Billboard Mainstream Top 40 Year-End

[Cerebro]

Just picked up Billboard's year-end issue. They printed the top 20 for the MT40 chart (Billboard's equivalent of R&R's CHR/Pop chart). We knew #1 would be Black Eyed Peas (courtesy of the Billboard Music Awards). The rest were pretty close to R&R with a few surprises. The big ones for me were "When I'm Gone" at #10 :o and "Beautiful" at #4 (Yes, radiorules, you're happy. Let's move on ). I'm assuming a bigger version of this chart is available in the Airplay Moniter or in the subscription section of the web site so it shouldn't hurt to have the top 20 portion posted here.

01 Black Eyed Peas - Where Is The Love?
02 Avril Lavigne - I'm With You
03 Evanescence featuring Paul McCoy - Bring Me To Life
04 Christina Aguilera - Beautiful
05 Justin Timberlake - Rock Your Body
06 Matchbox Twenty - Unwell
07 50 Cent - In Da Club
08 Kelly Clarkson - Miss Independent
09 R. Kelly - Ignition
10 3 Doors Down - When I'm Gone
11 Beyonce' featuring Jay-Z - Crazy In Love
12 Jennifer Lopez featuring L.L. Cool J - All I Have
13 Nelly, P. Diddy, and Murphy Lee - Shake Ya Tailfeather
14 Kid Rock featuring Sheryl Crow - Picture
15 Sean Paul - Get Busy
16 Nivea featuring Brian and Brandon Casy - Don't Mess With My Man
17 Justin Timberlake - Cry Me A River
18 Eminem - Lose Yourself
19 Christina Aguilera featuring Lil' Kim - Can't Hold Us Down
20 Amanda Perez - Angel

[pophector]

Show me the Hot 100 Airplay Top 75! Even though the top 30 will look exactly like Billboard's Hot 100 Year End chart

[mst3k]

Does it have the yearend chart for Billboard's Top 40 Tracks chart also? (That one combines Mainstream, Rhythmic, and Adult Top 40.) I'm just curious to see how it compares to the one you posted.

Edit: never mind, I just read that that chart's no longer printed, it's only available to Premium Members on the website.

[StephL]

Not sure if this has been mentioned here yet, but here is the top 50 from Billboard's Year-End Hot 100. Still waiting for Joel to post the 2nd part. ;)

01. In da club - 50 Cent
02. Ignition - R. Kelly
03. Get busy - Sean Paul
04. Crazy in love - Beyonce Featuring Jay-Z
05. When i'm gone - 3 Doors Down
06. Unwell - Matchbox Twenty
07. Right thurr - Chingy
08. Miss you - Aaliyah
09. Picture - Kid Rock Featuring Sheryl Crow
10. Bring me to life - Evanescence Featuring Paul McCoy
11. Get low - Lil Jon & The East Side Boyz Featuring Ying Yang Twins
12. Baby boy - Beyonce Featuring Sean Paul
13. Shake ya tailfeather - Nelly, P. Diddy & Murphy Lee
14. 21 questions - 50 Cent Featuring Nate Dogg
15. All i have - Jennifer Lopez Featuring LL Cool J
16. Beautiful - Christina Aguilera
17. I know what you want - Busta Rhymes & Mariah Carey Featuring The Flipmode Squad
18. I'm with you - Avril Lavigne
19. Drift away - Uncle Kracker Featuring Dobie Gray
20. Magic stick - Lil' Kim Featuring 50 Cent
21. P.i.m.p. - 50 Cent
22. Bump, bump, bump - B2K & P. Diddy
23. Into you - Fabolous Featuring Tamia Or Ashanti
24. Can't let you go - Fabolous Featuring Mike Shorey & Lil' Mo
25. Mesmerize - Ja Rule Featuring Ashanti
26. Where is the love? - Black Eyed Peas
27. The game of love - Santana Featuring Michelle Branch
28. Lose yourself - Eminem
29. Rock Wit U - Ashanti
30. Cry me a river - Justin Timberlake
31. How you gonna act like that - Tyrese
32. Rock your body - Justin Timberlake
33. No letting go - Wayne Wonder
34. Frontin' - Pharrell Featuring Jay-Z
35. Landslide - Dixie Chicks
36. Work it - Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott
37. '03 bonnie & clyde - Jay-Z Featuring Beyonce Knowles
38. Don't mess with my man - Nivea Featuring Brian & Brandon Casey
39. So gone - Monica
40. Air force ones - Nelly Featuring Kyjuan, Ali & Murphy Lee
41. Never leave you - uh ooh, uh oooh! - Lumidee
42. Beautiful - Snoop Dogg Featuring Pharrell & Uncle Charlie Wilson
43. Gossip folks - Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott Featuring Ludacris
44. Miss independent - Kelly Clarkson
45. Calling all angels - Train
46. Damn! - YoungBloodZ Featuring Lil Jon
47. This is the night - Clay Aiken
48. Your body is a wonderland - John Mayer
49. Headstrong - Trapt
50. In those jeans - Ginuwine

Oops, forgot #29

[mst3k]

One reason for some of the surprises:

The rankings for BDS- and SoundScan-based charts only reflect airplay or sales during the weeks a title appeared on a relevant chart.

In other words, Billboard doesn't count pre-chart or recurrent spins in their yearend charts.

[pophector]

#'s 51-100:

51 Stand Up Ludacris Featuring Shawnna
52 The Remedy (I Won't Worry) Jason Mraz
53 Why Don't You & I Santana Featuring Alex Band Or Chad Kroeger
54 Excuse Me Miss Jay-Z
55 Jenny From The Block Jennifer Lopez Featuring Styles & Jadakiss
56 Are You Happy Now? Michelle Branch
57 Forever And For Always Shania Twain
58 I Can Nas
59 Underneath It All No Doubt Featuring Lady Saw
60 If You'Re Not The One Daniel Bedingfield
61 Thoia Thoing R. Kelly
62 Here Without You 3 Doors Down
63 Wanksta 50 Cent
64 My Love Is Like... Wo Mya
65 It's Five O'Clock Somewhere Alan Jackson & Jimmy Buffett
66 Like Glue Sean Paul
67 Can't Hold Us Down Christina Aguilera Featuring Lil' Kim
68 My Front Porch Looking In Lonestar
69 Angel Amanda Perez
70 She Hates Me Puddle Of Mudd
71 Don't Wanna Try Frankie J
72 The Jump Off Lil' Kim Featuring Mr. Cheeks
73 Intuition Jewel
74 Hell Yeah Ginuwine Featuring Baby
75 Beer For My Horses Toby Keith Duet With Willie Nelson
76 Holidae In Chingy Featuring Ludacris & Snoop Dogg
77 Suga Suga Baby Bash Featuring Frankie J
78 Love Of My Life (An Ode To Hip Hop) Erykah Badu Featuring Common
79 Fighter Christina Aguilera
80 Thugz Mansion 2Pac
81 Clocks Coldplay
82 Put That Woman First Jaheim
83 Rain On Me Ashanti
84 19 Somethin' Mark Wills
85 Can't Stop, Won't Stop Young Gunz
86 Red Dirt Road Brooks & Dunn
87 What Was I Thinkin' Dierks Bentley
88 Flying Without Wings Ruben Studdard
89 Sing For The Moment Eminem
90 Have You Forgotten? Darryl Worley
91 No Shoes, No Shirt, No Problems Kenny Chesney
92 Come Over Aaliyah
93 Sick Of Being Lonely Field Mob
94 Step In The Name Of Love R. Kelly
95 I Want You Thalia Featuring Fat Joe
96 Like A Stone Audioslave
97 Don't Know Why Norah Jones
98 Superman Eminem
99 Real Good Man Tim McGraw
100 Say Yes Floetry

[pophector]

I just noticed a serious error... Ashanti's Rock Wit U doesn't appear in the top 100! :o

[j]

Avril Lavigne's "I'm With You" is higher than [white]every other song except "Where Is The Love"[/white].

[Adonis the DemiGod!]

pophector said:

I just noticed a serious error... Ashanti's Rock Wit U doesn't appear in the top 100! :o

Thats a mistake.

[DuckHead]

I think "When I'm Gone" is at # 10 on that chart because Billboard's panel is smaller and more large-market-oriented than R&R, and "When I'm Gone" was played at a greater ratio on the smaller market stations.

And here's another reason why the Billboard Hot 100 is meaningless: "How You Gonna Act Like That" by Tyrese is # 31, "Miss Independent" by Kelly Clarkson is # 44. I think everyone would agree that "Miss Independent" was far and away the bigger hit of those two.

[j]

DuckHead said:

And here's another reason why the Billboard Hot 100 is meaningless: "How You Gonna Act Like That" by Tyrese is # 31, "Miss Independent" by Kelly Clarkson is # 44. I think everyone would agree that "Miss Independent" was far and away the bigger hit of those two.

There are other formats you know.

[ListenToMe]

Thank-god BEP are the #1.

[Rob64]

jae said:

There are other formats you know.

exactly! The world doesn't revolve around pop music!

[af18c]

Cerebro said:

04 Christina Aguilera - Beautiful
19 Christina Aguilera featuring Lil' Kim - Can't Hold Us Down

[DuckHead]

jae said:

There are other formats you know.

I was taking into account all formats. And I think "Miss Independent" should still be higher.

And anyway, Pop is without argument the most important format, and I think anything that spends 6 weeks at # 1 on Pop should be ranked higher than # 44.

[mst3k]

DuckHead said:

And anyway, Pop is without argument the most important format...

Perhaps pre-1990, but I think today you might get some argument from fans of country, rock, R&B, AC, etc... Radio has become so fragmented that pop is no longer the mass-appeal format that it used to be.

[Adonis the DemiGod!]

There are almost as many Rhythmic listeners as there are pop listeners and with 25-30 less stations. So pop is not the most important format anymore. Listening to a pop radio station is not hot anymore. Specializing seems to be the thing to do these days. Pop is not the all encompassing format that it used to be. Miss Independent is rightfully at #44 as it only had enough appeal to make a dent at just one format and it didn't even have an overwhelming number of spins of listeners at that format.

[radiorules]

I trust Billboard more than R & R because:

1. They do it by Audience Impression

2. They are less biased

3. They know that when people think of the #1 pop song of the year, there is no way in hell "When I'm Gone" is going to pop in their heads.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

radiorules said:

2. They are less biased

Just because they tabulate their chart different makes them biased? How?

[StephL]

pophector said:

I just noticed a serious error... Ashanti's Rock Wit U doesn't appear in the top 100! :o

You're right. I fogot #29.

[DuckHead]

mst3k1 said:

Perhaps pre-1990, but I think today you might get some argument from fans of country, rock, R&B, AC, etc... Radio has become so fragmented that pop is no longer the mass-appeal format that it used to be.

It's true that radio is more fragmented, but I just don't see the Billboard Hot 100 as "the" chart, and I don't understand why anybody does. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe that they included all radio formats in their Hot 100 prior to 1991. They had seperate AC, Country, Rock and R&B charts. The Hot 100, at least in the 80s, was pop-radio plus singles sales. I don't know why they include all formats now when they didn't before.

And now that they include all formats, "pop" songs don't do as well, because they get played on pop radio almost exclusivly. You could say that the chart is right then, but then what do you say about the 80s? I'm sure "Physical" wouldn't have been # 1 had they included all formats. It didn't get played on Country and AC and Rock. But that was the big "pop" song, and that's a song that I feel deserved to be # 1. I mean, you take a song like "Bye Bye Bye" or "Oops!...I Did It Again" and those are # 1 songs to me. Those are songs everyone knows and can sing by heart. But they only got played on Pop (and some on Rhythmic too). So they didn't go # 1 on the Hot 100.

Pop is the only format that plays everything. Every other format is specific. Why is it fair to count how many time "Oops!...I Did It Again" was played on Rock? It's wasn't even ever supposed to be played on Rock. But everything (or most everything) is made to be (hopefully) played on Pop.

And I cannot consider the Hot 100 valid for this reason:

This Is The Night- Clay Aiken: # 1
Don't Speak- No Doubt: DNC

Where is the justice? " Don't Speak" was very possibly the most played song of the 90s on radio (and that's all radio fromats, too). I never heard "This Is The Night" one time on the radio.

[Adonis the DemiGod!]

DuckHead said:

It's true that radio is more fragmented, but I just don't see the Billboard Hot 100 as "the" chart, and I don't understand why anybody does. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe that they included all radio formats in their Hot 100 prior to 1991. They had seperate AC, Country, Rock and R&B charts. The Hot 100, at least in the 80s, was pop-radio plus singles sales. I don't know why they include all formats now when they didn't before.

And now that they include all formats, "pop" songs don't do as well, because they get played on pop radio almost exclusivly. You could say that the chart is right then, but then what do you say about the 80s? I'm sure "Physical" wouldn't have been # 1 had they included all formats. It didn't get played on Country and AC and Rock. But that was the big "pop" song, and that's a song that I feel deserved to be # 1. I mean, you take a song like "Bye Bye Bye" or "Oops!...I Did It Again" and those are # 1 songs to me. Those are songs everyone knows and can sing by heart. But they only got played on Pop (and some on Rhythmic too). So they didn't go # 1 on the Hot 100.

Pop is the only format that plays everything. Every other format is specific. Why is it fair to count how many time "Oops!...I Did It Again" was played on Rock? It's wasn't even ever supposed to be played on Rock. But everything (or most everything) is made to be (hopefully) played on Pop.

And I cannot consider the Hot 100 valid for this reason:

This Is The Night- Clay Aiken: # 1
Don't Speak- No Doubt: DNC

Where is the justice? " Don't Speak" was very possibly the most played song of the 90s on radio (and that's all radio fromats, too). I never heard "This Is The Night" one time on the radio.

They changed the chart because of songs like No Doubt not being able to make the chart because they had no single available. They included all formats where new music is played the majority of the time. They allowed for singles to still chart but they made it harder for them to debut and get high positions in general because people weren't buying as many singles as they had done in the past. This is The night sold a whopping 600k when it came out which is why it got #1. Only a few other songs have been able to sell that much in one week and they are Princess Diana Tribute Single and I Will Always Love You. So yes Clay earned his #1 single. There was paradigm shift and billboard had to go with it which was the right thing to do.

The Hot 100 is the most popular songs regardless of a POP format. The Hot 100 changed because POP became a format and people were criticizing the Hot 100 for not really being the most popular songs in the country just the songs that were popular at one format that supposedly was all encompassing but really wasn't. Only songs that are pop friendly would make the POP radio charts because POP stopped playing what was popular at all the other formats and started playing what they felt sounded like a POP song in the format sense.

[BlahBlahBlah]

DuckHead said:

Pop is the only format that plays everything. Every other format is specific. Why is it fair to count how many time "Oops!...I Did It Again" was played on Rock? It's wasn't even ever supposed to be played on Rock. But everything (or most everything) is made to be (hopefully) played on Pop.

Pop doesn't play everything. Just look at the #1 Urban song of the year, "So Gone" by Monica, did that even make the Top 40 on CHR/Pop? Nope. Is that more popular than half the songs that are on the CHR/Pop year-end chart? Of course, it spent 8(!!!) weeks at #1 on Urban! Same with "Excuse Me Miss" by Jay-Z which hit #1 on Urban, but failed to chart on CHR/Pop, same with Erykah Bad's "Love Of My Life (An Ode To Hip Hop)" or even YoungBloodZ's "Damn!".

On the opposite side of the spectrum, how about Linkin Park's "Somewhere I Belong" and "Faint", The White Stripes, Queens Of The Stone Age, etc.? They spent multiple weeks at #1 on the Alternative chart but didn't do anything on CHR/Pop. Are you telling me even a minor CHR/Pop hit is more popular than those?

[j]

DuckHead said:

Don't Speak- No Doubt: DNC

Where is the justice?

I don't know why you brought this example up. It's exactly because of songs like "Don't Speak" not charting on The Hot 100 that they changed how The Hot 100 is compiled. They've already made the change to enable songs like "Don't Speak" to chart if released today, but they obviously can't go back to 1997 and re-do the charts, can they?

[j]

radiorules said:

I trust Billboard more than R & R because:
2. They are less biased

3. They know that when people think of the #1 pop song of the year, there is no way in hell "When I'm Gone" is going to pop in their heads.

LOL, LOL, LOL.

Even if Billboard does it the way R&R does it (i.e. (1) count spins instead of audience impressions and (2) include recurrent and pre-chart spins, "In Da Club" will still be #1 and "I'm With You" will still be higher than "Beautiful" because The Hot 100 counts all formats.

Everytime anyone uses the word "biased" to describe a chart, you know he's stupid and has no credibility.

[EvanJ]

BlahBlahBlah said:

On the opposite side of the spectrum, how about Linkin Park's "Somewhere I Belong" and "Faint", The White Stripes, Queens Of The Stone Age, etc.? They spent multiple weeks at #1 on the Alternative chart but didn't do anything on CHR/Pop. Are you telling me even a minor CHR/Pop hit is more popular than those?

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Well not on the Billboard Hot 100, but I would say Linkin Park had one of the best airplay years.
For mst3k1's post, the top music formats in the national ratings are:
1. Adult Contemporary + Soft Adult Contemporary
2. Country
3. Urban
4. CHR-Pop
5. CHR-Rhythmic
CHR-Rhythmic will pass CHR-Pop. When the national ratings split the CHR formats, CHR-Pop had 0.4 more than CHR-Rhythmic and Urban combined. Now CHR-Pop has the mean of CHR-Rhythmic and Urban.
The people who should be complaining about the Billboard Hot 100 are the Adult Contemporary and Country fans. Those are the most popular music formats but they don't play enough currents to be the format with the most audience on the Billboard Hot 100. There are 18 songs on the Billboard Hot 100 whose core format is Country (excluding "The First Cut Is The Deepest" which is on the Country chart). There were only 9 Country songs on the Billboard Hot 100 for the year because Number 1 in Country audience normally puts you in the 20s. A simple random sample of 100 out of the Top 500 songs of the year on the Billboard Hot 100 if they went down that far would have more Country songs than the Top 100 does.

[DuckHead]

BlahBlahBlah said:

Pop doesn't play everything. Just look at the #1 Urban song of the year, "So Gone" by Monica, did that even make the Top 40 on CHR/Pop? Nope. Is that more popular than half the songs that are on the CHR/Pop year-end chart? Of course, it spent 8(!!!) weeks at #1 on Urban! Same with "Excuse Me Miss" by Jay-Z which hit #1 on Urban, but failed to chart on CHR/Pop, same with Erykah Bad's "Love Of My Life (An Ode To Hip Hop)" or even YoungBloodZ's "Damn!".

On the opposite side of the spectrum, how about Linkin Park's "Somewhere I Belong" and "Faint", The White Stripes, Queens Of The Stone Age, etc.? They spent multiple weeks at #1 on the Alternative chart but didn't do anything on CHR/Pop. Are you telling me even a minor CHR/Pop hit is more popular than those?

No, I'm saying they were bigger hits on Pop. The Alternative songs you mentioned were big hits on Alternative. They are different formats. What I'm saying is the formats should not be compared to each other and joined into one chart. The charts should be kept seperate. That's why I like R&R.

However, I will say that a # 1 Pop hit is a bigger hit than a # 1 Alternative hit.

[j]

DuckHead said:

The charts should be kept seperate. That's why I like R&R.

Billboard also has separate charts, but they go one step further by combining them for The Hot 100.

DuckHead said:

However, I will say that a # 1 Pop hit is a bigger hit than a # 1 Alternative hit.

Not necessarily true. Staind's It's Been Awhile spent around 16 weeks at #1 on Alternative, and it can be argued that it's a bigger hit than "Sk8er Boi" or many of the one-week hitters on Pop that are quickly forgotten. Personally, I'd consider it a bigger hit than the multiple-weeker Lady Marmalade.

[DuckHead]

jae said:

Not necessarily true. Staind's It's Been Awhile spent around 16 weeks at #1 on Alternative, and it can be argued that it's a bigger hit than "Sk8er Boi" or many of the one-week hitters on Pop that are quickly forgotten. Personally, I'd consider it a bigger hit than the multiple-weeker Lady Marmalade.

Yeah, but you probably wouldn't think that if "It's Been Awhile" hadn't been a big hit at Pop also.

[j]

DuckHead said:

Yeah, but you probably wouldn't think that if "It's Been Awhile" hadn't been a big hit at Pop also.

Oh yeah..