Like I mentioned before, he hasn't missed a beat ever since that "incident". Good for him!😃


(and yes I'll be petty because I'm blk and he should've never said that shxt but it is what it is!)

That being said, I still love the charts overall.

[tituscat]

Last Night has been at the top of Spotify for months so you can’t say this song doesn’t deserve to be number 1 for 13 weeks. A lot of people are listening to this song. Also it’s not only country fans listening to this song. I’m not a country fan and I like this song. I don’t understand all the hate for this song on here.

[gabe]

Jul 8, 2023 15:42:21 GMT -5 Ivy Leegue™ said:

Jul 8, 2023 14:16:39 GMT -5 neel said:

I agree but then again this song is about to join the big 14 week hits ("Candle in The Wind", "I Will Always Love", "Uptown Funk" and etc) that have largely dominant pop culture since 1992. Climb over Harry then meet up with Mariah and Luis Fonsi with the former being the biggest song of the 90s and we all know about "Despacito" global dominance and impact during the summer of 2017. Before it begins it's 17th, 18th then ties probably the biggest pop culture phenomenon of the last 5 years. Being generic and boring won't hold up well when we look back at "Last Night" holding the "longest running No. 1 ever" title in the future. Although maybe it'll give us more on the urban/rural divide in pop culture.

Please refrain from double posting, as it is against the rules here. You can edit your previous post, if you have something to add to the discussion. Thanks!

girl if ur worried about double posting u should be here for the onslaught of Gary charts...

[musiclife]

Last Night is a great song. I have zero issues with it doing well. However, I'm glad Olivia is getting a week in.

[shadowthehedgehogfan]

Last Night is gonna be the kind of megahit that becomes semi-forgotten after 10-15 years. like I Love You Always Forever, All For You, Nobody's Supposed to Be Here, or Dead & Gone

[thegreatdivine]

Jul 8, 2023 15:37:09 GMT -5 Music Fan said:

Let’s be honest, people are calling Last Night on this thread “boring and generic” because it’s by a country artist they personally don’t like. Taylor singing a similar song would be a “lyrical genius.”

The fact is Last Night is one of the biggest songs of the decade — whether or not you personally have listened to it. Sure the charts are “weak,” but he’s been consistently at 300 points for weeks, beating out the second place by over 50 points. He’s been dominating streaming, digital, AND radio, without being propelled by stans. Facts are facts.

If Taylor wrote Last Night, her stans and critics alike would be hailing it as the greatest songwriting bit of the decade thus far and another pointer to her lyrical prowess but because it's by Morgan Wallen, it's somehow such a terrible song that they can't even fathom how so many people enjoy the song lmao. I don't even think the song is that great but from a first listen, it is clear to see why it's such a hit and everyone harping on and on about how terrible the song is while hailing other songs that aren't much better than it as infinitely better, expose how disingenuous they are. And frankly, it has gotten exhausting seeing people on here complain about Morgan Wallen's presence on the charts every single week. It doesn't matter how any of us feel about him, the man isn't going anywhere so deal with it.

I've also had my bit to say about how stale and boring the charts have been in general but the heavy-hitters are either not dropping or the music they're dropping isn't sticking with audiences, so it is what it is, I guess. 

[shadowthehedgehogfan]

if Taylor wrote it, the instrumental would at least good. i mean i don't think Last Night is terrible, certainly not his worst. It's listenable, but abysmally boring.

i just think he took the wrong lessons from You Proof.

[Choco]

Ah yeah, the "Pulse just hates this because it's not a pop lady" obligatory posts.

I can come back later to thread, carry on.

[thegreatdivine]

Jul 8, 2023 16:26:07 GMT -5 shadowthehedgehogfan said:

if Taylor wrote it, the instrumental would at least good. i mean i don't think Last Night is terrible, certainly not his worst. It's listenable, but abysmally boring.

i just think he took the wrong lessons from You Proof.

We all listened to Midnights (which is littered with some of the most mediocre production of Taylor's entire discography, as well as more than a handful of boring songs) so, no. 

[shadowthehedgehogfan]

Jul 8, 2023 16:57:58 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Jul 8, 2023 16:26:07 GMT -5 shadowthehedgehogfan said:

if Taylor wrote it, the instrumental would at least good. i mean i don't think Last Night is terrible, certainly not his worst. It's listenable, but abysmally boring.

i just think he took the wrong lessons from You Proof.

We all listened to Midnights (which is littered with some of the most mediocre production of Taylor's entire discography, as well as more than a handful of boring songs) so, no. 

which songs on midnights? like exactly. Because aside from Vigilante sh!t, i don't even know what you're referring to

[firefox]

Jul 8, 2023 11:26:13 GMT -5 Taylor. said:

Fall Out Boy released a new song????

[85la]

Jul 8, 2023 15:37:09 GMT -5 Music Fan said:

Let’s be honest, people are calling Last Night on this thread “boring and generic” because it’s by a country artist they personally don’t like. Taylor singing a similar song would be a “lyrical genius.”

Not so with me. As I've said before, though I am overall not a huge fan of him, there are other songs of his I like much better that I wouldn't be as surprised if they were doing as well.

Jul 8, 2023 16:07:56 GMT -5 tituscat said:

Last Night has been at the top of Spotify for months so you can’t say this song doesn’t deserve to be number 1 for 13 weeks. A lot of people are listening to this song. Also it’s not only country fans listening to this song. I’m not a country fan and I like this song. I don’t understand all the hate for this song on here.

Not many are saying that it doesn't "deserve" to be #1 or that the stats don't support this. Clearly there is demand for it, and many people like and want to listen to it. If you personally like the song that's your own opinion as well, but many of us don't and see nothing special about it, so we are just expressing our puzzlement and bewilderment as to why it's stayed at #1 for so long.

[jenglisbe]

Jul 8, 2023 15:37:09 GMT -5 Music Fan said:

Let’s be honest, people are calling Last Night on this thread “boring and generic” because it’s by a country artist they personally don’t like. Taylor singing a similar song would be a “lyrical genius.”

The fact is Last Night is one of the biggest songs of the decade — whether or not you personally have listened to it. Sure the charts are “weak,” but he’s been consistently at 300 points for weeks, beating out the second place by over 50 points. He’s been dominating streaming, digital, AND radio, without being propelled by stans. Facts are facts.

These are two separate points. A song can be big (and "LN is big) but still be generic; those are two different concepts. The reason no one is saying it's evidence of lyrical genius is because it's not. Please point me to the original/clever lyrics in the song. IMO it's full of cliches (seeing tail lights in the dust, it not being their night/kiss, letting the alcohol do the talking).