Billboard Hot 100: 11/11/2023

[whaleblubber]

Oct 28, 2023 11:38:01 GMT -5 awkwardowl said:

Oct 28, 2023 11:03:07 GMT -5 whaleblubber said:

Slut! probably ends up debuting at #2 IMO-- the final charts probably look something like
1. Cruel Summer
2. Slut!
3. Paint The Town Red
4. Is It Over Now?
5. Say Don't Go
6. Snooze
7. Bad Blood (TV)
8. I Remember Everything
9. Thinkin' Bout Me
10. Suburban Legends

No way that Slut lost to CS with 5M debut + I suppose some vault tracks can overtake CS too. "I Can See You" had a 4.0x multiplier for a first week to first day. So even with something like 3.5x-3.7x it should have 18.5-19.5M streams from Spotify alone. Doubling these numbers (ICSY had 12.6M streams from Spotify and 12.1M from other sources), this track will overtake CS by streams alone.

Cruel Summer also has a huge advantage in radio though... well we can hope, Cruel Summer - Slut! - Cruel Summer would be such fun.

[awkwardowl]

Oct 28, 2023 11:57:43 GMT -5 whaleblubber said:

Oct 28, 2023 11:38:01 GMT -5 awkwardowl said:

No way that Slut lost to CS with 5M debut + I suppose some vault tracks can overtake CS too. "I Can See You" had a 4.0x multiplier for a first week to first day. So even with something like 3.5x-3.7x it should have 18.5-19.5M streams from Spotify alone. Doubling these numbers (ICSY had 12.6M streams from Spotify and 12.1M from other sources), this track will overtake CS by streams alone.

Cruel Summer also has a huge advantage in radio though... well we can hope, Cruel Summer - Slut! - Cruel Summer would be such fun.

It's not that huge even for other vault songs.

[fengyu]

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Oct 28, 2023 18:57:09 GMT -5 fengyu said:

The queen of streaming 

[jasper0102]

Oct 28, 2023 10:27:57 GMT -5 Ryan said:

Honestly the most interesting thing about this prediction is that Thinkin Bout Me and Greedy will be 5 and 10 respectively without Taylor. Also gaurantees they will both get new peaks next week (likely 4th for Morgan and 8th for Tate) though that's assuming none of the vault tracks stay in the top 10 next week (which i doubt will happen anyways).

Oct 28, 2023 10:29:16 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

US Spotify - 10/26/23
141(re-entry) Bobby "Boris" Pickett, The Crypt-Kickers - Monster Mash 380,312
142(re-entry) The Citizens of Halloween - This is Halloween 378,917
156(re-entry) Michael Jackson - Thriller 362,870

Maybe Taylor won't stifle the Halloween music mutch after all if they're already re-entering amidst the debuts of her and Brent Faiyaz.
Speaking of which, i won't be shocked if we get a repeat of 10/28 week where the only debuts are from 2 artists (Taylor and Brent), unless one of the Halloween songs is a debut.

[Darkest Hour]

United States Apple Music Top Songs - Saturday
3+67 Taylor Swift - "Slut!" (Taylor's Version) [From The Vault]
5+51 Taylor Swift - Is It Over Now? (Taylor's Version) [From The Vault]
8+58 Taylor Swift - Say Don't Go (Taylor's Version) [From The Vault]
9+70 Taylor Swift - Style (Taylor's Version)
10+61 Taylor Swift - Now That We Don't Talk (Taylor's Version) [From The Vault]
11+81 Taylor Swift - Blank Space (Taylor's Version)
14+93 Taylor Swift - Out Of The Woods (Taylor's Version)
15+96 Taylor Swift - Welcome To New York (Taylor's Version)
16+99 Taylor Swift - Suburban Legends (Taylor's Version) [From The Vault]
19+135 Taylor Swift - Wildest Dreams (Taylor's Version)
21+107 Taylor Swift - All You Had To Do Was Stay (Taylor's Version)
26+142 Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Taylor's Version)
27+168 Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (Taylor's Version)
29+150 Taylor Swift - New Romantics (Taylor's Version)
30+138 Taylor Swift - Clean (Taylor's Version)
32+140 Taylor Swift - I Wish You Would (Taylor's Version)
35 (+6) Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (Taylor's Version) [feat. Kendrick Lamar]
36+159 Taylor Swift - How You Get The Girl (Taylor's Version)
37+199 Taylor Swift - This Love (Taylor’s Version)
40+147 Taylor Swift - I Know Places (Taylor's Version)
41+173 Taylor Swift - Wonderland (Taylor's Version)
44 (-14) Taylor Swift - You Are In Love (Taylor's Version)

68 (+90) Michael Jackson - Thriller
85 (+77) The Citizens of Halloween - This Is Halloween
105 (NEW) Ray Parker Jr. - Ghostbusters
106 (NEW) Bobby "Boris" Pickett & The Crypt-Kickers - Monster Mash
190 (NEW) Rihanna - Disturbia

United States Apple Music Top Albums - Saturday
1 = Taylor Swift - 1989 (Taylor's Version)
3 -1 Brent Faiyaz - Larger Than Life
4 = Taylor Swift - 1989 (Taylor's Version) [Deluxe]

[Darkest Hour]

From TOTC discord, second day of 1989TV on US Spotify:

[cooper]

Yikes that’s a rough drop

[suburbandreams]

Slightly better drop than Speak Now TV. Not unexpected considering how big first day streams were. TV always have bigger drops than studio albums.

[Ryan]

[jasper0102]

I love the fact she lost half of her streams but all of her songs still held in the top 30 (though that isn’t that surprising given how well her first day was).
Anyways ig Rich Baby Daddy is gonna be in the top 10 next week now?

[thegreatdivine]

Oct 22, 2023 13:55:50 GMT -5 Mayman said:

Oct 22, 2023 11:26:10 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Rich Baby Daddy is up to #2 on US Apple Music 👀

Fifth #1 from the album incoming!

We're here. 

[Enigma.]

Not surprised that Slut didn't hold on Spotify.

[Rhythm Nation]

Without music videos or promo appearances, 1989tv will keep seeing steep drops. The us tour is over and movie hype too.

[Envoirment]

Fingers crossed "Is It Over?" can get to #1! Maybe she'll release a music video or something mid-week to boost some of the songs? Really wish they would push "Is It Over?" over "Slut!", the latter is one of her weakest vault tracks for me.

[mms82]

I’m kinda bummed people aren’t connecting with Slut! I love the song, and it’d be an iconic number one name in her catalog

[ificanthaveyou]

Oct 29, 2023 10:49:11 GMT -5 Envoirment said:

Fingers crossed "Is It Over?" can get to #1! Maybe she'll release a music video or something mid-week to boost some of the songs? Really wish they would push "Is It Over?" over "Slut!", the latter is one of her weakest vault tracks for me.

Wouldn’t it be something if she releases Slut! remixes midweek to secure its #1, and then a Is It Over? MV next week with remixes to secure a second #1

[atg]

Oct 29, 2023 4:22:53 GMT -5 suburbandreams said:

Slightly better drop than Speak Now TV. Not unexpected considering how big first day streams were. TV always have bigger drops than studio albums.

This makes me excited on what numbers TS11 could do. Midnights had the hype from gaining a whole new audience with Folklore/Evermore and then the first 2 TV albums but TS11 will have the hype from Midnights and about 2 or 3 TV’s depending on if she takes a break with the re-recordings or not.

[Fears in the Fire]

Oct 29, 2023 6:18:47 GMT -5 jasper0102 said:

I love the fact she lost half of her streams but all of her songs still held in the top 30 (though that isn’t that surprising given how well her first day was).
Anyways ig Rich Baby Daddy is gonna be in the top 10 next week now?

That’s because they anticipate the drops and account for them in the predictions

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - 10/26/23

Taylor Swift - 1989 (Taylor's Version) [22/22]
1(+1) Is It Over Now? 2,950,409 (-1,903,316) (-39%) *NEW PEAK*
2(+2) Now That We Don't Talk 2,694,696 (-2,011,404) (-43%) *NEW PEAK*
3(-2) "Slut!" 2,639,758 (-2,626,427) (-50%)
4(-1) Say Don't Go 2,566,977 (-2,280,316) (-47%)
5(=) Style (Taylor's Version) 2,154,685 (-2,302,591) (-52%)
6(+1) Suburban Legends 2,110,701 (-1,977,731) (-48%) *NEW PEAK*
7(+1) Blank Space (Taylor's Version) 1,926,199 (-2,138,105) (-53%) *NEW PEAK*
8(+1) Out of the Woods (Taylor's Version) 1,895,995 (-2,021,854) (-52%) *NEW PEAK*
9(-3) Welcome to New York (Taylor's Version) 1,796,625 (-2,345,876) (-57%)
10(+1) Wildest Dreams (Taylor's Version) 1,677,096 (-1,462,775) (-47%) *NEW PEAK*
11(-1) All You Had to Do Was Stay (Taylor's Version) 1,657,509 (-1,728,042) (-51%)
12(+4) New Romantics (Taylor's Version) 1,542,859 (-1,335,354) (-46%) *NEW PEAK*
13(=) I Wish You Could 1,509,149 (-1,524,812) (-50%)
14(+1) Clean (Taylor's Version) 1,498,080 (-1,451,865) (-49%) *NEW PEAK*
15(-3) Shake It Off (Taylor's Version) 1,471,890 (-1,587,804)
16(+1) How You Get the Girl (Taylor's Version) 1,389,709 (-1,359,441) (-49%) *NEW PEAK*
17(-3) Bad Blood (Taylor's Version) 1,384,407 (-1,604,643)
18(=) I Know Places (Taylor's Version) 1,381,408 (-1,247,073)
19(=) Wonderland (Taylor's Version) 1,354,187 (-1,223,632)
21(-1) This Love (Taylor's Version) 1,307,844 (-1,219,339)
22(-1) You Are in Love (Taylor's Version) 1,304,178 (-1,155,587)
27(-4) Bad Blood [feat. Kendrick Lamar] (Taylor's Version) 1,028,532 (-423,522)
Total Second Day Streams: 39,242,893 (-48%)

Top 10 Without 1989 TV
20(+2) Drake, Yeat - IDGAF 1,316,628 (-215,856)
23(+3) Doja Cat - Paint the Town Red 1,192,720 (-39,573)
24(=) Bad Bunny - MONACO 1,188,804 (-144,104)
25(=) Taylor Swift - Cruel Summer 1,167,500 (-134,448)
26(+1) Zach Bryan, Kacey Musgraves - I Remember Everything 1,030,710 (-145,267)
28(=) Mitski - My Love Mine All Mine 951,268 (-201,964)
29(+1) Gunna - fukumean 950,255 (-76,581)
30(-1) Tate McRae - greedy 931,235 (-177,278)
31(+3) Morgan Wallen - Last Night 875,085 (-54,772)
32(-1) Drake, J. Cole - First Person Shooter 853,188 (-159,953)

Other:
33(=) Doja Cat - Agora Hills 852,483 (-78,411)
34(-2) Noah Kahan - Stick Season 835,538 (-165,119)
35(=) Bad Bunny, Feid - PERRO NEGRO 797,798 (-58,819)
37(+1) Drake, Sexyy Red, SZA - Rich Baby Daddy 730,965 (-35,674)
38(-1) Lil Tecca - 500lbs 716,466 (-81,363)
39(-3) Travis Scott - I KNOW ? 707,658 (-102,802)
40(+3) Olivia Rodrigo - vampire 692,782 (-6,263)
41(-2) Zach Bryan - Something in the Orange 679,259 (-77,998)
42(-1) Tyla - Water 675,606 (-53,243)
43(-1) SZA - Snooze 657,348 (-58,484)
44(+97) Bobby "Boris" Pickett, The Crypt-Kickers - Monster Mash 646,430 (+266,118) (+70%)
45(=) Peso Pluma, Gabito Ballesteros, Junior H - LADY GAGA 638,129 (-33,333)
46(+2) KAROL G, Peso Pluma - QLONA 611,077 (-28,333)
47(+95) The Citizens of Halloween - This is Halloween 596,448 (+217,531) (+57%)
48(-2) Kenya Grace - Strangers 587,043 (-81,666)
50(=) Morgan Wallen - Thinkin' Bout Me 574,066 (-41,222)
51(+105) Michael Jackson - Thriller 561,400 (+198,530) (+55%)
52(-1) Bad Bunny, Young Miko - FINA 547,745 (-61,481)
55(-6) Drake - Virginia Beach 524,104 (-101,415)
58(+2) Olivia Rodrigo - bad idea right? 518,479 (-32,287)
59(-3) Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero 518,272 (-50,091)
60(-1) Calle 24, Chino Pacas, Fuerza Regida - Que Onda 515,421 (-37,803)
63(-8) Frank Ocean - Pink + White 500,354 (-75,680)
64(+5) Luke Combs - Fast Car 481,690 (-33,246)
65(+15) Dua Lipa - Dance the Night 478,084 (-5,014)
66(+2) Taylor Swift - Karma 468,144 (-48,042)
67(=) Billie Eilish - What Was I Made For? 466,855 (-53,266)
68(-24) Taylor Swift - Style 466,488 (-226,423) (-33%)
70(-6) Drake, SZA - Slime You Out 458,674 (-74,435)
71(+1) Taylor Swift - Don't Blame Me 456,802 (-48,734)
73(-11) Troye Sivan - One Of Your Girls 441,255 (-103,649)
74(+18) Myke Towers - LALA 439,210 (-22,648)
76(-5) Travis Scott, Drake - MELTDOWN 436,013 (-70,873)
78(-1) Zach Bryan, The War and Treaty - Hey Driver 434,597 (-57,432)
79(DEBUT) The Living Tombstone - Five Nights at Freddy's 433,971
81(+4) Zach Bryan - Heading South 432,940 (-44,476)
82(+36) Nicki Minaj, Ice Spice - Barbie World 426,302 (+21,960)
86(re-entry) Grupo Frontera, Grupo Firme - EL AMOR DE SU VIDA 423,441
87(re-entry) Rockwell - Somebody's Watching Me 421,701
88(-35) Taylor Swift - Blank Space 421,441 (-159,998) (-28%)
90(+6) Lil Mabu, chriseanrock - MR. TAKE YA BITCH 414,980 (-35,236) *NEW PEAK*
95(-2) Taylor Swift - Lover 411,101 (-48,788)
96(-26) Brent Faiyaz - Clouded 407,194 (-104,147)
97(+29) Ice Spice - Deli 406,881 (+9,564)
98(+8) Maluma, Carin Leon - Según Quién 404,594 (-27,345)
99(-1) Oliver Anthony Music - Rich Men North of Richmond 399,378 (-42,391)

101(-10) TV Girl - Lovers Rock 399,074 (-64,038)
103(+11) Olivia Rodrigo - get him back! 397,043 (-17,023)
104(-4) David Kushner - Daylight 395,006 (-45,486)
106(-23) Taylor Swift - cardigan 393,256 (-85,460)
109(-19) Taylor Swift - august 386,792 (-80,639)
112(+1) Bad Bunny - UN PREVIEW 381,154 (-35,941)
113(-18) Travis Scott, SZA, Future - TELEKINESIS 380,513 (-71,235)
115(+2) Bad Bunny - WHERE SHE GOES 376,576 (-29,266)
118(-3) PARTYNEXTDOOR - Break from Toronto 363,440 (-45,886)
119(-8) Travis Scott, Playboi Carti - FE!N 361,354 (-60,144)
122(-2) Zach Bryan - Sun to Me 359,721 (-41,137)
126(-1) Drake, Bad Bunny - Gently 351,716 (-45,845)
129(+10) Zach Bryan, Noah Kahan - Sarah's Place 349,224 (-35,158)
130(re-entry) Sexyy Red - SkeeYee 347,096
132(+1) Bad Bunny, Mora - HIBIKI 346,856 (-41,052)
134(=) Noah Kahan, Post Malone - Dial Drunk Remix 346,169 (-41,165)
139(re-entry) Ray Parker Jr. - Ghostbusters 339,744
140(-17) The Kid LAROI, Jung Kook, Central Cee - TOO MUCH 337,198 (-62,076) (-16%)
143(+1) Jung Kook, Jack Harlow - 3D 333,523 (-42,871)
144(re-entry) Nelly Furtado, Timbaland - Promicuous 333,312
146(-11) Junior H - Y LLORO 331,933 (-55,232)
151(-15) Jessie Murphy, Jelly Roll - Wild Ones 329,433 (-56,296
153(+14) Bryan Martin - We Ride 328,275 (-57,454)
154(-5) Bad Bunny - MR. OCTOBER 328,275 (-42,650)
155(re-entry) Rihanna - Disturbia 327,853
156(-11) TV Girl - Not Allowed 325,349 (-13,390)
158(+25) HARDY - TRUCK BED 324,705 (-13,390)
160(-6) Bad Bunny - BABY NUEVA 323,217 (-43,293)
164(+10) Fuerza Regida - SABOR FRESA 320,838 (-25,004)
167(-38) Offset, Travis Scott - SAY MY GRACE 318,250 (-76,415) (-19%)
170(+18) Chris Stapleton - White Horse 315,529 (-19,297)
174(-1) Peso Pluma, Jasiel Nuñez - LAGUNAS 311,065 (-35,546)
178(re-entry) Andrew Gold - Spooky, Scary Skeletons (Undead Tombstone Remix) 308,187
179(+18) Aliyah's Interlude - IT GIRL 307,953 (-21,830)
181(-5) Bad Bunny - CYBERTRUCK 305,892 (-38,716)
182(-17) Zach Bryan - Tourniquet 305,267 (-49,294)
183(-11) Dylan Gossett - Coal 305,228 (-41,585) (-12%)
185(re-entry) Rod Wave, 21 Savage - Turks & Caicos 303,768
194(re-entry) Taylor Swift - Look What You Made Me Do 301,646
195(DEBUT) Gabito Ballesteros, Natanael Cano - LOU LOU 301,494
196(re-entry) Taylor Swift - Love Story (Taylor's Version) 300,940
200(-9) SUICIDAL-IDOL - ecstacy (slowed) 298,966 (-33,912)

Biggest Gains (50K+): Thriller, This is Halloween, Monster Mash

1989 (TV) is the first of her re-recordings to have two songs go to #1!

US TOP 20 WITHOUT 1989 TV
#1. IDGAF
#2. Paint the Town Red
#3. MONACO
#4. Cruel Summer
#5. I Remember Everything
#6. My Love Mine All Mine
#7. fukumean
#8. greedy
#9. Last Night
#10. First Person Shooter

#11. Agora Hills
#12. Stick Season
#13. PERRO NEGRO
#14. Kill Bill
#15. Rich Baby Daddy
#16. 500lbs
#17. I KNOW ?
#18. vampire
#19. Something in the Orange
#20. Water

[Deleted]

imo the hit of the vault tracks is Now That We Don't Talk

[theycallmedualian]

looks like T Swift will have a very last album track to debut #1 on the charts. has this ever been done before?  

also, my "delusion" that if swifties are to prioritize purchasing and pushing a song than isnt the chosen single over to #1, and then if the streams holds well and radio picks up for that said single, then there could be a chance for 2 #1s isnt too far fetched after all.  especially if her team were to activate her base as such. but i suppose she would be happy with just the one.

[ificanthaveyou]

Oct 30, 2023 4:04:30 GMT -5 @stateofgrace said:

imo the hit of the vault tracks is Now That We Don't Talk

Agreed this one is definitely the most catchy and has the best hook! I’d say my favorite vault tracks are:

1) Slut!
2) Now That We Don’t Talk
3) Is it Over Now?
4) Suburban Legends
5) Say Don’t Go

[telso]

Oct 30, 2023 9:54:31 GMT -5 ificanthaveyou said:

Oct 30, 2023 4:04:30 GMT -5 @stateofgrace said:

imo the hit of the vault tracks is Now That We Don't Talk

Agreed this one is definitely the most catchy and has the best hook! I’d say my favorite vault tracks are:

1) Slut!
2) Now That We Don’t Talk
3) Is it Over Now?
4) Suburban Legends
5) Say Don’t Go

Gave them a listen:

1. Say Don't Go
2. Is It Over Now?
>>>
3. "Slut!"
4. Now That We Don't Talk
>>>
5. Suburban Legends

Sorry, the last three sound like Midnights rejects to me. NTWDT sounds straight up unfinished. "Suburban Legends" just sounds like a mess. "Say Don't Go" however is a huge banger, and definitely feels the most like a lost 1989 track.

[mms82]

Oct 30, 2023 9:17:54 GMT -5 theycallmedualian said:

looks like T Swift will have a very last album track to debut #1 on the charts. has this ever been done before?  

also, my "delusion" that if swifties are to prioritize purchasing and pushing a song than isnt the chosen single over to #1, and then if the streams holds well and radio picks up for that said single, then there could be a chance for 2 #1s isnt too far fetched after all.  especially if her team were to activate her base as such. but i suppose she would be happy with just the one.

Jimmy Cooks

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2023 » / « 10 » / « 30 »

1(=) Taylor Swift - Cruel Summer 86.42(-0.14)
2(=) Doja Cat - Paint The Town Red 75.97(-0.12)
3(=) SZA - Snooze 74.46(-0.36)
4(=) Luke Combs - Fast Car 68.35(-0.31)
5(=) Rema & Selena Gomez - Calm Down 65.43(+0.71) +
6(=) Jelly Roll - Need A Favor 57.23(-0.17)
7(=) Dua Lipa - Dance The Night 54.46(-0.65)
8(=) Miley Cyrus - Used To Be Young 53.93(+0.67)
9(=) Doechii - What It Is (Block Boy) 52.95(+0.21)
10(+1) Morgan Wallen - Thinkin' Bout Me 50.95(+0.75)

20(=) Dylan Scott - Can't Have Mine (Find You A..) 36.08(+0.67)

67(=) Tyla - Water 16.84(+0.64)

68(+1) Olivia Rodrigo - get him back! 16.23(+0.80)

-(-) Green Day - The American Dream Is Killing Me 10.12(+1.33)

-(-) The Kid LAROI, Jung Kook & Central Cee - TOO MUCH 7.84(+0.85)

-(-)  Maluma - Según Quién (feat. Carin Leon) 4.29(+1.48) +

-(-) Davido - UNAVAILABLE 3.10(+2.33) +

-(-) Offset & Don Toliver - WORTH IT 1.96(+1.31) +

-(-) Bad Bunny - MONACO 1.80(+1.06) +

[Music Fan]

Oct 30, 2023 13:47:29 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2023 » / « 10 » / « 30 »

1(=) Taylor Swift - Cruel Summer 86.42(-0.14)
2(=) Doja Cat - Paint The Town Red 75.97(-0.12)
3(=) SZA - Snooze 74.46(-0.36)
4(=) Luke Combs - Fast Car 68.35(-0.31)
5(=) Rema & Selena Gomez - Calm Down 65.43(+0.71) +
6(=) Jelly Roll - Need A Favor 57.23(-0.17)
7(=) Dua Lipa - Dance The Night 54.46(-0.65)
8(=) Miley Cyrus - Used To Be Young 53.93(+0.67)
9(=) Doechii - What It Is (Block Boy) 52.95(+0.21)
10(+1) Morgan Wallen - Thinkin' Bout Me 50.95(+0.75)

20(=) Dylan Scott - Can't Have Mine (Find You A..) 36.08(+0.67)

67(=) Tyla - Water 16.84(+0.64)

68(+1) Olivia Rodrigo - get him back! 16.23(+0.80)

-(-) Green Day - The American Dream Is Killing Me 10.12(+1.33)

-(-) The Kid LAROI, Jung Kook & Central Cee - TOO MUCH 7.84(+0.85)

-(-)  Maluma - Según Quién (feat. Carin Leon) 4.29(+1.48) +

-(-) Davido - UNAVAILABLE 3.10(+2.33) +

-(-) Offset & Don Toliver - WORTH IT 1.96(+1.31) +

-(-) Bad Bunny - MONACO 1.80(+1.06) +

Glad to see Morgan with another Top 10 on radio ... likely headed for Top 5.

[85la]

Surprised no one has mentioned this yet, but the nominations for the Billboard Music Awards (which will air on Nov. 19) came out a few days ago, and they cut down the year-end tracking period by 3 weeks earlier than expected (as if it's not cut short enough already) to align with the awards tracking period.

From the article: "The eligibility dates for this year’s awards are aligned with Billboard’s year-end charts tracking period, which measures music consumption from the charts dated Nov. 19, 2022, through Oct. 21, 2023. (That corresponds to the tracking period of Nov. 4, 2022 through Oct. 12, 2023.)"

www.billboard.com/music/awards/2023-billboard-music-awards-nominees-list-1235454697/

[eagle27]

Thriller projected to go top 25. Almost top 10 without 1989TV

[enwhy]

Oct 30, 2023 16:41:14 GMT -5 eagle27 said:

Thriller projected to go top 25. Almost top 10 without 1989TV

Any Halloween predictions are just complete guesses until Wednesday. The vast majority of the streams come on Halloween itself, and we won't know those numbers until the day after.

That being said, with such a weak chart I wouldn't be that shocked if Halloween songs make a solid impact this year despite Taylor's album bomb.