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Post by Walking Contradiction on May 21, 2007 21:36:38 GMT -5
The third single from Light Grenades goes for adds on June 5 according to AllAccess. Definitely not the song I would've chosen, but maybe it'll grow on me more after hearing it on the radio. I wouldn't be surprised if this flops though.
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Post by singingsparrow on May 22, 2007 0:53:49 GMT -5
Very disappointed in this selection.
"A Kiss To Send Us Off" would make the strongest third single candidate to maintain their edgier Alternative cred, with "Rogues" also fitting that mold.
Perhaps "Love Hurts" is only the third single internationally.
Sincerely,
Noah Eaton
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Post by American Idiot on May 22, 2007 11:02:32 GMT -5
Very disappointed in this selection. "A Kiss To Send Us Off" would make the strongest third single candidate to maintain their edgier Alternative cred, with "Rogues" also fitting that mold. I totally agree. After having a huge mellow sounding hit with Dig, I don't believe this was the right direction to go in and they should have taken one of their harder choices. I can't see this doing that incredibly well, which will probably mean they won't have a forth single. |
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Post by singingsparrow on May 22, 2007 11:50:14 GMT -5
Very disappointed in this selection. "A Kiss To Send Us Off" would make the strongest third single candidate to maintain their edgier Alternative cred, with "Rogues" also fitting that mold. I totally agree. After having a huge mellow sounding hit with Dig, I don't believe this was the right direction to go in and they should have taken one of their harder choices. I can't see this doing that incredibly well, which will probably mean they won't have a forth single. "A Crow Left Of The Murder" has remained a superior-selling album to "Light Grenades", and that album ended up not even going three earnest singles deep ("Agoraphobia" was slated to be the third single from that album, and "Sick Sad Little World" received cult airplay, but neither ever got a proper single release) It's at least good they're not writing off this era for Incubus yet, despite "Light Grenades" only having a Gold certification thus far (their lowest certification since S.C.I.E.N.C.E) But though this isn't a bad song, it doesn't change that it's a bad single candidate in my view. Sincerely, Noah Eaton |
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Post by Walking Contradiction on May 22, 2007 12:19:44 GMT -5
I really think "Rogues" would've been a perfect choice. It's catchy and accessible, but different enough to really grab people's attention and maybe win over some new fans. And agree that they needed something harder for the third single. This isn't as bad of a choice as "Love Hurts" would've been, and I'm glad they're at least releasing something, but I still feel like they're playing it a little too safe here.
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Post by winner2000 on May 22, 2007 12:23:03 GMT -5
Frankly this era is a big huge flop already, and releasing OAW just makes things worse. Time to look ahead to the next album I guess...
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Post by brooks666200 on May 26, 2007 7:19:28 GMT -5
maybe im alone, but this was one of my favorites off light grenades. oaw has some radio appeal to it so maybe if they market it the right way it could be a breakout hit. i saw love hurts and kiss to send us off having huge potential on alternative, so im disapointed they may skip both of them altogether.
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Post by brooks666200 on Jun 18, 2007 9:11:29 GMT -5
already in the top 40 with a bullet over 100
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Post by singingsparrow on Jun 18, 2007 16:46:38 GMT -5
maybe im alone, but this was one of my favorites off light grenades. oaw has some radio appeal to it so maybe if they market it the right way it could be a breakout hit. i saw love hurts and kiss to send us off having huge potential on alternative, so im disapointed they may skip both of them altogether. Oh, I really like this song too. I've found since purchasing "Light Grenades" the same sort of romanticism and lyrical maturity that brings out the best in Brandon Boyd's lyrical talents in this track that also made songs like "Warning" great. I just don't think this is a wise single selection, especially during a rare era in their career to date where they're struggling to live up to their previous eras commerically. "Light Grenades" has only gone gold, and strategically "Love Hurts" and "Diamonds and Coal" both make better radio single candidates for mainstream, while "Rogues" and "A Kiss To Send Us Off" make better single candidates for Alternative and Active Rock. Obviously, the best bet for this era to keep going commerically is if "Dig" becomes a successful crossover hit, which it still very well could given the new markets picking up the track on Hot AC radio. But "Oil And Water" just doesn't have as strong a hook as several other tracks on the album, and they're more likely to keep this era moving with something more immediate rather than a grow-on-you type of track. Sincerely, Noah Eaton |
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Post by brooks666200 on Jun 18, 2007 18:00:29 GMT -5
maybe im alone, but this was one of my favorites off light grenades. oaw has some radio appeal to it so maybe if they market it the right way it could be a breakout hit. i saw love hurts and kiss to send us off having huge potential on alternative, so im disapointed they may skip both of them altogether. Oh, I really like this song too. I've found since purchasing "Light Grenades" the same sort of romanticism and lyrical maturity that brings out the best in Brandon Boyd's lyrical talents in this track that also made songs like "Warning" great. I just don't think this is a wise single selection, especially during a rare era in their career to date where they're struggling to live up to their previous eras commerically. "Light Grenades" has only gone gold, and strategically "Love Hurts" and "Diamonds and Coal" both make better radio single candidates for mainstream, while "Rogues" and "A Kiss To Send Us Off" make better single candidates for Alternative and Active Rock. Obviously, the best bet for this era to keep going commerically is if "Dig" becomes a successful crossover hit, which it still very well could given the new markets picking up the track on Hot AC radio. But "Oil And Water" just doesn't have as strong a hook as several other tracks on the album, and they're more likely to keep this era moving with something more immediate rather than a grow-on-you type of track. Sincerely, Noah Eaton yea man for the most part i agree with you. imo if they dont release love hurts as the next single the label has no idea wut they are doing. i thought love hurts should have been the 2nd single becuz it has so much mainstream appeal. still, i think oil and water is a really good song and could be a sleeper on alternative. a kiss to send us off would also make a good single. |
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Post by Pipa on Jun 18, 2007 19:04:13 GMT -5
Chances are this will kill the momentum like Chevelle's "Panic Prone" did. An alright track though.
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Post by crash46 on Jun 19, 2007 21:26:49 GMT -5
I mean, it's probably the 4th best possible selection a single on this fine record. It's just that "Love Hurts" is the 1st.
Have they missed the top 10 with anything besides "Make A Move"? I don't think this song will get there, but top 20 is a certainty, so it should ultimately do fine.
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Post by singingsparrow on Jun 19, 2007 22:01:01 GMT -5
I mean, it's probably the 4th best possible selection a single on this fine record. It's just that "Love Hurts" is the 1st. Have they missed the top 10 with anything besides "Make A Move"? I don't think this song will get there, but top 20 is a certainty, so it should ultimately do fine. If you count certain promotional releases as "Are You In?", "Circles" and "Sick Sad Little World", yes, but in terms of wide releases, I can't recall any release of theirs since before the "Make Yourself" era missing the Top 10. Sincerely, Noah Eaton |
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Post by brooks666200 on Jun 20, 2007 8:00:27 GMT -5
does anyone know if theyre making a video for oil and water?
i thought crash summed it up perfectly. oil and water is a damn good song and a solid single candidate, but love hurts was clearly the best choice. imo it should have went 1st-anna molly, 2nd-love hurts, 3rd-dig, 4th-oil and water/kiss to send us off
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Post by roentgenizdat on Jun 21, 2007 7:29:13 GMT -5
Debuts at #38 on Modern Rock.
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Post by brooks666200 on Jun 26, 2007 9:30:28 GMT -5
already top 30
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Post by roentgenizdat on Jun 28, 2007 7:35:23 GMT -5
Modern Rock: #30
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Post by reception on Jul 4, 2007 19:22:22 GMT -5
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Post by roentgenizdat on Jul 5, 2007 7:06:04 GMT -5
Modern Rock: #28
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Post by rhymes4life27 on Jul 5, 2007 14:14:38 GMT -5
I agree. I love Incubus, but I don't really like this song.
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Post by calichaos on Jul 17, 2007 0:42:14 GMT -5
I Love This Song its one of my faves on the album GOOD CHOICE
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Post by Brazilian Guy on Aug 8, 2007 12:59:01 GMT -5
17 15 INCUBUS Oil And Water 2006 Epic 1031 946 85 4.324
Steady and slow. Can still go top 10 and not break the band's track record.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Aug 8, 2007 20:16:59 GMT -5
I heard this song for the first time last week and of the three singles from this album, I think I like this one the best!
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Post by singingsparrow on Aug 9, 2007 17:06:01 GMT -5
17 15 INCUBUS Oil And Water 2006 Epic 1031 946 85 4.324 Steady and slow. Can still go top 10 and not break the band's track record. I think it'll all but certainly go Top 10 at this point, given the lack of competition and weak bullets below the Top 5 right now. It's probably not going to go Top 5, though, because at its current pace, it's going to keep getting leapfrogged eventually by newer singles by more established artists in particular, and doesn't have the muscle, especially with weaker album sales, to weather such a tide. Sincerely, Noah Eaton |
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Post by calichaos on Aug 13, 2007 20:35:41 GMT -5
i hope it goes top 5
They deserve it
i love this song
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Post by borlando on Aug 27, 2007 23:07:18 GMT -5
starting to pick up some steam
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Post by popmusicaddict on Aug 29, 2007 1:03:09 GMT -5
Surprised at the negative reaction this got at first - this is great, its not THAT hard compared to "Dig". I think it made the perfect selection.
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Post by pen on Aug 29, 2007 1:05:56 GMT -5
its not THAT hard compared to "Dig". That's why people are complaining, I think. |
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Post by jvandyck87 on Aug 30, 2007 19:37:20 GMT -5
Frankly this era is a big huge flop already, and releasing OAW just makes things worse. Time to look ahead to the next album I guess... I don't think that the choice of singles is the main reason for the lack of sales of "Light Grenades." And I wouldn't know, because "Light Grenades" is the first Incubus album that I have been especially wary to buy. And the reason why many like myself have stayed away from this album is because of how mediocre "A Crow Left Of The Murder" was. There was so much hype leading up to the release of that record, and I don't know if I'm alone in saying this, but I was more disappointed in that album than almost any other album I can remember buying. I thought about buying "Light Grenades" when I heard "Anna Molly" but then I remembered how much I liked "Megalomaniac." "Dig" and "Oil and Water" by themselves have already made me think more realistically about buying this album and now I probably will. A lot of my friends chose to download the record instead of buying it because they didn't want to live the "A Crow Left Of The Murder" disappointment all over again. I am interested to hear these other songs you guys are saying would have been better single choices, so I guess it's time for me to finally complete my Incubus catalogue and buy the record. But I certainly don't think they're hurting their careers with this album as much as trying to repair it from the damage that was done by the non-"Megalomaniac" tracks off "Crow." |
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Post by pen on Aug 30, 2007 20:07:13 GMT -5
I don't know what you're talking about, I loved Crow. "Megalomaniac", "Talk Shows On Mute", "Beware Criminal", "Smile Lines", "Zee Deveel", "Sick Sad Little World", "Agoraphobia". All great songs. It took a little bit to get into, I'll admit, but once I did the songs grew on me.
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