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Post by lazer on Oct 25, 2024 16:57:48 GMT -5
I wonder if Addison Rae will debut higher than Lady Gaga on Spotify.
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Post by fridayteenage on Oct 25, 2024 16:59:12 GMT -5
Gracie has had two solo songs hit the us Spotify top ten now.
Tied with Chappell.
Two more than charli xcx
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Post by rideordie on Oct 25, 2024 22:25:56 GMT -5
Gagaβs new song is not even top 50 on AM? Even stupid love peaked in the 40s by this timeβ¦
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Post by artistry on Oct 26, 2024 2:01:10 GMT -5
This is the week Billie's team should have made a push for "BOAF," though I know that can be hard for labels to predict. "A Bar Song" is finally having decent drops, and "Love Somebody" will have a drop, so that opens the door for a song currently at 200 points or above to make a move. This is the week vinyls for Die With A Smile are being released. Sales will tremendously increase. I feel the song should also be discounted on iTunes to ensure it reaches #1 for at least a week. |
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Post by shayonce on Oct 26, 2024 2:26:36 GMT -5
Apple Music USA Daily Top 100 - 10.25 Friday -
1. Morgan Wallen - Love Somebody
2. Rod Wave - 25
3. Γscar Maydon & Fuerza Regida - Tu Boda
4. GloRilla & Sexyy Red - WHATCHU KNO ABOUT ME
5. Billie Eilish - BIRDS OF A FEATHER
6. Billie Eilish - WILDFLOWER
7. Post Malone - I Had Some Help (feat. Morgan Wallen)
8. Lady Gaga & Bruno Mars - Die With A Smile
9. Shaboozey - A Bar Song (Tipsy)
10. Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso
29. Summer Walker - Heart Of A Woman
32. ROSΓ & Bruno Mars - APT.
34. Tyler, The Creator - Noid
65. Lady Gaga - Disease
99. The Weeknd - Wicked Games
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Post by Darkest Hour on Oct 26, 2024 2:38:08 GMT -5
United States Apple Music Top Albums - Friday
5 NEW Hunxho - Thank God
8 +86 Kelsea Ballerini - PATTERNS
11 NEW Megan Thee Stallion - MEGAN: ACT II
15 +149 Halsey - The Great Impersonator
17 +9 GloRilla - GLORIOUS (BONUS TRACK EDITION)
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Post by kcdawg13 on Oct 26, 2024 4:32:19 GMT -5
I'm not too sure about the Gaga single, I think it's ok but I'm not crazy about it like everyone else is. I just feel like I've heard this type of song/sound from Gaga many times before, I was much more impressed with Happy Mistake on her Joker album. Maybe it'll grow on me. |
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Post by haven on Oct 26, 2024 8:55:26 GMT -5
Gagaβs new song is not even top 50 on AM? Even stupid love peaked in the 40s by this timeβ¦ APT is only in the 30s after a week of release and thats been the #1 on spotify since Sunday. I think this is another case of AM being adverse to pop, not necessarily gaga flopping. |
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Oct 26, 2024 9:24:06 GMT -5
have AM numbers ever been released? Like what does the #1 get compared to Spotify?
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Post by sportytheartist on Oct 26, 2024 9:48:23 GMT -5
have AM numbers ever been released? Like what does the #1 get compared to Spotify? Weβre not sure, as far as I know, numbers have never been publicly available. |
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Post by jdanton2 on Oct 26, 2024 10:20:29 GMT -5
Apple streams are less from what i have seen . it is all pay so it gets more points per stream than Spotify which has both pay and free .
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Oct 26, 2024 10:26:11 GMT -5
Apple streams are less from what i have seen give me a ballpark number for #1. Less than 1M? Is it a global number? |
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Post by jdanton2 on Oct 26, 2024 10:45:12 GMT -5
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Post by stormlover74 on Oct 26, 2024 10:50:23 GMT -5
Disease debuts at #16 on spotify with around 1.1 million streams
Aquamarine #102. 450k
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Post by greggpo on Oct 26, 2024 11:00:30 GMT -5
have AM numbers ever been released? Like what does the #1 get compared to Spotify? Weβre not sure, as far as I know, numbers have never been publicly available. I have heard that AM number of streams are a slightly bigger share in the US than Spotify. |
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Post by Choco on Oct 26, 2024 12:30:57 GMT -5
It's a little weird that Gaga didn't drop the video with the song, she's a very visual artist. Honestly feels like they're counting on DWAS smashing for the rest of the year which is fine, as long as they have a more surefire hit on the album coming later.
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Post by 85la on Oct 26, 2024 13:56:44 GMT -5
It's a little weird that Gaga didn't drop the video with the song, she's a very visual artist. Honestly feels like they're counting on DWAS smashing for the rest of the year which is fine, as long as they have a more surefire hit on the album coming later. Why would they do that? Why release a dud now, and a more "surefire" hit later? Why not just release the "surefire" hit now? This is already veering on the "oh it's just a promo single" excuse by trying to explain the failure of a first single. And unless it substantially grows on streaming, early signs point to this being a resounding failure, and it is absolutely being labeled as the first official single from LG7, as press coverage up until just yesterday attests to. |
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Post by fridayteenage on Oct 26, 2024 14:06:16 GMT -5
chromatica: stupid flop
Ariana #1
Joanne: perfect flop (outside the top 10)
one week top 10 Million Reasons
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Post by Push The Button on Oct 26, 2024 14:19:47 GMT -5
chromatica: stupid flop Ariana #1 Joanne: perfect flop (outside the top 10) one week top 10 Million Reasons That one week was because of a Super Bowl performance. |
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Post by Choco on Oct 26, 2024 14:48:19 GMT -5
It's a little weird that Gaga didn't drop the video with the song, she's a very visual artist. Honestly feels like they're counting on DWAS smashing for the rest of the year which is fine, as long as they have a more surefire hit on the album coming later. Why would they do that? Why release a dud now, and a more "surefire" hit later? Why not just release the "surefire" hit now? This is already veering on the "oh it's just a promo single" excuse by trying to explain the failure of a first single. And unless it substantially grows on streaming, early signs point to this being a resounding failure, and it is absolutely being labeled as the first official single from LG7, as press coverage up until just yesterday attests to. Relax, jesus. No one said promo single. There are countless examples of acts picking the wrong lead and the second single performs better, even happened to Gaga herself a few times already. Just ask Taylor why she dropped Me! instead of [literally any other track on the album]. Or ask Britney why she felt like MATM was better as a lead than Toxic lol. It happens. Or why Russian Roulette was the lead of Rihanna's album when Rude Boy felt like a natural transition from Good Girl Gone Bad to her darker sound. None of those examples ended up being promo singles. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Oct 26, 2024 14:52:11 GMT -5
It's a little weird that Gaga didn't drop the video with the song, she's a very visual artist. Honestly feels like they're counting on DWAS smashing for the rest of the year which is fine, as long as they have a more surefire hit on the album coming later. Why would they do that? Why release a dud now, and a more "surefire" hit later? Why not just release the "surefire" hit now? This is already veering on the "oh it's just a promo single" excuse by trying to explain the failure of a first single. And unless it substantially grows on streaming, early signs point to this being a resounding failure, and it is absolutely being labeled as the first official single from LG7, as press coverage up until just yesterday attests to. Wait - what? Is βdiseaseβ a failure now? I thought the numbers it had posted so far were considerably decent. Man, am I behind! |
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Post by fridayteenage on Oct 26, 2024 14:52:11 GMT -5
chromatica: stupid flop Ariana #1 Joanne: perfect flop (outside the top 10) one week top 10 Million Reasons That one week was because of a Super Bowl performance. it also has tons more recurrent streams than perfect flop. |
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Post by 85la on Oct 26, 2024 15:10:20 GMT -5
Why would they do that? Why release a dud now, and a more "surefire" hit later? Why not just release the "surefire" hit now? This is already veering on the "oh it's just a promo single" excuse by trying to explain the failure of a first single. And unless it substantially grows on streaming, early signs point to this being a resounding failure, and it is absolutely being labeled as the first official single from LG7, as press coverage up until just yesterday attests to. Relax, jesus. No one said promo single. There are countless examples of acts picking the wrong lead and the second single performs better, even happened to Gaga herself a few times already. Just ask Taylor why she dropped Me! instead of [literally any other track on the album]. Or ask Britney why she felt like MATM was better as a lead than Toxic lol. It happens. Or why Russian Roulette was the lead of Rihanna's album when Rude Boy felt like a natural transition from Good Girl Gone Bad to her darker sound. None of those examples ended up being promo singles. It just seems like you were saying it was planned, that they planned to release a weaker single (whether it's a promo one or not) now and wait to release a stronger one (presumably sometime next year), and have DWAS do the leg work until then. Honestly that might not have been a bad idea, given the precarious situation she's in now, to release a promo single from LG7 now with no expectation of it doing anything just to fill the time, and then slowly transition into the era full force next year, except that's not what they're doing, because Disease has clearly been labeled the lead. |
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Post by 85la on Oct 26, 2024 15:22:46 GMT -5
Why would they do that? Why release a dud now, and a more "surefire" hit later? Why not just release the "surefire" hit now? This is already veering on the "oh it's just a promo single" excuse by trying to explain the failure of a first single. And unless it substantially grows on streaming, early signs point to this being a resounding failure, and it is absolutely being labeled as the first official single from LG7, as press coverage up until just yesterday attests to. Wait - what? Is βdiseaseβ a failure now? I thought the numbers it had posted so far were considerably decent. Man, am I behind! Not sure if you're being sarcastic here or what, but yes, opening only at #16 on U.S. Spotify and 60-ish as of now on Apple Music is kind of failing for her, especially since people were saying this might debut at #1 or possibly the top 10 on the Hot 100. Yes, it's just the first day, but unless it somehow surges and drastically turns around in streams over the next few days, this first day is very telling. |
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Post by Choco on Oct 26, 2024 15:29:59 GMT -5
Relax, jesus. No one said promo single. There are countless examples of acts picking the wrong lead and the second single performs better, even happened to Gaga herself a few times already. Just ask Taylor why she dropped Me! instead of [literally any other track on the album]. Or ask Britney why she felt like MATM was better as a lead than Toxic lol. It happens. Or why Russian Roulette was the lead of Rihanna's album when Rude Boy felt like a natural transition from Good Girl Gone Bad to her darker sound. None of those examples ended up being promo singles. It just seems like you were saying it was planned, that they planned to release a weaker single (whether it's a promo one or not) now and wait to release a stronger one (presumably sometime next year), and have DWAS do the leg work until then. Honestly that might not have been a bad idea, given the precarious situation she's in now, to release a promo single from LG7 now with no expectation of it doing anything just to fill the time, and then slowly transition into the era full force next year, except that's not what they're doing, because Disease has clearly been labeled the lead. I mean it's happened where they try a song that is clearly never going to be the biggest hit as the lead to see if hype and buzz can carry it to a big peak and save the obvious chart hit for later. It's why they led Chromatica with a solo song instead of the Ariana feature, when Ariana was a the top of her streaming power in 2020. Do I think they want or expect Disease to fully flop? No. But as long as they have another song that might be a more obvious hit on the project I think she's not in any trouble until the new year, especially when her standalone collab is doing amazingly well. As for whether the numbers are bad or not, I'd say they're mid-to-bad, but in a way that makes it hard to predict what's gonna happen. I don't think it's gonna follow the footsteps of DWAS and grow from here, but I also don't think it necessarily spells doom for her project yet. Like I said here or on another thread I'm not sure why she didn't drop visuals with the song as she's one of the biggest benefactors of amazing videos of the last two decades or so. Several of her songs do not become what they ended up being without their videos. But we'll see. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Oct 26, 2024 20:00:39 GMT -5
Wait - what? Is βdiseaseβ a failure now? I thought the numbers it had posted so far were considerably decent. Man, am I behind! Not sure if you're being sarcastic here or what, but yes, opening only at #16 on U.S. Spotify and 60-ish as of now on Apple Music is kind of failing for her, especially since people were saying this might debut at #1 or possibly the top 10 on the Hot 100. Yes, it's just the first day, but unless it somehow surges and drastically turns around in streams over the next few days, this first day is very telling. Nope, no sarcasm. Iβve never been up on streaming numbers and whatβs considered good. Iβd been of the understanding that new songs rarely start off high in streams and that it takes time to reach a certain point. How much time? Iβve no idea. Also, I donβt think anyone said it would debut #1 on the Hot 100. The discussion before it was released was whether it was possible and people were either saying not a chance or, sure, in the right situation, which is pretty logical to me. |
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Post by shakemaki on Oct 26, 2024 21:52:35 GMT -5
Yeah, thereβs already big revisionist history if anyone is saying we were predicting a #1 debut for Gaga. All anyone said is it was possible under the right circumstances.
The right circumstances having to do with the song itself first and foremost, and no I donβt think this song was ever debuting at #1 no matter what now that weβve heard it. Something as universal as DWAS is though totally could have imo.
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Post by avamaxstan on Oct 26, 2024 22:05:18 GMT -5
Why would they do that? Why release a dud now, and a more "surefire" hit later? Why not just release the "surefire" hit now? This is already veering on the "oh it's just a promo single" excuse by trying to explain the failure of a first single. And unless it substantially grows on streaming, early signs point to this being a resounding failure, and it is absolutely being labeled as the first official single from LG7, as press coverage up until just yesterday attests to. Wait - what? Is βdiseaseβ a failure now? I thought the numbers it had posted so far were considerably decent. Man, am I behind! Its underperforming Stupid Loveβs debut which ended up being a flop. We shall see how it develops. |
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Post by big2000 on Oct 26, 2024 22:41:01 GMT -5
One thing interesting about DWAS is that it kept building during its debut week (debuted at #13, then rose to #1 by Tuesday or Wednesday), whereas songs by A-listers such as Gaga tend to peak on its first day until dropping for the rest of the week until stabilizing. I could see something similar happening here, but itβs hard to be sure.
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Post by Music Fan on Oct 26, 2024 22:51:15 GMT -5
Yeah, thereβs already big revisionist history if anyone is saying we were predicting a #1 debut for Gaga. All anyone said is it was possible under the right circumstances. The right circumstances having to do with the song itself first and foremost, and no I donβt think this song was ever debuting at #1 no matter what now that weβve heard it. Something as universal as DWAS is though totally could have imo. I mean... "everything is possible under the right circumstances." The point of the original post was that it was, in that poster's mind, realistic that Gaga could debut #1. However, that was never really the case and that is being proven with the performance of this song. Gaga fans really ran with DWAS being a hit solely because of her. I won't discredit her merit, because I think something clicked with the collaboration itself. It will never be only because of Gaga or only because of Bruno. But DWAS was never going to "boost" Gaga or be an insight into how solo Gaga would perform. I don't think the song is "underperforming." I think this is exactly how a 2024 solo Gaga song is expected to perform. I wouldn't call it a flop like some people have. |
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