Billboard Hot 100: 11/04/2023

[whaleblubber]

Snooze is on sale at $0.69 on iTunes now. Perhaps a push for #1?

[velaxti]

Oct 21, 2023 6:35:23 GMT -5 whaleblubber said:

Snooze is on sale at $0.69 on iTunes now. Perhaps a push for #1?

I hope it gets there, it's such a good song, and Cruel Summer and Snooze both getting #1 is the ideal scenario for me.

[laislabonita]

Oct 21, 2023 5:31:15 GMT -5 mms82 said:

Oct 21, 2023 4:09:03 GMT -5 laislabonita said:

Taylor gaining TWO chart-toppers (cruel summer and slvt) in the span of three weeks 17 years into her career is TERRIFYING. she’s gonna tie Whitney Houston and surpass Janet Jackson. 
The day she surpasses Rihanna many people will be shambles. The music industry will tremble at her feet. Her reign will be absolute. 

Everyone was convinced Enchanted TV would go number one, and it didn’t even go Top 10. I want nothing more, but the TV’s are a crapshoot on performance

anyone knows the hype for 1989 TV is inasane. it re-entered the top 10 on BB200 after it’s announcement and even if it doesn’t hold up in the log run it’ll be big for few weeks at least. not even the devil could stop her at this point 
but I wonder for how long will she be going… likeeee if she’ll ever get bored 😐 

[Fanstar1]

Oct 21, 2023 6:35:23 GMT -5 whaleblubber said:

Snooze is on sale at $0.69 on iTunes now. Perhaps a push for #1?

Lets be real they'd be lucky if that added more than 1 point to the song, and it's losing more than that from its radio collapsing.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^Sza has never been much of a pure seller. It won't make much of a dent for it, considering the song is currently #41 at iTunes.

[fridayteenage]

out of curiosity, 21stc women, lead top 5s with 0 #1s:
Missy 3 (including one from 99)
Ice Spice, Ellie, Bebe, Dua, Eve, Natasha Bedingfield 2

Wonder which will eventually pull it off.

[Khia]

Oct 21, 2023 3:51:06 GMT -5 Darkest Hour said:

US Spotify - Friday
32 beabadoobee, Laufey - A Night To Remember (604,978 streams)
33 The Kid LAROI, Jung Kook, Central Cee - TOO MUCH (598,775 streams)

Talent wins 😌

[whaleblubber]

Early days, let's see how that +2% for Cruel Summer holds up...

Also at Water potential surging into the top 20.

[fridayteenage]

If that drop repeats the following week for Paint the Town Red, only Taylor(s?) would be at 200+ points.

[whaleblubber]

Oct 21, 2023 11:54:44 GMT -5 fridayteenage said:

If that drop repeats the following week for Paint the Town Red, only Taylor(s?) would be at 200+ points.

The following week has 1989 (TV) coming out, and given how I Can See You opened with ~180 points (iirc) 200+ for its "lead" single shouldn't be out of the question.

Cruel Summer blocking it would be hilarious though-- a suffering from success moment.

[KeepDeanWeird]

^ Great example of TOTC giving false *dog whistles* to Swifties by making them think CS is *safe* so they become complacent and SZA surges right past it.

The Power of TOTC! lol

[jja2389]

How would snooze surge past cruel summer? It’s bleeding on radio and its streams are nothing to write home about. Additionally, its discount won’t really aid in its overall sales… it would be lucky to pass PTTR.

[Mayman]

Oct 21, 2023 4:48:01 GMT -5 theycallmedualian said:

Oct 21, 2023 4:09:03 GMT -5 laislabonita said:

Taylor gaining TWO chart-toppers (cruel summer and slvt) in the span of three weeks 17 years into her career is TERRIFYING. she’s gonna tie Whitney Houston and surpass Janet Jackson. 
The day she surpasses Rihanna many people will be shambles. The music industry will tremble at her feet. Her reign will be absolute. 

i said this a few times and ill say it again: there is even a chance of another #1 after slvt, if swifties refrain from buying blank space TV or style TV (or whichever having the 2nd most streams) on itunes, and then mass-buy it the week after slvt claimed the top spot. 

with the charts being so weak right now, if taylor's team were to drop a remix/instrumental version and it gets ~30k downloads then it could totally happen. not sure if theyre cooking this up or not, though.  

You have said this over and over and it's not happening unless there is an actual push and focused effort from Taylor's team. All of the standard re-recordings / non vault tracks typically peak first week in streams and then collapse after. That's the pattern established with the first three re-recordings. I'm sure 1989 will still hold better than the others but it still will follow that I'm sure. You really can't "mass buy" with just iTunes. You can only buy one copy per song unless there's multiple versions, which why would Taylor do all of that for an old song? It just doesn't make any sense. If she decides to do focus on pushing any song - it's going to be a new one

[KeepDeanWeird]

Oct 21, 2023 12:46:39 GMT -5 jja2389 said:

How would snooze surge past cruel summer? It’s bleeding on radio and its streams are nothing to write home about. Additionally, its discount won’t really aid in its overall sales… it would be lucky to pass PTTR.

It was a joke related to posters who believe TOTC conspired to boost CS this last tracking week. Snooze's days are over.

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

It's tragic that after all those album bombs 124 points is enough for a #10...

the way Never Really Over would've been a top 5 single if released today lol.

[korbel16]

have the charts ever been this low in points…i get that there’s no hits but damn

[Choco]

I think Snooze's chance has passed.

[85la]

Damn, In The City by Sam Smith and Charli XCX is TANKING!!! Nowhere in the Spotify top 200 or Apple Music top 200, currently only #111 on iTunes, and no airplay (though probably not being pushed). And too bad, because I really like it!!

[Mayman]

Oct 21, 2023 14:05:05 GMT -5 85la said:

Damn, In The City by Sam Smith and Charli XCX is TANKING!!! Nowhere in the Spotify top 200 or Apple Music top 200, currently only #111 on iTunes, and no airplay (though probably not being pushed). And too bad, because I really like it!!

Charli is not a name that's going to automatically do numbers so I'm surprised you had the expectation it was going to chart in the top 200 on either. Speed Drive is a one off hit for her in the US.

I have to also be honest in that it's probably her worst single release of the decade. Everything else has been great or even amazing but this song is just not as good as her other recent material.

[laislabonita]

this album will define Rihanna’s career to this generation and I really hope from the bottom of my heart she doesn’t end up like Adele. EVERY comeback that had a big hype didn’t hold up and it’s becoming a pattern. she will either establish herself again or get another 30.
I’m very excited for her like I miss her so much. 

[laislabonita]

Also I don’t know how to embed tweets on here lol.

[85la]

Oct 21, 2023 14:59:56 GMT -5 Mayman said:

Oct 21, 2023 14:05:05 GMT -5 85la said:

Damn, In The City by Sam Smith and Charli XCX is TANKING!!! Nowhere in the Spotify top 200 or Apple Music top 200, currently only #111 on iTunes, and no airplay (though probably not being pushed). And too bad, because I really like it!!

Charli is not a name that's going to automatically do numbers so I'm surprised you had the expectation it was going to chart in the top 200 on either. Speed Drive is a one off hit for her in the US.

I have to also be honest in that it's probably her worst single release of the decade. Everything else has been great or even amazing but this song is just not as good as her other recent material.

Well, I respectfully disagree. Plus Sam Smith is also on it, so that could've boosted it as well.

[jayhawk1117]

Oooof looks like 200 pts is “all” a 1989 song needs to debut at 1. If anything even matches I Can see you, it’s already number 3 THIS week. A Taylor sweep is more than possible tbh, charts are crazy week lol. It would be PEAK comedy if Cruel summer holds off the tidal wave 😂

Yeah… snooze has run outta chances sadly. Barring another remix, it was never gonna catch cruel summer anymore. The airplay had peaked and the streaming peaked, even if it held steady by the time Doja and Taylor were beatable…. Boom it’s Christmas and no one can compete with Christmas.

God I hope this Rihanna rumor is true

[shadowthehedgehogfan]

tf is slvt

[jayhawk1117]

Oct 21, 2023 19:31:15 GMT -5 shadowthehedgehogfan said:

tf is slvt

vault track from 1989TV. It’s the song that’s predicted to get the “All too well”, “I can see you” treatment

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - 10/20/23

1(=) Drake, Yeat - IDGAF 1,781,566 (-18,617)
2(=) Taylor Swift - Cruel Summer 1,431,109 (+9,973)
3(=) Bad Bunny - MONACO 1,382,415 (-25,775)
4(=) Zach Bryan, Kacey Musgraves - I Remember Everything 1,282,307 (+10,674)
5(+1) Doja Cat - Paint the Town Red 1,274,903 (+47,734)
6(+1) Drake, J. Cole - First Person Shooter 1,246,129 (+63,308)
7(-2) Mitski - My Love Mine All Mine 1,216,194 (-13,345)
8(+1) Tate McRae - greedy 1,096,291 (+75,264)
9(-1) Gunna - fukumean 1,043,758 (+764)
10(+1) Morgan Wallen - Last Night 1,010,699 (+79,160)

Bad Bunny - nadie sabe lo que va a pasar mañana [17/22]
11(+1) PERRO NEGRO 906,541 (+30,359)
18(-2) FINA 748,328 (-51,570)
54(-14) HIBIKI 521,672 (-31,701)
66(-14) BABY NUEVA 487,512 (-24,275)
69(-9) UN PREVIEW 484,815 (-8,600)
72(-24) MR. OCTOBER 481,137 (-35,739)
83(-17) WHERE SHE GOES 464,429 (-13,021)
88(-24) CYBERTRUCK 452,646 (-30,747)
99(-23) TELEFONO NUEVO 422,304 (-38,125)
112(-23) SEDA 403,349 (-28,600)
123(-32) NADIE SABE 383,195 (-42,091)
139(-22) MERCEDES CAROTA 368,333 (-21,155)
164(-29) NO ME QUIERO CASAR 349,751 (-13,057)
167(-43) LOS PITS 347,792 (-25,987)
183(-57) GRACIAS POR NADA 337,301 (-32,586)
186(-56) VOU 787 336,708 (-31,495)
Total Eighth Day Streams: 8,878,228 (-14%)

Other:
12(+2) Doja Cat - Agora Hills 900,051 (+7,9545)
13(=) Travis Scott - I KNOW ? 877,138 (+31,807)
14(+1) Noah Kahan - Stick Season 850,523 (+39,459) *NEW PEAK*
15(+2) Zach Bryan - Something in the Orange 793,564 (+15,271)
16(+2) Olivia Rodrigo - vampire 783,873 (+13,966)
17(+4) Drake, Sexyy Red, SZA - Rich Baby Daddy 744,820 (+32,084)
19(=) Drake - Virginia Beach 744,820 (-19,021)
20(=) SZA - Snooze 735,200 (+22,150)
21(+2) Lil Tecca - 500lbs 723,968 (+23,884)
22(=) Kenya Grace - Strangers 719,158 (+14,347)
24(+1) KAROL G, Peso Pluma - QLONA 678,371-643,835 (+34,536)
25(+5) Tyla - Water 670,971 (+60,784) (+10%)
26(+2) Peso Pluma, Gabito Ballesteros, Junior H - LADY GAGA 663,030 (+34,549)
28(+1) Olivia Rodrigo - bad idea right? 645,065 (+18,116)
29(-3) Drake, SZA - Slime You Out 629,263 (-14,359)
30(+5) Troye Sivan - One Of Your Girls 629,117 (+38,990) *NEW PEAK*
32(DEBUT) Laufey, beabadoobee - A Night to Remember 604,978
33(DEBUT) The Kid LAROI, Jung Kook, Central Cee - TOO MUCH 598,775
34(=) Travis Scott, Drake - MELTDOWN 597,032 (+4,765)
35(+6) Taylor Swift - Style 593,588 (+40,840)
36(-4) Frank Ocean - Pink + White 592,168 (-10,233)
39(+4) Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero 577,361 (+33,249)
40(DEBUT) blink-182 - ANTHEM PART 3 577,231
42(+2) Zach Bryan, The War and Treaty - Hey Driver 558,985 (+17,800)
43(-6) Luke Combs - Fast Car 555,195 (-5,676)
44(-2) Billie Eilish - What Was I Made For? 549,966 (+299)
45(-12) Drake, Bad Bunny - Gently 543,126 (-55,639)
46(-36) Taylor Swift - Cruel Summer (Live from the Eras Tour) 537,101 (-430,512) (-44%)
47(+9) Taylor Swift - Blank Space 535,084 (+36,951)
48(+9) Taylor Swift - Karma 529,348 (+33,019)
52(+10) Taylor Swift - Don't Blame Me 524,991 (+33,019)
53(-2) Zach Bryan - Heading South 522,885 (+10,281)
55(+3) Morgan Wallen - Thinkin' Bout Me 519,338 (+23,813)
57(+28) Calle 24, Chino Pacas, Fuerza Regida - Que Onda 512,086 (+62,255) (+14%) *NEW PEAK*
58(-5) Travis Scott, SZA, Future - TELEKINESIS 511,731 (+161)
61(-7) Taylor Swift - cardigan 504,988 (-240)
62(-16) Brent Faiyaz - Clouded 498,196 (-20,556)
63(-2) Olivia Rodrigo - get him back! 495,055 (+1,821)
67(+11) Taylor Swift - Lover 486,279 (+27,591)
70(-2) Taylor Swift - august 483,009 (+8,010)
71(+3) Oliver Anthony Music - Rich Men North of Richmond 481,365 (+16,715)
73(+4) Dua Lipa - Dance the Night 480,855 (+21,366)
74(+12) Jung Kook, Jack Harlow - 3D 480,589 (+36,405)
76(-21) Offset, Travis Scott - SAY MY GRACE 475,843 (-22,723)
77(+10) Myke Towers - LALA 474,208 (+32,289)
78(+23) Malum, Carin Leon - Según Quién 414,449 (+18,916) *NEW PEAK*
79(-9) TV Girl - Lovers Rock 468,872 (-3,241)
81(-9) Travis Scott, Playboi Carti - FE!N 468,061 (-112)
84(=) Zach Bryan, Noah Kahan - Sarah's Place 460,802 (+9,882)
87(-8) David Kushner - Daylight 459,545 (+1,227)
91(+5) Nicki Minaj, Ice Spice - Barbie World 443,470 (+22,001)
93(DEBUT) Kali Uchis - Te Mata 439,705
95(=) Noah Kahan, Post Malone - Dial Drunk Remix 436,881 (+14,891)
98(-5) Zach Bryan - Tourniquet 424,377 (+720)
100(-10) PARTYNEXTDOOR - Break from Toronto 421,919 (-6,521)

101(-2) Zach Bryan - Sun to Me 419,910 (+1,939)
102(+14) Ken Carson - Fighting My Demons 413,124 (+23,305)
103(+3) Olivia Rodrigo - all-american bitch 411,951 (+6,636)
109(+53) Fuerza Regida - SABOR FRESA 407,727 (+63,900) (+19%)
113(DEBUT) Lil Uzi Vert - NFL 399,401
114(-9) Junior H - Y LLORO 397,163 (-9,535)
118(-8) Drake - Daylight 386,465 (-9,181)
121(re-entry) Fuerza Regida - TQM 384,782
122(-9) Drake, 21 Savage - Calling for You 393,468 (-26,157)
128(+9) Ice Spice - Deli 376,564 (+14,121)
131(re-entry) blink-182 - ONE MORE TIME 374,130
132(+12) Jessie Murphy, Jelly Roll - Wild Ones 373,865 (+17,567)
135(-7) Laufey - From the Start 371,745 (+2,572)
136(-14) TV Girl - Not Allowed 371,112 (-8,089)
137(-22) Drake - 8am in Charlotte 370,388 (-19,660)
138(-65) Taylor Swift - Cruel Summer (LP Giobbi Remix) 369,584 (-97,270) (-21%)
141(DEBUT) blink-182 - DANCE WITH ME 363,784
142(+17) Taylor Swift - Lavender Haze 363,754 (+18,239)
145(+11) SUICIDAL-IDOL - ecstacy (slowed) 361,566 (+13,241)
147(-16) Peso Pluma, Jasiel Nuñez - LAGUNAS 360,533 (-4,851)
151(+4) Taylor Swift - All Too Well (10 Minute Version) 358,653 (+9,952)
152(-9) Steve Lacy - Infrunami 358,403 (+1,709)
153(+13) Bryan Martin - We Ride 357,474 (+21,017) *NEW PEAK*
168(-22) Richy Mitch & The Coal Miners - Evergreen 347,068 (-8,019)
170(+5) Taylor Swift - Getaway Car 344,876 (+13,123)
188(re-entry) Taylor Swift - Shake It Off 336,217
191(DEBUT) blink-182 - FELL IN LOVE 335,002
192(-24) Zach Bryan, The Lumineers - Spotless 334,654 (-2,227)
194(re-entry) Peso Pluma, Grupo Frontera - TULUM 333,807
195(re-entry) Taylor Swift - Delicate 333,273

Total Streams for Cruel Summer: 2,337,794 (would be #1 with combined streams)

Total First Day Streams for blink-182 - ONE MORE TIME [4/17]: 1,650,147

Biggest Gains (50K+): SABOR FRESA, Según Quién, Seven, Que Onda, Water, Agora Hills, Last Night, greedy, First Person Shooter

[parrotparent]

Oct 21, 2023 13:11:33 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

It's tragic that after all those album bombs 124 points is enough for a #10...

the way Never Really Over would've been a top 5 single if released today lol.

Does anyone have a screenshot of the points from the week leading into Christmas 2022? I would think the only song that stands a chance here is Cruel Summer.

[theycallmedualian]

Oct 20, 2023 14:10:19 GMT -5 awkwardowl said:

With 4 TVs and 4 post-Big Machine albums, it's interesting to see if Taylor's team will try to break Billboard 200 (maybe not with this release) records like they did with Midnights in Hot 100. 10/10 doesn't look possible but maybe full top 3 + 3-4 other entries in top 10?

come to think of it, getting 10 out of 10 on the albums 200 chart could actually be doable for her with a proper marketing strategy.  she can do some kind of special 'the end of eras tour' promo and release special Live Vinyl / CD her past 10 albums, make it known that they are all limited production items with only 100k copies available to gin up hysteria. all it takes then is to announce it during a weak moment in the chart where #1 is about 70k units and bam, she could take up all 10.

[theycallmedualian]

Oct 21, 2023 12:55:01 GMT -5 Mayman said:

Oct 21, 2023 4:48:01 GMT -5 theycallmedualian said:

i said this a few times and ill say it again: there is even a chance of another #1 after slvt, if swifties refrain from buying blank space TV or style TV (or whichever having the 2nd most streams) on itunes, and then mass-buy it the week after slvt claimed the top spot. 

with the charts being so weak right now, if taylor's team were to drop a remix/instrumental version and it gets ~30k downloads then it could totally happen. not sure if theyre cooking this up or not, though.  

You have said this over and over and it's not happening unless there is an actual push and focused effort from Taylor's team. All of the standard re-recordings / non vault tracks typically peak first week in streams and then collapse after. That's the pattern established with the first three re-recordings. I'm sure 1989 will still hold better than the others but it still will follow that I'm sure. You really can't "mass buy" with just iTunes. You can only buy one copy per song unless there's multiple versions, which why would Taylor do all of that for an old song? It just doesn't make any sense. If she decides to do focus on pushing any song - it's going to be a new one

yea im obviously kinda wishfully wishing it, but if something like a "style TV ft. harry styles' were to be released then im sure it could happen. will depend on her team though. 

[Darkest Hour]

Oct 22, 2023 1:45:53 GMT -5 parrotparent said:

Oct 21, 2023 13:11:33 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

It's tragic that after all those album bombs 124 points is enough for a #10...

the way Never Really Over would've been a top 5 single if released today lol.

Does anyone have a screenshot of the points from the week leading into Christmas 2022? I would think the only song that stands a chance here is Cruel Summer.

You can expect even higher points for Christmas songs and lower points for non-Christmas songs this year.