Billboard Hot 100: 07/29/2023

[neel]

And now #1 Spotify. If this was just one of those first year Biden /anti-vaccine COVID era bullshit songs from 2021 that were only popular on iTunes. Then nobody would care, but this song is doing good everywhere.

I have big feeling it’s not going to debut only in U.S, but may debut in the Top 10 in multiple countries. I won’t be surprised if this song simultaneously debuts in the Top 3 or at #1 on the Canadian Hot 100.

I think generally says some something if that happens.

[lazer]

Where did you get that report?

[musiclife]

So we really believe that this just dropped from 100k sales today back down to 2k? It probably did another 90-100k today in the US alone.

[gs]

It probably did like 70K today and will drop sharply. Might end with 150K for 7 days. Sales are uber frontloaded unlike streaming due to its unique listener factor.

[kcdawg13]

I was out of town last night and saw Beyonce, and then I come back to this chaos.

America has a problem.

[enwhy]

Jul 21, 2023 23:07:42 GMT -5 85la said:

I'm just curious because this hasn't really been talked about in a while, but is this the rough formula now?

1k sales = 1 point

1 million radio impressions = 1.3 points

1 million streams = 7 points (combining all tiers of streaming together because Billboard never gives the separate numbers and it's not easy to determine on your own)

yeah that seems to be roughly correct. streams are the tricky part...there's a lot of variance there depending on source and streams are usually worth the majority of points. 

Jul 21, 2023 23:37:13 GMT -5 gs said:

It probably did like 70K today and will drop sharply. Might end with 150K for 7 days. Sales are uber frontloaded unlike streaming due to its unique listener factor.

i feel like it's tough to say which way this will go. sure there's the 1 lifetime purchase limit on iTunes, but also i feel like this is bringing out a bunch of people who would never otherwise buy music. im sure all the conservative US news sites will be covering this nonstop all week. when it goes #1 we'll probably get a whole second wave of sales.

[.indulgecountry]

Jul 21, 2023 16:04:06 GMT -5 Choco said:

I also don't feel Wallen and Aldean should be treated the same here.

One said the n word on video once, the other is literally rallying people to fight against another group. Ambiguously, yeah, but you can't tell me no one on the recording booth knew what the MAGA audience was going to take away from the track.

I'm also sure a huge number of music acts might use the n word privately, Wallen was just dumb enough to get caught. Most of the world, to be honest, knows nothing about the incident, and the few that do have mostly moved on.

Wallen's music itself is inoffensive, more conventional country. Sure you can think it's mediocre but the songs themselves aren't offensive.

1) This
2) The way I was ahead of the curve, lol...

Mar 19, 2023 20:59:32 GMT -5 .indulgecountry said:

Mar 19, 2023 20:47:50 GMT -5 RoseColoredGirl said:

Morgan is obviously the worst one here as a person, but a few of his songs are at least tolerable for me. Music-wise, Jason Aldean is the worst for me. I hate pretty much every song I've heard from him so he gets my vote.

Morgan Wallen said the N word once, apologized for it, and then later donated $300,000 to the Black Music Action Coalition.
Jason Aldean has worn literal blackface for Halloween and has a notably transphobic wife that he got with after he was caught cheating on his first wife -- who was his high school sweetheart & mother of his 2 young (less than 10 y.o.) daughters -- w/ her in a public bar.

Mar 26, 2023 22:55:19 GMT -5 .indulgecountry said:

I was just responding to one of many comments that paint Morgan Wallen as THE ultimate villain while dismissing someone like Jason Aldean who I would argue is quite literally worse based on multiple things he's done or associated himself with. The person I quoted (RoseColoredGirl ) even edited her post in response. I don't think Wallen is a great person either and never said he was, but there's been quite a few interesting comments here about who is worse from an ethics standpoint. Several people have picked Gabby Barrett as well which is even more confusing to me seeing as she's literally done nothing by comparison to either of them besides just... be Republican.

As for the donated money, sure it was a PR stunt and only because he got caught and received backlash for his actions, but the Black Music Action Coalition got $300,000 richer because of it which is at least something to celebrate. It doesn't matter who the money comes from or why it happened, it still went to a good cause. Jason Aldean never gave any money to black people after he dressed up as one for Halloween and then said the world is just too sensitive these days. 🥴

tl,dr version: Neither are great people, I just think a lot of people are focused on Morgan Wallen because he's the current face of country music and most recently taken heat for problematic behavior, but Jason Aldean done been a trashy human since before Wallen was even in Nashville and not enough people seemed to know that, and he's never faced a single repercussion for anything he's done. Wallen actually got (albeit temporarily) pulled from the airwaves when he made his mistake. It also started out as I assume a poll based on quality of material, but it divulged into a game of ethics so I felt the need to throw some of that stuff out there since it was glossed over.

[kcdawg13]

People will have to make peace with Wallen, he's here to stay and there's lots of worse people from Nashville to worry about.

[M5AGTS]

Jul 21, 2023 23:22:48 GMT -5 mag said:

Jul 21, 2023 22:53:20 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Lmao you just did not just try and say Kill Bill was a violent song 

No but you’re confirming what I’m talking about

The difference is Kill Bill is obviously fictional. Whereas Jason Aldean actually believes the words he's singing.

[musiclife]

I do believe to condemn any song with violence you have to condemn them all. I'm watching yall for the next time the next #1, or when you're rooting for it to go #1, is about violent shit or cooking Pies in the kitchen. Lol

I'm obviously joking because I don't care.. before anyone has a heart attack.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Jul 22, 2023 0:51:10 GMT -5 musiclife said:

I do believe to condemn any song with violence you have to condemn them all. I'm watching yall for the next time the next #1, or when you're rooting for it to go #1, is about violent shit or cooking Pies in the kitchen. Lol

This such a huge and dated fallacy I can't believe it still has to be explained: any sort of activity with moral dubious ground will be changed on a case by case basis. It's one thing to talk about violence and it's another to provoke people towards it. The former is an accepted part of any art because if you're seriously against anything with violence then you're saying condemn Tarantino, Scorsese, David Fincher, and every single creator of any horror media or any media with crime in it

And this is so obviously meant to be directed towards hip-hop especially with that "cooking pies in the kitchen" line that I also still can't believe we're debating violence in hip-hop and rap IN 2023

[musiclife]

Jul 22, 2023 0:51:10 GMT -5 musiclife said:

I do believe to condemn any song with violence you have to condemn them all. I'm watching yall for the next time the next #1, or when you're rooting for it to go #1, is about violent shit or cooking Pies in the kitchen. Lol

I'm obviously joking because I don't care.. before anyone has a heart attack.

It went #2 and tons of people were screaming for it to go #1. And there is no greater violence than cooking meth in a kitchen. I was joking slow your roll, and Trap Queen didn't come out in 1999.

Jul 22, 2023 0:59:55 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Jul 22, 2023 0:51:10 GMT -5 musiclife said:

I do believe to condemn any song with violence you have to condemn them all. I'm watching yall for the next time the next #1, or when you're rooting for it to go #1, is about violent shit or cooking Pies in the kitchen. Lol

This such a huge and dated fallacy I can't believe it still has to be explained: any sort of activity with moral dubious ground will be changed on a case by case basis. It's one thing to talk about violence and it's another to provoke people towards it. The former is an accepted part of any art because if you're seriously against anything with violence then you're saying condemn Tarantino, Scorsese, David Fincher, and every single creator of any horror media or any media with crime in it

And this is so obviously meant to be directed towards hip-hop especially with that "cooking pies in the kitchen" line that I also still can't believe we're debating violence in hip-hop and rap IN 2023

Cancel them all if violence offends.. I personally don't care.


It isn't meant to be anything towards hip-hop hop. Lmfao it's just in general that we root for songs about cooking meth when drug abuse is the worst pandemic in America. I'm just using songs like Trap Queen in general. I hate drugs and drug dealers, but I still listened to it and had fun singing it. I said I was joking take a chill pill it ain't that deep.

[tekkenguy]

Jul 21, 2023 23:07:42 GMT -5 85la said:

Jul 21, 2023 22:23:02 GMT -5 enwhy said:

So in terms of chart points...

227k sales = 227 points
4.9M streams through wednesday - using the spotify numbers for thursday i would guess like 10M total for the week = 70ish points
Radio was up 19% this week so say 7.7M impressions = 10 points

That’s 307 total, which is probably enough for #1? Wallen is forecasted at 293. HIgh margin of error though - fewer premium streams, sales getting filtered, or just my estimation on the streams being off could knock it down. Also there’s the big X factor of Seven, which no one knows how many sales that ended up with. Good luck to the twitter predictors lol

I'm just curious because this hasn't really been talked about in a while, but is this the rough formula now?

1k sales = 1 point

1 million radio impressions = 1.3 points

1 million streams = 7 points (combining all tiers of streaming together because Billboard never gives the separate numbers and it's not easy to determine on your own)

Do you think Billboard decides to cut the weight of sales in the formula?

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Jul 22, 2023 1:02:14 GMT -5 musiclife said:

Jul 22, 2023 0:51:10 GMT -5 musiclife said:

I do believe to condemn any song with violence you have to condemn them all. I'm watching yall for the next time the next #1, or when you're rooting for it to go #1, is about violent shit or cooking Pies in the kitchen. Lol

I'm obviously joking because I don't care.. before anyone has a heart attack.

It went #2 and tons of people were screaming for it to go #1. And there is no greater violence than cooking meth in a kitchen. I was joking slow your roll, and Trap Queen didn't come out in 1999.

Jul 22, 2023 0:59:55 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

This such a huge and dated fallacy I can't believe it still has to be explained: any sort of activity with moral dubious ground will be changed on a case by case basis. It's one thing to talk about violence and it's another to provoke people towards it. The former is an accepted part of any art because if you're seriously against anything with violence then you're saying condemn Tarantino, Scorsese, David Fincher, and every single creator of any horror media or any media with crime in it

And this is so obviously meant to be directed towards hip-hop especially with that "cooking pies in the kitchen" line that I also still can't believe we're debating violence in hip-hop and rap IN 2023

Cancel them all if violence offends.. I personally don't care.


It isn't meant to be anything towards hip-hop hop. Lmfao it's just in general that we root for songs about cooking meth when drug abuse is the worst pandemic in America. I'm just using songs like Trap Queen in general. I hate drugs and drug dealers, but I still listened to it and had fun singing it. I said I was joking take a chill pill it ain't that deep.

...I think I'm done arguing about this but I'll just say as someone with a mother working in drug rehab: Jesus Christ wtf. Especially in light of all the violent crimes that've occured in America and around the world, wtf.

[85la]

Jul 22, 2023 1:13:09 GMT -5 tekkenguy said:

Jul 21, 2023 23:07:42 GMT -5 85la said:

I'm just curious because this hasn't really been talked about in a while, but is this the rough formula now?

1k sales = 1 point

1 million radio impressions = 1.3 points

1 million streams = 7 points (combining all tiers of streaming together because Billboard never gives the separate numbers and it's not easy to determine on your own)

Do you think Billboard decides to cut the weight of sales in the formula?

Not sure, I don't think they have recently.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - Week 07/20/23

1(+4) Gunna - fukumean 10,922,048
2(-1) Olivia Rodrigo - vampire 10,368,175
3(DEBUT) Jung Kook, Latto - Seven 10,357,560
4(-1) Morgan Wallen - Last Night 10,179,878
5(+4) Taylor Swift - Cruel Summer 8,463,303
6(+8) Eslabon Armado, Peso Pluma - Ella Baila Sola 7,266,976
7(+13) Luke Combs - Fast Car 6,324,853
8(-6) Taylor Swift - I Can See You 6,009,209
9(+16) SZA - Kill Bill 5,685,874
10(DEBUT) Billie Eilish - What Was I Made For? 5,383,742

Taylor Swift - Speak Now (Taylor's Version) [16/22]
45(-38) Enchanted (Taylor's Version) 3,472,794
49(-43) Back to December (Taylor's Version) 3,327,307
64(-60) Mine (Taylor's Version) 3,135,313
96(-88) Sparks Fly (Taylor's Version) 2,763,443
102(-92) Better Than Revenge (Taylor's Version) 2,676,564
108(-91) Foolish One 2,627,209
124(-103) Timeless 2,519,348
125(-113) Castles Crumbling 2,515,090
127(-111) Electric Touch 2,512,656
130(-119) Dear John (Taylor's Version) 2,493,036
134(-119) When Emma Falls in Love 2,461,517
150(-37) Speak Now (Taylor's Version) 2,339,597
167(-143) Long Live (Taylor's Version) 2,250,998
186(-168) Mean (Taylor's Version) 2,149,545
198(-179) The Story of Us (Taylor's Version) 2,125,237

11(+17) Morgan Wallen - You Proof 5,379,829
12(+29) Nicki Minaj, Ice Spice - Barbie World 5,337,557
13(+16) Grupo Frontera, Bad Bunny - un x100to 5,119,769
14(+16) Tyler the Creator, Kali Uchis - See You Again 5,092,642
15(+17) NewJeans - Super Shy 5,053,379
17(+16) Yng Lvcas, Peso Pluma - La Bebe Remix 4,802,971
18(DEBUT) Post Malone - Overdrive 4,762,678
19(+18) Zach Bryan - Something in the Orange 4,727,258
20(+15) Bad Bunny - WHERE SHE GOES 4,610,013
21(+15) Lil Durk, J. Cole - All My Life 4,523,358
23(+16) Peso Pluma, Gabito Bellasteros, Junior H - LADY GAGA 4,289,327
24(+27) Morgan Wallen - Thinkin' Bout Me 4,273,158
25(+18) Fuerza Regida - SABOR FRESA 4,233,630
26(+18) Junior H, Peso Pluma - El Azul 4,179,973
28(+17) Fuerza Regida - TQM 4,100,467
30(+19) FIFTY FIFTY - Cupid (Twin Version) 4,077,610
31(+3) Lil Uzi Vert - Flooded the Face 3,972,568
32(+20) Taylor Swift - Karma 3,843,316
33(+22) Peso Pluma, Grupo Frontera - TULUM 3,833,047
34(+16) Miley Cyrus - Flowers 3,828,184
36(+11) Drake- Search & Rescue 3,798,483
37(+64) Myke Towers - LALA 3,744,951
38(+16) Bizarrap, Peso Pluma - Peso Pluma: Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 55 3,724,097
39(DEBUT) Troye Sivan - Rush 3,718,163
41(+15) Kali Uchis - Moonlight 3,549,165
43(+32) Noah Kahan - Dial Drunk 3,500,584
44(+21) Rema, Selena Gomez - Calm Down 3,473,950
46(+14) SZA - Snooze 3,451,425
47(+10) Metro Boomin, The Weeknd, 21 Savage - Creepin' 3,444,148
48(+16) David Kushner - Daylight 3,387,545
50(+19) Kendrick Lamar, Jay Rock - Money Trees 3,306,141
51(+10) Taylor Swift - Style 3,301,739
52(+26) Bailey Zimmerman - Religiously 3,258,339
54(+9) Tainy, Bad Bunny - MOJABI GHOST 3,232,997
57(+6) Kaliii - Area Codes 3,209,292
61(+27) Dua Lipa - Dance the Night 3,163,512
62(+14) The Weeknd, Playboi Carti, Madonna - Popular 3,160,387
63(+14) Peso Pluma - BYE 3,146,102
66(+14) Miguel - Sure Thing 3,097,549
67(DEBUT) Noah Kahan, Post Malone - Dial Drunk Remix 3,093,729
68(+4) Taylor Swift - Blank Space 3,091,248
69(+20) Lil Durk, Morgan Wallen - Stand By Me 3,078,761
70(+102) Jimin - Like Crazy 3,076,289
73(+9) Peso Pluma, Junior H - LUNA 3,056,282
78(DEBUT) Laufey - From the Start 2,996,557
80(+38) Jordan Davis - Next Thing You Know 2,954,355
81(+17) Taylor Swift - Don't Blame Me 2,933,803
82(+10) Taylor Swift - cardigan 2,930,736
85(+21) Peso Pluma, Jasiel Nuñez - LAGUNAS 2,895,077
86(+24) Young Nudy, 21 Savage - Peaches & Eggplants 2,888,630
89(DEBUT) KAROL G - S91 2,803,760
91(+6) Young Thug, Drake - Oh U Went 2,797,757
97(+46) Noah Kahan - Stick Season 2,751,040
100(-19) Metro Boomin, Swae Lee, NAV, A Boogie Wit da Hoodie - Calling 2,706,090

106(+1) Kanye West - I Wonder 2,643,895
107(+31) Taylor Swift - august 2,629,414
111(+66) Dave, Central Cee - Sprinter 2,599,805
118(+22) Zach Bryan - Sun to Me 2,558,939
120(+2) Brent Faiyaz - Clouded 2,545,670
128(+5) Taylor Swift - Lover 2,504,502
132(+15) Feid, Young Miko - Classy 101 2,470,970
136(-28) NewJeans - New Jeans 2,456,845
137(-3) TV Girl - Lovers Rock 2,456,075
138(+61) That Mexican OT, Paul Wall, DRODi - Johnny Dang 2,441,275
139(-44) Dominic Fike - Mona Lisa 2,441,203
144(DEBUT) Faye Webster - I Know You 2,396,430
146(re-entry) Old Dominion - Memory Lane 2,380,161
147(-51) Metro Boomin, A$AP Rocky, Roisee - Am I Dreaming 2,351,501
149(+39) Steve Lacy - Infrunami 2,339,949
151(-32) Metro Boomin, Swae Lee, Lil Wayne, Offset - Annihilate 2,335,343
155(re-entry) HARDY - TRUCK BED 2,317,299
162(-25) Jelly Roll - Need A Favor 2,271,957
164(re-entry) KAROL G - AMARGURA 2,261,703
168(-41) Doja Cat - Attention 2,247,874
173(+7) Ice Spice, Nicki Minaj - Princess Diana 2,211,799
179(+7) Doechii - What It Is (Solo Version) 2,202,450
180(-16) Peso Pluma - RUBICON 2,190,146
183(DEBUT) Zach Bryan - Oklahoma Smokeshow 2,167,571
185(DEBUT) Tory Lanez, Trippie Redd, Yoko Gold - Hurt Me 2,161,747
187(-39) Metro Boomin, Coi Leray - Self Love 2,145,240
189(-53) Tyler Hubbard - Dancin' in the Country 2,142,009
190(-103) Lil Uzi Vert, Nicki Minaj - Endless Fashion 2,139,904
191(-36) Toosii - Favorite Song 2,139,266
195(-17) Bakar - Hell N Back 2,130,312
196(-14) Peso Pluma, Edgardo Nuñez, Los Dareyes De La Sierra - VVS 2,127,742
199(DEBUT) Ryan Casto, Peso Pluma, SOG - QUEMA 2,111,126

Total Streams for Dial Drunk: 6,594,313 (would be #7 with combined streams).

Well this week was messier than expected. We'll have to deal with that song next week but for now we have a new #1 and not a song I was actually expecting as Gunna's fukumean climbs to #1 with a 13.4% gain, Gunna's first #1 since Drip Too Hard back in 2018. It leapt over vampire which went down to #2, losing 18.99% and higher than the top debut of the week, at #3 Jung Kook's solo debut: Seven. But that wasn't the only debut in the Top 10 as at #10 is Billie Eilish's song for the Barbie movie: What Was I Made For?.

All of this was in the shadow of Speak Now (Taylor's Version) second week on the charts so let's talk Taylor. She had a big drop off this week with nearly every song on the album dropping by more than half. While I Can See You managed to stay in the Top 10, it still lost 52.46% of streams. And as for her other Top 10 debuts last week: Enchanted dropped by 61.41%, Back to December was down 65.26%, Mine fell by 67.62%, Sparks Fly collapsed by 68.64%, and Better than Revenge crashed by 68.14%.

Elsewhere, given the fall of all the Speak Now songs, the charts were settling back to an equilibrium, with the only other notable news being Troye Sivan debuting in the Top #40 with Rush, his biggest debut to date, Noah Kahan dropping a remix of Dial Drunk with Post Malone mid-week, and Lie Crazy rebounding huge perhaps on the back of his bandmate's other solo debut.

Notable Gains:
Like Crazy - 36%
LALA - 33%
Barbie World - 21%
Sprinter - 16%
Johnny Dang - 15%
Stick Season - 14%
fukumean  - 13%
Next Thing You Know - 12%
You Should Probably Leave - 10%

Week 2 Streams
SZA - SOS: 114,758,353 (-42%)
Morgan Wallen - One Thing At A Time: 113,180,650 (-46%)
Metro Boomin - HEROES & VILLAINS: 58,675,707 (-43%)
Taylor Swift - Speak Now (Taylor's Version): 42,866,207 (-74%)
Metro Boomin - ACROSS THE SPIDER-VERSE SOUNDTRACK: 36,136,809 (-22%)

[lurker2]

Q: is Aldean's song fueled by website sales? If not, I think a) this is, for better or worse, organic and not mass bought and b) this'll be around for a while (maybe a few weeks?)

[jasper0102]

Jul 22, 2023 2:10:53 GMT -5 lurker2 said:

Q: is Aldean's song fueled by website sales? If not, I think a) this is, for better or worse, organic and not mass bought and b) this'll be around for a while (maybe a few weeks?)

I don't think he even has website sales so probably not.

[imbondz]

Jul 20, 2023 9:41:27 GMT -5 HamedM1 💔 said:

Jul 20, 2023 9:17:23 GMT -5 Gary said:

If Last Night was a dance record and Morgan Wallen wore a skirt - it would probably go better here LOL

Let's refrain from the borderline home of phobic comments or perpetuate the stereotype that most of this website drools over every dance-pop song especially cause its from LGBTQ+ and/or genderfluid artists. Thanks!

It’s not a stereotype it’s true. And who cares.

[imbondz]

Jul 20, 2023 12:44:08 GMT -5 meuirmao said:

Jul 20, 2023 10:04:41 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Meanwhile, has Aldean issued any sort of excuse or apology about the location? Not that I've seen. That tells me that a lot.

Anyway, it's so annoying that even with digital sales on web sites not counting, a relatively small group of stans can still band together and potentially buy a #1. I think "Last Night" lacks any distinctive quality, but it's most certainly a bigger hit right now than "Seven."

Are we also expecting an excuse or apology from Miley Cyrus or Tanya Tucker for filming movies in front of the same building?

Lol. The hypocrites won’t be able to understand that. If you see racism in that song you’re the racist. But can’t have that discussion here.

[imbondz]

Jul 22, 2023 0:51:10 GMT -5 musiclife said:

I do believe to condemn any song with violence you have to condemn them all. I'm watching yall for the next time the next #1, or when you're rooting for it to go #1, is about violent shit or cooking Pies in the kitchen. Lol

I'm obviously joking because I don't care.. before anyone has a heart attack.

This. Let’s look at every rap lyric over the past year. Gtfo anyone complaining about violent lyrics. Please. Get rid of all of them or stop being hypocrites.

[Groovy]

I'm feeling another ban is coming.

[thegreatdivine]

My goodness. Can you guys take these charged discussions somewhere else? Christ.

[wavey.]

Is there an effect on which streaming platform is strong?(Apple vs Spotify) or it doesn't matter?

[mms82]

It is crazy - a lifetime of achievement of Jason Aldean as one of the biggest country acts from 2008-2014 will now be remembered for a political controversy 15 years after Big Green Tractor and other iconic songs

[HamedM1 💔]

Jul 22, 2023 5:26:21 GMT -5 imbondz said:

Jul 20, 2023 9:41:27 GMT -5 HamedM1 💔 said:

Let's refrain from the borderline home of phobic comments or perpetuate the stereotype that most of this website drools over every dance-pop song especially cause its from LGBTQ+ and/or genderfluid artists. Thanks!

It’s not a stereotype it’s true. And who cares.

Ma'am this conversation topic is closed for business, please move on as I had previously suggested in regards to this exact talking point, more than once now. (Even though a lot of people do in fact care because stereotyping and generalizing groups of people is ya know a harmful and offensive act.)

Thats all that needs to be said, everyone please refrain from extending this specific conversation any further, thank you!

[mms82]

Barbie World’s resurgence is pretty impressive.

Nicki Minaj deserves massive kudos - on paper she should be long over in her career, and she definitely gets artificial chart success from mass buying from her stans. But to have two legitimate hits (Barbie World, Super Freaky Girl) as a 40 year old woman 15+ years into her career is so impressive, especially as an older woman in an industry that is incredibly harsh to women over a certain age.

[gs]

Barbie World, I'm Good, and to a lesser extent, Baby Don't Hurt Me, song proves the GP in 2022-2023 will literally eat up a sampled song from the 90s no matter how awful it is, ugh

[Gary]

Jul 22, 2023 8:43:52 GMT -5 mms82 said:

It is crazy - a lifetime of achievement of Jason Aldean as one of the biggest country acts from 2008-2014 will now be remembered for a political controversy 15 years after Big Green Tractor and other iconic songs

For places like this one - yes.

For everyone else, once the controversy leaves the news cycle, no one will care

[mms82]

Jul 22, 2023 9:12:54 GMT -5 Gary said:

Jul 22, 2023 8:43:52 GMT -5 mms82 said:

It is crazy - a lifetime of achievement of Jason Aldean as one of the biggest country acts from 2008-2014 will now be remembered for a political controversy 15 years after Big Green Tractor and other iconic songs

For places like this one - yes.

For everyone else, once the controversy leaves the news cycle, no one will care

I don’t know, I have a feeling in 10 years if Jason Aldean comes up it won’t be Big Green Tractor or Dirt Road Anthem that comes to mind for the GP, it’ll be “oh he’s the one with the racist song / the small town values song that was cancelled by wokes”

I’ve heard him brought up by both my woke friends and my MAGA friends this week for obviously different reasons, in ways that normally music doesn’t come up as a conversation starter. I think this is just a general news event at this point that’ll be background remembered