Billboard Hot 100: 07/15/2023

[hitsrus]

Streaming Songs most weeks #1
20 Old Town Road
18 AIWFCIY
16 Despacito
15 Last Night
14 Panda -- Rockstar (Malone)

So for those who wish streaming be worth more, be careful what you wish for!

[iHype.]

Jul 5, 2023 13:52:18 GMT -5 hitsrus said:

Streaming Songs most weeks #1
20 Old Town Road
18 AIWFCIY
16 Despacito
15 Last Night
14 Panda -- Rockstar (Malone)

So for those who wish streaming be worth more, be careful what you wish for!

Blinding Lights and Flowers have spent more weeks #1 on radio than any song has spent #1 on streaming this decade.

But regardless whether streaming weighs a little more or less, it doesn't really change anything. Every single #1 this year aside from Like Crazy, has been huge on both streaming/radio. Tinkering with the ratio of streams/radio a bit wouldn't have changed much in the grand scheme of #1s this year. 

Last Night is up to #2 on radio and has been #1 on streaming. It's obviously doing huge on both metrics and thus it makes sense it's going to be hard for Olivia to topple it after week 1 until her radio support goes up and that is just logical. A song doing good on two important metrics is always going to have the advantage over doing good on one important metric at the moment unless it is just pulling absolutely colossal numbers on that one metric to make up any difference. 

[thegreatdivine]

Love him or hate him, Morgan Wallen is inevitable. 2023 is clearly his year. He'll end up with one of the biggest #1 hits of all time at this rate.

[Italian Barb]

Jul 5, 2023 14:20:10 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Love him or hate him, Morgan Wallen is inevitable. 2023 is clearly his year. He'll end up with one of the biggest #1 hits of all time at this rate.

Yass! Go Morgan. Show that little girl Olivia who's the strongest.

[avamaxstan]

Jul 5, 2023 14:35:19 GMT -5 Italian Barb said:

Jul 5, 2023 14:20:10 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Love him or hate him, Morgan Wallen is inevitable. 2023 is clearly his year. He'll end up with one of the biggest #1 hits of all time at this rate.

Yass! Go Morgan. Show that little girl Olivia who's the strongest.

I'm not sure which part of this post is most toxic.

OT: I'm not surprised the race has tightened as Morgan surely got a boost from July 4th. Even if she does edge out for #1, it'll only be there for one week.

[HamedM1 💔]

Jul 5, 2023 14:35:19 GMT -5 Italian Barb said:

Jul 5, 2023 14:20:10 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Love him or hate him, Morgan Wallen is inevitable. 2023 is clearly his year. He'll end up with one of the biggest #1 hits of all time at this rate.

Yass! Go Morgan. Show that little girl Olivia who's the strongest.

Honey that wording ain't it...

Anyways another day, another migraine thinking about how Last Night even got to this position.

[Italian Barb]

it's so cute how you all put your hopes in olivia and that boring song Vampire.

[velaxti]

I want Olivia to win. I like Last Night (I listened to it about 5 times in a row earlier today), but it's been #1 for ages now.

[HamedM1 💔]

Even disregarding preferences, Last Night has been sitting at the top for long enough so naturally most chart watchers, fan of the song or not, would want to move onto something else by now.

[korbel16]

Jul 5, 2023 14:48:44 GMT -5 HamedM1 💔 said:

Even disregarding preferences, Last Night has been sitting at the top for long enough so naturally most chart watchers, fan of the song or not, would want to move onto something else by now.

right, it’s similar to as it was did last year….without any bias, i think last night will end up having longer legs than as it was. It even has loads more to grow from on pop radio, it’s crazy

[1^∞]

Jul 5, 2023 12:14:54 GMT -5 hitsrus said:

I have a different take than others it seems.  I don't think the charts are weak.  Sure there's the odd week some positions would be called weak but not overall.

i think people need to adjust their expectations on how songs will do.  Not only points but  streams sales etc which directly impacts points a song can get.  It is a new reality and not 2018 any longer.  Sales are dead except for the very rare cases.  Radio is way down in metrics.  And let's be honest, streaming is way down as well.  Between consumption patterns and Billboard continually excluding things that count - yes points are going to be much lower.

Last Night is not a weak number one. In fact I'd still consider it a very strong number one.  At about 300 points it is near max.  It is a good example of what we can expect in 2023 (of course there will be exceptions that do better, even much better). It is near the top of radio consumption patterns.  It is absolutely consistently a top streaming song,  with both those near the top, there isn't a lot more points to get.  And we've seen that not many songs have done better than 30m streams, and that 75m airplay is quite strong,

This also means Olivia is near the top of potential points.  So it definitely isn't a flop,  in fact barring some viral event or during slnum rlease 40m streams is now a rarity.

I also don't think that radio is propping up Last Night nor holding on too long,  it still is mostly the top streamed song after all.

I don' expect that to change much any time soon. We've seen from You Proof and Dangerous i that Morgan's streaming beyond consistent. LN will most likely still be getting 270+ points come September.  So how many weeks that translates into #1 really spends on what comes out that is quite strong and will get 35m streams and 25m AI in its first week.  Not many will do that nowadays.

Is that not what people mean when they say the charts are weak? 

[enwhy]

it's funny, of all the takes that came from Old Town Road's record run at #1, no one really talked about the potential for country music to dominate streaming. Obviously Old Town Road wasn't really pure country, but is it really that different from some of the trap-inspired country that Wallen puts out?

But now it seems inevitable that country music is set to dominate the hot 100 for years to come IMO. Country fans are down to listen to the same songs forever (which is why country radio is so stagnant), which is great for Hot 100 success. Last Night won't be the last of these country mega-hits.

[hitsrus]

Jul 5, 2023 14:48:44 GMT -5 HamedM1 💔 said:

Even disregarding preferences, Last Night has been sitting at the top for long enough so naturally most chart watchers, fan of the song or not, would want to move onto something else by now.

The problem is you don't break records without going through the Boeing parts.  So yea, we can have a faster turn over and cheer songs be knocked off, but then we need to accept whatever has the records keeps them.

[shadowthehedgehogfan]

Taylor could've pushed Hit Different or any of the easy-listening friendly songs, as the radio single but noooo... she had to go with Karma.

i knew it was a bad single choice

[Choco]

Jul 5, 2023 15:43:02 GMT -5 shadowthehedgehogfan said:

Taylor could've pushed Hit Different or any of the easy-listening friendly songs, as the radio single but noooo... she had to go with Karma.

i knew it was a bad single choice

#2 Hot 100, #1 on Pop radio. Make some sense challenge.

[pcg4]

Last Night might break OTR record but ya'll know that it's not gonna hold it for long. We literally have a song that every year scores weeks at #1, it's bound to become the song with the most weeks at number one in the near future unless Billboard artificially excludes it.

[shadowthehedgehogfan]

Jul 5, 2023 15:23:13 GMT -5 enwhy said:

it's funny, of all the takes that came from Old Town Road's record run at #1, no one really talked about the potential for country music to dominate streaming. Obviously Old Town Road wasn't really pure country, but is it really that different from some of the trap-inspired country that Wallen puts out?

But now it seems inevitable that country music is set to dominate the hot 100 for years to come IMO. Country fans are down to listen to the same songs forever (which is why country radio is so stagnant), which is great for Hot 100 success. Last Night won't be the last of these country mega-hits.

Old Town Road was good? unlike Morgan's trap-country

[Choco]

I'd say Olivia/Taylor/Drake probably dropping on three consecutive weeks will probably hinder LN's chances of surpassing OTR but:

1. Olivia is having trouble securing a big lead over LN.
2. Taylor is a rerecording without the All Too Well hype so she's a wildcard.
3. Drake isn't the surefire easy #1 contender he was a few years ago.
4. Last Night isn't really dropping much so it can still miss these three weeks and go back to #1 after that.

So much for cancellation culture complainers, here's your proof it's not a real thing.

[shadowthehedgehogfan]

Jul 5, 2023 15:47:17 GMT -5 Choco said:

Jul 5, 2023 15:43:02 GMT -5 shadowthehedgehogfan said:

Taylor could've pushed Hit Different or any of the easy-listening friendly songs, as the radio single but noooo... she had to go with Karma.

i knew it was a bad single choice

#2 Hot 100, #1 on Pop radio. Make some sense challenge.

wasn't everyone dogging on the remix when it was released? Especially when it fell on streaming?

[Choco]

Jul 5, 2023 15:59:31 GMT -5 shadowthehedgehogfan said:

Jul 5, 2023 15:47:17 GMT -5 Choco said:

#2 Hot 100, #1 on Pop radio. Make some sense challenge.

wasn't everyone dogging on the remix when it was released? Especially when it fell on streaming?

The remix sucking doesn't mean the song didn't do it's job. It's the most stable big hit she has on the Hot 100 since 2017 (not sure if it's bigger than Delicate but that had a much lower peak), excluding Anti-Hero. That's a commercial win.

Creatively yeah it sucks. Even the original isn't what I'd call a great track by her standards.

[mylo]

Jul 5, 2023 15:56:54 GMT -5 Choco said:

I'd say Olivia/Taylor/Drake probably dropping on three consecutive weeks will probably hinder LN's chances of surpassing OTR but:

1. Olivia is having trouble securing a big lead over LN.
2. Taylor is a rerecording without the All Too Well hype so she's a wildcard.
3. Drake isn't the surefire easy #1 contender he was a few years ago.
4. Last Night isn't really dropping much so it can still miss these three weeks and go back to #1 after that.

So much for cancellation culture complainers, here's your proof it's not a real thing.

I kind of expect Travis to go number 1 with the lead off of Utopia with the hype behind the project and that's rumored to be the 21st so that could also hinder LNs chances as well

[shadowthehedgehogfan]

Jul 5, 2023 16:02:05 GMT -5 Choco said:

Jul 5, 2023 15:59:31 GMT -5 shadowthehedgehogfan said:

wasn't everyone dogging on the remix when it was released? Especially when it fell on streaming?

The remix sucking doesn't mean the song didn't do it's job. It's the most stable big hit she has on the Hot 100 since 2017 (not sure if it's bigger than Delicate but that had a much lower peak), excluding Anti-Hero. That's a commercial win.

Creatively yeah it sucks. Even the original isn't what I'd call a great track by her standards.

which is why it was a bad choice

[kimberly]

Karma is a horrible song (personal opinion), but it's literally designed to be an easy-listen track 😂 it sounds like a Lover filler track, how is it not easy-listen? there's nothing sonically or lyrically challenging the listener, besides how awfully corny some of the lyrics are. it's radio fodder to the max.

the takes in here have been... rough lately to say the least.

[hitsrus]

Jul 5, 2023 16:03:05 GMT -5 mylo said:

Jul 5, 2023 15:56:54 GMT -5 Choco said:

I'd say Olivia/Taylor/Drake probably dropping on three consecutive weeks will probably hinder LN's chances of surpassing OTR but:

1. Olivia is having trouble securing a big lead over LN.
2. Taylor is a rerecording without the All Too Well hype so she's a wildcard.
3. Drake isn't the surefire easy #1 contender he was a few years ago.
4. Last Night isn't really dropping much so it can still miss these three weeks and go back to #1 after that.

So much for cancellation culture complainers, here's your proof it's not a real thing.

I kind of expect Travis to go number 1 with the lead off of Utopia with the hype behind the project and that's rumored to be the 21st so that could also hinder LNs chances as well

I don't think LN will make it to 19 weeks.  16 or so seems possible with a week later in July and a couple weeks in Aug - as competition comes and goes and LN stays steady through Labor Day.

[jasper0102]

Jul 5, 2023 15:23:13 GMT -5 enwhy said:

But now it seems inevitable that country music is set to dominate the hot 100 for years to come IMO. Country fans are down to listen to the same songs forever (which is why country radio is so stagnant), which is great for Hot 100 success. Last Night won't be the last of these country mega-hits.

Well let’s see how it goes, but the thought that Last Night could only be the peak or the beginning of these smashes for country music becoming the norm...

Jul 5, 2023 15:43:02 GMT -5 shadowthehedgehogfan said:

Taylor could've pushed Hit Different or any of the easy-listening friendly songs, as the radio single but noooo... she had to go with Karma.

i knew it was a bad single choice

Like what “easy-listening friendly” songs? If you wanna go by that metric exclusively, really only Bejeweled could have potentially been a better choice than Karma. And it’s not like’s Karma flopped either.

Jul 5, 2023 16:03:05 GMT -5 mylo said:

Jul 5, 2023 15:56:54 GMT -5 Choco said:

I'd say Olivia/Taylor/Drake probably dropping on three consecutive weeks will probably hinder LN's chances of surpassing OTR but:

1. Olivia is having trouble securing a big lead over LN.
2. Taylor is a rerecording without the All Too Well hype so she's a wildcard.
3. Drake isn't the surefire easy #1 contender he was a few years ago.
4. Last Night isn't really dropping much so it can still miss these three weeks and go back to #1 after that.

So much for cancellation culture complainers, here's your proof it's not a real thing.

I kind of expect Travis to go number 1 with the lead off of Utopia with the hype behind the project and that's rumored to be the 21st so that could also hinder LNs chances as well

Yeah Travis could definitely be a threat but i think it depends on his streaming on whether’s he’s beating Morgan. Olivia’s already having a hard time beating Morgan and she has radio and better sales on her side, but Travis outperforming her on streaming could make up for it.

As for what the OP said, well Taylor could still get there but no webstore sales are gonna hurt and it’s yet to be seen whether she’s gonna push a song from Speak Now (TV) as hard as ATW.

As for Drake, well we’ve seen the last time he and Morgan have gone head to head. And even if he does beat him, it’d probably only be for a week, kinda like when Jimmy Cooks interrupted the middle of AIW’s run last year.

[shadowthehedgehogfan]

Easy listening? as in ballads? Like Youre On Your Own Kid? The Great War?

[shadowthehedgehogfan]

Also, yes, bejeweled is a much better song than karma. it actually pulls off the whole diva tone Karma was attempting

[heavensent]

last night is terrible (imo), i know music is subjective but i'm confused by how this song is smashing on POP radio, it doesn't sound like something that pop radio usually play.. is this one of thoses cases where a song was too big that pop radio couldn't ignore it?

[jasper0102]

Jul 5, 2023 17:06:09 GMT -5 shadowthehedgehogfan said:

Easy listening? as in ballads? Like Youre On Your Own Kid? The Great War?

No
I do think those 2 could have done well on radio had they been pushed though.

[shadowthehedgehogfan]

you do? im glad you agree