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Post by Choco on Aug 10, 2024 10:18:29 GMT -5
#198 Spotify USA.
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Post by Maximillian on Aug 10, 2024 11:18:00 GMT -5
Ouch. I am actually surprised by the low debut on Spotify. I didn’t expect anything high but barely scraping Top 200? Oof.
I don’t think people can or should underestimate how much WW hurt her this era. It’s sad to see tbh.
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Post by wavey. on Aug 10, 2024 11:32:39 GMT -5
I don't even think it's from WW. Her label is barely promoting anything from her. Just a post/tweet here and there. Didn't give WW any placement but a radio deal.( regardless of how ppl personally felt about the song). Yes she's not in her prime, but damn what's with the minimal promo?
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Post by avamaxstan on Aug 10, 2024 13:05:10 GMT -5
Welp, another buzz single in the casket…
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Post by Choco on Aug 10, 2024 16:13:28 GMT -5
Perfect storm. She was already struggling but then she dropped a middling song, a terrible video, a controversial producer choice and addressed none of it whatsoever probably to not anger said producer because her team was dumb enough to get him on the whole album.
This project got a lot of hype, it was going fairly well until that terrible WW's snippet came out. Then it was leaked that Luke was heavily involved and by the time the song bombed there were enough signs there for the label to not waste any more resources on the album.
Honestly WW was a terrible choice but it was even dumber to go so hard for it on radio. If it had straight up bombed they could have at least used the radio deal budget for this which is way less polarizing. It's alright radio fodder that could have even gotten people to stream it and build a bit of hype on streaming apps. Or you know, any of the other songs bc some Katycats keep saying the 21 Savage song is a surefire hit. Granted neither Katy nor her most engaged fanbase seem to know what a current hit is, but I'm 100% sure there's gotta be better choices than the song that goes "sexy confident so intelligent" in robotic voice and completely kills the vibe instantly.
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Post by Ryan on Aug 11, 2024 4:20:46 GMT -5
Left both Global and US Spotify charts. Ouch.
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Post by Enigma. on Aug 11, 2024 5:39:23 GMT -5
It might be the whole discourse and "anti hype" around her atm, but I find her voice so irritating on a song like this. It suits better for vibe-y mid tempo tracks and not these screechy songs. Just my opinion of course.
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Post by Dylan :) on Aug 11, 2024 7:44:52 GMT -5
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Post by NeRD on Aug 11, 2024 9:13:30 GMT -5
I don't think her label will bother pushing this to radio. Looking like they'll leave her album out to bomb.
No idea what they were thinking with Woman's World.
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Post by leonagwen on Aug 11, 2024 10:47:07 GMT -5
Her peak years are over, happens to all music artists.
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Post by Dylan :) on Aug 11, 2024 14:57:11 GMT -5
As promised :)
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Post by munx 🐒🎯 on Aug 12, 2024 12:26:15 GMT -5
If the songs weren’t mediocre as f*ck, I’m sure she’d be getting more interest.
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Post by HamedM1 💔 on Aug 12, 2024 14:47:56 GMT -5
This is making Small Talk look like a massive hit by comparison
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Aug 12, 2024 14:52:12 GMT -5
well tbh, Small Talk came after NRO and was at #1 on TTH.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Aug 13, 2024 10:02:58 GMT -5
Damn, this is really good! Thanks for sharing.
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Post by Choco on Aug 13, 2024 20:26:02 GMT -5
well tbh, Small Talk came after NRO and was at #1 on TTH. And people still say this is flopping because of not being on that particular playlist. Honestly this is inoffensive enough that it would have done better than WW as the lead. It's just that WW tanked so badly...
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Post by Enigma. on Aug 13, 2024 23:05:36 GMT -5
So they just saw a spot and went "oh let's film the video here" lol
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Post by wavey. on Aug 13, 2024 23:50:38 GMT -5
Ch-
Nvm. I'm sure they didn't destroy anything for a few beach shots😵💫(imo).
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Post by munx 🐒🎯 on Aug 14, 2024 10:16:01 GMT -5
Eesh. This era isn’t going well.
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Post by eyeofthestorm on Aug 14, 2024 17:29:11 GMT -5
oh well, i’m still bopping to this one. i hope the album has some more like it.
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Post by Mayman on Aug 14, 2024 18:00:33 GMT -5
The song is fine I guess, seems like it'll burn fast though. Shocked that they're not trying this at radio to at least have something in place of "Woman's World." Are they not going to go into the album release with something on the radio?
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 14, 2024 18:50:01 GMT -5
The song is fine I guess, seems like it'll burn fast though. Shocked that they're not trying this at radio to at least have something in place of "Woman's World." Are they not going to go into the album release with something on the radio? Smile didn’t have one, either, if I recall.
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Post by B****BetterGetNOSL333P on Aug 14, 2024 23:25:20 GMT -5
It's rising in the UK, it could be a hit there!
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Aug 15, 2024 9:41:57 GMT -5
It's predicted to debut at #56 in the UK, which isn't far behind Woman's World peak (#47).
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Post by balletgirlmom on Aug 15, 2024 12:46:21 GMT -5
Lifetimes is not a bad song and maybe it will do well over time. Katy is talented and fun, and I want to give this era a chance.
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Post by Mayman on Aug 15, 2024 13:12:42 GMT -5
Lifetimes is not a bad song and maybe it will do well over time. Katy is talented and fun, and I want to give this era a chance. What part of its performance do you think suggests it will do well over time?
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Post by danilofskt on Aug 15, 2024 19:38:19 GMT -5
I'm new here and I'd like to know when Katy Perry's “Lifetimes” will hit the radio, but I don't think so. Could anyone help me?
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Post by wavey. on Aug 15, 2024 21:09:03 GMT -5
I'm new here and I'd like to know when Katy Perry's “Lifetimes” will hit the radio, but I don't think so. Could anyone help me? Welcome! And I haven't saw anything with Capitol sending it to radio...yet.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Aug 16, 2024 2:10:42 GMT -5
I feel like her team might just wait until the VMAs or launch of the album to send a radio single, they might have been seeing fans wanting the 21 Savage collab as a single so they might be saving the radio push for that? That's just pure speculation on my end but this doesn't sound like a song that would really work Stateside (I feel like I've said this before in this thread so sorry for bringing it up again).
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Post by leonagwen on Aug 16, 2024 5:39:28 GMT -5
I feel like her team might just wait until the VMAs or launch of the album to send a radio single, they might have been seeing fans wanting the 21 Savage collab as a single so they might be saving the radio push for that? That's just pure speculation on my end but this doesn't sound like a song that would really work Stateside (I feel like I've said this before in this thread so sorry for bringing it up again). Lifetimes is doing 700K daily streams on Spotify which is not disastrous, the song did get some spins on its debut day. As far as the VMA's? The VMA's are not a big deal like it was 25 years ago. We might have to face the reality that Katy's days of having big pop hits could be over. I can still see her have some Hot AC success though. Anyway, I am still rooting for her.
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