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Post by justlurkingaround on Jun 22, 2024 17:55:07 GMT -5
Those London N1 surprise songs were UNHINGED. The Black Dog x Come Back... Be Here x Maroon should have happened to ME! I was there last night, honestly couldn't believe my luck. Hits Different / Death By A Thousand Cuts with a 'mega bridge'?? Could not have hoped for better. !!!! Maroon is like top 5 in Taylor's discography for me, so I need it to be one of the surprise songs I get for one of the shows I go to! I hope you had the best of time.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jun 22, 2024 20:19:56 GMT -5
I love "Maroon" and all, but my God, it would be nice to hear something she hasn't performed yet as opposed to "Maroon" for the 15th time. lol
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Jun 22, 2024 22:03:03 GMT -5
The idea of not having a second single for TTPD seems very silly.
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 23, 2024 0:32:58 GMT -5
She won't release singles "just because", she wants hits and more #1s, and the easiest way is to release new music. I will stick with the prediction of no more singles - or at least there will be a remix to make people buy and stream it on a sufficient level.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jun 23, 2024 3:36:10 GMT -5
She won't release singles "just because", she wants hits and more #1s, and the easiest way is to release new music. I will stick with the prediction of no more singles - or at least there will be a remix to make people buy and stream it on a sufficient level. It's very clear her focus is on album sales as opposed to single performance. Her primary focus has never been singles. TTPD absolutely has a radio hit or two left to keep things moving along. Both "ICDIWABH" and "DB" have both had great streaming for album cuts, for example. Outside of Folklore and Evermore, which were surprise drops and products of covid, she has never had a studio album with only 1 single and I doubt this will buck that trend. The idea of not having a second single for TTPD seems very silly. Girrrrrl, I'm saying, like....lol
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Post by born on Jun 23, 2024 6:13:03 GMT -5
I love "Maroon" and all, but my God, it would be nice to hear something she hasn't performed yet as opposed to "Maroon" for the 15th time. lol The fact that she sings "Maroon" once in every three shows gives me hope because I need it as a surprise song too
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Post by shanz88 on Jun 23, 2024 6:51:38 GMT -5
I'm convinced she sings Maroon so often because she regrets not just making it part of the regular Midnights set and knows she was wrong for not doing so!
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Post by dwmusiccollector on Jun 23, 2024 8:32:54 GMT -5
Maroon single Release in 3 years?
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Jun 23, 2024 9:01:31 GMT -5
I wept when I heard ‘Maroon’ for the first time live. It’s so special to me and I love that it’s getting its flowers.
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Post by irice22 on Jun 23, 2024 10:26:58 GMT -5
I'm convinced she sings Maroon so often because she regrets not just making it part of the regular Midnights set and knows she was wrong for not doing so! No one will miss "Mastermind"
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Post by dwmusiccollector on Jun 23, 2024 11:35:51 GMT -5
I'm convinced she sings Maroon so often because she regrets not just making it part of the regular Midnights set and knows she was wrong for not doing so! No one will miss "Mastermind" Her 3 cats will sure miss this song.
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Post by shanz88 on Jun 23, 2024 13:04:16 GMT -5
I wept when I heard ‘Maroon’ for the first time live. It’s so special to me and I love that it’s getting its flowers. Maroon is my favorite song of hers (or top 3 at least, it’s so hard for me to pick a true favorite but I can narrow it down to three), and when I got tickets to one of the East Rutherford shows I was so hopeful that I would get it as a surprise song. However, I was night 3 and she put me in my place by performing that the first night and giving night 3 Welcome to New York lol, which I thought would have been performed the first night. So I never thought I would get Maroon live, but I went to night 3 of Paris and I recognized it with the very first couple notes she played on the piano and screamed like a little kid 🤣🤣🤣 My other hope for surprise song in East Rutherford was Cornelia Street, another one of my favorites/top 3—so I am forever envious of all those Liverpool night 1 attendees. Apparently that was the show I needed to get tickets to. Who’d have thought?
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Post by daddy on Jun 23, 2024 14:25:35 GMT -5
Maroon is the best song off Midnights and is way high up in her catalog.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jun 23, 2024 15:10:05 GMT -5
TTPD is now the highest streamed album of the year on Spotify!
Yeah I love "Maroon", I just wanna hear the rest of the songs that have yet to be performed live on tour. lol
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Jun 23, 2024 19:04:02 GMT -5
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Jun 23, 2024 20:38:23 GMT -5
I wept when I heard ‘Maroon’ for the first time live. It’s so special to me and I love that it’s getting its flowers. Maroon is my favorite song of hers (or top 3 at least, it’s so hard for me to pick a true favorite but I can narrow it down to three), and when I got tickets to one of the East Rutherford shows I was so hopeful that I would get it as a surprise song. However, I was night 3 and she put me in my place by performing that the first night and giving night 3 Welcome to New York lol, which I thought would have been performed the first night. So I never thought I would get Maroon live, but I went to night 3 of Paris and I recognized it with the very first couple notes she played on the piano and screamed like a little kid 🤣🤣🤣 My other hope for surprise song in East Rutherford was Cornelia Street, another one of my favorites/top 3—so I am forever envious of all those Liverpool night 1 attendees. Apparently that was the show I needed to get tickets to. Who’d have thought? Are you and I the same person? Maroon and Cornelia were also my top two choices as surprise songs! I luckily was at ER Night #1 so I’m very lucky.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jun 24, 2024 2:51:04 GMT -5
I know I'm likely alone in this, but even though the movie was offensively horrible, I actually loved "Beautiful Ghosts" and want to hear it live. English faux accent aside, that song is so beautiful.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Jun 24, 2024 11:44:21 GMT -5
The Maroon love makes me so happy. Definitely the best song on Midnights.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jun 24, 2024 20:53:41 GMT -5
Yeah, I always thought Midnights was a 1989 sister record (like its older, less glossy, more matured sister) and "Maroon" is one of the few tracks that can stand up against the strongest of 1989. Midnights seems like such a wasted opportunity for a truly amazing pop album. The second half really brings the overall quality down which they easily could have rectified by swapping some deluxe tracks with some of the standard tracks. If the tracklist had been:
1.) "Lavender Haze" 2.) "Maroon" 3.) "Anti-Hero" 4.) "Snow On The Beach (More Lana)" 5.) "Would've Could've Should've" 6.) "Midnight Rain" 7.) "Hits Different" 8.) "You're On Your Own Kid" 9.) "Bejeweled" 10.) "You're Losing Me" 11.) "Karma" 12.) "Mastermind"
It would have been a MUCH stronger pop album. Like, in my top 3 likely.
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Post by theflying on Jun 25, 2024 8:46:18 GMT -5
I actually think Midnights is a really incredible Pop album when the whole body of work is taken into account, and I would dare say it’s underrated as an album amongst Taylor’s fanbase.
Most everyone has a cut or two (mine are Bigger Than The Whole Sky, then Labyrynth), but MAN you can pretty much put Midnights on from front to back and enjoy it over *22 songs* if you include HD and YLM.
Yes, the standard edition is a little underwhelming. But I actually think that while 1989 has the strongest 5-6 undeniable smashes, and reputation has a stronger set of about 12/13 songs, Midnights has a really excellent close to 20 songs. Like there are legit about 18-19 songs I legit want to keep on Midnights, and that is by far her biggest stretch of really quality pop songs contained on to one album.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Jun 25, 2024 9:28:32 GMT -5
Midnights is for sure a solid pop album. Is it her best? No. Has it aged well for me? No. But it’s solid as hell.
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Post by austin on Jun 25, 2024 9:47:48 GMT -5
Midnights is for sure a solid pop album. Is it her best? No. Has it aged well for me? No. But it’s solid as hell. This is how I feel. It’s towards the back of her catalog for me, but her catalog is so strong that I’m not saying I don’t like it. However, TTPD was so so so much more instant and immediate and powerful with me than Midnights ever was. I also echo sentiments above that if she focused on putting the best 13 songs on the album instead of focusing on it being “the Jack album” the perception would be better. Leaving “would’ve could’ve should’ve” off the album deserved prison, but she won’t get time.
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Post by bat1990 on Jun 25, 2024 10:37:27 GMT -5
I looked over the tour stops this morning and realized if she had scheduled some South Africa shows, she would've hit every continent except Antarctica.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jun 25, 2024 10:39:23 GMT -5
Yep. All of y'all's thoughts are similar to mine. Is Midnights a bad album per say? Not at all. I don't even think Taylor is capable of making a truly bad album given her artistry. It's just the 2nd half hinders its true potential to be great and one of her best. I, for the life of me, can't understand why "Hits Different" and "Would've Could've Should've" weren't on the standard edition. Those are two of her best songs (I'd argue top 20). For me, "Would've Could've Should've", the spiritual successor to "Dear John", is really top-tier in her catalog. "Hits Different" would've easily been the best uptempo on the album apart from the lead as well. I feel like Midnights is her only AOTY win that's contestable. Shame they couldn't have waited a year and given it to the much superior The Tortured Poets Department that will undoubtedly go home empty-handed.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Jun 25, 2024 10:44:32 GMT -5
I will say the second half of M has grown on me.
‘Labyrinth’ in particular has really grown on me a lot. I think songs like ‘Vigilante’, ‘Snow…’, ‘Question’ and ‘Sweet Nothing’ - while cute or nice - are just usual skips for me.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jun 25, 2024 11:05:31 GMT -5
I will say the second half of M has grown on me. ‘Labyrinth’ in particular has really grown on me a lot. I think songs like ‘Vigilante’, ‘Snow…’, ‘Question’ and ‘Sweet Nothing’ - while cute or nice - are just usual skips for me. Yeah totally. Like, for instance, I love "Vigilante Shit" and feel its inclusion to the tour, for instance, adds a much-needed grown and sensual element to the show. With that said, I totally understand people's criticisms of it. It's not particularly a masterful song lyrically speaking and it feels a bit half-a*s in the sense Taylor was attempting to show a darker/more gritty side of her persona here that felt more like dipping a toe in the water as opposed to jumping in. "Sweet Nothing" is the typical stripped down, cutesy/cozy song ala "Never Grow Up", "The Best Day" etc that seems to be a reoccurring ingredient in her album recipe. When I heard the title "Labyrinth" it immediately gave me 80s pop banger vibes ala "New Romantics", but unfortunately it's a snail-paced ballad that always dragged a bit for me. The only part I typically enjoy is the beat drop toward the end. "Question...?" is forgettable and melodically uninspired to me. Several of the deluxe tracks should have easily replaced those IMO and Midnights would have been in the top half of many people's Taylor discography selection.
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Post by taylor on Jun 25, 2024 11:17:32 GMT -5
THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT officially hits nine weeks at #1, continuing to gain ground towards Whitney Houston’s record ( Whitney with 11 weeks). I think Taylor wants to reach or surpass her, and she has two weeks to tie that record. Three more weeks at #1 would break Whitney’s record and make TTPD the female album with the most consecutive weeks at its #1 debut in history. I really think Taylor has it in her to break the record, as nine weeks in TTPD once again posted a six-figure sales number (126k). Streaming alone—with no gimmicks added—did that. If she figures out a new variant or two (ahem Blondie, You’re Losing Me/Maroon Edition variant), then I think she’ll take the record with ease. www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200/
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jun 25, 2024 11:32:31 GMT -5
THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT officially hits nine weeks at #1, continuing to gain ground towards Whitney Houston’s record ( Whitney with 11 weeks). I think Taylor wants to reach or surpass her, and she has two weeks to tie that record. Three more weeks at #1 would break Whitney’s record and make TTPD the female album with the most consecutive weeks at its #1 debut in history. I really think Taylor has it in her to break the record, as nine weeks in TTPD once again posted a six-figure sales number (126k). Streaming alone—with no gimmicks added—did that. If she figures out a new variant or two (ahem Blondie, You’re Losing Me/Maroon Edition variant), then I think she’ll take the record with ease. www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200/ 10 is guaranteed and I'd say 11 is likely so the tie is as well. The true question is will she break it? If I remember correctly I believe she can get 12 in before Eminem drops and ends her reign.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 25, 2024 11:36:02 GMT -5
I’m surprised the Dave Grohl drama hasn’t spilled over to here yet. From all that I’ve seen come from it over the last few days though, Swifties are the only ones really who’ve lost the plot.
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Post by dwmusiccollector on Jun 25, 2024 11:41:30 GMT -5
12 weeks would be amazing. It's crazy This Album is so stable. Wish her re-recordings would've been that stable too.
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