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Post by Choco on May 4, 2024 11:45:23 GMT -5
I expected ugly numbers. The rollout was a mess.
She can recover but honestly they need to pivot from this album fast and she gives me the impression she is not gonna be willing to sacrifice her beach trips for that.
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Post by Taylor. on May 4, 2024 11:47:44 GMT -5
Even if the album has disappointed commercially, she has enough hits to her name to likely still sell out a tour, so she'll be fine in that regard. I'm sure they're already planning Radical Optimism: The Seven Seas edition or something, so hopefully she has some hits there.
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Post by fridayteenage on May 4, 2024 12:21:58 GMT -5
she reminds me of Ellie, exactly two top 5 hits each.
But at least ellie was able to top spotify once (with love me like you do).
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Post by thatpolishboy on May 4, 2024 12:50:25 GMT -5
One poor album and she's supposed to turn into an indie artist?..
She's still got one of the most heavily streamed catalogues out there, she'll be fine lol
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Post by stormlover74 on May 4, 2024 13:14:55 GMT -5
she reminds me of Ellie, exactly two top 5 hits each. But at least ellie was able to top spotify once (with love me like you do). New rules was huge and just missed plus she has many more hits under her belt |
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Post by kcdawg13 on May 4, 2024 13:31:50 GMT -5
Dua literally dropped Houdini and then didn't do nothing for it, no late night promo or anything. Only an award show performance 3 months after release which at that point the song already came and went, during FN she had tons of promo for Don't Start Now so I don't know what she was thinking. She isn't on the level of Taylor or Beyonce where she can just drop a song or album randomly and have it be huge, she needs to do promo because her fanbase just isn't that big.
Doesn't help that she performed Training Season at the Grammy's and didn't even drop it officially until like 2 weeks later, I really just don't know how somebody can fumble so badly.
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Post by stormlover74 on May 4, 2024 13:37:52 GMT -5
Dua literally dropped Houdini and then didn't do nothing for it, no late night promo or anything. Only an award show performance 3 months after release which at that point the song already came and went, during FN she had tons of promo for Don't Start Now so I don't know what she was thinking. She isn't on the level of Taylor or Beyonce where she can just drop a song or album randomly and have it be huge, she needs to do promo because her fanbase just isn't that big. Doesn't help that she performed Training Season at the Grammy's and didn't even drop it officially until like 2 weeks later, I really just don't know how somebody can fumble so badly. Now she does snl along with the album launch which makes sense but she'll probably end up doing Illusion and dance the night |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2024 13:40:11 GMT -5
I don’t see any universe where Houdini or TS were smashes under any circumstances (latter had no business ever being a single). I think coming off of her huge FN and Barbie momentum pretty much proved no one (who would realistically do those kind of songs) was making them big. I think it’s kind of that simple when it comes to those. Strangely enough though, I do think Houdini was probably correct for lead and they could’ve squeezed a bit more out of it with a much better video and aforementioned promo from her. Falling Forever was the smash as the 2nd single.
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Post by gs on May 4, 2024 14:02:34 GMT -5
Falling Forever is horribly grating so I'd hope not. These Walls is nice though.
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Post by Push The Button on May 4, 2024 14:19:28 GMT -5
Dua has entered her “she’ll be fine” era. In my 20+ years on Pulse, no pop diva has escaped her “she’ll be fine” era.
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Post by stormlover74 on May 4, 2024 14:26:41 GMT -5
I don’t see any universe where Houdini or TS were smashes under any circumstances (latter had no business ever being a single). I think coming off of her huge FN and Barbie momentum pretty much proved no one (who would realistically do those kind of songs) was making them big. I think it’s kind of that simple when it comes to those. Strangely enough though, I do think Houdini was probably correct for lead and they could’ve squeezed a bit more out of it with a much better video and aforementioned promo from her. Falling Forever was the smash as the 2nd single. I still think Houdini would have done better had we not just had dance the night. Would've been more of a build up of anticipation. |
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Post by iHype. on May 4, 2024 14:33:46 GMT -5
Dua has entered her “she’ll be fine” era. In my 20+ years on Pulse, no pop diva has escaped her “she’ll be fine” era. The dramatics. Dua was never established in US, she was always a singles-artist who depended on multiple smash hits to make the total numbers/outcome fine. Never a first week or momentum type of artist. Even if this album doesn't manage hits, a re-release or new era could get one. This is similar to P!nk's "M!ssundaztood" to "Try This". |
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Post by sedrickwilhelm on May 4, 2024 16:45:04 GMT -5
I don't like being alarmist but there's almost no way to spin these numbers as being good Wow. Only sub-16 million GLOBALLY? For the whole album? I did not think that was possible for someone in her position - but I suppose I did see the writing on the wall this whole year but I never would’ve predicted such a low number. Especially not when “Dance the Night” took off last year. |
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Post by Choco on May 4, 2024 17:22:18 GMT -5
I mean DTN opened poorly too and then the movie saved it's ass. If they get a hit single soon it should be fine but I do reckon this time around the hit single isn't obvious and maybe they'll have to drop a deluxe or move on soon.
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Post by Push The Button on May 4, 2024 18:08:26 GMT -5
Dua has entered her “she’ll be fine” era. In my 20+ years on Pulse, no pop diva has escaped her “she’ll be fine” era. The dramatics. Dua was never established in US, she was always a singles-artist who depended on multiple smash hits to make the total numbers/outcome fine. Never a first week or momentum type of artist. Even if this album doesn't manage hits, a re-release or new era could get one. This is similar to P!nk's "M!ssundaztood" to "Try This". Yeah. She’ll be fine. ;) |
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Post by sedrickwilhelm on May 4, 2024 18:15:13 GMT -5
I mean DTN opened poorly too and then the movie saved it's ass. If they get a hit single soon it should be fine but I do reckon this time around the hit single isn't obvious and maybe they'll have to drop a deluxe or move on soon. You know what you are so right I do remember it did not start that well, it worked its way up. I guess the issue there is this is the argument that should or probably was made for the singles leading up this album which have not managed that at all. |
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Post by After Minutes on May 4, 2024 18:41:28 GMT -5
I wonder if the beef impacted Dua's numbers at all. Obviously her core audience isn't rap fans but this beef has gone far beyond rap
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Post by sedrickwilhelm on May 4, 2024 18:50:52 GMT -5
I wonder if the beef impacted Dua's numbers at all. Obviously her core audience isn't rap fans but this beef has gone far beyond rap That’s very possible. If it was not happening whatsoever then at this point in time the biggest thing in music this week would be the release of her album. |
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Post by sedrickwilhelm on May 4, 2024 18:54:48 GMT -5
KENDRICK LAMAR JUST POSTED ANOTHER.
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Post by Groovy on May 4, 2024 19:06:02 GMT -5
Kendrick chose violence for this beef
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Post by Choco on May 4, 2024 19:17:53 GMT -5
Mind you I don't even know what song she's promoting right now lol.
This Pink Friday 2 era was really fueled by the Barbz because aside from FTCU doing a lil damage back when the album dropped I never see anyone talking about the music. Her antics? Sure. The Night is Still Young thing at her concerts? The most fun she's ever been in years... The new music? Crickets.
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Post by breezy05 on May 4, 2024 19:41:54 GMT -5
We should just stop paying attention to this man. He's getting to Ye levels of mentally unstable at this point. 😂 |
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Post by sedrickwilhelm on May 4, 2024 20:21:06 GMT -5
We should just stop paying attention to this man. He's getting to Ye levels of mentally unstable at this point. 😂 ????? If 25% of what he is saying is true then Drake is far worse than Kendrick being “mentally unstable.” There’s no denying Kendrick is a menace though. Absolute boogieman monster. |
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Post by jdanton2 on May 4, 2024 20:22:55 GMT -5
We should just stop paying attention to this man. He's getting to Ye levels of mentally unstable at this point. 😂 i always found Kendick to be overrated . he has 17 Grammy's which seems to be alot. |
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Post by breezy05 on May 4, 2024 20:31:05 GMT -5
We should just stop paying attention to this man. He's getting to Ye levels of mentally unstable at this point. 😂 ????? If 25% of what he is saying is true then Drake is far worse than Kendrick being “mentally unstable.” There’s no denying Kendrick is a menace though. Absolute boogieman monster. That first part may be true but it doesn't change the fact that Kendrick needs to shut up. This new song is literally just him repeating himself for four minutes. |
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Post by jenglisbe on May 4, 2024 20:36:34 GMT -5
We should just stop paying attention to this man. He's getting to Ye levels of mentally unstable at this point. 😂 i always found Kendick to be overrated . he has 17 Grammy's which seems to be alot. Which Grammys would you take back? I think he deserves more considering he lost Rap Album to Macklemore once, and he's never won AOTY. Anyway the "Not Like Us" beat is fire. |
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Post by Groovy on May 4, 2024 20:40:10 GMT -5
This is the first great rap beef we’ve had since Nas-Jay Z? 50-JaRule? I want this to keep going and see how Drake responds, especially since he’s not saying anything about that other allegation.
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Post by sedrickwilhelm on May 4, 2024 20:41:04 GMT -5
????? If 25% of what he is saying is true then Drake is far worse than Kendrick being “mentally unstable.” There’s no denying Kendrick is a menace though. Absolute boogieman monster. That first part may be true but it doesn't change the fact that Kendrick needs to shut up. This new song is literally just him repeating himself for four minutes. Haha come on now.. Kenny just went and smoked him again, this song is HOT |
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Post by lostinhavana on May 4, 2024 20:42:56 GMT -5
so far euphoria is the only kendrick diss on streaming (well on apple i'm assuming it's probably the same for spotify??) it'll be interesting how high meet the grahams & Not Like Us debut assuming they'll remain youtube only
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Post by sedrickwilhelm on May 4, 2024 20:52:32 GMT -5
so far euphoria is the only kendrick diss on streaming (well on apple i'm assuming it's probably the same for spotify??) it'll be interesting how high meet the grahams & Not Like Us debut assuming they'll remain youtube only I’m starting to believe this is gonna be a diss album. |
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