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Post by chebingeo on Nov 29, 2003 12:48:52 GMT -5
Wait up a minute, now you're totally in the wrong. How is "Me, Myself, and I" too "ghetto" for CHR/Pop radio? What do you mean by that? >:( Then it'd be a hell of a lot higher than it is now. |
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Post by radiorules on Nov 29, 2003 12:57:08 GMT -5
Um, if you look at the other formats, Beyonce isn't doing too hot with MMI over there either. So if it's "too ghetto" because it's not doing well on POP, you can turn it around and say "It's too Pop" since it's not doing well on Urban. Actually the truth is, the song sucks. Plain and Simple.
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Post by irice22 on Nov 29, 2003 12:59:48 GMT -5
Interesting everyone is predicting high fpr Pink and Sheryl and low for Beyoncé and Kelly Clarkson which is exactly what might just happen. I think pop radio still likes Shryl after "Picture," honestly I think "The First Cut Is the Deepest" is more pop friendly than "Picture," not to say it will do better. "Picture" was just what seemed like a miracle.
As for Pink, "God Is a DJ" is way more radio-friendly than "Trouble," I think radio will have no problem embracing "God Is a DJ."
Kelly Clarkson's song is really bland and boring and her last peak #16, I can't see this song doing much.
Beyoncé's song is a little less boring than Kelly's, but I think this will be Beyoncé's first flop, maybe she'll have have a peak #17.
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Post by radiorules on Nov 29, 2003 13:04:44 GMT -5
I'm gonna say that Sheryl, Beyonce, Kelly, and Pink will all peak at #17! Add Britney's next single to that position as well.
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Post by Mega248 on Nov 29, 2003 14:50:54 GMT -5
...but I think this will be Beyoncé's first flop... What do you call "Work It Out" then?;) |
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Post by PerPlexied on Nov 29, 2003 15:40:01 GMT -5
You have to be careful when releasing a ballad to POP and Beyonce and Kelly were not. Can someone tell me what the benefit is to the cliche release of two uptempo then a ballad as your singles? I am almost positive that if Beyonce would have released Naughty Girl or Hip Hop Star she would be bolting up the charts at this point.
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Post by krazymack on Nov 29, 2003 16:49:38 GMT -5
You have to be careful when releasing a ballad to POP and Beyonce and Kelly were not. Can someone tell me what the benefit is to the cliche release of two uptempo then a ballad as your singles? I am almost positive that if Beyonce would have released Naughty Girl or Hip Hop Star she would be bolting up the charts at this point. Big deal, so this song is flopping. Maybe she just wanted to change the mode up a little. People on this board are acting like it'll put a dent in her career or are wishing that it'll put a dent in her career. I'm sure she has so much in store, whether we like it or not. She'll just quickly move on to the next single. I personally don't think this single sounds "ghetto" as made out to be on these boards. The pop charts reflect all facets of American music by popular artists and not all music is going to sound like it came from a lily farm or something. That's something to keep on mind when you're listening to CHR/Pop radio or else I suggest you better change your format to Hot AC or something comparable to that. |
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Post by singingsparrow on Nov 29, 2003 18:53:44 GMT -5
***********Current Thoughts On Chart************
* Any logical explanation to why Lil Jon & The Eastside Boyz are barely dropping?
* Fountains of Wayne and Britney Spears are losing just like I expected
* Also just as I expected, "Bright Lights" is holding its ground on CHR/Pop and may possibly set a new peak position at #15 by Sunday evening if Nelly and Co. will permit to that, despite being in danger of being moved back 15-18 or 16-19 or so shortly after.
* Stacie Orrico continues her impressive performance in the Top 10, yay! :)
* Fuel and Dido can both go Top 30 easily, and I think at least one of the two will go Top 20, with Dido currently having the advantage in my mind.
* It's about time Switchfoot prepares to make waves on CHR/Pop. They can well expect to go Top 10 next year.
Sincerely,
Noah Eaton
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Post by EvanJ on Nov 29, 2003 19:03:22 GMT -5
You have to be careful when releasing a ballad to POP and Beyonce and Kelly were not. Well shouldn't Kelly get played on Adult Contemporary and maybe Beyonce on Urban Adult Contemporary? If "The Trouble With Love Is" will go for Adult Contemporary adds, it should wait until next year. |
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Post by radiorules on Nov 29, 2003 20:19:26 GMT -5
You have to be careful when releasing a ballad to POP and Beyonce and Kelly were not. Can someone tell me what the benefit is to the cliche release of two uptempo then a ballad as your singles? I am almost positive that if Beyonce would have released Naughty Girl or Hip Hop Star she would be bolting up the charts at this point. Um, no. Look at "The Voice Within", it was released after two uptempo singles and it's doing fine. I think the problem with Beyonce was just it was a bad song all around, she could have gotten away with releasing a good ballad. As for KC, i'm starting to think that the only reason MI was even a hit was because of the "American Idol" hype and that she's not going to have a long career on CHR POP. |
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Post by Mega248 on Nov 29, 2003 21:36:09 GMT -5
As for KC, i'm starting to think that the only reason MI was even a hit was because of the "American Idol" hype and that she's not going to have a long career on CHR POP. ...Except "Miss Independent" wasn't released until months after "AMLT" was off the charts and much of the AI hype was gone. |
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Post by Keith3000 on Nov 29, 2003 22:06:04 GMT -5
3 Doors Down have regained their bullet. Granted their bullet is small, but it just shows that the song will be here for a while.
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Post by radiorules on Nov 30, 2003 1:03:15 GMT -5
...Except "Miss Independent" wasn't released until months after "AMLT" was off the charts and much of the AI hype was gone. American Idol 2... |
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Post by PerPlexied on Nov 30, 2003 2:37:01 GMT -5
Okay, maybe I should have stated what I meant more clearly. Releasing a ballad is a great idea if it is a good one. What I meant is that the two that Kelly and Beyonce were not that great in my opinion. And I just wanted to know why it was an unwritten rule that a ballad generally follows two uptempo singles on pop?
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Post by EvanJ on Nov 30, 2003 10:25:08 GMT -5
With two songs going recurrent, all the songs in the 48-52 range should make the chart, except that Number 48 Black Eyed Peas could get passed by five songs which would make Willa Ford featuring May, Youngbloodz featuring Lil' Jon, Kiley Dean (debut) and Dashboard Confessional (debut) the bottom five in some order. Evanescence (Number 56) could debut next week. How many songs this year have debuted on CHR-Pop after they have gone recurrent on another format? Dashboard Confessional will do that if they debut. Does Dashboard Confessional have a chance on Hot Adult Contemporary?
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Post by radiorules on Nov 30, 2003 11:36:34 GMT -5
Okay, maybe I should have stated what I meant more clearly. Releasing a ballad is a great idea if it is a good one. What I meant is that the two that Kelly and Beyonce were not that great in my opinion. And I just wanted to know why it was an unwritten rule that a ballad generally follows two uptempo singles on pop? Because releasing three uptempo songs in a row would be pushing it, espechally if the previous two were huge hits. Radio would think that the record company wants the same thing to happen with the 3rd one, so intstead of getting a hit single, the single gets a backlash. Releasing a ballad, a good one, would be the better way to go after 2 uptempo's. But then again all of the songs Justin released were uptempo so who knows. |
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Post by ExActLy99 on Nov 30, 2003 14:13:57 GMT -5
I still think Kelly should've released "Just Missed The Train" it's a ballad but at least it has some flavor. I think any songs in #6-8 on her album would've been good, "Just Missed The Train", "Beautiful Disaster", "You Thought Wrong-w/Tamyra Gray" However I do think "You Thought Wrong" is a little over-produced.
Evanescence is having some problems with getting "My Immortal" some airplay, I knew this would either be a huge success or a huge disappointment, right now thinks aren't looking too good, Same thing with Sarah McLachlan, "Fallen" is definetly top 10 material! Hopefully she will be a very slow riser and take the "Unwell" path, not peaking until spring!
It looks like Baby Bash could lose their bullet next week, could 3 Doors Down be at #2 for the whole month of December!
Outkast will probably hit 9000 spins, "last time it was done by You-Know-Who with You-Know-What" :)
Michelle will make Top 20 next week, sending Nelly to recurrent!!
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Post by radiorules on Nov 30, 2003 15:16:26 GMT -5
Christina is 5 spins away from pushing MB20 back a spot and surviving both the crappy #17 position, and the logjam!
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Post by Libra on Nov 30, 2003 20:19:07 GMT -5
But then again all of the songs Justin released were uptempo so who knows. Your argument has a fatal flaw - tell me how "Cry Me a River" is uptempo. ;) |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2003 20:20:05 GMT -5
Your argument has a fatal flaw - tell me how "Cry Me a River" is uptempo. ;) Please don't tell me you're serious. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 30, 2003 20:37:26 GMT -5
'Cry Me A River' is not uptempo!
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Post by irice22 on Nov 30, 2003 21:00:57 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm going to say "Cry Me a River" is midtempo.
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Post by JCMF3 on Nov 30, 2003 21:08:48 GMT -5
Is it just me, or the mediabase site has not been updated yet?? What the heck is going on?? :(
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Post by Cerebro on Nov 30, 2003 21:50:52 GMT -5
Is it just me, or the mediabase site has not been updated yet?? What the heck is going on?? :( It's not just you. I was just wondering that myself. Be nice if they'd get around to it soon.  |
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Post by chebingeo on Nov 30, 2003 21:51:26 GMT -5
No final update yet. AWESOME seeing that Liz Phair has escaped the log jam and could possibly reach #11 by next week!!! If she can keep the gains going...  TOP TEN FOR LIZ PHAIR!!! LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN!!! |
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Post by Mega248 on Nov 30, 2003 22:25:16 GMT -5
They finally updated, about fifteen minutes ago. Nickelback's bullet is now up to +740. If they keep it up, they could jump 11-7* next week. Ten weeks after her adds date, Kiley Dean finally debuts in the top 50. How much higher do you think this can go? New & Active should look like this: 1. Young Gunz 2. Evanescence 3. Lillix 4. Jason Mraz 5. Nick Lachey(yup, still N&A two months after the adds date) 6. Limp Bizkit 7. Murphy Lee f/ Jermaine Dupri 8. Sarah MacLachlan 9. Barenaked Ladies 10. J.C. Chasez There's a fair chance that Blaque will get at least one add, which would put them at #1 N&A. Ugh, Hilary Barf is still #35 in her 19th week. I was hoping she wouldn't make it to recurrent. |
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Post by HER MINAJesty on Nov 30, 2003 23:14:11 GMT -5
Woo hoo for Christina, she passed MB20 to reach #16! but I do like 'Bright Lights'...its been stuck at #17 for what, 2 weeks now? 3? and woo hoo for Stacie Orrico!! I hope she gets into the Top 5 next week! Beyonce cant fall fast enough...and I hope MM&I loses it's bullet next week WTH at Nickelback and Liz Phair, lol these songs just keep on going and going...I liked Why Can't I back in like July... I would like Baby Bash to get to #2, that would be very surprising (#3 is already a surprise) I didnt see this coming at all Ouch at Britney and MATM...spin losses of almost 1000 :o Ok I'm already sick of Hey Ya!, but it doesnt look like it's going anywhere anytime soon I wonder if Kelis 'Milkshake' might be able to challenge for #1 I really am hoping Pink slows down with 'God is a DJ', but it doesn't look like that's gonna happen...I want her whole album and everything associated with it to just tank, but with the video not even being released, and already rocketing into the Top 40, it can only go up, I guess and is that Young Gunz "Cant Stop, Wont Stop" on top of New and Active?? I dont get that, isn't this song like 6 months old? |
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Post by HER MINAJesty on Nov 30, 2003 23:16:30 GMT -5
and shouldn't Dashboard Confessional be #1 on New and Active, ahead of Young Gunz?
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Post by Crushcrushchris on Nov 30, 2003 23:33:31 GMT -5
and is that Young Gunz "Cant Stop, Wont Stop" on top of New and Active?? I dont get that, isn't this song like 6 months old? It probably didn't get released to pop stations until like last month or so. I think that's the case. |
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Post by JCMF3 on Dec 1, 2003 0:21:21 GMT -5
and shouldn't Dashboard Confessional be #1 on New and Active, ahead of Young Gunz? With two songs in the top 50 going recurrent, Dashboard Confessional will make a top 50 debut this week. :) |
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